Court of Arnor

[Ciryaher]

The High King of Arnor, Ciryaher Hyarmendacil the Third, hath decreed that all lands between the Misty Mountains and the Great Western Sea (excluding the Kingdom of the Naugrim in the Ithryn Luin) are henceforth annexed to the Kingdom of Arnor; thus forming the Arnorian Empire. The kingship of Arnor therefore becomes the imperialship of Arnor, making Ciryaher Hyarmendacil III Emporer of Arnor.

All inhabitants of the affected territories will immediately swear allegiance to the Emporer; those who refuse will be shown to the northern border of Arnor at Forochel. Any attempt to incite rebellion or resistance by any person will be considered an act of war and shall be thoroughly crushed.

--Decree of Emporer Hyarmendacil III

[Lifeling]

*walks in, kneels*
"Allow me to be the first to pledge my alliegence to yourself and your kingdom."
*Takes out his sword, hands it to Ciryaher*

*waits*

[DGoeij]

*burp*

Sorry about that. I already happen to have a monarch at home. And within two months the heir to the throne is gonna marry a very goodlooking woman, I happen to prefer to swear allegiance to them.

The Traveller from Unquendor

[Ciryaher]

Your allegiance is accepted, Lifeling *hands back sword* But you need only swear to me if you live in Eriador.

I tire of this empty peace, and why sit idle when land lies there ready to be claimed, if not through war? So I gather all these lands to my kingdom; not only as sources of food, resources, and loyal citizens, but also as a buffer zone against any invasion. The Dark Power has retreated to Mordor, and will not be able to gain so much power, for his outposts across the land will be rooted out; should he (or anyone else) have the gall to rise against me or my allies.

[DGoeij]

You and what army?
Peace is cool! It means relatively cheap beer, the abilty to spent christmas at home and no need for splitting the brains of a not so different fella than myself who happens to wear a different kind of suit than me.

[Ciryaher]

Peace is good for some, but idle swords get restless. Unused boots get weak. Unworn helms get rusty.

What army? The armies of Arnor and her allies, my friend. From what land in Middle-Earth do you hail to ask?

And by 'Christmas' I assume you mean the Yule.

[DGoeij]

The Netherlands happens to be a small and usually matter of factly over-run country. I do not think the entire army you mentioned would be able to camp there without piling up their horses and tents.:D
Since I'm not very sure how I ended up in ME, I have no idea where to point to. If you happen to have a map of Europe, look west of Germany and north of France and Belgium. Unquendor is an Elvish made up name, because it means Low-land. The Dutch Tolkien society uses the name, but I'm no member. I just happened to know that.
I plea to the Emperor a pardon in travelling trough his lands.

[Beorn]

With King Ciryaher I may stand: I do not approve of taking lands, but it is his choice. If rebellion starts, to the point where they may endanger Gondor, we will come to the aid. So long as troops make no move to take any lands of Gondor. Signs of troops moving south towards our lands or our great tower, Minas Tirith, will not be tolerated without consent.

You speak as of preparing for war, have you tidings we do not? Why do you say, the lands will be used as a buffer zone against any invasion? Is darkness rising from an unknown place?

I stand by you, and so does the land of Gondor and her peoples to uproot all of the dark places, but I do not support your uncalled for revokation of lands from others.

[Mithrandir]

Due to the fact that I am your Wizard of Cardolan, I am already under your allegiance. I am ready to move my armies at your command m' lord.

[Talierin]

I don't know what an "EmpOrer" is, but I do know what an EmpEror is. I will swear allegiance to you, O Mighty Emperor, but I will stay Gondorian.

[Kementari]

I will still stand with my Lord... though I don't approve of him taking over the lands of the Pherinnath and the First-born...

[Dengen-Goroth]

Mordor Stationary

In Response to Recent Annex

To all whom it may concern:
I, The Dark Lord of Mordor and all realms pledging alliance to the almighty power Melkor decree that from this point forth no foreign force, either unarmed or armed, may enter the lands under my sway.
Also, of the annex of lands joining to Arnor, I have no protest. though if more lands are annexed, with the aid of either Gondor or Rohan, The might of the South shall erupt anew. Nay should any some within the vacinity of fourty miles of Mordor bearing arms.With one exception: Harad and the easternlings.

[Aerin]

Ciryaher, does your new empire include Rhuduar? I am unfamiliar with an autocracy, so pray explain to me how your empire shall be run.
If I find you to be a good ruler, then, and only then, shall I swear allegiance. For I do not take oaths lightly, and I stand by them til death. I say once more, prove thyself to be a good and just leader of men, and then I shall swear allegiance to the empire of Arnor.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

um...WHAT IN ELENDILS NAME IS GOING ON?????? I get grounded from the net for 2 days and i loose my MFing kingdom?
Im afraid i dont understand why i wasnt informed of the usurping of the lands i hold dear. Did i not fight hard to gain these lands, i mean, if saving many of your hides wasnt enough... I hereby volunteer to lead all rebel forces against the evil Empor( e or o?)r Ciryaher...yay for me.

[Eomer Dinmention]

Cir
i will join you
i swear on the Kingdom of Rohan
i will aid you in battle (if there will be) and my men are already to go on your orders and so will the Kingdom of Rohan

but i agree with Mike B
no-one is going to take any land of Rohan either if there is i will withdraw my allegiance

[Ciryaher]

I think that I shall show all why it is good for me to take control of that which I have.

For hundreds of years after the fall of King Arvedui, the last in Arnor, Eriador in general has fallen into waste and decay. Except for the Shire and Bree, the land was left to go wild, and evil ran rampant outside the borders of these small lands. Since Elessar returned to the throne long ago and reclaimed his kingdom, it was Arnor that recieved less benefits. After he died, the throne at Annuminas was basically abandoned, and the Kings thereafter ruled from Osgiliath (and Minas Anor), leaving Arnor yet again to sit and rot away.

After the Great War, I removed myself to Arnor, hoping to rebuild it to equal that of Gondor, so that the lands might once again bring order to Middle-Earth. I have completed the reconstruction of Arnor: the three realms of Arthedain, Rhudaur, and Cardolan once again flourish. However, the lands to our north, south, and west are still stalked by brigands, ruffians, and orcs. So...I claim these lands to allow me to not only rid them of evil, but to rejuvenate them as well. I forged an alliance with our friends in the Blue Mountains, and now I can do that which the good inhabitants of Eriador have wished for long years. I shall employ and pay the poor in rebuilding Tharbad and ports along the southern coast; I shall relieve the farmers of taxation to increase the harvest; I shall build new towns and cities, so that economies, arts, and sciences may spread. Yet there are those that shout "Tyrant!", but what have they done in hundreds of years to bring prosperity and plenty? Nothing, so now it is my turn.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Originally posted by Ciryaher
I think that I shall show all why it is good for me to take control of that which I have.

For hundreds of years after the fall of King Arvedui, the last in Arnor, Eriador in general has fallen into waste and decay. Except for the Shire and Bree, the land was left to go wild, and evil ran rampant outside the borders of these small lands. Since Elessar returned to the throne long ago and reclaimed his kingdom, it was Arnor that recieved less benefits. After he died, the throne at Annuminas was basically abandoned, and the Kings thereafter ruled from Osgiliath (and Minas Anor), leaving Arnor yet again to sit and rot away.


You bastard, i took the title of king of Eriador less than one moon ago. You have labored since the great war? My hope lies in that you speak not of the one in which my Ancestor, Elendil fell. For the land was his, and he alone removed himself from Isildur and his brothers. He died without a heir to the throne of the country he broke from Eriador. The Dunadan tried to peacify it in the years following but none would help them and they began to die off. Angmar was too all-powerful and overwhelmed their pittifully small force. Arnor has lain in waist from that time to the present. Now, with Sauron Destroyed, I could finnaly turn my attention to other probelms, but you seem to have beat me to the punch, and have taken what is not rightfully yours to take. Bastard I call you because I hear talk of emporers and kings, but I see no lineage. What experiances have you in ruling, or battle, or anything for that matter, your name eludes me in the records of middle earth...

[Ciryaher]

What battles have I fought in?! What hole have you been living in? Did you not witness the great and dreadful War of Treachery whence I took command of Harad after having been dethroned?

I have been King of Arnor for some time, and King of Gondor for for even longer before that. When you can muster some allies, THEN you can return and protest my lordship.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I hearby declare my neutrality from this conflict and any others not involving the Independent Feodality of Narylis (my country; pronounced nuh-RYE-lis).

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Elessar Breaks through the great double doors of the throne room at Annuminas, tossing guards like sacks of rotting potatoes. He stares at Ciryaher for a long moment, and then takes off his helmet and Addresses the Emporer.
" You speak of allies, have you not heard of the rebellion council?, it would seem as though your allies falter under the truth... I do beleive that you should keep updated in the happinings of the land. The spirit has arisen in your lands, The empire shall be ripped apart and returned to its seperate lands and its seperate ways."

Elessar draws his sword across the inside of his forearm, cleansing the blade in his gleaming blood.

"I entered your city in peace, Ciryaher, and i shall leave thus. I spare your life for now. Fear not though, for I shall meet you on the feild of battle, even if i alone must face the tide. I will not stop while the blood of Elendil runs freely through my veins. Your future is near, And it lies in my plans.

Elessar turns as his guards enter from the shadows of the room, a Dunadan, an elven archer, and a dwarven axeman. They exit in a single file line.

[Ciryaher]

*Ciryaher ponders on his throne for a moment, then stands*

Elessar, need we be enemies? There is land enough for all. You could be given a seat of high power. I am thinking I will need good leaders to oversee the South of my land. I ask you to reconsider. We are men, and the world belongs to us now! Let us rule it with a fair hand, and good will. To rebuild the scars that were made long ago and to prepare for those that may come in the future. The wizards and elves have had their chance to aid the world in its wounds, and they have proven lax. Let the men rule! Will you join?

[¤-Elessar-¤]

I am sorry ciryaher, but you seem to be playing the part of the fool here. The elves and wizards built the known world. They have shaped our history and will continue to do so. I think that you are living in a fourth age world, I am living in a third age world. I see the world with all things still in it, not all things leaving as tolkien left it. I am sorry, but I must decline your offer and say that the war shall decide what the future holds. I hear that you are a gravely skilled tactician and that you did mighty things in the war of Trechery. I cannot wait to see what the record books shall call our war, for it is far from over.

[Eomer Dinmention]

Cir i take back my pledge of Allegiance and i shall stand by ellesar as your ENERMY

[Mithrandir]

Cir, I still stand by your side w/ my armies at ready, I pledged a long time ago to be your Wizard of Cardolan, and I do not break promises w/out good reason, I am ready to move @ your command, just P.M. me.
Mithrandir

[Beorn]

Originally posted by Mike B
With King Ciryaher I may stand: I do not approve of taking lands, but it is his choice. If rebellion starts, to the point where they may endanger Gondor, we will come to the aid. So long as troops make no move to take any lands of Gondor. Signs of troops moving south towards our lands or our great tower, Minas Tirith, will not be tolerated without consent.

I am firmly against any and all possibilities of me standing by your side in taking land. Should a war occur, I shall be against you, until you do a greater good than Elessar.

[Eomer Dinmention]

I am happy now Mike now once again Rohan and Gondor shall battle side by side if you are in need of anything feel free to ask me or pm me

[Ciryaher]

*Ciryaher roars*

SO BE IT! Begone and bother me no more, or I will throw you into the Helcaraxe myself. I want men to have power, but you cling to the Eldar, of whom few remain in Middle-Earth. They have abandoned that which they built, and when their works have rotted and crumbled to dust, it will be the works of Men that shall stand upon them. Where has the West been? They forsook Men after we arrived in this world. They only cared about the Eldar, because they seemed fairer than we. Was it Eru's purpose for us to simply be ignored and dealt with only when we misbehaved. Were not the Ainur in Valinor trembling as the mighty fleet of Ar-Pharazon landed upon their shores? They feared the might of Men, and it took the Might of Eru to save them. It is OUR turn to order the doings of Arda; we are those who will rise to greater heights than the eldar. Our works will last until the Great End, and it is I that shall begin those Works.

[Ciryaher]

I will discriminate against no man, dwarf, elf, hobbit, or any other creature that will rise to the aid of Arnor. I withdraw my statement that I made against the Istari Council, and if they choose to defend the Empire of Arnor--which was created peacefully--then I welcome them to my land with open arms. But I will not make war upon anyone...

BUT; me, my people, and my allies will fiercely defend the Empire against belligerent claimants who think they can rip apart this land. If my Empire is broken and I am slain, then I lay a curse upon the world that there will never be peace again, for those that destroy me will be destroyed in turn.

[Mithrandir]

What statement are you taliking about Cir.:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[syongstar]

KINDLY STATE YOUR PURPOSE,SIR

[Merry]

*Enters a strange small Hobbit dressed in full battle gear on a pony*

Elessar has the full support of the strong, clever warriors from the shire, we are now accustomed to battle and cannot be easily overthrown, despite our height!

Long live freedom and the right to live under our own chosen king.

[Kit Baggins]

I'm so pleased other hobbits have decided to join me!
Merry, if you want to be officially known as part of the rebellion, please post something to that effect on the Rebels thread.
You can be my lieutenant if you want.

~General Kit Baggins

[Merry]

I have sworn my allegiance under the thread started by Elessar, I hope this proves acceptable to you my lord. I would be honored to fight and die as your faithful lieutenant!

Long live the shire!!!!!!

[Ciryaher]

*rubs his temples*

You misunderstand me. Might I make things clearer for you, my god Gentlehobbits?

You see, when the Hobbits settled in the Shire, they obtained permission from the King of Arnor to do so. The Shire was never released from the service of the King, but they allowed the Hobbits to elect their own leaders as long as they remained on friendly terms with the Crown. When the Kingdom was shattered by the Terror from Angmar, the Shire escaped destruction by the forces of evil, but since the line of Anarion never truly failed, their allegiance was and is still to Arnor. I never planned to treat the Hobbits any different than they had been for all these long ages; in fact, I planned on treating them better. I am no tyrant.

My plans were (and still are to my knowledge) to bring all of the land west of the Misty Mountains together, to strengthen them and to rebuild them. Each 'territory' would have it's own elected (or appointed, if the population is not great enough) leader to oversee the doings in that land. The Shire would be lead by the Thain or the Mayor, whichever they chose; and they (as would all other leaders) would report their progress to me and pay a fairly low tax which would be used for improvements throughout the Empire. In return, I provide protection, resources, and food in times of dearth.

Is what I propose so bad? Was there any person slain by my bringing together the lands? You may call the Empire it whatever you like: nation, confederation, kingdom, state, or any other term for a collection of sovereign lands. The idea is where power is distributed over a larger area so that all may benefit from its rewards. A hierarchy built on the foundation of the People, whose elected leaders confide with me and my council...

I beg you all to reconsider the war that some insist upon having.

[Merry]

You have dealt kindly with us so far but I fear that this imperialist attitude of yours will ruin us all. You have a large army against you and I fear that you may neglect the Hobbits if you are forced to defend stronger and more profitable lands.

Mr. Kit Baggins, what say you? Do you share my concerns about our "kind" lord?

I look upon your outstretched arm with many reservations.

[Kit Baggins]

Lord Ciryaher, surely we have proved for long enough that we are capable of ruling ourselves, without the help of Arnor (or, indeed, anyone). You say that you plan to treat us well- but how do we know that? You could become a tyrant, and, because your army outnumbers us, we would be powerless to stop you.

Long live the Shire!

~General Kit Baggins

[Ciryaher]

What proves more that I am not a tyrant than the fact that I have raised NO army to stop you. I am no tyrant, and if I were asked to perish so that peace could be assured, I would do it.

The Shire may not necessarily NEED Arnor behind it, but other lands need the help that the Shire can provide. Food will be needed for the artisans that shall rebuild Tharbad and ports along the southern and western coasts. The hobbits need not be fenced in by wild lands; already the north has been cleansed. Let the lands all around benefit from eachother! Let evil be rooted out of the dark places. Let the children romp through the forests, and the fears of their folk relieved. Let the poor be housed and fed, and the unemployed be given honorable work at a trade or in the army. *looks at all listeners earnestly*

*raises his arms in exclaimation* O Hobbits! Do not follow a False Prophet down the path of war! I have always been a friend to the folk of the Shire (I tried to get a representative for the Halflings, but there were none to be found...until now!) I ask you to join a council to oversee all of the lands in the Empire of Arnor. A congress, or senate such a council could be called; the Council and Emporer to order the land, side by side. Think about it...

[Tar-Ancalime]

*carolers walk in*

"Lulay thou little tiny child,bye,bye luly lulay..."

Has anyone gotten the point yet???

[HLGStrider]

You confuse me, Cir. Do you wish to control or not? Let the Shire stand free. I support Ellassar and his line. I have no army to offer. I am only one small shield maiden. I wish to join with the hobbits. Will they accept one of the clumsy, big folk?

[Tar-Ancalime]

you make a really good point, why can't more people neutral???

[Merry]

*Sir Merry of Shire Hall begins to fall for the smooth words of Ciryaher and doubts the claims and accusations against Arnor*

*Turns and leaves from before the Emperor to seek counsel from the rebellion*

[Kit Baggins]

Originally posted by HLGStrider
I wish to join with the hobbits. Will they accept one of the clumsy, big folk?
Anyone is welcome to join the rebellion.

Merry, don't you realise this is all talk? Don't listen to Ciryaher, you were right in joining the rebellion. Don't you care about the freedom of the Shire?

~General Kit Baggins

BTW Tar-Ancalime, please take those carolers away :p !

[Tar-Ancalime]

*caroles stay apperantly the message still isn't absorbed*

"sleep in heavenly peace,peace slee-ep in heavenly PEACE"

I will not stop my holiday effort for peace!


PS:all men die, but did they really live

[Kementari]

We get the point Tar.


" And so this is Christmas, and what have you done? another year over, and a new one just begun.........." WAR IS OVER

-- John Lennon

Can you guys just cool it a bit for a few days. its the Holidays!

[Ciryaher]

It would be the sort of thing I would expect from these brigands to cause bloodshed during the Yule...

You hobbits seemed convinced that I "speak with soft words". I do not tihnk my words soft; they are honest and direct. I do not manipulate the intentions of myself or others, and what you hear is what you get. Since you seem so untrusting, why do you think it is me that is lying; could it not be Elessar and his band of rebels?

Open your eyes! It is not my intention to bear down upon the people; rather, it is to bring them together so that all might be lifted higher. Perhaps you do not see the importance of this, after all, you live in a prosperous land. Think of those that could benefit from all that we--Arnor, the Shire, and the rest of Eriador--can offer...

[Ciryaher]

And so it ends! I knew that you all would come to see the light, though doubtless some are easily persuaded to and fro. I grant full pardon to all of those who participated in this 'rebellion', except for Elessar.

The charges against Elessar are thus:

1. Destruction of private property
2. Conspiracy to commit acts of war
3. Treason
4. Disorderly Conduct
5. Mischevious Mischief

Those will suffice for now. If the party in question wishes for a pardon, it is asked that he kindly appear at the Capitol in Annuminas before the expiration of 2 months. After this period has expired, Elessar's status will be heightened to 'wanted alive' and a reward of twenty gold pieces (or the equivalent in food or other goods) will be given to those who assist in his apprehension. Upon arrival (by his own will or otherwise) he will be fairly judged and fined 60 hours of service to the People, and a fine of 30 gold pieces for the Common Good.

[Tar-Ancalime]

On a lighter note, i think we should have a christmas or holiday party!

[Ciryaher]

Yes, a great banquet is needed; one which will celebrate both the binding of the Arnorian Empire and the coming Yule.

[Beorn]

*Mike sends loads of foods, meats, breads, dairies, and DESSERTS!!!*

*Mike begins travelling to visit Ciryaher for some feasts*

[Tar-Ancalime]

*Tar Ancalime goes on her magic carpet to ask her husband if he'd like to come*

and we could possible have, Lembas???

[Morwen]

Oooo. Maybe I could get a quartet together so we could have some beautiful music while we eat.

[Kementari]

YES! a Christmas party! maybe we can draw names and get eachother gifts :D

*goes to the kitchen and starts bakeing*

[Tar-Ancalime]

And i'll bring my carolerss...if you wish anyway.

Ohh, i drew kementari!

[Eomer Dinmention]

Yes a christmas party is good but if there is any arguement about Land gaining i shall leave i wish not to hear of your aguements i only wish to defend and govern my Kingdom

[Ciryaher]

Ah yes....King Eomer...

You were the second to join the 'Rebellion', and so you are also summoned to face trial in Annuminas.

The charges I level are:

1. Conspiracy to commit acts of war
2. Conspiracy to overthrow a foreign government
3. Disorderly Conduct
4. Having an overly long signature

You have 60 days to appear in my court; after this time has expired, your status will be changed to 'wanted for extradition.' Since you attempted to lead you entire nation on the path of war, you will pay a fine of 5000 gold coins to the Common Good (or the equivalent of food or approved resources) and Rohan will be forbidden to cross the Fords of Isen without a representative of Arnor to vouch for them. Any attempt to resist trial and/or arrest with physical force can and will be considered an act of war.

Merry Christmas

[Kit Baggins]

It wasn't his fault. It's quite probable that nobody would have allied themselves with Elessar if I hadn't pledged allegance first.

And leave the Shire out of this! As the former rebel Hobbit commander, I take full responsibility for my people's involvement in this war.

~Ex-Commander Kit Baggins :mad:

BTW, the Hobbits are under Elessar's protection.

[Grond]

You just come and get Grond if you think you're capable. The ancient pits of Utumno and the fortress of Angband in the mountains of Thangoridrim are indeed hard to find in these later times.......... but I dare you to try. You will be pounded to dust and as for an levies leveled against me....... Grond says "hhhhaaaaaaaa"!:mad:

[Ciryaher]

Grond....WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOOT?!?!

Ahh, I am done leveling charges; for now. I don't hold the Shire responsible for anything that happened in that 'Rebellion'. I do not believe Elessar is leading anyone at the moment; and besides, only fines are being charged for these crimes. I'm not chopping off anyone's hands or heads; just some reparations.

The Shire is self-governed, and they have the militia that they always have; but the army of Arnor protects all.

[Mithrandir]

These charges to King Eomer are extremely offensive to me.

If you try and continue w/ them than I officially declare that you will make enemies w/ the White Council.

You can not charge my wizard for choosing a side, it is his free will and if you try to take that away from him than it will not be pretty.

Not to mention he called neutrality in the matter befoore it ended, as did the White Council.

I do not want war, but I must protect my White Wizards

[Ciryaher]

He must face trial. If he can come up with a reasonable excuse as to why he wished to break the Empire, then he will be charged with nothing. Otherwise he will pay his fine and go free, to do as he pleases. Justice must be served, and the sooner that the Good King presents himself before the Court of Arnor, the sooner he shall be forgiven.

This is but a trifle, and I see no reason why the Istar Council should be over-worried with a small trial.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

I hereby claim the punishments of all who were allied to me, they did nothing except to doubt your cause. I have served 10 hours to your community already, in the re-building of the Silver Dragon (the only thing keeping morale up in your country).
Some charges are also bullcrap:

3. Treason- I never claimed to be a citizen of your empire or anyone elses, therefor I have commited treason against no-one.

1. Destruction of private property- I destroyed no private property, not even in the silver dragon, All that I have destroyed were the double doors of your throneroom, by far property of the empire, dont you agree?

5. Mischevious Mischief- isnt there enough bullshit in the world? However, this one falls under 2, as the only Mischief I caused was turning your allies against you and planning to take your capitol.

I would also suggest you read the post under lands territories, ect. that I will begin to make soon, it sould be rather interesting...

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[Ciryaher]

You broke a mug in the Silver Dragon ;) , and you claimed 'to be an heir of' Isildur, so technically you are/were a citizen of Arnor.

You are hereby forgiven of all transgressions against Arnor, and you are free to peacefully do whatever you please in the Empire of Arnor.

~ Ciryaher, Princeps Senatus

I still need to see the King Eormer of Rohan, though. For him you cannot accept blame. He is of royal lineage and should know better than to do such things.

[Mithrandir]

HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG!!!!!!
I will allow him to go to trial, if he is placed w/ charges than we shall be on very bad grounds Cir.
I am wise enough to not turn this into a war, but the grounds between us will be VERY unstable, take this as a threat if you want, but all it really is is what is was meant to be.

[Grond]

Cir, Grond, being the Evil Hammer of Melkor, figured he would be charged for offering assistance to..............whoever asked. hehe

Grond was spoiling for a fight and figured Cir would seek to punish him. That's where Grond was coming from... but if I am not to be charged then............Good luck. Grond will trouble your fair realm no longer.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Grond, do you still take up abode in Angband? If you do then you should claim it. You could be King Grond....Doesnt that have a nice ring to it?

[Tar-Ancalime]

so, cir have you started a thread for the party yet???

[Eomer Dinmention]

Cir i hear you need to see me

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Eomer, wait, I might just have to hit him again, let me tie up my horse and Ill go in w/ you.

[Eomer Dinmention]

OK then lol:D

[Ciryaher]

*clears his throat and opens a scroll, reading it loudly*

King Eormer, your charges have been stated. Since you abandoned your cause ere it grew violent, you will not be charged for any acts of war. HOWEVER *loudly* you are still charged with having a signature that is far too long. Shorten it, or things will not seem so good.

*puts down his scroll and looks up, rubbing his chin*

Elessar you have claimed lands that I claimed before *raises a hand and cuts Elessar short* BUT! I will allow you to take and rule the land south of the Swanfleet and east of the Loudwater. You shall do this in good faith, but if you seem to be doing things that are not in the best interests of the Common Good, then we will have to see how the situation shall be remedied. *stands and bows*

And now back to the Senate room, my food is getting cold, and the ale flat!

*drops his gavel and clinks off to the Senate*

[Grond]

Dearest Elessar. I would love to claim the Valadom of Utumno and Angband but, alas, Grond has a dire fear of rust and since both realms lie at the bottom of the ocean, one would need to be unafraid of the water.

T'was a marvelous thought though. For now, Grond shall remain an unemployed "Mace of Malice", "Mallet of Mayhem", "Hammer of Hatred"..... woooo that's a little strong. "Hammer of Happiness":D Yup, that's the ticket. After all, it's entirely too close to Christmas to be malicious or hateful..

BTW, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.:)

[¤-Elessar-¤]

1)Elessar, seeing ciryahers eagerness in leaving him, drops into a desk, grabs the Imperial Ink and Parchment, and begins to write.

Dear my good village idiot (Ciryaher),

It would seem that thou are mistaken, for you said only that thou might claim thta land in the future, as your empire grew, but this time I beat you to the punch (so to speak) the land is mine, the people in it are mine, and you have no say in it. Make war on me merely for the conquest and I dare say that not only shall I enjoy it, but I do beleive it would be rather...bloody on your part. Have a problem with any of this? If you do you can come un-armed to my halls at Thalionost.


Elessar- €

2) Grond, Im sorry, I ment the kingdom of Angmar, at the northern end of the Misty Mountans.

[Grond]

Alas, good Elessar. I am unsure in whose realm those lands now lie. If they lie in yours and thou are offering them to me, then surely I will take them. If, however, they lie in the lands of Ciryaher, Grond art sure they will not be offered.

Beside, Grond doesn't do too well as a noble. Grond works much better when strapped to a hand or worn at the belt.;)

[¤-Elessar-¤]

G.D. it, it would seem that I am once again confused and mistaken. He claimed that he might take the lands under the Isen, while the ones that I claimed were above it. He never really Claimed the lands that I did. He claimed all lands east of the misty mountains, and only part of my land was east of the misty mountains. Damn it Ciryaher, why couldnt you had stated your northern and southern borders as well? On the map in the RoTK it only shows Eriador as being from teh greyflood to the Ered Luin, the type curves up to miss the river, I interpreted this as the land stopped there. I think we need an impartial jude on this subject. That excludes mike and eomer, and your wife of course, and Tar, and all of the other many people who rather dis-like me. How about Dengen? I vote for dengen. Well, Ciryaher, what'll it be?

[Ciryaher]

A) My original Kingdom of Arnor(before the Empire) consisted of the kingdoms of Arthedain, Cardolan, and Rhudaur

B) In my Imperial Decree, I claimed ALL lands between the Misty Mountains to the Great Sea, and from the Icebays of Forochel to the Isen (not a quote, but that is what is clearly mean't) I of course excluded the Mithlond, Rivendell, and the Dwarven Kingdoms from the annexation. Since the Shire was always officially part of Arnor, I had no need to claim it again.

C) I caused no bloodshed in these annexations, and stated that I was going to rebuild the old cities in the Minhriath and the Enedwaith (Lond Daer and Tharbad in particular) and did not treat the Shire any differently than before.

D) I have no intentions of claiming any other lands except perhaps the land between the Isen and the Ered Nimrais (Druwaith Iaur)


I clearly stated my auspices, and Dengen is as good a judge as any. Judge he may, but would it not be easier to be content with what you have? I did not declare any taxes on you so I truly do not the the point of your endless--excuse the straightforwardness--*****ing.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

no, that (, and from the Icebays of Forochel to the Isen) was not in the original copy, and that was not clear. I do hereby challenge your right to claim this land from me. €

[Grond]

And, should the conflict come to blows, Grond, the unemployed hammer, is at either of your services to be their weapon of choice. By the way, I really like to be hung from a rather wide and dark leather belt. My handle is leather but I like to be hooked to the belt via mithril chain links and I like to hang about 16 inches off the hip. My leather color goes best if you wear mithril link armor in the silver hue as my dark color clashes with most gold outfits. I also like my bearer to be adorned with a helmet/crown which is of the same forged mithril steel trimmed with black sable. Oh yeah, and for boots, it's the only place I like white. Black leather boots to the knee trimmed with white mink fur at the top.

Now, you have all my requirements. If you want me, I can be found at the Silver Dragon between dusk and dawn, seven days a week.:cool:

[Eomer Dinmention]

Cir i have shorten my name if is still too long then speak to me
i thankyou for inviting me to this banquet but i am afraid i have to leave being a King is hard and you know that




p.s please call me Eomer i accidently pressed the r

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Nothanks grond, im not into that kinky stuff.(lol) And ciryaher, Ill expect you to reply soon to...something or other. And where the **** is dengen.....

[Ciryaher]

*walks in rather disgruntledly from the feasting*

You are not satisfied with the land you now rule? *thinks* I will give you until the end of the Yule feasting to reconsider your complaint. I will not argue this during my time of mirth.

*bows stiffly and returns to the banquet hall*

[Mithrandir]

Ciryaher your fine words might be talking you from peace to war!!!!!

If you are not careful than you do not want to know what is going to happen.

I warn you, beware the power of the White Wizards, beware what might happen if you offend Ellesar, or try to take our land.

That is all I have to say, you may take it as you will.
~Mithers

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Ciryaher, I am glad to see that thou hast made it to a computer. I have no lands other than those that thou claim art yours. Mith, I must ask that you do not push this, even though most of the countries have recognized my country as my own, Dengen has not, and he was the appointed judge and we cannot decide for sure until he returns and decides or hands the decision to someone else, either way, it is his call.

[Beorn]

*Mike employs Grond*

A payment shall be discussed

[Ciryaher]

*storms back into the throne room*

Are the Istari neutral or not? I may offend or defend whomever I please, and I may certainly do so without YOUR permission! Begone if you think you are so mighty as to be able to command Arnor or its leaders as though they are your puppets.

The Istari have no land, and they rule nothing. They are a council of the so-called 'Wise'. You show little wisdom if you think you rule anything, and less at subtly threatening those that control many lands and have many allies.

*considers going back into the banquet hall, then reconsiders*

Guards, see these gentlemen to the gates! I will have no troublemakers in my abode!

*Ciryaher's hands glow brightly as he raises an electrostatic shield around himself to ward off any offensive spells*

[¤-Elessar-¤]

* Elessar, feeling the evil energy radiating from Ciryaher, Draws Durist and stands ready

"Ciryaher, do not do it, you are outnumbered and overmatched by Mithrandirs powers." Elessar watches as the two figures stare each other down. "Peace is at hand now, do not ruin it." Elessar shouts over the two menacing figures. "No battle, be it of steel or of magic, should take place now, for both enimies and friends feast in the halls of Ciryaher. Do not anger him more, mithrandir, your time will come.

[Mithrandir]

Mithrandir grows tall and menacing, a light growing in his eyes piercing the ver soul od Ciryaher. Electricity starts boucing off the walls, the tension in the room is so great that it feels like it will explode.

Then out of no where he returns to looking like a weak old man. I will not start a war here and now. The Isari WERE neutral in the war that was about to break out. Since then we have been watching you very carefully Ciryaher, and have not been pleased. You use sly words to make yourself look good, but I know your heart. Do not think that you have solved eveything by winning this battle w/ Elesar. The Istari are wise, wiser than you wil ever know, and we know what must be done. If I wanted to I could break you right now, no one not even Elessar knows my true power, it has never been revealed, not even at the battle of the Silver Dragon.

I will take the minor insults you have thrown at me and my council and forgive you of them, but you have not seen the last of me, nor my council. Even though we have no land, it does not mean thatwe do not side w/ ones who do.

Elessar, I will be waiting for you @ your castle, we have much to discuss my friend.

I do not need these fools to show me out the door.

In an instant Mithrandir is gone from the room, no one knowing where he has gone.

[Ciryaher]

*shouts out loud, while telepathing to Mithrandir*

Do not think that I stand alone. The great realms and forces in Middle-Earth have given me council, and if your merry flock of fools thinks it can gallavant around acting all high and mighty. You are setting your foot in too deep a pool, and you will soon be over your head.

I do not need your forgiveness. So fly back to your little castle. You can babble on into the wind from there.

[Beorn]

With Ciryaher Mike stands! We are allies, and an ally helps his friend no matter what!

[HLGStrider]

Oh goodie... More fun. I guess I will have to support Elassar again (Not that that will cause much relief to him or worry to Cir.). I offer to compose the epic poem at the end on how the whole thing goes. That might be the only thing I am good for. ;)

[Mithrandir]

Mithrandir telepathicly talks to Ciryaher, yet everone in the room can hear it,
"Your babbling shows your foolish ignorance. You have no idea the power of me alone, and how much damage I may due to your forces by myself. But if that isn't enough you would be against the entire White Council, their Wizards, and countless allies. You do not even want to know how much trouble your petty little kingdom would be in if a war were to start w/ the Istari. I warn you "king" be careful the words you choose"
~Mithers

[Ciryaher]

*laughs grimly*

You would challenge the combined might or Arnor, Gondor, Mordor, Harad, and the Blue Mountains? You should go back to your do-gooding and stop meddling with the affairs of Kingdoms. The Dark Legion is just as mighty as the Istar Council, and just because you are Tan Istar doesn't mean all of the Istari will follow you on your quest of madness.

[Eomer Dinmention]

Cir i have pledged Allegiance to you and i will stick to it forever but if ever war occurs between either you or Mith then i shall have to stand by Mithrandir i hope you understand i only seek happiness and Peace

If you wonder why i chose Mith it was because the Dark Legion is on your side and i can not fight with them

But the one thing that kills me the most is that Mikeand his Kingdom of Gondor is also fighting by yourside and that kills me most that i shall never fight side by side with Gondor but only against them :(

[Talierin]

I stand with Mike, being a former Queen of Gondor. Apologies to the Wizards, but it's a loyalty thing.

[Ciryaher]

Scribes! Record this...

FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, any person who claims any territory without the direct consent of Arnor west of the Mountains, Gondor east of the Mountains, or Mordor in the south, shall be immediately be subjected to a declaration of war on the claimant and any who follow him/her.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

[Dengen-Goroth]

After a run in with a faulty stupid mouse, I am back. I am honoured to hve been called the judge,and from this point foward, I Dengen-Goroth, Dark Lord of Modor and South Ithilien, proclaim that Both parties shall speak their cause now! No arguments, be civilized. War is near to begin, and the likes of this war shall be dire indeed. Many ancient ties seemingly erode in this as we procced. If war is to be averted, then indeed my doom must be respected and acknowldged by all. Any and all who have land must now pledge that they shll indeem fallow the Doom of Goroth as it is writen. Now Ellesar and Ciryaher Hyermandacil III, first bring forth how each of you came to power in your respective territories, then your ancestral "trees". Last describe to me as best as possible your time of rule, a chronology of sorts. That is all which I desire. Those three arenecessary, and if one of you does not present the needed material, then you are at a lack of information to support your claim, and therefor are but a usurper. Many thanks.

[Tar-Ancalime]

War was brewing here for many a day. Luckily someone here will listen to neutrality. Can anyone stay on a side at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????

[Dengen-Goroth]

I think i'll start a new thread for this because this may yet get dirty. Being a judge, what a life. So as no one is offended, the entire affair shall be held in Tolfalas. If anyone has any objections, do tell via PM.

[Ciryaher]

*stands and raises the Sceptre of Annuminas in his left hand, and his great axe in the right, holding them vertically*

Hear This!

Long have I pondered tidings and councils, but I must now exercise the Might of Arnor.

I do now declare war on the White Council, to break it and force it down to a level which I deem reasonable. I also declare war on all who ally themselves with the White Council, and they shall be shown less mercy than I shall show the Council itself.

*crosses the Sceptre and axe and raises them high*

I now call upon all, friend or foe, to join the banners of whom you might. The time of peace is exhausted. The thunder of feet and hooves and the ring of drawn swords and singing bow will now be heard across the Earth. As a sign of wartime, let the sun rain blood upon the land.

*lowers the sceptre and axe, and his eyes seem to swallow up light. The sun flickers for a moment, and fire begin to erupt from it. Dark splotches appear on her surface, and the light begins to turn a red hue. Shadows mysteriously disappear, and all the world is covered with a crimson light. Ciryaher raises his arms into the air and calls loudly. The world becomes utterly black for a moment, then there is an explosion of blinding light, and the sun appears once again in the sky*

[Tar-Ancalime]

*Tar Enters in her royal garmets*



And finally a long-expected war erupted in middle-earth. The watchful peace was broken. The seemingly peaceful coexistence was destoyed and we again are in a seemingly long conflict. May the Yule still be regarded!

*and leaves as quickly as she came*

[Reoko]

Cir if the are in desprate need call me and i shall try to help as much as my fighting powers allow

[Mithrandir]

SO it is you after all who will start this war. YOU HAVE NO IDEA THE MISTAKE YOU HAVE MADE THIS DAY!!!!!!! You have npo idea the power of the council you have just declared war upon, nor the strength of it's ally's. We shall fight, much to the dismay of others, it shall be longand bloody, but in the end it will be you who is brought down in power.
THE STRENGTH OF THE WHITE COUNCIL LIVES FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

[Tar-Ancalime]

the blest in this war are the Neutral!!!This war shall most likely be as damaging as RP6.

[Ciryaher]

Ha! Neutrality is no guarantee in life. I suggest that all that claim to be neutral find a good place to hide. This is the Dagor Dagorath as far as I am concerned.

[Tar-Ancalime]

Well excuse me..but hurling headlong into battle and loosing it all

[Eomer Dinmention]

Cir i am unhappy you have declared war against the WHite Council as being the Ally of the White COuncil then you will also have to battle the kingdom of Rohan i suggest that you stop this war before your kingdom dies

[Chippy]

King Eormer,

As u know and should know Mike and I stand with Ciryaher ...and according to your signature ....

"I vow in my own name and on behalf of the Éothéod of the North that between us and the Great People of Gondor there shall be friendship for ever: there enemies shall be our enemies, there needs shall be our needs and so on" May the Oath of Eorl to Gondor never be forgotten

I ask u what are u going to do? ....keep your promise..or......will war break out between our land?? Gondor will not strike first ....
We do not want a war

[Eomer Dinmention]

I am afraid i will have to break that Oath once made by Eorl to the land of Gondor and to Cirion unless Gondor will join Mith for i will stand by Mith's side forever even if we are the only two alive against Cir and his Allys

I hope Gondor will make the right desicion and if ever our kingdoms are friends then i shall pledge that Oath again

[Eomer Dinmention]

As you have read my signature if ever Rohan has to battle against Gondor we will not attack them but if they attack us then we shall be forced to protect our kingdom and try and defeat the m

[Ciryaher]

The King of Rohan has backed himself into a corner of his own making. No matter what he does, he will dishonor himself, whether it be to break an oath, or to attempt to withdraw from one...

[Dengen-Goroth]

Eomer, what is it that compels yo to remain with Mihrandir the Istari. Why does it drive you to the point were you shall sever the ties made for many an age! if you do sway against Gondor, indeed shall you make an error. Think your decision over well. Ciryaher is not a tyrant, and has done nothing wrong. The Istari seemingly have gone into business which is not theres. Are they the judges of Middle Earth?

[Eomer Dinmention]

I shall stand by Mith, for i have been under his command for a quite sometime now and i will not abandon him he has been my counsellor for quite some while. Also that Cir has been, how should i say, rude to one of my most loyal and trust worthy friend and wizard and i cant just let that fly away

[Tar-Ancalime]

You made an oath to Gondor...you said it yourself in you sig

[Eomer Dinmention]

No Tar i did not make that Oath myself Eorl did to Cirion and the people of Gondor not I

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Ship King, southvictor! I challenge thee. You are a coward and a fool of biblical proportions. You challenge the silver wizards. the steel of your armies shall fail at the sight of Eomer and I. Plantiri I have found and we will use, for my will is a match even for that of Ciryaher. As for my land, it is mine not yours, as is stated in appendix A of RoTK. I call upon all of the guilds who oppose themselves to the Dark Legion to send a rep to Arandor, I Name the realms of Gondor and Arnor evil. They have turned from the light. Mike B shall feel my wrath. You betrayed my trust. Women apparently have taste in evil, if they were to elect such a fool as king. You owe your kingdom to the Mark, and I plan to see you die by their blades. I will stand on the side of right until my sword is broken and my helm cracked. Day shall come again!

[Kit Baggins]

What's going on? Is this another war, or what :confused: ?
Somebody tell me, please!!

~Kit The Confused :confused:

[Beorn]

Actually, Eomer:

I vow in my own name and on behalf of the Éothéod of the North that between us and the Great People of Gondor there shall be friendship for ever: there enemies shall be our enemies, there needs shall be our needs and so on"
May the Oath of Eorl to Gondor never be forgotten

You outright say that you vow that my & Chippy's enemies are your enemies! Get rid of the sig, or be our allies.

[Tar-Ancalime]

the oath of eorl is an everlasting oath...made to say rohan and gondor have the same enemies.

And elessar...are you talking about ME! Little old Tar-Ancalime

[Ciryaher]

Tar-Ancalime...word has reached my ears that you think me a fool? I am sure the wise Dengen-Goroth, whom you cling so closely to, would disagree. I ask that you cease making backhanded comments to my Lady.

Do not test my patience.

Elessar, it is good that you make solid my alliances by declaring my allies you enemies. Now you can be assured of attacks by all manner of forces from the mights of Mordor, Men, and the sturdy Naugrim.

[Tar-Ancalime]

I think you not a fool... for a fool would not run and empire so well and naturally. And I have a life aside from dengen.

and any comments we made are between friends.they mean little and we are only joking.

[Ciryaher]

Very good, then.

I am a person of understanding, and will set aside such things.

[Tar-Ancalime]

Thank you...
*tar finnally breaths normal again since she felt as if a daggar had neared her neck*

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Mordor? You have dragged the forces of Goroth into this, you are truely a coward. I will stop not on this earth until vengence is mine.

[Tar-Ancalime]

why is he a coward for bringing mordor in???

And why are you so against me elessar???:confused:

[¤-Elessar-¤]

i have nothing against you, Mordor wanted to stay neutral, and Ciryaher pulled them in. I pledge to whipe out the forces of evil who ally themselves with the shipking. If you do so, then, and only then, am I against you.

[Dengen-Goroth]

Have I declared war upon you Ellesar? NAY. And as I remain judge I am unable to do so, though I as of now have no such intentions, not on you, but others perhaps...
*Unless you declare war upon me that is

[Tar-Ancalime]

Elessar, then you are allied with the white wizard correct...you still may fight some of mordor...

[¤-Elessar-¤]

are you all quite insane? You declaire war on the white council and then decide it is all about Mith? The white council is not only the white wizard, it is all of them, only the heads of the guilds call themselves the white council, but we are all a part of it! When you declaired war on us you declaired war on our countries too, wether intentional or not! When you state troops that you have and pledge allegiance to one who fights me, and you pledge no allegiance to me, than you have pledged to fight me, whether you meant to or not. Lay yourselves not in a limbo, saying that you meant other than you have shown. Ciryaher named the war black and white, and that is how it is, and how it was when you, Dengen Goroth, joined it. There are two sides, and you have pledged your soul to black, darkness, evil encarnite!

I remove myself from this thread, for it reeks of stupidity, if you wish to see me, i shall be in Arandor, fighting Ciryaher!

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[Dengen-Goroth]

But there is always a shade of grey! Yet if you chose to declare war on me, as yo just so boldly stated, so be it. For as far as I see it you have not even entered the Court, meaning you have no evidence to back your claim! And making the preposterous claim that you, who is supposed to be an heir to the throne of Arnor, meaning a MAN, are actually a MAIAR. Ciryaher is not evil, nor is Gondor, Arnor, or Mordor. He took a land left to despaire, and afterwards you came over and said it was yours. There was peace here, and this war may have been avoided had you come to the Court as Ciryaher had, but you did not. Bring no blame upon my head for wat is about to happen, for you have unleashed Mordor, and my armies have hungered for war.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

I COULDNT COME TO THE DARN COURT. I WAS STUCK AT HOME WITH A BLOWN UP MONITOR! I CAME BACK AND STATED THAT MY CASE RESTED IN APPENDIX A OF RoTK. DIDNT ANYONE BOTHER TO READ THAT? I DONT WANT THE THRONE OF ARNOR! ALL I WANT IS PEACEFUL LITTLE ARANDOR!

I cannot beleive this, Ciryaher makes war on me for naught but senseless conquest, and all that you people do is say that he is right in doing so? You say that I have no right to rule a land that was as Arnor was before he came? I followed his freaking example, take a land ravaged by war and make it prosper! Doesnt anyone have a brain? Mike B pledged alliance to Rohan and I, and then he goes and backs Ciryaher as he pounds on the gates of Mians-Forn! Think, all of you, think about this. Do you seriously think that this is right? Shame to you all! (exits in a sorm of dust)

[Tar-Ancalime]

may the sanity that was once here be found...PLEASE.

[Dengen-Goroth]

There are ties wrought of old which still linger, and Gondor and Arnor were from Elendil both! Rohan foolishly went against Gondor, and broke the great Oath. Battle is at hand, and words may no longer avail anyone. Had you NOT allied with Eomer and Mithrandir, you would not have been assaulted, the war was not declared upon you.

[Beorn]

I joined with you in the beginnning because it seemed to me that Ciryaher was usurping lands. Never did I say that I would fight against him. I said that I would defend myself if I felt that Gondor was being threatened. I left you because your true nature came out and I found Ciryaher NOT to be usurping lands. You claimed to be the heir to Isildur and a bunch of all that, and how everything should be YOURS. But, these lands were assigned their ruler by our methods, not the methods of old. If you have a problem with Ciryaher being ruler of Arnor, you have a problem with me. If you have a problem with me being King of Gondor, you have a problem with me, and I suspect with Dengen and Ciryaher. We have made our own methods for PEACE, and you come around with the old methods which we abandoned.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Mike B, Ciryaher is still usurping lands, MINE, and for no reason, you fool, I cannot beleive you are this blind, dont you think that by the time you have allied yourself with Mordor that there might be something wrong?

[Dengen-Goroth]

Plainly you are now against me, so therefr i will tell you this. Mordor does not always have to be a scum and evil land! You came here and began this war, and Mike has made the proper desicion. Only after Ciryaher took his proper lands, wich were in decay and run, FILTH, did you say they were yours. Now i attempted to be non-hostile, and would not have dclared war on you. But you had to be hot headed, which will be your downfall. I shall have no more of this slander against Mordor, you know not of what you speak! Prepare for war, for it is you who have brought this upon yourself Ellesar the imposter!

[Beorn]

I believe you are the one who started all this. Perhaps you are now the evil lands, not Mordor. In my eyes, Mordor is good.

Do not say I am blind, for you are the one with three nations against you as you continue to fight. You've but one nation with yours. We are the largest nations, might I add, so undoubtedly we have many more people than you.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

HELLO?!?!? YOU CLAIMED YOURSELF DARK LORD.

ISNT THE DARK LORD EVIL? YOU PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO TOLD ME WE CANT CHANGE ANYTHING TOLKIEN WROTE ABOUT! NOW WE HAVE A DARK LORD ALLIED WITH THE NATIONS BUILT TO OPPOSE MORDOR! ANYONE ELSE SEE ANYTHING F-ED UP WITH THIS PICTURE?

[Kementari]

I concur with you Elessar. Only in this matter though :D

[Dengen-Goroth]

We are "in" the Fourh Age, Mordor may turn to the light if it so choses! Nothing wrong with that. You, in yur desperation, because of Mordor's strength, are trying to turn my allies against me.

[Ciryaher]

I do not consider Dengen a 'good' entity. Mordor may make war and ally with whomever it chooses, and just because it happens to be Gondor and Arnor doesn't mean he is good, and it doesn't mean we are evil.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Beleive what you wish. Wether black or white (or purple ;)). Evil is simply the malice of Melkor that is left on the earth. Sauron was Evil, as all Dark Lords are and will be. I just cannot beleive than Kementari, Yavanna to the elven people, has turned and claims alleginance to a dark lord.

[Tar-Ancalime]

thats mean...i'm evil too:( (i just thought i was slightly controversial:D :D )

[Dengen-Goroth]

Come on, stop trying to get all my allies to turn against me just because I'm the Dark Lord. *He' only trying to get me out of the picture*

[Tar-Ancalime]

yeah stop it...:mad: :mad:
I dont' think i'm evil at all

[Reoko]

tar you are evil. your the dark queen.:D

[Tar-Ancalime]

everyones turning against me!!!!!!!!!!!

I am only evil in the eyes of good

[Reoko]

i'm not against you just stating the truth and you know it's true.

[Tar-Ancalime]

*tear*
evil is good and good is evil

[Ciryaher]

*speaks to Reoko and Tar-Ancalime*

This is the Court of Arnor, and if you do not cease your off topic discussions I will not permit you to post on these threads.

*to Dengen*

You are my greatest ally, whether you be evil or no. I will not be turned from you so easily.

*to Elessar*

My Lady has not pledged alliegance to the Dark Lord, so do not suggest such a thing.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Dengen-Goroth
Dark Lord of Arda

IT IS HIS TITLE YOU STUPID IDIOT. IS YOUR GREATEST ALLY NOT YOUR WIFE'S ALSO? This, I beleive, defys all logic.

[Ciryaher]

SHE has not sworn any alliegance. The fact that Dengen is my ally does not mean I (nor her) have any alliegance to him.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

im sorry, allegiance was the wrong word, more like,
she has allied herself with the Dark Lord

[Ciryaher]

Again, SHE did not ally herself with the Dark Lord. Arnor allied itself with the Dark Lord.

[Dain Ironfoot]

Dain laughs "petty fights solve nothing..."

[Ciryaher]

Ahh, this is the Arnorian Senate, and unless you are an emissary of the Lord Telchar (which I deem you are not)...get out.

[Dain Ironfoot]

have it your way.....

[Kementari]

I would never allie myself with the Dark Lord. But i will ever trust my Beloved Lord Ciryaher. Dengen and i are actually sworn enemies, but we have found peace so long as he doesn't threaten my power :) hehe

[Aredhel]

I swear my alleigance to you, Your Imperialnist*bows*

[Tar-Ancalime]

Elessar, why must you go so low (not mentioning how low you are already)to insulting ladies!

[Aredhel]

I agree.

[Tar-Ancalime]

thank you...but thier endless arguments get tiring

[Aredhel]

they do, don't they. Why do they hate each other?

[Tar-Ancalime]

hmmm....llllllooooonnnnnggggg story...one want more power than other,like my summary.

in other words thier being normal guys

[Dain Ironfoot]

Cir, I lord of Moria, the Iron hills, the Emyn Uial mountains, Guild master of the Rangers, And 4'th in command of the silver wizerds... I will not take insults from a babbling fool such as yourself, If you futher Anger me in any way I WILL use dragons in the war. You messed up my polls and insulted me, but I forgive you for haveing your head up your as.... lets not go there right now. For now I will once again pledge my army, and my friendship to Ellesar.

[Tar-Ancalime]

see their they go again! It does not stop!

dain-whom are you talking to???

[Dain Ironfoot]

READ THE POST......

[Dengen-Goroth]

I am a friend of the dwarves of the Iron Hills, and Telchar is their Lord. If you claim Moria, which was his, and now claim he IrnHills, which are his, and continu these pointless and very annoying posts of heads up --- I will bring your head to Arnor myself! You claimed to be maia, even though you posses a dwarf name, took Moria, for Ellesar obviously *and by the way, I'm sick of My name as Dark Lord being treated like filth which no one wants to associate themselevs with. Kem has pledged nothing with me!* You have take far more land then is good for you lord dwarf. I sugest you do not attempt to steal anymore. Also, don't try taking the Blue Mountains or Misty mountains, strangely enough, guess what, they're Telchar 's to!

[Dain Ironfoot]

well, If what you say is true than the war will decide who gets what. But the war is pointless because Cir will just delete any posts he feels puts he on the losing side.....

[Dengen-Goroth]

Ciryaher has the power of Moderator, and in my time here I have not seen him abuse it, even when He and myself were at the complete opposite side of the spectrum, so I don't think he will do that now.

[Dain Ironfoot]

He used it to screw with my poll, now that is just sad. It had nothing to do with the war and yet he made it about 234658791 to 2.............. no He wouldn't abuse his power.......

[Talierin]

First off, Dain, don't blame Cir for something he didn't do. I messed with the poll as a joke. Also, stop claiming lands that aren't yours. Tel has had the Iron Hills and Moria for forever.

[Dain Ironfoot]

It wasn't funny...... And as I have stated before, the war shall decide...

[Kementari]

Hurray for Tal and Dengen!

TELCHAR HAS BEEN HERE ALOT LONGER THAN YOU DAIN.

[Aredhel]

Enough fighting, please(take it outside, heheheheh)

[Dengen-Goroth]

Dain brought it here. All he needed to do was look at the territories already held. that's all. Quite simple, but he wanted to complicate things a bit. This war will not decide as much as you may wish, because Telch claims those Lands, and i shall defend them with all my strength if you attempt to make war on them. They're not yours!

[Dain Ironfoot]

why must I repeat myself, I have allies that will back me up too smart stuff, WAR WILL DECIDE.....

[Dengen-Goroth]

Well then declare war on Telchar, because you want his lands. And to the void with your war! Why don't you take Gimli's city?

[Kementari]

Hes not good enough to take Argorlad (sp?)

[Dain Ironfoot]

I dont want war but it will come and it will change things.....

[Ciryaher]

No, he isn't good enough for Aglarond *winks at Kem*, or any kingdom of Narugrim, for that matter.

If you choose to remain, I will cut off your beard and see how much of a dwarf you really are...NOW GET OUT, FOOL!

[¤-Elessar-¤]

In no long time hast Tal claimed the lands of which you speek. I have seen none of this in the lands and territories thread. I say that if he claimed it after the RP6, than he has forfieted it, as he has not posted of it in the time of my memory. And, as for Kementari (and ONLY KEMENTARI'S ANSWER IS ACCEPTABLE FOR THIS QUESTION) How is it that you claim to be a Maia? For your name is that of a Valar, little miss queen of the earth. Tell me, did you not have to claim to be a Maia at one time or another, please tell me that you do not descriminate against Dain because he hasnt been here for ages, as have you! You are all but hypocrits! Cannot dain claim to be a Maia if dengen can claim to be one? They both have stories that spring from vertually none of tolkiens writings! You are all blind, you all persecute the innocent! Have patience with those of less knowledge, whether it be trivial or not! I cannot beleive you all act as such children!

[Kementari]

Elessar, PUL-EESE.
Kementari is my*account* name. I did claim to be a maia on the Older Forum under a different name when we started Role playing. Cir, Tar, Dengen, Tal, and you though you had a different account name, were there.
I feel like im in court and your some dumb lawyer trying to twist every little meaningless detail to make me look bad. :rolleyes:

[Tar-Ancalime]

What is it with you people!!!!

Elessar...you obvioulsy are not welcome here

Dain:Shut up for once

so in essence the only few here that are welcome...are , Dengen, and Kem, (possible me), and of course Cir

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Tar, SHUT YOUR HOLE.
I keep trying to keep peace with you but you just stick up for EVERYONE! I wouldn't even post here if ppl didnt insult me and ask me questions (usually after i've left, they dont quite get the concept of leaving) all the freaking time! I am sick of you people who do nothing but complain, all I did was start a rebellion out of temporary ignorance (the whole 2000 years into the 4th age thingy...), I peacefully claimed an unclaimed land. And ciryaher just wouldnt back off and accept it, now he claimed war on the white council for no reason and everyone is fighting us just because we are wizards, and guess what,
all of you evil people can just leave us alone!

we dont want anything to do with some senseless war, but if Ciryaher intends upon taking all lands from Arnor to Gondor I, for one, intend upon doing what is in my power to stop the infernal B*@#$rd from doing that kind of injustice! You can all go on and be blind and listen to the dark forces and such, but they have never and will never have your interests in mind and will more than likely try to crush you too, as history has clearly shown.

[Tar-Ancalime]

Elessar, I try as well..but your behaviour is apalling!Especially toward Kementari. It is a complaint of arguing not you alone, all i go on is arguing

[Ciryaher]

*smiles and nods as he signs a declaration of war on Arandor*

Telchar has repeatedly claimed to be the Lord of the Naugrim and had done so long before this Dain fellow. Besides, should not the lords od Dwarves be Dwarves themselves? What good does being a Maia bring you? Nothing! That is why Men control the Earth, and why the Ainur hide in their land with the Eldar.

And for all those who don't know already, this is the Arnorian Court, so if what you have to say doesn't deal with Arnor or a topic related to Arnor, then please say it elsewhere.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

A speed runner comes into the throneroom of Ciryaher. The star has been cut from his tunic. He hands Ciryaher a Parchment.

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Ciyaher III,

The tyrant is victorious. My hate for you grows every day I see the poison you put in peoples hearts. I can be a part of this no more. Give my appologies to your wife. I must ask you not to persue this further. Edenwaith's fate lies in the hands of Eomer, whom I am sure will make a wiser decision than I could had.

Your Counterpart: Elessar II

[Ciryaher]

*reads the parchment and hands it to the scribe to be stored*

Ahh, yes....Eomer...

*thinks darkly for a moment*

My men have intercepted a message from him to Mithrandir, I deem. He will pay the price for his insolence and haughty words. He now rules Arandor, eh?

*rubs his temples in thought, then closes his eyes*

Yes...Eomer shall pay a heavy toll, indeed...