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Michel Delving
03-25-2003, 12:21 AM
Dear Mr Jackson,

As I know you are a regular reader of these pages, I would like to bring to your attention my solution to your thorny problem of creating a physical presence for the Dark Lord in your lovely movie. I have single handedly reached the perfect conclusion and expect to be justly rewarded with a fantastic prize (free DVD's, insider set visits, trip to Mount Doom etc).

I was this very day reading The Silmarillion and came across a marvelous description of Sauron's shape shifting abilities. Where he changes from his true form to a Werewolf, to a Vampire etc etc.

Picture this scene: Gollum spits Frodo's finger from his mouth and dances his jig, slipping into the Crack of Doom. Zoom the camera across the plains of Mordor to Barad-Dur (in the way you do so well) to see an ugly dark shape, perhaphs enthroned and examining some ancient Sorcerers Almanac. His head snaps in the direction of Mount Doom and rises ( a la Morgoth) from his chair with a terrible cry. Moving from hideous darkness to full Battle armor, to Wolf etc we see his many guises. In this way you can satisfy everyone at once! Eventually culminating in a huge bat like shadow dissipating across the stormy sky as the Tower collapses.

Works for me.

Yours Sincerely,

M Delving, MD.

ladyoflorien
03-26-2003, 06:18 AM
too bad PJ couldn't see that!:D that'd be pretty cool!

Michel Delving
03-26-2003, 10:57 PM
PJ is watching, my lady.

Seen that hair, those big glasses, the belly bountiful - he's on the 'net every night!

Like me!:(

Feanorian
03-27-2003, 09:35 PM
Where did this come from, cause correct me I am wrong but Sauron did not have a physical form in LOTR besides the Eye, he had lost the ability to become a movable person and the destruction of the Ring lost all phyical abilities although still exsisted as a spirit.

Michel Delving
03-27-2003, 11:01 PM
The Silmarillion! :rolleyes:



read it and weep.......

apparently, once upon a time - Sauron was a handsome devil!

Feanorian
03-28-2003, 03:37 AM
Is this a response to my post? Cause if it is well then I am very aware of Annatar, that is 'Lord of Gifts' in Quenya, was the name which Sauron took in the early Second Age, when he again appeared fair and tried to influence the Elves of Eregion for his causes.


read it and weep.......

apparently, once upon a time - Sauron was a handsome devil!

ChunkyLover53
03-28-2003, 05:35 AM
I agree with gondorian###

he lost his ability to change shape either after the fall of the numenoreans or some time later...i'm not sure exactly, but i do remember his inability to change as he use to be able to do.

Mad Adski
03-28-2003, 05:20 PM
It would be the fall of Numenor - his body was destroyed and as his spirit limped back to Middle Earth - he found he'd lost the ability to take fair shape.

It's a buggar that! ;)

Michel Delving
03-28-2003, 07:41 PM
Here we go again:rolleyes:

Yes I was responding to you gondorian45, that's how a forum works. I didn't mean to offend your purist knowledge base.

I'm sure he did lose his shape and their are hints of it being reformed in LotR (the book). But we're talkin about the movie here folkses & orcses. And as you know, accuracy is out the window of Barad-dur for the sake of wondrous cinema.:p

Just trying to help PJ out of a corner.

Feanorian
03-29-2003, 06:31 PM
If we are talking about the movie here then why are you refrencing the Sil? Yes I am very of their inaccuracies:dmad: but I was not sure if they were going to attempt to shape him in the movie unless he comes out into open battle or something like that? Cause in LOTR we never see him up close and personal(in the book that is i dont know about the movie)besides when his voice.

I'm sure he did lose his shape and their are hints of it being reformed in LotR (the book). But we're talkin about the movie here folkses & orcses. And as you know, accuracy is out the window of Barad-dur for the sake of wondrous cinema.:p

Just trying to help PJ out of a corner. [/B][/QUOTE]

Michel Delving
03-30-2003, 09:44 AM
What do you mean you don't know about the movie, haven't you seen it. If not, why not and why are you commenting on it if you haven't?:p

I am referencing the description of Sauron in the Sil:rolleyes: (surely Silmarillion isn't too long to type) as a good way to show Sauron in the movie. It's not meant to be taken as a literal reference to the correct sections of The Sacred Works.

fun fun fun Sil your daddy takes your t-bird away.

Feanorian
03-30-2003, 07:06 PM
I was saying that I havent seen the third movie neither have any of us unless of course its been pirated:eek: :mad: ..........so we do not know how they will present him in the third movie.

Nóm
04-15-2003, 04:38 AM
See the thread Sauron's Eye (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=6044), for a good discussion about his form during the Third Age.

Hilarious Michel Delving. :D