View Full Version : Ash iist zi pukhl
Ledreanne313
04-02-2003, 11:46 PM
Translated: I know Black Speech.
And yes, I do. With much study, I have learned it quite well. Yet still, I have much to learn... and I may not pronounce the words correctly, which I am working on. Therefore, I will be willing to translate into The Black Speech.
Anne
Aiwendil2
04-03-2003, 12:22 AM
Sorry to sound cynical, but if you've learned this somewhere it's not Tolkien's Black Speech but something developed and expanded by someone else. Tolkien never invented any more Black Speech than the little that is found in LotR. There are only a few words known and almost nothing known about grammar.
Of course, I'm not saying you shouldn't study this language that you've found. Just be aware that it is not THE Black Speech of Middle-earth.
Ledreanne313
04-03-2003, 01:23 AM
Yes, of course, I know that. But some people here might not know that and want to learn it anyway. I found a good Source and I know a lot about WHAT I FOUND. So, thank you anyways.
BlackCaptain
04-03-2003, 10:09 PM
Could you say:
The Black Captain, lord of Darkness
?please?
Ledreanne313
04-04-2003, 01:28 AM
The Black Captain, Lord of darkness is translated:
Krita-zi, goth ob burzum
Here you are. Any more?
Aiwendil2, the source that I get the Black Speach from claims to have J.R.R. Tolkien's B.S. and I am not sure that they would lie. Yet of course, I have heard or seen no further refence in any books about B.S. Either may be right, I am not sure of either.
Anne
Tolkien language expert (and author of Ardalambion) wrote about Black Speech:
'Our would-be knowledge of the Black Speech is a huge, empty abyss. Towering up from unfathomed depths there is a tiny, slim pillar. On the top of that lonely pillar you'll find the Ring Inscription, an Orkish curse and a handful of Orc-names. And that is all. No other land in sight.' ~Helge Fauskanger 2002
For his look at BS, see Ardalambion (of course)
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Ledreanne313
04-18-2003, 04:52 AM
Yes, I found that out already, I just looked at that website before I saw your post.
Now I am excelled in all 14 languages *not from that website though* and will be willing to answer questions about any one. I will not be able to translate much, for most of the languages have not excelled much further than names of people and places. Yet I will help as much as I may.
Anne
Ancalagon
06-02-2003, 04:48 PM
That's is good to know Ledreanne313, Cian could sure use someone to help him out with Tolkiens languages. God knows, I am fed up trying to teach him:D
Hey, you're the one dragon your feet with regard to my lessons!
sorry
:D
Ancalagon
06-03-2003, 03:57 PM
:D
dragon my feet:) I am glad your humour has not been dimmed by all the study :p
Finduilas
07-01-2003, 07:32 PM
And how is 'I love you' in the Black Speech?:)
I'm very curious how it is told in every language...
Ledreanne313
07-03-2003, 12:47 AM
Of course it would not be correct...but:
da zash lat
Anne
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