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Nóm
04-27-2003, 05:39 AM
Greater love was given to Fingolfin and his sons, and his household and the most part of the dwellers in Tirion refused to renounce him, if he would go with them; and thus at the last as two divided hosts the Noldor set forth upon their bitter road.

I think it was the greatest forsaking that the people of Fingolfin would not renounce him if he would follow, considering that Fingolfin was against going, though he ended up going so not to forsake his people, because Fingon urged him, and because of his words to Feanor. Does this stink to anyone else? It may not be so bad as Feanor later forsaking Fingolfin's people, but this hits me harder because... well Feanor is Feanor. But that these people would forsake the beloved ruler is unsettling.
Fingolfin and Turgon spoke against Feanor but Feanor prevailed. How did Feanor's council to return to Middle-earth prevail and not his claim to the Kingship? These people loved Fingolfin but why didn't they listen to him then? They may not have taken Feanor as King, but had Fingfolin followed his wisdom and remained in Tirion he would have been renounced.

YayGollum
04-27-2003, 06:02 AM
Lady, it would have been nice if you had said more about the subject. As in, where were they going? Little things like that. oh well. No big deal. Let me see here. Lots of questions. I'll number them.

1. No, it doesn't stink to me. I could care less about the boring character. Feanor was much cooler. *hides*

2. Feanor won just because he's better at public speaking. sorry about that. Nothing Fingolfin could do about it.

3. Well, that second thing kind of answers this question. Whoops!

I'm guessing that you're a big fan of this Fingolfin person? Why? He's just another boring and typical heroic type. The Sil. has too many. oh well. I guess that the elves that liked following Feanor around weren't the smartest?

Nóm
04-27-2003, 06:48 AM
Lady, it would have been nice if you had said more about the subject. As in, where were they going? Little things like that.
They were leaving Tirion, to go to Middle-earth.

Feanor sure did have a way with words, and persuaded most of the Noldor do something very foolish. But it was not right for the people to renounce their ruler who they obviously loved more than Feanor, and who did not abandon them.

Yes, I am a fan of Fingolfin, he was a good guy, even though he wasn't mad, paranoid, spiteful, resentful, or a selfish initiator of kinslaying like the interesting Feanor.

YayGollum
04-27-2003, 10:52 AM
Well, I knew where they were going. I'm just saying that it would have been nice if you pointed a few things out. oh well. No big deal. Anyways, got it. Those Noldor people did something that wasn't right. Happens all the time. The Sil. is tragic. Too bad. Some of those people would have done whatever the Fingolfin person told them to do (the smarter ones), but most would go with Feanor. sorry about that.

Oo! I love that description of Feanor! Even though it does make him look bad, you point out that he's a lot more interesting. :D When was the guy mad, though? I'm guessing you meant crazy there.