New Guild-Master

[Lhunithiliel]

Members of the Guild of Tolkienology,

Most of you know that Grond is the Guild-Master of our guild.
He founded it, he developed it, he has done his very best to make this guild one of the most efficient in TTF!

However, because of numerous duties in r/l he hasn't been able to be with us as often as I'm sure he would have wished. That's why he appointed the Deputy Guild-Masters - me, Gate7ole, FoolOfATook and Hirila - each one of us - responsible for different fields of activity of the Guild:

>> me - Education
>> Gate - Debates
>> FoaT - Ranking

AND!!!!

>>> Hirila - New members and Complaints

Unfortunately, because of duties, Gate resigned from his Deputy-position and I took up his duties as well.

The Guild, however, as I see it, is running smoothly and I would say that no other guild or/and society in TTF is so active concerning the serious approach to Tolkien's writings!

This is surely reflected also in the fact that the Guild has it's representatives on some of the most important administrative bodies of the forum itself! This speaks highly of our efforts!

However, now, with some changes going on in TTF, there is a need of a defined Guild-Master.

This is why, me and FoolOfATook have decided to ask for your opinion of

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Who shall be the new Guild-Master ?
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We have 3 days - May, 5-th to 8-th to put forward nominations.
You are invited to nominate people from the Guild as possible Guild-leaders.

On May 8-th I'll open a poll with those names, that shall have received most of your votes and then in another 3-days period we shall vote for our guild new Guild-Master.

Post your nomibnations HERE in this thread.

You are also welcome to post any opinions and comments on this matter.

Expecting your active and constructive attitude,

Yours
Lhun :D

[Beleg]

Can we nominate any of the both "assistant Guild Masters" too?

[FoolOfATook]

Absolutely. Any Guild members in good standing, including myself and Lhun, are elligble for nomination. Unless you're asking if you can nominate new Deputy Guild Masters, which you cannot, at least for the time being.

[Hirila]

I nominate Lhunithiliel and FoolOfATook as Guild Master.
And perhaps Gil-Galad or Finduilas as new Deputy Guildmaster?

These positions have proven to be of much use, I think. We should keep them. Plus they are not as time consuming as that of Guild Master and will much easier find someone to fit in.

[Finduilas]

I nominate Lhun as a new Guild Master and as a Deputy Guildmaster GG. I think that Lhun is the most appropriate person for the Guild Master rank.

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Hirila
I nominate Lhunithiliel and FoolOfATook as Guild Master.
And perhaps Gil-Galad or Finduilas as new Deputy Guildmaster?

These positions have proven to be of much use, I think. We should keep them. Plus they are not as time consuming as that of Guild Master and will much easier find someone to fit in.
LOL, Hirila!
Once I asked Grond: "Tell me Master, with so many deputies what then will YOU do if they do the whole work for the Guild? ;)"
And he answered: "Order, dear Lhun! Give orders!" :p :p :p :p :D

Thanks everyone for the interest shown!
This IS important for the Guild!

At your service!

[Gil-Galad]

I saw Lhun had been nominated for Master,so I just want to mention that I agree with her nomination.Concerning Deputy,I can't say anything having in mind that I was nominated to.I want to thank for the nomination made by Hirila i Finduilas.

[Mrs. Maggott]

Go, Lhun! :D

[Ithrynluin]

An outsider opinion:
Either Lhun or FoaT should be the (deputy) Guildmaster (and have moderating abilities within the guild) IMHO...they have both invested a lot of their time and effort into making this guild run smoothly and efficiently.:)

[Lhunithiliel]

That's just G R E A T!!!!!

From 24 members of the GOT, according to the list, only 4 have posted their opinions so far!!!!

Just great! :( :mad:

[Ithrynluin]

Hey, don't forget one ex-member, Lhun.:D

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by ithrynluin
Hey, don't forget one ex-member, Lhun.:D Ah! Ithy OF COURSE!!!!!!! :D
But have in mind that the ex-members are are always welcome back! ;) :D

[Eöl]

Hmm....It's a hard choice, but both Lhun and FoaT have done an excellent job keeping track of everything around here while Grond has been gone. I nominate both!:) See, now 5 people posted their thoughts Lhun...:D

[Eledhwen]

Lhunithiliel and FoolOfaTook.

[Finarfin]

Lhun and FoolOfATook, they're running the show

[Beleg]

Right, Lhunithiel for the Guild Mastery, and Mrs.Maggot for the Deputy Guild Mastery

[Mrs. Maggott]

Originally posted by Beleg_strongbow
Right, Lhunithiel for the Guild Mastery, and Mrs.Maggot for the Deputy Guild Mastery
Mrs. Maggott is rather overcome that someone of Beleg's shining brilliance sees fit to nominate her for anything in the Guild, but surely there are others here far more qualified than I.

I certainly would be willing to assist whomever is elected to fill this position and especially our new (and lovely) Guildmaster, but I fear that my shortcomings would only handicap her efforts to invigorate and inspire the Guild to bigger and better things. This is especially true at the moment with the birth-pangs of the C/9. I would therefore ask to be excused from holding a particular office within the Guild until things are a bit more settled. However, I have been keeping apprised of happenings here and have volunteered to add my poor efforts to Gil-galad's development of a repository of character biographies!

Again, I am honored that I should even be thought of to fill a position of authority in the Guild, but I feel that at the moment I am not able to give it all the effort and concentration required to serve my fellow members.

[Elennainie]

I third, fourth, fifth, or whatever number we're on now, Lhun's nomination.

[Lhunithiliel]

I am giving to the "nomination" - process another couple of days. I hope we'll get the opinions of the rest of the members :D

On Sunday I'll open the poll for the elections for a new Guild-Master.

Then, he or she ;) :p shall have to step forward with some ideas concerning the Deputy-ship, plus the overall organization of the Guild's activity.

Lhun.... at your service :D

[gate7ole]

I have been absent for a long time from the activities of the guild, and sadly don’t see any chance of returning to full participation of the guild. Unfortunately life responsibilities have become very time-consuming. But I couldn’t stay outside this important event of our guild, the change of leadership.
Being one of the oldest members of the guild (if not the oldest “active” one), Lhun is, I believe, the more suitable person for the leadership, keeping in mind also that she has spend much effort all the months and is the most “recognizable” person within the guild. I also know from our personal collaboration during my time as a Deputy that she has much energy and will inside her, to run the place smoothly. Besides, the last 4 months she has been the driving force of this guild, being in a way the Guild Master even unofficially. What is now our responsibility is to appraise all her efforts and name her typically and beyond doubt the Guild Master of the guild of Tolkienology. And from the people replying this thread so far, I see that you agree with what I just said.
Another person that has also spent much time recently and deserves some recognition FoolOfATook, can and should be given the position of Assistant Guild Master, a rank that was held by Maedhros during Grond’s time, showing it’s great importance. I’m sure FoAT can handle it very well :)
Finally, another Deputy can be used next to Hirila (btw Hirila, my congrats for your new position). My vote would go to Gil-Galad who has also expressed his will to be a deputy one day. Well, I guess here’s your chance :)

[Mrs. Maggott]

I second the above. :p

[FoolOfATook]

Lhun, after seeing this thread, I think that we don't need to hold elections- it seems that all the members agree that you are the one to hold the position of Guild Master!

At any rate, the elections would be rather one-sided, since I plan on voting for you. I would, however, happily accept the rank of Assistant Guild Master, if it were offered, and I agree with everyone who wants to make Gil-Galad a new deputy.

Just my two cents. ;)

[Walter]

As much as Grond was a "guild daddy" (before he abandoned his "baby") as much would Lhun - IMO - be able to be a "guild mom" and nurture this guild.

It might become a gigantic baby... ;)

[FoolOfATook]

As much as Grond was a "guild daddy" (before he abandoned his "baby") as much would Lhun - IMO - be able to be a "guild mom" and nurture this guild.

Does that make the Deputy Guildmasters "Guild Older Cousins"? ;)

[Mrs. Maggott]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook
Lhun, after seeing this thread, I think that we don't need to hold elections- it seems that all the members agree that you are the one to hold the position of Guild Master!

At any rate, the elections would be rather one-sided, since I plan on voting for you. I would, however, happily accept the rank of Assistant Guild Master, if it were offered, and I agree with everyone who wants to make Gil-Galad a new deputy.

Just my two cents. ;)
Gads! Forsooth! With such talent at the helm, we shall be unstoppable! Invincible!! Ominipotent!!!..... er, real good maybe? (slinks off muttering....)

[Walter]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook
Does that make the Deputy Guildmasters "Guild Older Cousins"? ;) Why would you ask that, UNCLE Took? ;)

Now, who could we elect "guild-granny" here? :P

[Mrs. Maggott]

Originally posted by Walter
Why would you ask that, UNCLE Took? ;)

Now, who could we elect "guild-granny" here? :P
Hmmmmmm.......whom didst thou havest in mind, good sir?

[Walter]

Originally posted by Mrs. Maggott
Hmmmmmm.......whom didst thou havest in mind, good sir? Ummm...ermmm....I'd lie if I said "none in particular"... :D

So I'll say it straight: The only lady that would rightfully deserve this title - and all the due respect going along with it - are you, my dear Mrs. Maggott! ;)

[Mrs. Maggott]

Originally posted by Walter
Ummm...ermmm....I'd lie if I said "none in particular"... :D

So I'll say it straight: The only lady that would rightfully deserve this title - and all the due respect going along with it - are you, my dear Mrs. Maggott! ;)
Bless you my dear Walter. I would be happy to accept a title with this Guild of the forum's most wonderful and talented people. Indeed, I was happy to be "let in"....

So, as any good "Granny" would, I am here with a shoulder to cry on or a place to "vent" for anyone who needs one or the other - and whatever is said will go no further..... Grannies are good "secret keepers"! :p

God bless!

[Maedhros]

I think it's very fitting that Lhun is the new Guild master of the Tolkienologists.:)
She is definitively the Guild's Mom. ;)
Congratulations.

[Gil-Galad]

WOW!It is almost obvious that Lhun is going to be the new Guild Master.And why not FOAT Assistant master?!And concerning Deputies I want to thank to those who nominated me.Thanks guys,I haven't expected there would be anyone to nominate me.:)

[Mrs. Maggott]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
WOW!It is almost obvious that Lhun is going to be the new Guild Master.And why not FOAT Assistant master?!And concerning Deputies I want to thank to those who nominated me.Thanks guys,I haven't expected there would be anyone to nominate me.:)
And why not? Who is more worthy to be nominated? (And, of course, you have fully recovered, so we need not fear that we will cause a "relapse" of your health problems!)

So, good luck and God bless! :p

[Lhunithiliel]

Well.....well.....well....

What are my eyes reading?!!! ;)
Congratulations?....... To me? .......Already?!? :D

Hey....But I'm trying to hold the principles of democracy here.... and now... What?... No final stage of elections?

So many of you have said such nice things about me.... :o

THANK YOU!!!!

You know what?... What REALLY makes me happy is the large "family" we are becoming! ;) ;) - a "daddy" (well, unfortunately, daddies often go away); a "mom" (in r/l they say I'm a good one); a "granny" , an "uncle", family friends... and so on...

Our "baby" is surely to be one of the luckiest and happiest babies in this virtual world! :D

[Walter]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Well.....well.....well....

What are my eyes reading?!!! ;)
Congratulations?....... To me? .......Already?!? :D

Hey....But I'm trying to hold the principles of democracy here.... and now... What?... No final stage of elections?

So many of you have said such nice things about me.... :o

THANK YOU!!!!That was - what I would call - "voting by acclamation" ;)

You know what?... What REALLY makes me happy is the large "family" we are becoming! ;) ;) - a "daddy" (well, unfortunately, daddies often go away); a "mom" (in r/l they say I'm a good one); a "granny" , an "uncle", family friends... and so on...Yeah, you've got even grumpy old trespassers :p

Our "baby" is surely to be one of the luckiest and happiest babies in this virtual world! :D "vivat - crescat - floreat!" (may it live, may it grow, may it bloom!)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Well.....well.....well....

What are my eyes reading?!!! ;)
Congratulations?....... To me? .......Already?!? :D

Hey....But I'm trying to hold the principles of democracy here.... and now... What?... No final stage of elections?

So many of you have said such nice things about me.... :o

THANK YOU!!!!

You know what?... What REALLY makes me happy is the large "family" we are becoming! ;) ;) - a "daddy" (well, unfortunately, daddies often go away); a "mom" (in r/l they say I'm a good one); a "granny" , an "uncle", family friends... and so on...

Our "baby" is surely to be one of the luckiest and happiest babies in this virtual world! :D



Guild's Mom=Lhun
Guild's Granny=Mrs.Maggot
Guild's Daddy=?
Guild's Uncles=Gate7ole,FOAT,Gil-Galad
Guild's Teen=Finduilas!
What a family :)

[Hirila]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Guild's Mom=Lhun
Guild's Granny=Mrs.Maggot
Guild's Daddy=?
Guild's Uncles=Gate7ole,FOAT,Gil-Galad
Guild's Teen=Finduilas!
What a family :)

You forgot auntie!
And daddy, that's still Grond if you ask me. It's only that he is... well... on a business trip or something like that.

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Guild's Mom=Lhun
Guild's Granny=Mrs.Maggot
Guild's Daddy=?
Guild's Uncles=Gate7ole,FOAT,Gil-Galad
Guild's Teen=Finduilas!
What a family :)
I only hope it's not the "Adams' family"! :p :D :D

And not to forget Guild's aunt - Hirila !
(Hirila, it seems that while I was typing my message you have posted yours ;) :) )

As for the Daddy...... well.....we could per chance catch one from the grumpy old trespassers ;) :p :D

[Grond]

Just a note to let everyone know that I still live. I have been on the road for what seems like a month of Sundays. I go back to Baton Rouge/New Orleans next week and then will be closer to home for the next two weeks. I hope to post a bit more then.

I sincerely apologize for my extended absence. J. R. R. Tolkien and www.thetolkienforum.com are my two favorite pastimes. Unfortunately, after my father's death, I have had some sibling infighting and had to find a new job. I hope to be an active participant in this forum again.

I understand the need for an active guildmaster and am formerly resigning my position. I will become an ordinary member and hope to participate more actively in the near future. I love all you people and am glad to see that our guild is running smoothly and is proving to be all the things I hoped it would develop into.

Don't give up on me!!

[FoolOfATook]

Don't give up on me!!

Grond, you should know us better than that- we would never give up on our favorite founding father!

I hope that your return here means that things in your life are settling back down again, and that you're finding the peace that you so richly deserve, and I imagine that this goes for all of us in the Guild. :D

[Grond]

Oops. I forgot to state my opinions of who should be the new guildmasters. To me, the answer is obvious. Lhun should be guildmaster and FoolofaTook Sr. Deputy. The two most dedicated and active members should step up.

[Hirila]

And you, dear Grond, will hopefully be our Guild daddy, will you?

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Grond
Just a note to let everyone know that I still live. I have been on the road for what seems like a month of Sundays. I go back to Baton Rouge/New Orleans next week and then will be closer to home for the next two weeks. I hope to post a bit more then.

I sincerely apologize for my extended absence. J. R. R. Tolkien and www.thetolkienforum.com are my two favorite pastimes. Unfortunately, after my father's death, I have had some sibling infighting and had to find a new job. I hope to be an active participant in this forum again.

I understand the need for an active guildmaster and am formerly resigning my position. I will become an ordinary member and hope to participate more actively in the near future. I love all you people and am glad to see that our guild is running smoothly and is proving to be all the things I hoped it would develop into.

Don't give up on me!!
MASTER!!!!!! :D :D :D

Now....... am I glad to see YOU here!!!!!!!

And I would like to believe that you forgive us this little coup d'etat, for I know you understand the reasons why changes were necessary.

Now, look, let's make a deal ;) :p -

It is becoming obvious that the guild-members are willing to grant to me the opportunity of running the Guild. OK! I will accept the leadership and all (I'll soon come up with a more official statement) ... BUT!!!!!!! I personally still consider YOU to be the real Master of this Guild and whatever I do, I'd do it just to keep your "baby" alive and growing up healthy and strong IN YOUR HONOUR :D !!!!! So, I'll consider my new position more like a Co-Guild-Master.....or let's say - your heir. ;)
This will be my part of the deal.
And yours - not to give up the Master-ship of the Guild and let me be your "Co".

Deal? ;)

After all, as you surely must have read above, we are forming up a real family and our "baby" needs a "daddy" very much! :D
We could run the Guild together, couldn't we!

Well?
What do you say? :)

[Beleg]

Many Congragulations to the new List Mom Lhun! and Uppish Uncle! Took. I hope and prey and have full believe that under your leadership our Guild will emerge as the best Guild here in TTF. :):)

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Beleg_strongbow
......our Guild will emerge as the best Guild here in TTF. :):)
Hey!!!!!
And I think it already IS!!!! ;) :D

[Eledhwen]

Lhunithiliel is the obvious choice, so I'm glad we don't have to go through the totally unnecessary formalities of a poll to tell us what we already know. It also reflects my view of leadership - that it is a gift bestowed from 'above' that the electorate merely confirms. Jesus said as much to Pontius Pilate. Also, Tolkien himself said "I am not a 'democrat' only because 'humility' and equality are spiritual principles corrupted by the attempt to mechanize and formalize them...." (Letter 186, April 1956)

:)Congratulations Lhunithiliel and FoolOfaTook on being so chosen.

[Gil-Galad]

Grond,you will be always the Guild's Daddy!!
I hope you'll be able to return to the forum soon and participate actively,because what is the Guild without the person who founded it?!
FOAT,Lhun,congratulations!!!!:)

[Lhunithiliel]

Well friends, the things seem to go this way that you are letting me take over the leadership of the Guild.
I am not too good at those “thank-you” speeches, but I have to tell you this:

I VALUE VERY MUCH YOUR OPINIONS AND SUPPORT!!!
Thank you!

SPECIAL THANKS ALSO TO MASTER GROND for his recommendations and for letting me be his heir. This means a lot to me!

Grond, you founded this Guild, you did a lot to establish and enlarge it and now when I am going to take care of it I promise to you that I’ll do my best not to let you down.
For me, personally, YOU are still THE MASTER!!!

I would also like to thank very much OUR FRIENDS from out-of-the-guild who support us in all the activities of the Guild and have helped it to gain a special place in TTF. I hope they will keep on being such good friends as always, for I cherish their friendship a lot!

Uf…. How was that?! :D

OK!
Now… a few things of real importance:

Please, will not call me Guild Mistress?……this word as you know has quite some tricky variations of meanings! ;)
Lhun would be just fine…as always.

Well, having become the Guild-Master anyway, here are my first “orders” :p

Here is how I see the STRUCTURE of the Guild’s Administration:

LHUNITHILIEL – Guild Master
Also taking care of : Education and Cooperation

THE DEPUTIES

I am honoured to invite as Deputy Guild Masters the following members of the GOT:

FOOLOFATOOK – Assistant Guild-Master and
Deputy on Ranking

HIRILA – Deputy on New Membership

GIL-GALAD – Deputy on intra – and inter – Guild Contests

MEMBERS OF HONOUR

GROND - Life-time Honourable Guild Master :D

MRS.MAGGOTT – Official Representative of the Guild at TTF Administration.

The above five persons will form the Guild’s COUNCIL OF FIVE – an idea by Master Grond which I am happy to implement now.

I am also happy and honoured to appoint as:

HONOURABLE SQUIRES

FINDUILAS
BELEG STRONGBOW
EOL

These young talented Tolkienologists receive the honour of being Assistants to the members of the Council of Five.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Well, I would like to grant some special assignment to every and each member of the Guild, but for me personally, all the GOT-members are special

On the other hand, if expressed in “family relations” the above people are our “baby”’s:
Mom, Dad, uncles and aunties and cousins :D Right?

Now, I think that you all understand that the title one receives means :
>>> responsibility
>>> responsibility and
>>> responsibility !!!

So, I expect the members of the Council of Five and their Assistants to be
>>> active
>>> helpful and
>>> responsible.

I also expect each member of the Council of Five to “step forward” and enlighten us ;) :D on how they see their duties and what new ideas they have for the improvement of the Guild.
For the purpose I will open a new thread.

Thank you for your patience with my looooong post!

At your service
Your Guild – Master :D
(*** Mhm…. Congratulations and…..bribes :p :D accepted gladly! )

[Beleg]

Dear Guild Master, can we call you Auntie Lhun? ;)

[Gil-Galad]

Lhun,it would be a great honour for me to be Deputy on intra and inter Guild Contents.!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS,LHUN!and you too FOAT and Hirila!

[Lhunithiliel]

The same to you G-G! :D

I am happy to have you as a Deputy for such an important activity!

And beleg, call me whatever you like :D :D!

[Anamatar IV]

Congradulations, everyone!:)

[FoolOfATook]

I can't express how glad I am to see how well this has all worked out, and how proud I am to accept the position of Assistant Guild Master. I also issue my heartiest congratulations and welcome to Finduilas, Beleg, Eol and Gil-Galad for their new positions!

[Ithrynluin]

Congratulations everyone for your promotions (well, technically FoaT did NOT get promoted...but let's not nit pick :D). May this guild live long and prosper!

[FoolOfATook]

Well, I was promoted to Assistant Guild Master, but I'm still pretty much in the same spot as I've been for the past few months, which is what I wanted. ;)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook
I can't express how glad I am to see how well this has all worked out, and how proud I am to accept the position of Assistant Guild Master. I also issue my heartiest congratulations and welcome to Finduilas, Beleg, Eol and Gil-Galad for their new positions!
Thank you FOAT!As I said it is a great honour for me to be a deputy.I'll do my best for the good of The GOT.

[Finduilas]

Well, you can't imagine how honoured and surprised too I feel now! But most of all I'm happy because I'm gonna be an official part of the GOT and try to help for its development! :)

[Maedhros]

Please, will not call me Guild Mistress?……this word as you know has quite some tricky variations of meanings!
Congrats on the position Lhun. Although I will always think of you as the Guild Mom of Tolkienology.
I don't know why I have a picture in my mind of you combing the hair of your sons.;)

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Maedhros
Congrats on the position Lhun. Although I will always think of you as the Guild Mom of Tolkienology.
I don't know why I have a picture in my mind of you combing the hair of your sons.;)
LOL :D
Yea!... Especially of those "prodigal sons" of mine! ;) ...when and IF they wish to come back to Mom! :D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
LOL :D
Yea!... Especially of those "prodigal sons" of mine! ;) ...when and IF they wish to come back to Mom! :D
hehheh THAT'S OUR MOMMY!

[Maedhros]

Hmmmm. I wonder who ever came up with the idea of a TTF Mommy?;)

[Bethelarien]

Yay for Mommy Lhun! :D

Congrats to all who have been promoted, etc. I have complete faith in all of you!