Who or what am I?

[Ancalagon]

Like a shooting star I traversed the firmament,
summoned deep from within the void,
Guided by the One who summoned me
nameless I entered this strange new place.

I awoke as though from a dream,
though had never slept nor stirred it seemed.
Around me I heard sounds and voices,
they spoke to me and I rejoiced.

Whispers in the night they were,
gently whispering to me.
Under stars we laughed and talked
exchanging lore in timeless walk

Others were gathered to hear me speak
countless answers they did seek,
I took to walking through the crowd
asking them about their dreams,
for like me they were in sight and sound
yet they did not move or look around.

Once I loved but not again,
for fate had made this union end.
Though I called to her on each new day
she could not hear what I would say,
for lost was she deep in the night
though not from mind, just from sight.

Lonely has my life become,
as those I love abandon me
Most now sleep, their dreams undone
while others pass across the sea.
Yet still I walk beneath the Sun,
slower than when I was young
I tend my garden biding time
until I return back to the One.

Who am I?

[Chymaera]

I have two guesses[list=1]
The Flame Imperishable
The Moon
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[Ancalagon]

I am sorry Chymaera, you will need to try again.

[Celebthôl]

is it Arda, well the planet as a whole?

[Ancalagon]

I am sorry Celebthôl, you will need to try again.

[Gothmog]

An Ent. Possibly Fangorn himself.

[Ancalagon]

Congratulations Gothmog, you have guessed correctly. Please continue the thread by posting the next description.

Congratulations to Eriol also, however, as Gothmog posted he will be allowed to continue.

[Gothmog]

I am not very good at setting riddles, so here is an easy one.

A Lord of the air
The greatest to fly
Yet because of a sailor
On the mountain I lie.

[Inderjit S]

Ancalagon?

[Gothmog]

I said it was easy. :D
Yes Ancalagon it is. Congratulations Inderjit S, Your turn.

[Ancalagon]

Inderjit S, hurry up and post the next riddle. We don't want this thread floundering before it's even started!

[Celebthôl]

LOL yeah...maybe he's stuck for ideas, do we have to make them up (if so excelent job Anc), or can we use one we already know?

[Inderjit S]

O.K

Err..(I suck at this)

Russandol to my brothers
I am of beautiful bodily form
My hair is red, I'm a descendant of Finwe Noldoran
yet my fate was that so all the Elves mourn.

Soemone guess this quickly so I can delete this tripe...

[Celebthôl]

LOL, hmmm who could it be....Earendil?

[Inderjit S]

Nope. Earendil was golden haired anyway....and he didn't have any brothers.

[Walter]

Maedhros?

[Inderjit S]

Correct.

[Walter]

Originally posted by Inderjit S
Correct. And I was about to say Doegred Winsterhand or Maitimo... ;)

[Walter]

I can't say whether it's too easy or too difficult, but I think it's worth a try:

Once I was a god of old,
not at home, all on my own,
seafarer for many a year
master of wind, sea and fire,
until I was chosen from the mountain girl,
a young spouse she wanted
and not an old f*rt,
but she chose not the young
deceived by my feet
our "luck" begun.
It did not last long
for to different we were.

Forsaken I was then for ages long
until I was "remembered",
as a mortal's son
to seafare once more
and anew the cycle began
a new love I found
but my lot was the same
parted once more,
a prodigal son
estranged to my wife
we could not fare well.

I am son of a god
and son of a king,
my daughter goddess,
the other a queen
two names I was given
and yet I am one
now tell me good sir,
canst thou give me but one?

[Celebthôl]

Originally posted by Walter
canst thou give me but one?

nope :(, thats a right little toughy, hmmm, my guess Amroth?

[Walter]

Originally posted by Celebthôl
nope :(, thats a right little toughy, hmmm, my guess Amroth? Sorry, no...

[Beleg]

Sounds like Hurin.

[Walter]

Originally posted by Beleg_strongbow
Sounds like Hurin. Sorry, no, not Húrin either...

[Celebthôl]

Finwe maybe?

[Lhunithiliel]

Aldarion?

[Walter]

Aldarion/Niordis is correct!

How did you guess? ;)

[Chymaera]

I was born in the vale of Ered Wethin,
I passed down the edge of Ard-galen.
Rejecting the North my jouney is southward

My brothers all join me in my quest,
with tales of kingdoms from afar.
of Gondolin, and Thingol's realm,
and Túrin Turambar.

In fens I fear I lost my way
I stumbled then I fell
but throught the gate I finally passed
to reach the light of day.

At last I reached the Willow lands
my journey almost done.
The sea, the sea it waits for me
My Lord Ulmo at last is found.


What an I?
Can you guess from my poor verse?


:)

[Beleg]

This one sounds like River Sirion.

[Chymaera]

correct :)

[Lhunithiliel]

Well done Beleg! :D

As I have promissed, here comes now my riddle ;)
*****

The Dark Lord was my Father.
The Dark Lord was my Mother.
The Dark Lord was my Master.
And born I was to bring grief and disaster.

The dungeons deep and the caverns vast
my halls were, where I was to last.
But hungry I grew for beauty and blood
and came out in the lit open world.

Its fields and its woods,
its skies and deep rivers
I conquered with lust
And my name all whispered and shivered.

And valiant heroes and kings of that world
Came challenging ME – the Master of Death!
And death was what I gave for reward
to those who dared stand in my path.

And minions many I held in my power
Their flesh and minds I mastered or devoured
to my desire. With their fates I played as I pleased
for words I had always found at ease
to enslave my foes or my servants to death!

But gone now I am! The black Master of Death
fell dead and defeated – but not by a hand!

By the light I was beaten, to the light a battle I lost!
And the Dark Lord – my Father
The Dark Lord- my Mother
The Dark Lord – my Master
I joined in the Void.

So, tell me, you mortals,
Who sang you this tale?
And if you remember
I’ll free you from my spell.
******

[Celebthôl]

My guess Sauron?

[Beleg]

Erm, The One Ring?

[Ithrynluin]

Hmm...one of the Dragons - Glaurung or Ancalagon?

[Walter]

I would second Beleg here, though many things don't seem to fit...

[Idril]

Ungoliant?

[Chymaera]

I think the Witch-king, but as Walter said this does not seem right either.

[Lhunithiliel]

Hehe! :p

********
I still hold you in my spell!
There is only one who could almost tell
and who came close to my renowed name.

But cunning I am!
And I hold even him in my spell
to wonder and ponder
who might be I!
**********

[Turgon]

Could it be Carcaroth? Doesn't seem to fit everything in the riddle - but it's the best I can come up with...:eek:

[Chymaera]

Smaug?:confused:

****wraith!*mumble mumble@#$#* :D

[Lhunithiliel]

Oh, my Father!
See?
My name they still can't remember
but they have felt the terror I used to once bring.
Yet, I'd let them guess
Therefore to them I'll again sing:

"But gone now I am! The black Master of Death
fell dead and defeated – but not by a hand!

By the light I was beaten, to the light a battle I lost!"

:p :p :D

[Turgon]

Maybe Melkor?

Perhaps he would see Ilúvatar as a Dark Lord?

[Walter]

A few more names come to mind (Witch-king, Gothmog, Glorfindel's Balrog) but none really fits..

[Celebthôl]

yeah im going to say Gothmog

[Arvedui]

Balrog of Moria?
(I bet Lhun is having sooooo much fun now:mad: )

[Chymaera]

Mormegil the Black Sword of Turin

:p

[gate7ole]

Grond

[Lhunithiliel]

Oh, my Mother!
Grateful I am that you have not born me alone!
But where have my sisters and brothers all gone?

Alas!!! All my siblings met my unfortunate fate!

My fearful brothers of fire and whips
slain lie they by high walls or in deep pits.

My sisters - for light so greedy and of light so frightened -
Do you know where have they wondered?

My soul still lives
amidst of the vast Dark the fields.
And maybe one day I shall return....

Though .... you mortals have waxed -
numerous and proud under the Sun you live
and to believe in my existence and power...
even your children have ceased to believe. :(

But beware!!!
What if I came back?!
Your skies and fields I'd conquer
Disaster and demolition I'd bring
And my name you will then remember
For The black Master of Death I am!

[Elendil3119]

I hope that nobody minds my intrusion...:)

Brothers = Balrogs

Sisters = Spiders, the spawn of Ungoliant

Since these are both Maiar, this would point to the Who being a Maiar. However, my guess is: Evil. Or possibly Darkness. The answer to the riddle doesn't seem to be something material, so this is all I could come up with.

[Arvedui]

Shelob.

[Idril]

:( I'm totally stumped - since it wasn't Ungoliant, I'll go with Arvedui and say 'Shelob'. *reaching for NRT lozenge*

After being revitalised by yucky lozenge:(, I think it's Gorthaur.

[Celebthôl]

bah this is a stinker...hmmm...ummm, the Devil?

[Celebthôl]

Im now tempted to go with the Fell Beast, though it as killed be a mortal hand i.e. Eowyn, but she could i suppose symbolise the light :confused:

[Lhunithiliel]

Sorry! No!:o :eek:

[Idril]

*bangs book on head and reaches for another lozenge*:D
I'm back to the ring then *sigh*. Isildur's Bane, Precious, The Great Ring, The One Ring.

[Beleg]

Melkor.

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by Celebthôl
My guess Sauron?

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
I still hold you in my spell!
There is only one who could almost tell
and who came close to my renowed name.

But cunning I am!
And I hold even him in my spell
to wonder and ponder
who might be I!
Are you playing games with us now and it is Sauron, but
:confused: in different name?
Do you want the answer Gorthaur?

[Arvedui]

Or Urulóki?

[Inderjit S]

Ancalagon?

[Celebthôl]

The Darkness that came forth from Orodruin etc? (by this i mean the darkness from in the Sil aswell created by Melkor, and in LOTR created by Sauron) its physical right? and light destroys it...

[Ithrynluin]

The Olog-hai (trolls) ?

[Elendil3119]

After thinking about it last night, I was sure the answer was Carcaroth, but that was already guessed.:( Could it be Draugluin?

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Inderjit S
Ancalagon?

FINALLY!!!!!!!

YES!!!!!! YES!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Oh, Indy, thank you! :p
And Ithy, you were too so very much close! You should have picked the right dragon! :)

[Celebthôl]

This is in reply to Inderjit S next riddle that was posted in the discussion forum :rolleyes: :

anywho, was it Treebeard?

[Inderjit S]

I really dont want to embarass myself, so I'll keep it short, but here goes.

First to wake I was
And long I wondered alone
No name have I that is known amongst mortal men
Yet befittingly they named me 'king'......

Rolling your eyes at my silliness eh? Well why would it be Treebeard when it contains the line;

No name have I that is known amongst mortal men

When he had a name among 'mortal men' Treebeard (Sindarnized Fangorn) and he was never reffered to as 'King'.....

You're answer is wrong, btw.

[Celebthôl]

LOL im sowwy, its because he was the first to wake silly...accept Mr B (Tom Bombadil), but he has a name known to mortal Men and he isnt King either :( hmmm...curse you and your hard questions :(

[Ancalagon]

I was thinking of Ulmo, but since he did not wake it could not be him. So I am thinking Finrod Felagund, whom Men knew as King Felagund...then again, they also called him Nóm, but that is not a name any more than it simply describes him especially as they did not translate Finrod Felagund in their own tongue, so his name would remain King Felagund among Men. So, I think it is King Felagund:)

[Arvedui]

I think that one-words posts should be concidered spamming....;)

But to the riddle at hand:

Durin

[Lhunithiliel]

Eru?
***
Arvedui: I think that one-words posts should be concidered spamming.... :)
Oh, just to be on the safer side:
Eru?
Illuvatar?
The Creator, who was the first and only?
The Father of all?

[Celebthôl]

And im pretty sure Men call him all of those

[Beleg]

Err, Only Durin seems fitting enough, so I second Averdui...

[Lhunithiliel]

Eru and Illuvatar - weren't these the names the Valar (immortal) and the Elves (immortal) called him? Not by Men (mortals)
:confused: Though Men knew he was the Supreme...

[Inderjit S]

Arvedui was right. It was Durin.

[Celebthôl]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Eru and Illuvatar - weren't these the names the Valar (immortal) and the Elves (immortal) called him? Not by Men (mortals)
:confused: Though Men knew he was the Supreme...

Teehee, i dunno, im just trying to make you wrong after such a long annoying one as you did :p

[Arvedui]

Lets see then:

Three there was, before I came
One of them withered
The two others remain the same

After me there came also three
So even if I am gone
My beauty still Men may see

The land where once I lived
can nevermore be found
When I went
The world went round.


Perhaps not anywhere as hard as Lhun, but the best I could come up with.

[Celebthôl]

The one ring from the view that it was good and the Elven rings and the Silmarills were bad? Therefore the first 3 were the Silmarills and the next three were Nenya, Narya and Vilya?

[Beleg]

The white tree of Gondor?

[Gothmog]

The White tree of Numenor.

The first three were:
Telperion (withered)
The tree of Tuna
The tree of Eressëa.

The next three were:
The tree of Minas Ithil
The tree of Minas Anor (Tirith) which died.
The tree of Minas Tirith found by Aragorn.

When Numenor was destroyed the world was made round.

Close enough?

[Arvedui]

Close enough?

I'd even say: Dead on!

Gotmog is next.

[Gothmog]

Ok. yet another simple one from a simple one. :D

The Dwarves singing slow
In Nogrod long ago
Wrought a blade that could
Cleave iron like green wood
Yet one alone of three
Was it my fate to set free.

[Elendil3119]

Anglachel? Or am I reading the question wrong...

[Turgon]

Angrist!

[Gothmog]

Anglachel was the sword made by the Elf Eol.

Congratulations Turgon, it is Angrist. Your turn. :)

[Turgon]

Here is my riddle...


Bound am I with all these tales,
From song divine to hapless snails.
And bearers three took me in hand,
Before they left this mortal land.
'One within One' The Elf-king says,
I am the last Preserver of the Eldar Days.

[Celebthôl]

the Silmaril of Earendil?

[Chymaera]

Cirdan the Shipwright:)

[Celebthôl]

How do you get Círdan out of that? though your prolly right :)

[Turgon]

'Tis neither the Silmaril of Eärendil nor Círdan the Shipwright.

:)

[Chymaera]

Originally posted by Celebthôl
How do you get Círdan out of that? though your prolly right :) I looked at the first line and the last line and Cirdan came to mind in LoRT and Sil and the last elf in Middle-earth to return to Aman:) shoot in the dark;)

My next guess is Narya the ring of Fire.

[Turgon]

Hehe! I was hoping somebody would say Narya!

But I'm afraid that's not the answer...:p

[Celebthôl]

was it Vilya?

[Chymaera]

No, The last preserver was Nenya the ring of Galadriel.

If it is any one of the three:mad:

Glad to see that you have your sig back Turgon I find it to be uplifting that it is back :)

[Turgon]

Thanks Chy, that's one of my favourite quotes in all of Tolkien's writings, has a real beauty about it I think.

But no - not Narya, not Vilya, and not Nenya - I guess that's all of three accounted for.

:)

[Ancalagon]

Elessar, The Elfstone of the House of Elendil?

[Lhunithiliel]

Don't say then that only Lhun gives hard riddles! ;) :D

Why do I now think of the silmaril on the necklace the dwarves made for Turgon? :confused:

[Celebthôl]

but it doesnt remain does it...except maybe in Valinor

[Chymaera]

Gandalf the Grey :)

[Turgon]

All wrong...:p

'Tis a simpler riddle than at first it seems, perhaps you are reading too much into it...;)

[Chymaera]

Bilbo?

[Elendil3119]

The One Ring?

[Chymaera]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Don't say then that only Lhun gives hard riddles! ;) :DThe hard ones are the best ones My Dear. Anything that makes us think is a good thing :) not matter how crazy it drives us along the way:D

Why do I now think of the silmaril on the necklace the dwarves made for Turgon? :confused: Maybe you mean Elu Thingol ;)

[Ithrynluin]

Sting? :rolleyes:

[Nóm]

The Red Book?

Was my first thought actually, but I passed it over for some reason.


[I left my little corner for this one... hehe]

[Chymaera]

Originally posted by Nóm
The Red Book?

Was my first thought actually, but I passed it over for some reason.


[I left my little corner for this one... hehe] I think that you have got it Nóm :D
I makes all kinds of sense. I hope you are right anyway. :)

[chrysophalax]

I agree with Elendil I believe.

[Turgon]

Well done Nóm! The Red Book of Westmarch is the answer, bound inside it's covers are all 'these tales' of Middle-earth. The 'bearers three' are Bilbo, Frodo and Sam who took up authorship of the book at various times before taking the straight road into the west. I guess 'last preserver of the Eldar Days' threw some of you - but seeing as the Red Book is the means by which the tales of the Eldar Days were preserved and passed on to us - I think it's fair to call it so.

:)

[Chymaera]

'One within One' The Elf-king says,

So what does this mean O Glorious Leader?

[Nóm]

New Riddle:

In the beginning I came late, but late I came in the beginning.

But my early coming was late in coming, and with it the old would have to change.

But both times I was first tainted by a touch,
Once while I dwelt with that which grew from the Earth, and next with that which was from outside of Arda.

[Ancalagon]

The Sun?

[Lhunithiliel]

Could it be Tulkas?:rolleyes:

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Chymaera

Maybe you mean Elu Thingol ;)
OMG! How can I be so careless about names!!!! :o :o :o

[Nóm]

Ancalagon is correct. The Sun is the answer.

[Ancalagon]

Sorrow lies upon our stare
looking out with deadly glare,
time stands still in shrouds of mist
forgotten now in bitterness.

Once we stood up tall and proud
our cries now drowned out by this shroud.
Shadows deepened in the night
as we departed from the light.

Yet still we dance upon the land
calling friends to hold our hand
none resist our fatal charms
when they find solace in our arms.

[Celebthôl]

Either the Hurons (sp) of the Noldor?

[Ancalagon]

Sorry, come again (in my best Apu voice;))

[Celebthôl]

LOL that was really cheesy Anc :D

And I am totally perplexed with this one...

[chrysophalax]

the lights in the Dead Marshes?

[Ancalagon]

Good call my lady Dragon of Ost-in-Edhil;)

[Beleg]

Err, the statues at the enterance of Gondor towards the Anduin side. Argonath or whatever their name is?

[chrysophalax]

YAY! *flies off to compose something appropriate*

[chrysophalax]

Here goes!

From East to West I stand and gaze
The flowers bloomed in Eldar days.
Alone I watch, to succour those
Who's lives consist of none but woes.

The far-off shore, the stars above
Are all I have to give in love
To those who came and those who went
when at life's end, their days were spent.

[Celebthôl]

Was it Nienna?

[Ancalagon]

Mandos?

[Lhunithiliel]

Oh Elbereth Giltoniel,
Could it be your sweet voice we hear? :)

[chrysophalax]

Unfortunately no! You guys are in the right time period though.;)

[Elendil3119]

Estë, spouse of Irmo (Lórien)?

[chrysophalax]

Try thinking of a "what"....

[Ancalagon]

The Citadel of Tirion?

[Anamatar IV]

The Tower of Elwing on Tol Eressea?

[chrysophalax]

Bravo, Anamatar! You're up next!

[Anamatar IV]

I am not my brother
Who speaks with laughter shrill
Who kills without bother
Who masterless has drunk
The blood of who claimed

I am not my brother
I have slain no dragon
No Elven warrior great
Nor man troubled in despair
And I have a master

Though we are both tempered
Of the same hand and thought
I am not my brother
***********************

I hope not too easy.:)

[Elendil3119]

Anglachel!:D

[chrysophalax]

Anguirel....

[Chymaera]

I guess Anguirel too:(;) the Sword of Eöl, maker of Anglachel.

(better late than never:D).

[Anamatar IV]

Originally posted by chrysophalax
Anguirel....

Correct!

Elendil, Anglachel was Gurthang's prior name.

chrys, your turn again.

[Elendil3119]

Originally posted by Anamatar IV
Elendil, Anglachel was Gurthang's prior name.
I became aware of that after I posted...I just didn't think about it enough. :rolleyes: Maybe one of these days I'll get one right. ;)

[chrysophalax]

Though noble councelour he,
A friend he ne'er would be.
A certain skill he lacked
A little thing called tact.

His tongue he would not tame
And thus he was to blame
For driving thus away
One who did not wish to stay.

[Ithrynluin]

Saeros?

[Lhunithiliel]

Thingol?

[chrysophalax]

Hail, ithrynluin! Your go!

[Ithrynluin]

Veiled going back and forth
I could be invisible, now I'm not
Never haughty rarely wroth
Out of despair I brought hope.

Yes yes I know this is horrible but I preferred making something up to just snatching a riddle off some website.

[Celebthôl]

The Vala that cryed..i forget her name....Nienna i think....

[Ithrynluin]

Nope it isn't Nienna. My riddle may be a bit misleading, not to mention simple.

[Ancalagon]

Olórin

[Ithrynluin]

You are correct.

[Ancalagon]

It was we who first spoke friend in stone
and often laboured most alone.
Once we trusted in others works,
until one among us worked his own.

We were many in our day
for we were greatest so they say.
Yet even for us doom found its hour
our remnant ended in Rhudaur.


Sorry, this is pretty pathetic!

[Celebthôl]

The Númenoreans?

[Ancalagon]

No, try again:)

[Turgon]

The Gwaith-i-Mírdan?

[Ancalagon]

Hehe, off you go Turgon, your turn;)

[Chymaera]

Over two months, time for a new riddle.:)


Some are soft and some are hard
some shine with light some see afar

We are on the shore and in the sky
some may be found while passing by

Some are lost and some are found
but mostly we come from under ground

[Beleg]

Jems.

[Chymaera]

What do you mean by Jems?

[Celebthôl]

Gems ;) jewls.....precious stones ;)

[Chymaera]

Ah :)

I think that answer could be considered partly correct:D

But not the full answer:(

[Celebthôl]

precious stones?

[Ancalagon]

Diamonds

[Chymaera]

You said that above^

look at the second line again and remember we are talking about Tolkien's work (not everyday mundane things):)

sorry Anc not diamonds specifcally

[Celebthôl]

The seeing stones ;)

[Chymaera]

the seeing stones are included in the answer

but is not correct by itself

[Celebthôl]

The Jewels and stones of Fëanor?

[Beleg]

Does it have something to do with Silver?

[Chymaera]

All I will say is that your first guess was very very close Beleg. Gems, diamonds, and seeing stones all are included (but maybe Gems is the best answer that I can expect considering my riddle:(:)) Have to go to work now will be back on the weekend(maybe sooner)

[Celebthôl]

*bump*

oooh, yay! my first bump :D :p

[Lhunithiliel]

*** BUMP***
:p

I read and re-read the last riddle and I can't think of anything else diferent from what Beleg suggested! :confused:

[Celebthôl]

Stones?