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Walter
05-12-2003, 11:22 AM
This is going to be the thread to store ideas for topics that would be worth research, discussion or debate.

Chymaera
06-30-2003, 02:07 PM
Maybe we should define and explore
"What is Canon?"

That should fill the think tank up:D

Ancalagon
06-30-2003, 05:24 PM
I have an excellent (well, at least I think it is:)) topic for debate that I think is pretty good for the Guild, though I will not post it until I return from España as I have no literature to quote...ole!

Ancalagon
06-30-2003, 05:41 PM
Actually, I have just thought of a second, equally wonderful topic for us to discuss, which I will of course wow you with shortly!!!

´Note to self - round!

Walter
06-30-2003, 06:10 PM
Doug, you know that the whole "Canon" bullsh ... errrm ... issue is sort of a a red towel for me? ;)

I do consider everything that Tolkien has ever written as equally worth to be considered...

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Ray, we are waiting with "bated breath".... ;)

Chymaera
07-01-2003, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Walter
Doug, you know that the whole "Canon" bullsh ... errrm ... issue is sort of a a red towel for me? ;)

I do consider everything that Tolkien has ever written as equally worth to be considered...

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No, I did not know that you felt that way.
Of course everything that he wrote was of worth, but Tolkien liked to rewrite his stories and contradiction crept in.

Myself I always took the stuff I liked and made sense to me and kind of ignored the contradiction.
The best example was the Flat-earth/Round-earth thing. The world was flat till the Fall of Númenor and then the Valar change the world into a Round world. That is how I look at it.:)

Walter
07-01-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Chymaera
No, I did not know that you felt that way.
Of course everything that he wrote was of worth, but Tolkien liked to rewrite his stories and contradiction crept in.

Myself I always took the stuff I liked and made sense to me and kind of ignored the contradiction.
The best example was the Flat-earth/Round-earth thing. The world was flat till the Fall of Númenor and then the Valar change the world into a Round world. That is how I look at it.:) Good example!

Now IMO the "Canon-issue" appears to me like declaring one as "false" and the other as "true", regarding to your example (and exaggerating some): Since the world cannot be both it has to be either flat or round, eventually it's got to be round, hence the "Canonists" ;) disregard all that has been said about a flat world...

Ancalagon
07-01-2003, 03:17 PM
See, my note to self has prompted you Chymaera, as that was one of the questions I was going to pose for the Guild!!! However, since you have cast it open, I think you ought to complete it,)

Flat vs Round!!!???