Senate of Atannórë

[Dain Ironfoot]

I Am outraged. Cir you act out of fear, fear that Ellessar will rise again. He is right now getting allies for that war you will sart out of fear, fear that me, and others like me wil make allies w/ Ellessar. I read a lot of posts, But this takes the cake! 3 fleets to block his army.... BS!!

I will send 5,000 men to ellessar to build, man, and fight in Warboats. These are 5,000 of my finest men, sturdy and good on water. I also will add that your cowardly dicriminating(sp) acts will be pain in full for......

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Calm thyself, friend. Let Ciryaher hear our words before we set blood to the sea.

[Ecthelion]

I aslo shall aid Elleser and send 2,000 of my men to help protect.

[Ciryaher]

I shall withdraw my 1st and 2nd fleets from your waters, but the 4th shall remain. All vessels suspected of carrying tools of warfare shall be searched and inspected before leaving or entering.

Dain and Nain, you were not summoned. Be silent or leave.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

This still as bad as the first, you have no jurisdiction there and cannot control what I send and do not send. Do you have no faith in lord Goroth, who's docks I will have to use? Or do you just not want me to help one who could be an enimy one soon day

[Ciryaher]

Say not that I don't trust you or Dengen, but more than just Dengen-Goroth's trade goes through Umbar. I wouldn't want anyone hiding their armies or weapons on Himling without your knowledge...

[Arathin]

What rights do you have in our waters, Cir? I don't see how you can do this without crossing into our territory.

[Ciryaher]

You haven't claimed your Territorial waters. Mine are at 50 leagues from shore, perhaps yours are the same?

I shall move my fleet to 50 leagues, but all suspicious or enemy vessels will be searched if it is deemed neccessary.

[Arathin]

Who will deem it necessary if your not there?

[Ciryaher]

My more-than-able captains and admirals know what to look for. As long as the ships make no trouble, all will go smoothly.

[Arathin]

What trouble would we make? We only trade for supplys for the building of our island.

[Ciryaher]

Ahh, so you say. How do *I* know that?

But, I shall certainly lift the screen around your island, Elessar, if I feel confident that things are well. I shouldn't expect the partial blockade to last over a week.

[Arathin]

Oh Cir why did you comment to Elessar, if you are talking to me? I know that I won't last that long, but I still don't see any reason to it in the first place. Explain it please, and I will be quiet.

[Ciryaher]

No particular reason, actually. My initial purpose was to drill for an attack from you, but I don't think that is much of a possibility anymore.

My fleet will carry out some routine manuevers, then leave.

[Lorien]

cure for 7doubles anyone?

[Arathin]

Ciryaher do I have this correct? You put a blockade on Himling to try and get me and Elessar to attack you. So that there could be a war, but you could blame it all on Elessar. Is that right?

Lorien what kinda cure? If it involves 7doubles death I am in.

[Ciryaher]

No, my intentions weren't to arouse your might...*cough*....but rather to prepare my men for action in case a conflict were to arise.

Attention! A Proclaimation of the utmost importance shall be delivered within the next day or so. Be prepared.

[Arathin]

Ciryaher do you doubt the power of Himling with that cough? We are mightier than you may well think. And anyway why would your men have any need of being prepared? We made no call for war on you.

[Lorien]

Arathin i didn't mean killing him..i just asked if anyone had any other not so violent ideas....

[Arathin]

Oh...ok. How about...humiliating him in a battle that he has no chance of winning because he has no army, land, or allies?

[Lorien]

i don't think he'll fight.....:D especially after you've listed all his weaknesses.....

[Arathin]

See I just humiliated him because he has a big mouth and no power, armies, land, or allies to back it up. This is what makes him worse than Cir. At least Cir has power to back up his threats. 7doubles has nothing to back up his threats. Even the people he calls allies hate him!

[Lorien]

Cir's a nice chap....:D :) ;) (note this is for making a mr.Cirhayer very happy)

[Eomer Dinmention]

OK Ellesar and Arathin just leave it. It will be over in a week. Cir will take his fleet back. If not then Cir really wants to start a war.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

First, nothing goes on in my lands that I or Arathin do not know of, watch yourself, CIryaher. You tread a thin line. I urge you to post whatever proclimation you have as soon as possible, I need to know whether or not to send my sword to be polished.

[Lorien]

remember lennon/mcartney....let it be let it be....
what eomer said is right.if Cir has any plans he'd stay longer than necessary.Elessar you saying things like sowrd-polishing etc. isn't really soothing or calming unless of course you want the war to happen

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Polished swords serve only as an ornimant for peace. If I epected war I would not send it to be polished. Plus- I am always ready for, but never in support of, war.

[Arathin]

Has anyone else noticed that I am agreeing with the Necromancers a lot lately?

What Lorien says is true. We should all just let this alone. If the blockade or whatever we're calling it now stays up more than a week, then there will be hell to pay. If not, then let peace reign.

[Ciryaher]

Men, Elves, Dwarves, Hobbits, Ainur, and all other beings...Hail!

The Realms of Gondor and Arnor have deliberated, and after much decision, we have concluded that the power of the Edain would be increased greatly by a union between the two greatest realms of Men. Our councils and policies are basically identical.

Therefore--on behalf of myself, the Emperess Kementari, King Mike B, and Queen Chippy--I am announcing that the realms of Gondor and Arnor shall henceforth be united under a Senate. Each former province will retain it's provincial status, and governors shall represent each in the Senate. Mike and I shall serve as the Proconsuls of this body, representing the collective nations of Gondor and Arnor (respectively).

The Senate shall be comprised thusly:

Arnor - Ciryaher
Arthedain - Kementari
Cardolan - Mithrandir
Rhudaur - Aerin
Rivendell - Aredhel
Angmar - Naz
Mithlond - Morwen (still undecided)

The Senators from Gondor shall be posted by King Mike B.

[Mithrandir]

I am in full agreement w/ this. Wise desicion. I am ready whenever you are for the senate business or what not. And I am very honored to be apart of this, thank you.
~Mithers

[Ciryaher]

Your support is honored and appreciated, Mithrandir.

I am also planning the construction of a great cathedral, a shrine to the Valar. I would like to propose that the Istari remove their Council Chambers to this new temple. There is to be a great library, meditation and study chambers, and the main hall itself.

It is the wish of the Imperium of Arnor to bring about a new era of art and science to the land. This cathedral shall be the focus of the 'beautification' of all of Arnor's cities. The thoughts of all Senators and guests are highly welcome, as are suggestions and ideas.

[Arathin]

Would 'guest' include or disclude the Lord and Lady of Himling, Ciryaher?

[Eomer Dinmention]

WHere is Mike i haven't seen him for a while now.

So the White council is leaving Rohan???

If so i wish to hold the Silver Wizards at Rohan where they belong

[Lorien]

This is a great idea. Kudos to Cir and Mike for thinking of it.

[Ciryaher]

The thoughts of the Lord and Lady of Himling are welcome, of course.

King Eomer, I was referring to the White Council when I made my invitation. I should think that it has nothing to do with the individual guilds themselves.

[Beorn]

Gondor - Beorn & Chippy
Minas Tirith - Beorn
Lebennin? - Chippy
Ithilien - Talierin
Belfelas - Grond

Two more are likely to come. Anyone wishing to fill the last two spots (who don't have a kingdom already) should contact me.

[Lorien]

Um...i just noticed something and i want to clarify it. Didn't Naz like move to Rhun and leave Angmar to me?

[¤-Elessar-¤]

*glowers

Well, if it must be than it must be. However, If this is a senate of Arnor and Gondor, than I will expect to see more of Mike, and a little less of yourself. Lets see now...I count a good three friends of myself in the proposed senate, but I must ask you, whereupon do the halflings fall?

Ciryaher, you mentioned a new era of science and Art. And in this you have my full cooperation.

[Mithrandir]

As leader of the White Council and Grand Master over all Wizards I accept your grand invitation Lord Ciryaher. It would be my honor to relocate the White Council to this new location, please inform me when it is rebuilt and we may "move in". I thank you very much for this opportunity.
~Mithers

[Ciryaher]

*raises a finger* Ah, I forgot all too easily. The Halflings shall have their representative send me a message and I shall add that name to the list of Arnorian Senators. Excellent choices on the part of King Mike.

*sidelong to Elessar* This Senate is not here to please you, Elessar. On a personal note, I don't care whether or not you have ANY friends on the Senate, and you shall CERTAINLY see as much as or more of me than you have before.

*turns to Lorien* If Naz prefers you to take his place in the Senate, do inform me. I was not sure to what extent he was switching control of his various precincts.

[Aerin]

I thank you for my position in the Senate, Lord Ciryaher.
I am glad that all the races and countries will have a say in matters.

Elessar, if you have forgotten, Ciryaher is the Emperor of the largest, and therefore most powerful, country in Middle Earth. Your threats and demands seem ineffectual against such a ruler.

I think the decision of combining Arnor and Gondor was a wise choice.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

* A lightfooted messenger runs into the room and up to lord ciryaher.
He tells him that a small boat passed their sentries this morning, it sped right up to their line, but when it seemed the boat must stop it raised itself right over the Arnorian Sips, and they did not give chase.

[Dengen-Goroth]

Hail Senate of the West! May I stay for time and observe this great congrigation. I add my congratulations to this most golrious of mergers!

[Dain Ironfoot]

I dain rep. Freemen, Yellow Wizards, Ironhills, Lonley mountain, White mountains, and Grey mountains. I also congraduate(sp) you on the merger.

[Ecthelion]

I represent The Lonely Mountain now Dad........
But I to congratulate you guys on the merger.

[Ciryaher]

*turns to the messenger with cold eyes*

For Himling's sake, you had better be lying or delusional.

[Arathin]

Why would he be delusional? (I don't think I am really here at the moment, but can't be sure. Where ever Elessar is, I am. Just leave it at that.)

[Ciryaher]

Ahh! Greetings Dengen-Goroth of Barad Gostannen! Tis a great pleasure to me for you to be present in my homeland!

*bows to Dengen*

[Arathin]

I repeat why would your messenger boy be delusional?

[Ciryaher]

*turns his eyes to Arathin*

Because if I find out that a ship has broken out of the blockade without being inspected, I shall order some of my ships to hunt it down and sink her.

[Lorien]

Cirhayer~I'll get that cleared up infact i already pm'ed Naz, once he ever gets around to reading it we'll know...

[Eomer Dinmention]

OK Cir. Thats good then the individual guilds of wizards will stay in Rohan.
The white Council will be in Arnor. That fine i wouldn't mind having a look at your empire

[¤-Elessar-¤]

The messenger goes on to report that the shiphad gone by so fast that they had not got a good look at it, and that it was faster than their fastest could catch, even on a good day.

[Beorn]

And now I announce the other two Senators:

Valar will be the senator for the Northern Borderlands. This is due to their ties with Rohan.

Greymantle shall be the senator of the Waterways and Shorelines. This includes ports and everything to do with water travel.

[Valar]

*Valar walks in and bows to Mike and cir and the other lords present. He goes and take a seat next to Eomer and speaks to everyone*
"Thankyou for my oppionment Lord Mike, but would also like to prononce to the senate that if war breaks out and Arnor and Gondor take different sides to Rohan, i shall resign my postition for i am eteranlly alleiged to Rohan."

[Mithrandir]

"I do not believe you need to worry about that Valar, there are no intentions to side against Rohan here. And if you check my sig. I as well am allieged to Rohan:D No Worries"

[Arathin]

You guys are so political minded. *giggles* Politisons never do well on the battlefield. *giggles again to herself. But upon see the stares it gets her, she states, "Not that I want war! I was just commenting!

[Dengen-Goroth]

Nay, the honour is mine Lord Ciryaher! I am mirthful to be allowed to remain!

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Ok, I have had little to no input on the part of My Lineage, and I was fearful that those who would challenge it do no longer read my Jouries thread. If you have not, and wish to, I suggest you do so.

[Arathin]

I make no complaint, and with good reason. If you read it and remember MY lineage.

And what do you mean, 'to no'? I posted at least! Do I not count!?!

[Ciryaher]

Your lineage proclaiming to be of Noldo descent (and worse, a son of Feanor) does not amaze or impress me; although I truly doubt you care of such thoughts. I will say nothing off-color as to my further thoughts on that matter...

*turns to this new messenger*
Very well. I doubt that this vessel carries anything worth attacking anyone for, but it shall not happen again. Let it be known that I shall now order my captains to open fire on any ship that attempts to pass by or over the blockade (without inspection) that does not have the explicit permission of the Senate to do so. I shall send back the other two fleets to assist. If there are no further infringements, I will dismiss the blockade. If there are further infringements, things will not go well for Himling and her people.

*bows to Valar*
It is most excellent to recieve another wise Senator from Gondor!

*smiles at Dengen*
Why should you not be allowed to be here, friend and ally?

[Arathin]

*giggles to herself* Ciryaher has a big head and a big fist, but sometimes I wonder which is bigger. *No offence meant Cir*

[Ciryaher]

*stares coldly at Arathin*

This is not the place for childish words, Lady of Himling. I suggest you consider your words more carefully in these times of tension.

[Arathin]

Oh forgive me, Lord Ciryaher. I will think next time I speak. Although you should not reply to things in the heat of anger either. *smiles across at him innocently* I think I should go and look in on Elessar. *quickly gets up to leave*

[Eomer Dinmention]

*Eomer turns to Valar. "So my captain has gained some land well done Senate Valar. So what will you do. Live in Gondor or Rohan lol"

[Valar]

*Smiling at his king*
"Oh most definatly Rohan my friend.lol"

[Dengen-Goroth]

Indeed you are Correct my friend. No reason whatsoever. I suggest a great road be built connectng west and east as token of eternal peace.

[Dain Ironfoot]

And to the North, To the Iron Hills.bvu

[Cygnus]

*coughs* I agree with the Dengen.

[Dain Ironfoot]

yes, good idea!

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Fine then, have it your way.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

A messenger from the third fleet arrives the next day, he tells Ciryaher of most of the events that had happened in the Journies of Elessar II, and asks him what he is to reply to the steward of Himling.

[Ciryaher]

*looks at the messenger*

What does the Lord of Himling want me to reply to? Send him nothing. He can look out to sea for himself if he wishes to know something.

[Arathin]

(The Lord of Himling and I are not in Himling! Try reading The Journies of Elessar II!!!)

[¤-Elessar-¤]

"But lord"
*the messenger flinched
"The Lord of Himling, Elessar II, passed our inspection post a few days ago, the morning after the strange ship...flew...over us. It is the steward who makes this request.

[Ciryaher]

What matter is it to the steward? If he can sit on Himling and behave himself, I shall have no problems with him and will have no need to send in my fleets--all of which are fully loaded with infantry and siege engines. I don't plan on needing them, since I am sure Himling and her Steward are quite sane and won't try to foolishly break the blockade.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Ciryaher had to wait for a reply to that harsh statement, for the heated face of Elessar sat at his Palantir, awaiting Ciryaher's gaze into his own.

[Ciryaher]

*Ciryaher lifts his Palantir off an onyx dais and looks into it*

Speak.

[Eomer Dinmention]

*Very Well Valar"

When will the White Council be moved to Arnor i wouldn't mind having a look at the empire

[¤-Elessar-¤]

*Elessar's face lights up the palantir
Lord Ciryaher, Arathin's birds have carried word that fleets of ships were once again surrounding Himling, I have also seen such through my stone. I demand to know on what grouds this act was done, for none of our people have broken the rules you have laid us under.

[Ciryaher]

*speaks through the stone*

Yes, 3 fleets are indeed surrounding Himling. This was originally a precaution following a hunch, but as long as you allow more ships to break through--or rather, attempt to--there will be no further problems and I will recall the fleet. I need not tell you WHY I am leaving my fleet around your island beyond the fact that I want to make sure you know how to behave. They will remain there until I decide it is time for them to come home.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Elessar speaks.
And you continue to speak of things I do not know. No one has broken through, or attempted to break through your little blockade. I dare say you should be ashamed to think me so stupid as to try.

-A warning for the wise, any fleet seen blockading Himling that was not a part of our original agreement will vanish in the fog of the morning.-

The Palantir goes black.

[Cygnus]

Hello members of the Arnorian/Gondorian Council. I will be taking a leave of a week or 2. Lorien will be my replacement until i return.

~Naz

[Ciryaher]

*slams the Palantir back onto its dais and rubs his temples*

My messenger tells me a ship breaks through the blockade, yet Elessar tells me nothing such has occurred. I daresay he should be ashamed to presume he has any power rivaling mine in any aspect save ignorance.

*broods darkly for a moment*

Very good, Naz. Lorien shall take your place in the Senate for the time being...We will eagerly await your return.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

what Ciryaher didn't know is that Elessar was much more tallented at using the Palantir than he was, and that Elessar held constant vigil over his councils, an unseen eye hung ever in the air.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

A messenger with the sign of the Arnorian Armada came to the feet of Ciryaher's throne early the next afternoon. He looked as though he had rode long and hard, after a good days work of rowing a boat to the shore. He placed a scroll at the feet of lord Ciryaher, stood from his knees, bowed, and resigned himself to the outer chambers, waiting in the case of a reply to the letter.

----------------------------------------------------
Emporer Ciryaher
Upon inspection this morn one of my men made a startaling find, neither the second or third fleets could be seen. I sent ships around for the good first half of the morning, even sending light signals into the fog. However, when the sea fog left, and we could see for miles and miles, no sign of the missing fleets were seen. Did you call them back last eve, or should I continue my search?

In all do honor-
Admiral of the Arnorian Armada.
--------------------------------------------
Ciryaher stood and addressed the awaiting hall.

[Mithrandir]

"wait my Lord before you continue. You should no Elessar that you could never hide your eye from my vision. Begone from here befor eI use force, I bright light ignites the room, and the eye of Elessar is gone. I am sorry mr friend but I can not let you spy on the council.

Please go ahead Ciryaher......"

[Ciryaher]

As second proconsul of Atannórë, I call the Senate to the status of War Council. The words of Elessar have been seen by all, and he has threatened us with what has indeed just happened. I motion that he be brought to these halls to testify *voice rises to a roar* NOW!

[Beorn]

War in it's worst form and manifestations shall come to you Elessar. You have gone too far, and we have tolerated your insolence for long enough.

All of Gondor' armies have been preparing for such a day, a day when war is at hand. Now, 4000 troops issue forth from Minas Tirith, (rmed as in RP Profile), and make their way to Himling.

Boats have been readied too, so they shall not have trouble making their attack. All the boats are equipped with magnificent cannons that can hurtle balls of iron hundreds of feet into the air without trouble, and further if need be.

[Ciryaher]

*rises and points his sceptre*

As proconsuls of Atannórë, Beorn and I formally declare war upon Himling and her Lord, Elessar. A massive reward of gold (or a similar prize) is offered to any who can bring Elessar to these halls so that justice may be served. This terrorist will not go free as long as I live, and those who do his will will fall also. I shall ready the remaining 8 fleets of Arnor and prepare them for war, going under my protection to prevent further terrorist attacks from Himling.

It is no surprise that this offspring of refuse and filth assails Atannórë so. He is a lawless fool, ignorant rebel, and cowardly deviant. He claims "proud" lineage when he is little more than the spawn of a dog and a foolish Noldo.

*turns to all present and pounds the arm of his chair*

Say now if we as a nation have done anything to warrant such cowardly retaliation! Find a reason that we should not avenge these terrorist attacks!

[Lorien]

This is pretty silly on Elessar's part, how does he expect to win if the whole of Arnor and Gondor assail him?
In the absence of Naz I Lorien ally the Necromancers to Arnor/Gondor in this fight.

[Eomer Dinmention]

**What does Atannore mean and did Mike change his name to Beorn**

I Eomer, King of Rohan. I think war is no way to settle this. But if it must be done then it must be done. I Now officially state Rohan Neutral and we will not be taking sides.



Ellesar- You know why i have done this. If i chose your side Rohan will be greatly damaged. But remember you do have a home to come to.

Cir and Mike- Really war is no way to settle this up. But i will not take sides.

[Lorien]

Eomer~ So should Cir and Mike just stand by while people are killed or 'vanished' in this particular case and do nothing about it? They owe it as rulers to protect the life of their people.

[Eomer Dinmention]

What do you mean

[Lorien]

You said that war is no way to settle the issue but i for eru's sake can't see any other way. Come on Elessar made 2 fleets of Arnor simply vanish that accounts for the loss of life of people who Cir rules over and rulers are responsible to their people (good ones anyway) and so Cir HAD to take action. They could talk it out but would that bring back the lives of the 'vanished' fighters?

[Eomer Dinmention]

When did Ellesar make Cir's fleet Vanish.
Thats impossible he doesn't have the power to do that. Not even a Silver Wizard is permitted to do that.

Where is this post

[Lorien]

I used vanish in the sense that they were there and the next morning they weren't although it wasn't by magic it was by some crooked bribe kind of method which he used. Look at his posts in the journies of elessar II, In fact i'd ask everyone to read it esp. Cir/Mike it'll tell you of the fascinatingly brilliant flashes that Elessar keeps having...(i'm being sarcastic incase anyone has doubts)

Actually there wasn't any loss of lives but it was a silly trick to play under such times of stress of relations.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Ha you are all foolish and stupid, save a small few. The men of arnor are all Ok, their ships are now floating some 20 miles west of Harad, I suggest someone goes to retreive them.
I come before the court in voice only, by a trick none of you will be told at the moment.

Not one of the men of Arnor was attacked or injured in any way, save the few that resulted from their own distructive habbits. The land of Arnor was warned that the unjust fleets would be removed, and the unjust fleets were, just as I said. My word has no reason to be doubted in this hall, and I would suggest you all take that into consideration next time.

As for Beorn (who I presume is Mike)- It must be easy to send those you care little for off to battle, while the men of the upper Anduin live in prosperity...

Mithrandir, do you support this. This has three sides, each is colourless. There is the side of the powerful tyrants, the side of the Island, and the side of neutrality. (Eomer, I know your mind, be at peace, brother)

I ask that the lord of the East, and the lands of the dwarves stay quite for a while

(I have no freaking comp at home, at the moment. Dont escalate this for a few days, I might be completely off-line all weekend)

[Ciryaher]

You think we are going to sit and let you play your childish tricks on us? No. Nay, Gnat of Himling, you will be punished once and for all. You think you can prod the real men of Arda and then run away like the gutless coward you are. You are wrong to think so, and now we will hunt you down until we get you, or kill you. Either way.

And do not try to soothe the dwarves and East into taking no action against you. You want nothing more than to use their idleness as a way of escape.

*raises his voice further for all to take note of*

Hear now that any land that willingly harbors this terrorist or supports him will be punished along with him.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

I have not run away, I am on an expedition with a few friends, this is all happening and I have no way to come to it.

[Valar]

I would like to declare myself neutral for i count Elessar as my friend. If this causes any problems please tell me.
I shall not attact nor help him

[Mithrandir]

I have not quite decided what to do in this situation, I am tied between two sides. I will not aid you though Elessar i know that. But I know not if I shall fight against you. I do not know if I should be neutrl either. I will think and wait to see what happens.
~Mithers

[Beorn]

Valar, I warned you against this...

Valar is relieved of duty until the war is over. Ciryaher shall fill in for Valar, as governor of the northern lands, until I find someone to fill the position.


There is the side of the powerful tyrants, the side of the Island, and the side of neutrality

Powerful Tyrants are we? Tell me, who brought this upon yourself? YOU DID. You banned Arnorians from your lands for no good reason. So, Ciryaher blockaded your lands. Then you acted again by transporting two of his fleets. So, you have gone to far and brought your own demise upon yourself. We were actually planning on not going to war, but you forced us to.

[Valar]

Very well, but would like to resume my duties after and such war.
I would also like to say that i believe Cir and mike are right in this matter and i think there is very little options left apart from war.
But i have many friends on Elessars side including Arathin and would not like to fight them.
I shall tell you if i change my mind and stance on these matters.

[7doubles]

what do men know of gods "valor" mens council is feable and without hope, because men are evil. beauty or not, mandos won't even have them. no better than orks i say. their wanon detruction is the true music of melco.

[Ciryaher]

Men are evil? You truly are a fool, and now you too are my enemy. What right have you to speak of men as equals to orcs, when it was by OUR valor that the Might of Sauron was finally brought down. Our swords slew the hosts of Mordor so that Frodo of Old could fulfill his task. What creature are you to accuse the Edain of being evil? Do you even know what we as Edain are?

[Aerin]

Elessar, your words were dangerous enough to bring war down upon your head. If you had held your tongue, negotiations may have carried the day, but your heedless words have dashed any hope of that.
Insulting Ciryaher is one matter, but transporting his men to a different location without permission or warning is another. When the lives of a commander's men are at stake, in any way, the only honourable action is to defend them.
Your trouble is of your doing.

[7doubles]

i know man because i was a man, now i am without humen form to hinder my dreaming and stalking; silveo manual, the ring of fire

calos castanita

[Ciryaher]

Be gone from my halls, spirit of ignorance.

[Lorien]

Yeah noone got hurt but why did you have to pull such a stunt at such strained times Elessar?

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Aerin, speak not in ignorance. I gave a warning to the wise, which is the only that I would sacrafice my very being to uphold. I told him that any unjust fleets would vanish with the morning mist, and what did he do, he called me ignorant. This was my reason, like it or not.

Beorn, no good reason? He left friends and comrades upon an open battlefield while he fled for home. That is treason in my book. The only reason this war has been brought down is because of the overready sword of Ciryaher. He acted upon little to no information. He made a deliberate stroke of war upon my island when he brought those horrible ships back, and I made a peaceful gesture by sending them away. Power only wets the apetite for more. He saw me as a threat to his (and more than likely your) plans. He had no-one to fight in the west, and looked eastward. There it is that I beleive war was ever on his mind. He knew that if my friends from the east were attacked that I would not be quiet, and chose to try and scilence me. That, my friends, is my theory.

Mithrandir, something to add to your thoughts... Fighting against me will cause more than the loss of a good wizard and friend...

[7doubles]

elessar is the lone ranger. hi oh silver

[Mithrandir]

Originally posted by ¤-Elessar-¤
Mithrandir, something to add to your thoughts... Fighting against me will cause more than the loss of a good wizard and friend... [/B]
What do you mean by this? If you are trying to threaten me than I would be VERY careful. I don't care if you insult Ciryaher, you guys do it all the time, but if you DARE insult me, after all we have been through and all I have done for you in the past. Risking the thing I hold most dear, my White Council, to defend you in the war of old. I just hope you are not trying to threaten me. You better clear this up soon or you just might have a lot more to deal with than you originally planned.

7 doubles, you are the biggest fool I have ever come across on this forum(except that Harry Potter guy) do you even know who are all in this council, I AM A MAIR YOU MORON. This is not just a council of men, and let me tell you the men have a secret strength in them, I will not waste my breath on you any longer.

Let it be known that I have now officialy joined in the hunt for Elessar. Let it also be known that I alone have joined and I am not calling the White Council into this nor asking for aid from Rohan.
~Mithers

[Valar]

I would like to state that i have now officialy join the hunt to bring Elessar to justice. I would like to say that i do not wish harm him but for him to brought infront of us.
He has betrayed me and i would like to speak to him

[Dengen-Goroth]

Hail! The Mornclaur Federation wishes to keep at peace for as long as may be possible, and therefor shall not be at war least her borders be threatened.

[Ciryaher]

Elessar, it truly baffles me how you think that these wise people will be so easily fooled by your lies. Your mask is torn, like Curunir of old!

[7doubles]

ciryaher, you say i'm bad but you are relentless. but thats a good thing. at least elessar hasent been bothering me with his holyer than tho trash! but my alegients is to lord Dengen. and until he comands otherwise i will hold my peace.

[Ciryaher]

Good. Now do not bother me any more.

[Eomer Dinmention]

7doubles

I know i'm not the leader of this council and i really have no right to say this.

I think i speak for most of the people here. GET LOST stop bothering us with your pethetic questions. I don't think you have even read the LOTR.

I would like everyone in this hall to ban 7doubles from their lands so he won't annoy us. Because i have

[Aredhel]

"Because you have what?," she asks, appearing in the doorway, then continues on to the table,"As Lady of Rivendell, I feel I should be included in this discussion, since the Kingfor whom I govern Imladris is here."

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Such fickle people in the forum...*sigh

No, Mithrandir. You stated that you did not know if you were to wage war upon me, I was simply trying to sway you in the direction of neutrality. I am truely sorry for any inconveniences I have caused you.

Valar, please do not be offended by the occurences upon Ciryaher's ship. You were the only silver wizard there and I had to emphasise the power of the pendant.

[Valar]

I did not say i wissed you harm oh friend. I just said i will help find you. You may think it was ok to use my powers, but it was wrong. You used me to try and escape, i did not come to be used.
Im am coming if only to take that pendant away from you because it is not right to use your friends espcially without asking.
I would not have minded if you had asked for help, but to take it.....

[¤-Elessar-¤]

I am sorry, Valar, I did not have the time to consult even my Arathin on the matter, My comp is down and i only have this one hour every weekday, I must say that I will probably be dead before I come back on monday...*sigh.

[Cygnus]

*Naz sits silently, listening patiently to the talk*

[Kementari]

Ok, now hes gone, lets all attack Elessar, and put him on a ship for South Harad, and he wont be albe to do anything. hehehe

[Arathin]

He won't Kem, but I will. (I am not here.) Please don't do anything so rash please.

[Ciryaher]

*snickers softly while thinking of Elessar getting shipped out*

Perhaps, but he would eventually rise again in some form. We must find a way to--not destroy him, necessarily--but breaking his deviant willpower.

[Arathin]

I know him as well as or better than some of you. And you know as well as I Ciryaher that to break Elessar's will is impossible. You might as well try to break Smaug's will!

[Ciryaher]

I did not say "will", I said "deviant willpower"...his drive to cause mischief is all that needs amending. Wills can be broken, if the outcome is desirable enough to justify the means used.

[Arathin]

I still doubt that anyone could, even me. But if you insist on trying wait til he gets back on monday.

[Ciryaher]

That I shall. In the meantime, we will destroy the island of Himling so that it may no longer be used as the shield and fortress of maniacal troublemakers.

[Lorien]

Are you going to wipe out the island Cir or just destroy the structures? You could always just destroy the structures and take control of the island.

[Ciryaher]

No, we will put Himling to rest with it's kindred land of Beleriand at the bottom of the Great Sea.

[Lorien]

OK, seems a pity though that the land has to be sunk.

[Eomer Dinmention]

Don't sink the land.
Destroy the structures then burn all of the ground. You can then take control of it and give the land to someone you trust. One of your senates or something.
Its just a waste of land sinking it

[Dengen-Goroth]

Ciryaher, my friend, do not bring to ruin Himling. It may be turned fair, and held by Arnor as a great Naval Stronghold. This is a land which my be used for great deeds on your part. It msy to Arnor as Umbar is to Harad. Consider this friend.

[Arathin]

I also think that you should reconsider, Ciryaher. For although you may think that we will fall quickly and easily. We are a hard race, on a hard island. We will not fall quickly or easily and the cashalties on your part will be sever.

[Ciryaher]

Perhaps you are correct, we should console ourselves with only destroying that which has been made by hands of knowing things. Very well, Himling shall remain, and if there is no outcry from any of the other realms, I shall claim the Isle of Himling and annex it to Arnor as an addition to the Mithlond Province.

[Eomer Dinmention]

Arathin are you saying your going to fight?

If you are, it is a bad move. Cir and Beorn have brought alot of men. They will crush your men easily.
Its just a waste.

Alot of Cir's men will die and then alof of your people will die. I suggest you give up before you lose your people.

[Ciryaher]

Actually, very few of my or comrade Beorn's men will die. We have weapons that you cannot escape, and can reach you from places you cannot strike back at.

[Dain Ironfoot]

Please people avoid bloodshed, this is needless war. I will not help or hinder either side, on this conflict I have decided to remain neutral. I am sorry my friend Ellesar, but I will do my best to defend my lands and my people. I hope this shall not affect our friendship, once again I am sorry.....

~Dain

[Arathin]

If you want peace Ciryaher then talk to Elessar, not me! You had best wait for him to get back on. I don't want a war. Far from it! All I want is peace, but he has past differences with you that I don't know how he wants to resolve. Everything that he has said to me tells me that he cannot stand you. He can resolve this how he wishes, but let it beknown that I DO NOT WANT WAR!!!!!

Nain I now make an annoucement. Elessar and I will follow your plan. Please explain it to Ciryaher for me.

[Beorn]

If you want peace, you're sticking with the wrong person. Elessar has continually been the instigator.

[Dain Ironfoot]

"Cant we all just get along?"

[Lorien]

Oh joy, islands not going to be sunk anymore! We could get along if Elessar just stopped provoking evryone at every possible time.

[7doubles]

ya! like that's realy gonna happen. 7doubles snickers to himself

[Valar]

Mr 7doubles we have asked you to leave. Never show your face here again. Please can someone delete that post

[Beorn]

You can't have his post deleted on the grounds that he is being annoying...

Either put him on your ignore list...or just read the first few words of his post and decide if it's worthy of your time...

Anyway, Lorien is right. Elessar just wants war.

[Valar]

I was just saying that he is not meant to post in the senate. Any lets not get sidetracked.
I have joinned now to bring Elessar before us does that mean i can govern those territorys again Beorn?

[Dengen-Goroth]

Lord Beorn of the Mighty Land of Gondor, Doth you claim the Isle of Tolfalas. It is between South Gondor and thy own holdings. Because of our alliance not only in word but in the ruler of these holdings, Tal, should we likewise "share" it? I was just pondering over this. Thank you.

[Beorn]

Tolfalas has been defined as part of Gondor, but perhaps we can equally inhibit the island, and debate and governmental issues that should arise...

[¤-Elessar-¤]

A messenger approaches the room, he is not Arnorian this time. He comes up to the lord beorn. He informes him that there was a great noise of destruction a week ago this night, and that they came to the spot of the sound the next morning to find a great feild of dishelved metal laying just beyond the falls of Rauros. There were tracks also, leading east, hundreds seemed to go to Rohan, but there were two sets that went in a different direction, by one who wished not to be followed, and after a short time the tracks were completely lost. The messenger had also found a sail among the reckage, it seemed to be the signs of Elendil without the white tree of Gondor....

[Valar]

I am officialy changed my status on things to Neutral.

[Dain Ironfoot]

I am also neutral..

[7doubles]

i am not a fan of Ciryaher but i hope he cuts Elessars brain out and eats it!

[Dain Ironfoot]

Hey you shut your face, or I'll shut it for you! I do not agree with what is going on and I know that Ellesar made a mistake, I am standing aside and lettting the people do there job. BUT, I will not have the likes of you talk about a FAR wiser and stronger person than thowself....

[Cygnus]

Can we stop this pointless arguement please? There are more important matters at hand here.

[7doubles]

ironleg is just sucken up to elessar again. maby there is another palentier in it for ya right, ironfoot?

[Dengen-Goroth]

Very Well. Let us have it a land of peace, a token of alliance betwixt our two lands.

[Dain Ironfoot]

I'm sorry, Im lost...... who are your friends again.................... oh, no one, ok......

[7doubles]

forgive my insolence lord Dengen.

[Dain Ironfoot]

I also ask forgivness, this is not the time or place for this....

[Kementari]

OK Im the Queen here and I order you guys to be nice!!!

[Lorien]

God Save the Queen!!:D

So what's the next step against Elessar if we are taking any that is?

[Eomer Dinmention]

***Ellesar you better not get Rohan into trouble****

Yes may the Queen of Arnor stay beautiful forever and ever.
May the Valar save the Queen of Arnor forever and ever

[¤-Elessar-¤]

7doubles, master of nothing and noone, shut your mouth before I slice it from its resting place.

Eomer, my people have entered your land, and this breaks no laws or decree's set up by Ciryaher, they knew not where we went.

I have taken it upon myself to raise my power (since I had it all taken away for no reason) and thus I have destroyed my Palantir, and its powers entered me and now feed from the power that cannot now be used (that which was of the silver wizards). Thus I now have, in my mind, the sight (seeing far off places, into the future (somewhat), and into the past), telepathy, and the power to transmit my voice.

Have a nice day

[Aredhel]

"If you have the sight, Elessar," a voice from nearby says, and Aredhel approaches him,"What is the future of Rivendell and the elven people left over in Middle-earth, for that is why I am here."

[Kementari]

May the Valar bless Eomer and Lorien, and save their spirits from evil :)

ELESSAR! I can't even begin to express my anger er aggitation in words. Sure if you keep upgradeing your powers when you get board and decide to start a war agian you'll always win... :rolleyes: WHY are we letting him do this???

[Aredhel]

"If he does start another war, I know whose side I will be on this time, but maybe he won't win?"

She smiles grimly,"But why is there war in the first place? It seems to me that there is a clash of personalties and that someone wants to rule the entire Middle-earth. Why can't we all just get along?" She says, perturbed. She strides out of thee room the Senate is hel in and goes back to Rivendell.

[Ciryaher]

My Lady, we are letting him do this because long ago he corrupted far too many people. Yea, it is but recently that the true Elessar hath been seen. Was this the vigorous rebel you once knew, I ask you? Is the fiery claimant of Arnor still the charismatic Dunadan he once was?

It seems to me he is a man of split natures; and now his dark, corrupt visage is revealed for those to see that can.

[Eomer Dinmention]

Yes Ellesar then let it be.

Cir is there anything wrong from me taking care of the people of Himling??

[Beorn]

I've no problem with it, so long as they are kept completely under control.

[Ciryaher]

You may "take care" of them in a sense that you send and give aid to them, but if you mean "take care" as in look over Himling, I should say no. I think you were asking the former, so I say "Yes, you may."

[Eomer Dinmention]

Yes i will take care of the people of Himling.
I don't want to take over the Actual Himling itself. I leave that to you Cir or Beorn

[Aredhel]

Yes, I've seen the true Ellesar, and know now what he is. It saddensme greatly that one should fall to the dark. Even perhaps there will be another Dark Lord.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

I ask anyone here, the entire forum! What have I done that is so amazingly evil? I could had fired cannons upon Ciryaher's ships, but no, I took the peaceful approach- sending them off. I stood before the Arnorian Army and denied them passage to Rohan, when they had claimed war upon the White Council. I gave my kingdom to another, just to prevent bloodshed! What the hell do you all want from me?

[Aredhel]

I am sorry Elessar. All this is my fault.

[Mithrandir]

I find no evil in you my friend, you know why I am after you and it is not for the same reasons as the rest of this council.
~Mithers

[Beorn]

a) Kem's finger
b) banning of Arnorians and Gondorians from Himling with no cause
c) transporting two of Ciryaher's fleets
d) transporting Ciryaher's boat.

And that's to name a few! Would anyone else like to add to the list? Even if they're old, they all show that you constantly cause trouble...

[Dain Ironfoot]

but he didn't transport Cirs boat, that was his oun!!!

[Kementari]

I don't know whether Elessar really embodies a sprit of evil or whether he is just very ANNOYING

[Dain Ironfoot]

Common....

[Arathin]

I have read past posts. I know what he was like then and now. I see a normal change. It is not for good or evil. Elessar is right though. How are the things that he has done evil? He could have done far worse, but didn't. He took the more peaceful way to met his ends. There are some here in this council (I will mention no names, so don't persume I mean you or not) that find violent or war-causing means the only way to reach their own ends. This rises the question, 'Does the end justify the means?' I think that this whole thing is just one mess of miss understanding, misconceptions, past hatreds/annoyances, etc. If you view Elessar as evil, then I too must be evil for loving him. If I'm evil, then all half-elf/humans must be evil. If all halfs are evil, then all elves and all humans must be evil. If all elves and all humans are evil, then almost everyone here is evil.(with the exception of the Dwarves whom cannot be worked into this, but wouldn't want to be) So if Elessar is evil, then you two, Cir and Beorn, are also evil. Next time chose your words more carefully. I can do this type of thing with almost anything that you say.

[Ciryaher]

I, for one, have not called you evil. You are not evil in my eyes, but very wayward and spiteful. Young Elessar, learn to trust and not be suspicious of all who offer peace! I am not the tyrant or madman you perhaps think me, but the hand of friendship (or cordiality at the very least) is ever extended to thee. Will you not take it and end this bitter distrust once and for all? My hand does not make out of the way changes for friendship, for that is untrue, but it is there nonetheless.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

-Beorn-
confused as usual...

1) I didn't do **** to Kem's fingers, 'twas Dain.
2) Just cause was given, and the ban was only to high ranking govt. officials, not to ordinary citizens
3) When Ciryaher returned to Himling with his fleets he started the war. Moving those fleets was an act of war. He was also given a fair warning to move them, he scoffed at it.
4) You are still confused on the whole boat thing.

-Ciryaher-
Your hand of friendship has proven to be no more than a cold, iron Gauntlet. And I dont think you are a madman, at least no more than myself. But a tyrant you are, forever power hungry and eager for conquest of the easier to defeat. Oh, and by the way, first law of the downtroden:

Alliances shatter with the wind, but friendships should be forever. Allies will backstab, but true friends hold true. Make good friends, not allies.

Therefore I no longer make alliances, I make friends, and if friendship cannot exist than nothing will we have to do with one another, save for spite.

-Mithrandir-
You know as well as I that your "reasons" make little to no sense. I used that damned amulet once already, you may remember it...WHEN I SAVED YOU ALL FROM THAT DESTROYED SHIP AND THE GIGANTIC WALLS OF WATER IN RP20. Seems to me like it is ok to use the magic when it helps you, but when it helps me it is suddenly wrong? Hypocritical? Maybe just a bit.

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Darn, will you look at that, Beorn made me curse. I appoligise to everyone who read that. Is Atannórë bringing charges against me? I will argue my point only if there is to be a fair jury, and if the charges are actuall charges, and not made up strange stuff.

[Mithrandir]

No Elessar, it is not the emulet I am angered by. You sucked the power from Silver Wizards into you in order to aid you in a war which they were neutral in, the amulet was yours to use and we both know that. Now I see why you are angered because you have been confused of my reasons. These are my charges and none other. So don;t ever say my reasons amake no sense.
~Mithers

[7doubles]

ciryher and counsil, i would like to bring charges against elessar for the distruction of a palentior wich was given to Dengen Goroth by dain ironfoot as a tolken of peace. i knew it would happen as soon as elessar came back on monday and warned all who would listen. i can easly produce evedence to suport my case. i will drop my charges if elessar replaces the orb to lord Dengen. thank you for hearing me out.

[Beorn]

Ok, my bad, it is people with Authorative Positions:

As of now, anyone who holds an authoritive position in any of the following countries is blocked from entrance to the isle.
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Arnor- for wrongs done in the battles to save lothlorien

Gondor- which still holds decree that I will be arrested upon entrance to its lands.
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BUT, I never decreed anything of the such, so you still don't have any reason against me. Find me the quote!

And, for Arnor, what thread is that in?

[Dengen-Goroth]

Then Court let us have! I suggest Tolfalas, and the judge should be chosen as one nuetral to the plight from the beginning. 7doubles, it would be advisable to not enter any claims as that was never my palintir and I am in no relation with the Dwarves as of now. Furthmore to my knowledge the dwarves do not posses a palintir.

[Talierin]

*whispers "Happy 1000th post, Dengen"*

[Dengen-Goroth]

Why thank you Tal :). It's taken some, 1,2,3,4,5, nearly five months to get back to 1,000:). Let me restate the dwarven alliance issue. I have a great alliance with the Zirak Khazad empire, not much communication with Nain and Dain, though we are on friendly terms and basically allies. How shall we vote for the judge. Let us perhaps have a tribunal. May all charges in this and past wars be brought forth or rest!

[Arathin]

Beorn, Cir's abandonment is in RP:Save Lothlorien. I don't know what number that is though.

Ciryaher, why do you view me as wayward and spiteful? Not that I am not, but what have I done to make you think that?

I for one am sick of this whole war thing. "War, Good God, What is it good for?" sorry had to Anyway, how about slight truse? (Elessar pm me if you have problems with what I am about to offer. Don't rant about it here.)

Cir and Beorn. Any authoritive figures of Arnor or Gondor(Atannore) may come to Himling after speaking their wish and purpose for the visit. Himling is an island. Traders and seafolk and friends are the only ones who would have any reason to seek our land. The only other time any would seek our land would be when diplomatic discoustions(sp?) or parties are held. In which case pre-discourse would always be needed and apropriate. As for going through your lands? Well any would have good cause to go through your lands. Such as: To visit friends, to get to other lands, etc. But an island that is far from anyother land, and on the way to nowhere but open sea? No one would have reason to come to our island, unless it is one of the aforementioned reasons. In which case the aforementioned procedures should and will be followed. Does this suit better than what Elessar issued in the heat of his anger?

[Ciryaher]

'Tis better, but after Elessar's rejection of my offer of peace (at the very least) I shall no longer hear anything that Elessar or his representatives have to say. As far as Arnor is concerned, all attempts at a possible peace and friendship are off. When a friendly hand is extended and is smitten back with spiteful words and distrust...that is the last straw.

Himling is now part of Arnor, you have no say in its affairs. Begone unless you have something other than Elessar to discuss.

[Arathin]

I don't see how Himling is part of Arnor when you don't rule it. You cannot rule a land if it already has rulers, unless you negotiate or fight and win the land. You have done neither, so therefore you do not and cannot rule over Himling, Ciryaher. Go on and keep pushing me. None here have seen my mind at true work. None, even Elessar. I am creative, imaginative, and more diciplined than anyone else here. I don't rise to anger swiftly nor easily, but you slowly begin to push my limits. I am a trust-worthy and price-less friend as those who know me will tell you. But make an enemy of me, and you will rue the day you first heard the name of Arathin, Queen of Himling. My people and I will fight for our land til death, if you wish to take me up on this then by all means...

[Ciryaher]

Elessar himself said the Island was abandoned, so now I shall plant my standard upon it. Your people fled with Elessar to his conspicuous headquarters...were you not informed?

[Arathin]

And where was this stated? I have been reading this thread, and nothing of the sort was thus stated. I would like an exact quote, and location of where this quote could be found on my own to acertain it's authenticity.

[Ciryaher]

Read the War of Vengeance thread. It's there, and maybe elsewhere as well.

[Eomer Dinmention]

****Well done Dengen I am also in the 1000 group yeah lol***


Ellesar this is one of my advices do not drag the Dwarves into this

[¤-Elessar-¤]

ooc: Arathin, sorry, we have been out of communication for a while, there is a thread in the RP forum, called War of Vengence (wasn't that the name of the never started RP8?). Our people are safe, in the land of Rohan, and that is nearly all that matters. We are also safe, atop Amon Anwar. Dain is there with us.

Mike- We went over this already, it was in the RP8 discussion, and that thread was deleted.

Mithrandir- Alright then, if those were your charges against me than the punishment has been fulfilled...

All- So, will there be no charges brought from either Gondor or Arnor. If none are brought soon I shall consider myself a free man, able to go where I please.

[Arathin]

Elessar-It is quite alright.

Ciryaher-I never looked at that thread, but I will now. And he didn't post that anywhere else, but he hasn't really posted anywhere else recently.

[Lorien]

Lorien starts singing in a low voice, "All you need is love, love, love is all you need." take a hint everyone

[Kementari]

*violins start playing* love is all ya need, love is all ya need

[Ciryaher]

I will accuse you of nothing. You are, however, banned from ever setting foot upon Himling or any other square inch of Arnorian territory. If you are capable of behaving yourself elsewhere, I may allow you to pass through with permission.

[Eomer Dinmention]

*Eomer starts singing Yellow Submarine lol OOPs wrong song lol

[Lorien]

I'll get by with a little help from my friends....0

[Eomer Dinmention]

*Eomer sees a Diamond on the wall
"Lucie and diamonds in the sky or something like thaat"

[Lorien]

Lucy in the sky with diamonds....great song about LSD....
What do we do now that Elessar has shut himself up in Amon Anwar?

[Kementari]

" Let it be, let it be, let it be, oh let it be, whisper words of wisdom, let it be..." :D LOL

[Eomer Dinmention]

"I've got a ticket to ride, yeah yeah something something"

Why are we singin the beetles. This is not the time for it

[Kementari]

"Say the word im thinkin of, have you heard the word is love? its sooo fine its sunshine its the word love" LOL

OOC okok i could go on singing beatles lyrics for the rest of my life but this isn't the time for it

[7doubles]

across the universe

[Eomer Dinmention]

"You say you lost your love,
But i saw her yesterday'
Its you shes thinking of'
and she told me what to say,
She says she loves you,
And you know that can't be bad,
Shes say she loves you,
And you know you should be glaaad,

She loves you yeah yeah yeah
She loves you yeah yeah yeah"

Lol
I couldn't remmeber the rest lol

[Ciryaher]

*Ciryaher scowls and rubs his temples*

Are you all quite finished?

*rubs his eyes, then looks up*

I believe the business with Elessar can be put on the back burner for the moment. We can now focus on the construction of the great Cathedral of the Valar here in Annuminas. I have received various sketches from both the remaining Elven, some Dwarven, and quite a few Atani architects. I shall soon have a materials request for all of the Senators to take to their respective provinces to see what they might contribute.

[Eomer Dinmention]

*Cir when will the White Council be moved to Arnor

[Ciryaher]

I do not know; Mithrandir may relocate the Council anytime he pleases after the Cathedral has been built.

On another note, I officially declare that the Island of Himling is hereby annexed to the Empire of Arnor as an addition to the Mithlond Province (Governor as of yet undecided). All laws and rights of the previous Arnorian states are also given to Himling and it's citizens, who are now citizens of Atannórë.

[Eomer Dinmention]

The people of Himling are at Rohan now

[Ciryaher]

Yes, but I'm already sending settlers to rebuild on the island, and they will have the same rights as they did before. Purely legal matters, friend Eomer.

[Arathin]

You have my most gracious thanks for the care you are bestowing upon my people, Eomer. I hope that one day I might return this favor. Until that day I'm most humbly and deeply in your debt.

Ciryaher, I see no need for any of this to go any further. You have Himling. Please allow Elessar and I to settle down somewhere quiet for a time. I want no war with any present.

[Eomer Dinmention]

**Cir as long as you treat them well, then you may have them back**

I will send them back once they are ready to go.

[Arathin]

Why would my people be going back to Himling? The true rangers amoung them are mine. They will follow only me unless I say other unto them. They are descended from the rangers of King Aragorn, and now follow me as his sister. They will return to the Wilderness before they see any besides me rule them. Even on Himling, they listened to Elessar only because it was my wish.

Eomer, my people are leaving your land, and returning to the Wilderness. They will live again as homeless rangers before following anyone but me.

[Ciryaher]

Yes, as I said, the war is over (if it can even be considered to have started...).

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Arathin, do not forget that the blood of he runs through my veins also.

As long as Ciryaher has stopped his foolishness I will be leaving Amon Anwar, it was a place of momentary refuge, and we will not dwell in the hollowed place for any length of time. I do beleive I will go to take up my governorship in Rohan, and I do beleive it is near to time for a merrage.

[Arathin]

*blushes* I agree to the marriage part, but please make sure that you check with Eomer before taking up any governship there.

[Ciryaher]

Very well, now hopefully things will run smoothly and we can continue with our...renovations unhindered.

Estimates for building supplies for the Cathedral's structure approximate at 85000 tons of granite, 120000 tons of marble, and several small orders of hematite and jade. All quarries are free to cast a bid for lots of stone.

Also, there will be a high demand of structural lumber, so mills and foresters may also cast bids.

[Arathin]

Sounds like it will be possitively beautiful, Ciryaher.

Nain, Dain, and all other dwarves. I believe that call went out to you for the stone.

[Eomer Dinmention]

If Arnor is in need of supplies (Which it shouldn't need to)
Rohan has alot of supplies to trade with

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Ciryaher, the Artisians are at your call.

[Mithrandir]

I offer the aid of all the wizards.
~Mithers

[Ciryaher]

Many thanks, but I have still received no bids in the Post! Dwarves, do you not hear the clink of gold coins calling? Stone and masonry is needed!

[Ecthelion]

I have more than planty stone for trade sir Ciryaher.

[Mormegil]

Cir,
The White Mountains are the stone produciing capital of ME. I'm sure we could provide you with adequate resources and fine Dwarven craftsmen to complete the job for you.

[Ciryaher]

Alright, those of you who wish to provide materials for the Temple may send a message through the Post (IM, that is) with the amount of material you can supply and what you are asking for payment.

[Ciryaher]

This is to announce that Morwen is now the Governor of the Mithlond and Himling. Let it be recorded in the tomes of history!

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Morwen?!?!? Oh, that is just great...

[Ciryaher]

You have a problem with the honorable and wise Lady Morwen governing?

Here is the Arnorian part of the Senate as of now:

Arnor - Ciryaher
Arthedain - Kementari
Cardolan - Mithrandir
Rhudaur - Aerin
Rivendell - Aredhel
Angmar - Lorien
Mithlond/Himling - Morwen
The Shire - Kit Baggins (inform me if this is incorrect)

On the subject of the Temple, I have made an agreement with Lord Telchar and he will supply a great deal of the finer stone, I believe. Would anyone happen to know where I might acquire a great quantity of jade and/or hematite?

[Aredhel]

I don't know...Rivendell has a store of gems. Would that help?

[Ciryaher]

I'm mainly looking for structural stone and stone for statues, but if you wish, the artists of Imladris could come once the Temple itself is built and create mosaics with the gems of Rivendell.

[Aredhel]

Cool!

[¤-Elessar-¤]

No, no problem, she just doesn't like me for reasons unknown to myself, but what else is new?

[Ciryaher]

*grins at Elessar*

I've heard that from a lot of people about you, Elessar.

*winks*

[¤-Elessar-¤]

Hey, Cir, mind telling me what the second element in your new name is Penn is like slant down (or something like that) but I cant find gristion for the life of me...

[Kementari]

penna- slant down, grist - cut/cleave, ion - a typical ending for a male name; can mean son of

don't mess with me im the professer of Quenya hehe :p

[¤-Elessar-¤]

****, the ending part didn't occur to me, and I knew grist, I think I feel stupid now, oh well, that's nothing new either...

[Kit Baggins]

Originally posted by Ciryaher
The Shire - Kit Baggins (inform me if this is incorrect)


That's right :) .

~Kit :)

[¤-Elessar-¤]

:p to you too!

[Kementari]

:p :p :p

[Ciryaher]

If you ever looked closely at my face in real life, you'd know why my name was Penngristion (which by some strange coincidence was generated using my name...)

Excellent, Kit. I shall edit the recent post with the list of Senators to confirm your Senatorial status.

[Morwen]

Sorry I haven't posted sooner. I've been roaming around in another world for quite some time now.
And Elessar, I don't dislike you entirely. I've not gotten to know you well enough, and if I did come off as not liking you, then I'm sorry.

Anyway, hello to all, I'm glad to be part of such a great community of people.

[Ciryaher]

*bows to Morwen*

I have acquired the services of Telchar's people, and construction on the Temple of the Valar may now commence. This is not to say that more supplies are not needed; to the contrary, I am still in great need of jade and hematite.