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Beorn
09-15-2003, 01:29 AM
Think of a word to describe J. R. R. Tolkien. To me, Tolkien is an innovator. He created a world, with history and a future, with good and evil, with love and with war. He started the Fantasy writing movement. Hundreds of writers, and dozens of famous authors based their works on Tolkien's ideas. There are even books to help understand his world. His letters are published. He has movies being made of his works.
What is Tolkien, to you?
Turin
09-15-2003, 02:35 AM
He's a genious! He put so much detail in all his writings that you could have been reading his books for years and still find out new things every day.
Celebthôl
09-15-2003, 11:03 AM
He is a minature God :p ;)
Kelonus
09-15-2003, 05:42 PM
Tolkien is unique. He's the man.
Random orc
09-16-2003, 10:07 PM
A genius. the best writer in the world.
HLGStrider
09-21-2003, 02:38 AM
A role model. . .
I find that I resemble some of his quirks. . .but only the bad ones. I think I take critisism about as well as he did. . .not all that well if you read his biographies.
Aglarthalion
09-21-2003, 02:50 AM
To me, Tolkien was a storyteller. He was also an inventor and a genius, all of the finest degree. His work has been the source of enjoyment, deliberation and inspiration to millions. He was a truly special man, and we are extremely fortunate to have had him exist in our time.
HLGStrider
09-21-2003, 02:54 AM
CHEATER! You were supposed to use one word.
I used two, I suppose. . .
Aglarthalion
09-21-2003, 03:55 AM
Okay, I changed it now. ;)
dapence
09-22-2003, 05:28 AM
Tolkien once remarked that he would like to be remembered simply as a storyteller, so my pick would be that -- Storyteller.
Lhunithiliel
09-22-2003, 09:20 PM
This is what he is to me:reading Tolkien (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=360154)
BlackCaptain
09-24-2003, 04:41 AM
Tolkien to me is perfection in the field of science fiction. literally perfection
klugiglugus
09-25-2003, 09:39 PM
I hate to have to be the pseudo intellectualist here but Tolkien was non of these things, Tolkien was a product of a mono-cultured British society, a mono-cultured Europe, but most of all he was a product of good! The definition of good being that you protect your own people above all others, you fight hard, you struggle, you admire and create a great love for your people and in doing these things you almost acquire a divinity, a humble divinity.
In a very Tacticus type of way we have lost these types of men in our culture because we no longer have the type of elements to produce them and in their place we have put things very foreign to Europe.
To expand upon these things and make some things more clear I think we must first debate what Tolkien did in a more romantic sense.
I hate to correct you all but Tolkien was a linguist. That was what his (paid) job was: a Professor of Linguistics at Oxford; and the languages came first, then ME.
Eledhwen
10-12-2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by klugiglugus
I hate to have to be the pseudo intellectualist here but Tolkien was non of these things, Tolkien was a product of a mono-cultured British society, a mono-cultured Europe, but most of all he was a product of good! The definition of good being that you protect your own people above all others, you fight hard, you struggle, you admire and create a great love for your people and in doing these things you almost acquire a divinity, a humble divinity. Firstly, Britain has never been monocultured; the English northerners and southerners of this land never really understood one another (sometimes literally!) even though they shared the same colour skin; and that's before we mention Scotland and Wales. Tolkien was a west-midlander, and displayed cultural prejudice when he gave The Hobbit's Trolls cockney accents as much as in any portrayal of M.E. enemy armies. Yes, Tolkien loved England - the England that was fast disappearing as he grew up. His knowledge of other mythologies made him realise the paucity of our own, largely Christianised mythologies, and set about writing a believable mythology for England. I believe his mythology to be inspired, and he himself acknowledged that he did not write it 'alone'.
It is impossible to give a single word definition of a man who has enriched us with such a mythology and at the same time ruined us for any other works which claim to be comparable and never are.
His own name has become synonymous with his entire created world. It is ..... He is ..... Tolkien!
Morgan LeFay
01-17-2004, 09:21 PM
Genius.I am a writer myself and I couldn't make anything, that would be a one-hundredth of what that man's made.
Rhiannon
01-19-2004, 07:41 AM
What Tolkien was not was a good novelist. He was a brilliant storyteller, and a good linguist, and a rather grumpy man, and an intellectual, and probably at heart a Romantic, but (like many great writers), he was a terrible novelist.
It gives me hope, it does.
Inderjit S
01-20-2004, 03:53 PM
The greatest author ever, author of the greatest book ever, and inventor of the greatest fantasy worlds ever. A great man.
Starbrow
01-21-2004, 06:10 AM
INFLUENTIAL
Not only did he write the greatest novel ever; but a whole genre of literature developed from his fantasy.
Ireth Telrúnya
01-22-2004, 04:55 PM
Tolkien is a relatively new discovery to me, though I'd have had enough time to read his works in the past...shame on me I dropped reading "Hobbit" back then. I needed to see the world of those movies before I could see his genius.
I have even some studies of English Philology behind me and then met one teacher who probably was buried in the world of Tolkien, since she talked about him in the lectures. (sorry, despite my english studies, my grammar is sometimes not so good...)
Right now I think Tolkien's creation is best among the scifi and fantasy literary that I know. Maybe he indeed was the one who created fantasy fiction.
Frank Herbert and his "Dune" comes to mind. He also created a remarkable world of his own. Though he was not a philologist and didn't have any interest to create folklore and languages. He was more interested in religions and spirituality.
I've read somewhere that Tolkien was a friend of C.S. Lewis, a well-known Christian fantasy fiction and scifi writer. And some say Tolkien was a Christian. Well, that term can be so fuzzy edged and mean many things depending on one's devotion.
Anyway, I think Tolkien was a genius as a linguist and a philologist and his imagination knew no boundaries!
Elwen of Gondor
01-22-2004, 09:51 PM
TOUCHING
I'd have to go with this word because Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings has touched me in ways other books never could. I've noticed Frank Herbert's Dune mentioned here...that book dazzled me until I picked up The Lord of the Rings. After that I felt like nothing could compare. Lord of the Rings struck an immensely profound chord in me. I don't know how to explain it. The book resonated on so many levels with me and it left me changed in thought, spirit, and word. Lord of the Rings is at its core a touching story of friendship, love, heroism, goodness, and humble greatness. It is the story to end all stories. An amazing amalgam of fantasy, language, action, profound themes, and just good ol' storytelling.
Tolkien has ruined me for other stories...but I can't say I'm complaining :)
~Elwen~
Helcaraxë
01-24-2004, 07:05 PM
He's a cartographer. He makes maps of things we could never have dreamed of. Not physical maps, of course.
~Helcaraxë
pipin
03-02-2004, 11:00 PM
he rocks he is the best writer inthe world :D
HLGStrider
03-02-2004, 11:47 PM
When I saw the title of your post pipin, the first thing that came to mind was "Tolkien is Catholic. . ." then came that "I am God" scene from Ground Hogs Day. . .hehe.
greypilgrim
06-18-2004, 01:49 AM
my word for tolkien is....INSANE...literally.
There just is no other way to describe a man's mind that can paper it like he did.
He started the Fantasy writing movement.
Apart from a few guys in Greece 2500 years ago, and a whole lot of people ever since....
Beorn
06-22-2004, 04:23 AM
Apart from a few guys in Greece 2500 years ago, and a whole lot of people ever since....
movement.
Fantasy always a genre. It didn't become a major genre until The Lord of the Rings, hence 'movement.'
Arvedui
06-22-2004, 04:04 PM
To me, Tolkien is great.
If it was allowed to use more than one word, I'd say a lot more. Great is sort of not enough.
I am always awestruck by the complexity in the works, the focus on the most minute details (although I still wonder who King Bladorthin was). And you can't get a clear picture on how much work he put into his books by just reading The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion. It is when you have read through Unfinished Tales, Letters, and the HoME-series it really strikes you what an effort those three first-mentioned books really were.
glirhuin
06-22-2004, 04:54 PM
[COLOR=Indigo]for me tolkien is the best writer in the world, a genious, the most imaginary person in the world.
I think eru gave him a lot of his power¨. :rolleyes:
rs691919
06-27-2004, 03:33 PM
I like the Webmaster's chosen word: storyteller. Tolkien was a masterful storyteller. But it doesn't do him justice because it is not just the way he tells the story, but the story that he tells.
And ultimately that story is about hope, and that is what Tolkien is to me. Especially to someone like myself who is not religious, who is an irretrievable cynic and pessimist, he represents the hope that there is something better just down the road as long as despair is placed in a forgotten corner; that even while the city burns and the Enemy is at the Gate, the rooster may crow and the horns may echo in the mountainside.
I think the following passage really sums up the man and his writing:
There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.
Heathertoes
06-28-2004, 11:35 AM
...not Peter Jackson. There is no higher praise.
greypilgrim
06-28-2004, 03:55 PM
Fantasy always a genre. It didn't become a major genre until The Lord of the Rings, hence 'movement.'
I agree. He is the Godfather of all things fantasy these days. When he wrote the Hobbit/LoTR/Sil it was like the earth shifted in the realm of fantasy writing. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Eternity
06-29-2004, 09:13 AM
To me Tolkien is the best writer I know. And some kind of genius. :) I like the word "storyteller" too. That´s what he is.
Morgoth
07-07-2004, 06:52 PM
Inspirational
Elbereth
07-07-2004, 08:54 PM
He is a creative mind who changed how we see fantasy. And not to mention he is a talented author ;)
Amarië
07-29-2004, 01:24 AM
IDOL
I wish I had the imagination or time to create something half as magnificent as he did.
~A~
Kristaline
07-30-2004, 04:36 AM
Inspiration.
When I first was introduced to Tolkien via a teacher who read the Hobbit and The Fellowship of the Ring, I was facinated by a series of books written in a whole new world. I grew up in the middle of nowhere and I had no idea of the great things people could think. It is responsible for my love of this genre of books and writing.
Firawyn
08-01-2004, 08:57 PM
Tolkien is(well technically was)...let's see...honorable.
That is a good description, I think.
baragund
08-02-2004, 01:50 PM
GENIUS
Anybody who can create an entire universe/mythology out of his imagination in that much detail, where things fit together as well as they did, has GOT to be touched by genius.
spirit
08-20-2004, 06:10 PM
Expert story-teller and a genius
:)
Narya
08-22-2004, 06:40 PM
A Genius.
A linguist.
A Great story-teller.
Ronaldinho
08-25-2004, 06:03 PM
a ruddy brilliant bloke!
Lhunithiliel
08-26-2004, 07:17 AM
It is said (Verlyn Flieger - "Splintered Light") about one of the members of the Inklings - Owen Barfield, to be a:
"speculative thinker and philosopher whose interest lies chiefly in the relationship between language, myth and cultural reality"
I think that Tolkien is all that but I would also add "history" to the above enlisted aspects.
This is what Tolkien is to me - a great mind, a scientist and a "speculative thinker" who searches the "roots" of the words - firmly convinced that there at those "roots" he will find a reality that once upon a time had given birth to the words themselves - a reality in which lived certain people with certain culture and certain view of life! :cool:
Lhunithiliel
08-26-2004, 02:47 PM
I think it takes a little more than reading the introduction of Prof. Flieger's Splintered Light – an overall very good book, btw. - to understand the difference between Owen Barfield and J.R.R. Tolkien.
I takes that, indeed.
Yet, while reading, one can still come across a combination of words expressing in a very appropriate way what's on the mind; words that one sees and thinks "Ah! I could not say it better!".
It's not about similarities or/and differences Tolkien has as a scientist and/or as a writer, when compared to other scientists and/or writers, I think, but about the way one feels about him and his works. What's on the mind on this subject can be expressed in simple words, true. But one can also quote someone else's words, too, those of someone who has succeeded in finding the very right combination of words that in fact expresses exactly what you think. And even if the found combination of words refers to sth. or someone else, if you feel them right and appropriate for expressing your own thoughts, then why not use them. :cool:
ingolmo
07-16-2005, 01:28 PM
To me, Tolkien is the writer who created the saga in which I dwell during meals, and science and maths periods. He's the writer of possibly one of the greatest, informative, detailed, poetically beautiful, non-religious piece of literature. To me, he is one of the best writers of the world, who has created the masterpiece of Ea.
Jesse
07-20-2005, 05:09 PM
To me, Tolkien is an inspiration. He inspires me to write my novel and make unique and original. To me, Tolkien is a genius!
Ingwë
09-12-2005, 02:48 PM
To me Tolkien is the best author. he has created a new world. Many readers live in that world, sometimes they escape from the real world and 'went' to Tolkien's though sometimes it is tragic. But that world is special. It has specific influence on each reader. It is powerful and interesting. It has many things to me found and that's why there are too many people who want to find them. :)
Elvenstar
07-28-2006, 06:24 AM
Professor Tolkien is a great figure in my life.
He opened the World for me, that was hidden for a while, but in which I was born and had lived until I came to the Earth.
Many people have an opinion that everything written in the Fantasy genre is a tale, the product of the author’s illusions.
If yes – I can advice – try to UNDERSTAND that this “unreal” world is totally real.
Many people live in one dimension and use the brain as a supreme way of thinking. But, if to open soul and feelings and suddenly FIGURE OUT that there is something else that is hidden from the eyes, which see just those things that we COMMAND them to see. But they (eyes) don’t see those things that we implanted “This is unreal, this is fantasy, so – not true.”
Who said that?
Here are creatures-guides, sent from other worlds for opening these worlds to us and showing that the Universe is unlimited and any “illusion” is reality.
In my life the first person-guide like this is the Professor from Oxford.
Let other think that he died, but he still lives among us – I know that. Souls such as this one just DON’T KNOW HOW TO DIE!
I just want to say to him THANK YOU MISTER TOLKIEN for everything because of what I can remember, where I came from. Now I know my race and my goals. Thank you for Arda, which exists in reality! And for all those wonderful friends, which Tolkienism connected me with!…
Narya
07-29-2006, 02:43 AM
...Is probably the biggest influence and inspiration in my writing career.
Varokhâr
07-29-2006, 03:13 AM
The author of the greatest story ever told :D
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