Jews?

[klugiglugus]

Any Jewish people on the board? I ask because I recently entered a synagogue and found it to be a very interesting place I have attempted reading the Talmud in the past but as with all religious things, including the Bible and others I just really cannot be bothered after the first few pages...

[Sarah]

um, yes. here I am.

*waves both arms and jumps up and down*

[Anamatar IV]

I'm Jewish by heritage...

None of my family is religious though. I've only been in a synagogue for my friend's Barmistzvah (not my non-existing one:o )

[Angoreth]

May I have explained to me what Jewish beliefs are exactly?

[klugiglugus]

Sarah um, yes. here I am.

*waves both arms and jumps up and down*

I'm Jewish by heritage...

None of my family is religious though. I've only been in a synagogue for my friend's Barmistzvah (not my non-existing one

Cool, do you think there is any Jewish symbolism in Lord of the rings??? I recall once reading an interesting article on how the dwarves from M.E where to represent the Jewish people of ancient Europe, which seems quite logical to me little people, strong, with good hearts...

[Sarah]

Originally posted by Angoreth
May I have explained to me what Jewish beliefs are exactly?

You think He came, we think He's coming.

except for me. I'm a messianic Jew. I think also think He came.

[Starflower]

What Sarah means is that the Jews believe the Messiah is still coming , whereas the Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah. That;s the major difference. A messianic Jew is someone who believes Jesus was the Messiah.

[Angoreth]

I am not meaning any thing offensive by this I am just trying to under stand. Star Flower who exactly do you think Jesus was?

[Bethelarien]

Sarah, I have a question for you, maybe you can answer it, maybe you can't, since you're a Messianic Jew.

Why do the Jews no longer perform burnt offerings? According to Jewish law (I think), they were to burn sacrifices in similtude of the coming Messiah's sacrifice.

Of course, since the Messianic Jews believe Jesus was the Christ, I can see how they (you) would no longer do so, the similitude having been fulfilled in Christ.

Is that absolutely confusing, or can I finally get an answer to my question?

(BTW-I'm also Jewish by lineage. I'm of the tribe of Ephraim.)

[Sarah]

ok. well I don't have an answer for u, but i do have a question.

Why do the christians not celebrate passover, or Yom Kippur, or Rosh Hashana, or Sukkos, when it clearly states in the bible that we should celebrate it?

[Thorin]

Originally posted by Sarah
ok. well I don't have an answer for u, but i do have a question.

Why do the christians not celebrate passover, or Yom Kippur, or Rosh Hashana, or Sukkos, when it clearly states in the bible that we should celebrate it?
And another good question is, why don't people observe the seventh day sabbath? How do you feel about that as a Messianic Jew, Sarah? Do you feel that the Sabbath was only for the Jews and that if you weren't a Jew you'd keep Sunday?

I'd guess you wouldn't because if Christ's resurrection instituted a new Sabbath in place of the seventh day, then as a Christian, you'd be observing it wouldn't you?

I find this interesting because basically Sarah is what the early apostles were...Jewish Christians. I know those in the Catholic church seem to feel that they are the proper interpretation and lineage of early apostolic church history, but technically, the Messianic Jews are.

[Angoreth]

to tell you the truth I do not know. But I am going to church tonight, I will ask my youth pastor. Hopefuly i will have some information next time.

[Sarah]

And God rested on the seventh day. That day is Saturday. In the United states calendar the 7th day of the week is Saturday. In Mexico and other Spanish countries, the 7th day of the week is sun. It all depends on where u are and how u look at it.

[Angoreth]

O.k
The reason why Christians do not do pass over is because we celebrait Jesus's ressurection. Jews celebrait pass over becuase it is also remembering of when they were released from Egypt. Well you would know why you celebrait it,lol.

[Sarah]

Those two have nothing to do with each other. In fact, Jesus celebrated Passover. So, why don't the Christians?

[Starflower]

the answer might lie in the fact that Jesus was raised as a Jew, he wasn't "christian", as he is the one who founded the religion. Christians celebrate Easter as that's when Jesus was crucified and when he rose from the dead, that it is at the same time as Jewish passover has no meaning for us. We do not celebrate passover as we do not consider ourselves under the "old covenant " of the Jews, for whom passover has a special meaning, for us it doesn't , that's really all there is.

and Angorath, answer to your question, I am a Christian :)

[Thorin]

There are many Christians making a trend to rediscover our Jewish roots. The problem with Christians is that the whole "law was done away with" mentality has influenced most everybody to think that Christians needn't have ANYTHING to do with Judaism.

This is not true at all. This mindset was brought on by the post apostolic church's misuse of Paul's writings and the anti-semitism the church felt towards Jews. The only things that were done away with from Judaism were those things having to do with pointing to Christ as the Messiah and the festivals that shadowed his coming. This is not all of Judaism by far.
There is a rich heritage of festivals and celebrations that Christians are missing out on (myself included) and that the early Jewish Christians probably celebrated.

[Sarah]

exactly my point. Jews and Christians alike should observe these holidays. It says to in the Bible and I'll bet most ppl, if they followed their family tree back far enough, they'd find a jew. At one point Jews were not a minority. Anyone with a jewish ancestor can be considered part jewish.