A chance for GoO

[Nóm]

Hey guys,

Webmaster said that perhaps we could have GoO back (officially as a guild) if we do make GoO more about Tolkien.

So, I am thinking we could start some Tolkien threads in here, in addition to the non-Tolkien threads that we already have.

I know some of you already suggested this, so are we ready to start?

Now I have a lot of ideas but am not sure what you guys would want.

Some ideas I will toss out:

A thread for "I would like some more information on..."

In this thread people would post asking if there is more information (in other Tolkien books they have not read) on a topic, and those who are aware of such information could provide it.

Another idea (am guilty of being a Silmarillion and elf fanatic) I have is to open a Silmarillion thread that can sort of guide people through the book. Myself, and others who know The Silmarillion, could post a chapter summary every few days for example, including which of the ten zillion characters are vital enough that we should make a point of remembering who they are and we could ask eachother questions in it. I suggest this because a lot of people have a hard time due to the dense way it is written and the trillion names, and often their first reading is more of a chore.

Another idea is to take some of our favorite topics that we have seen in the book forums and open them here to get a purely Outcast view on it, and see how the discussion turns out.

Another idea would be to open up any thread we can think of, and then if we come up with something really cool (which we will!) we can go share it with the rest, over in the book forums.

And last but not least we could do somethng like a weekly Outcast, where once a week, for example, someone opens a thread on an outcast character.

Of course this is just some ideas, and we don't have to do it, and maybe you guys have some even better ideas.

I think it will be fun though.

One thing I really support in the book forums is informing people who want to know more about Middle-earth because there is much written about it in books that a lot of people have not read.

[YayGollum]

If we're still a guild (group of people with similar interests, I'd say. I shall continue to call this one of those. Whoops.) no matter where they put us, why should it matter um, where they put us? just wondering. oh well. Sure, I'd toss more Tolkien type topics into the mix anyways. just to have fun. Not to move this place anywhere special. It's not that huge of a deal to me. I do like the idea of getting the name changed to The Outcast Haven Tavern if we have to stay here. Anyways, sure, I am a fan of the ideas you wrote down, helpful Honorary Outcast Confusticated lady. I'm thinking that that "I would like some more information on..." type thread might die early, though. How is that The Sil. idea any different from what's already being done elsewhere? Or would the fact that it's being written by Outcasts for Outcasts just give it a much more enjoyable flavor? I like that idea.

[Nóm]

I guess you mean the chapter by chapter Silmarillion thing? Well, they were doing a chapter every 2 or 3 weeks which I think is kind of slow. But more importantly those discussions usualy ended up getting more advanced than a first time reader could do. The chapters usually discussed what happen later on in the book... the whole thing really isn't suited for new readers.

I think it would be different too, because it would GoO posting. We could do it here without having people turn the discussion into something in some HoME book that 8 or 9 out of 10 of us have not read. I guess it would be more like being guided through the book by others who know it very well. Also someone who knows the book really well could summarize the important points of each chapter. I don't know if anyone else would be interested in doing this though. I just know some people try to remember every single person and place name when they read The Silmarillion for the first time, and most memories (such as mine) can't handle that the first time.

I'd say it'll mainly be different because it will be designed to fit people who are just reading the book for the first time.

Posting about what we have just read is something that helps a lot of readers to remember what they read. I know it does for me, but not everyone.

I hope Webmaster will at the least, change the name of this place. If we end up havng to stay here and it continues to be the Forsaken Inn then no telling how many or what sort of threads could start popping up in here. So far there is nothing that says what this place is supposed to be for. But I guess most people will see GoO is here and start an Inn in the Green Dragon and not here.

I guess I sort of don't belong in GoO in that most of my favorite characters wouldn't be considered Outcasts. Unless you want to count the entire exiled Noldor as Outcasts since they did rebel against the Valar and get shut out of the Blessed Realm.... but I somehow suspect these heroic types aren't what you're looking for here.

[HobbitGirl]

Nonsense! Those heroic types are Outcasts too, in one way or another! You're either an Outcast or you're in denial! It's just Yay who doesn't like those "icky heroic types". ;)

I like that idea of taking a topic discussed elsewhere and putting an Outcast twist on it. *goes hunting for good topics*

I was going to start two Tolkien GOO threads, but my puter kicked the bucket on me! *fumes* Well, I'll just post different ones. Oh well.

*goes to work*

[Kailita]

Oh yes, these are good ideas! I'll admit that I haven't read the Sil, and it would really help to have people (especially Outcasted people) guiding me through it. :)

And throwing in original Outcast twists on other threads sounds like a go to me, too. I'm not much of an instigator, but if we can get some of this stuff going I'll jump right in! :)