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Ithrynluin
03-22-2004, 06:33 PM
Would you like PJ to make the film adaptation of this classic or not?

Barliman Butterbur
03-22-2004, 07:22 PM
Would you like PJ to make the film adaptation of this classic or not?

Just for the sake of continuity, I'd like to see PJ do the film. And it would give the anti-PJers something new to scream about. Although now that they know how he works, they could save their money (and their spleens) by not seeing it. On the other hand, if it looked like his becoming the likely director, they could form a world-wide internet organization to try and get him thrown off the project. ;)

Lotho

Saucy
03-22-2004, 07:46 PM
i say nobody should make a hobbit movie...why cant they learn to keep a good thing a good thing....the other books are already ruined for me :mad:

Turin
03-22-2004, 10:48 PM
I wouldn't want the Hobbit to be a movie, directed by PJ or anybody else. I like the way I imagine the Hobbit, as a mysterious story from my childhood. Some things are better left to one's imagination.

Barliman Butterbur
03-23-2004, 08:58 AM
...Some things are better left to one's imagination.

Exactly what they said about television when it first began to supplant radio!:)

Lotho

Barliman Butterbur
03-23-2004, 05:19 PM
I don't think the movie needs to be made peiod. If it must happen, I'd rather it be any decent director with a real desire to bring the book to film, than Peter Jackson... Let's see another entirely different one.

Great point! PJ's version is just that, and certainly not the definitive cinema take. (Make no mistake, I thoroughly enjoy 97.048% of it!) Oh, if I just had the money and the backing...;)

Lotho

Flame of Udûn
03-24-2004, 04:15 AM
the other books are already ruined for me :mad:I hate this line of argument. The books are exactly the same as when you first read them.

Elessar II
03-24-2004, 06:25 AM
As Lotho previously stated, I think I'd like to see the Hobbit made by PJ just for the sake of continuity. I think that if another director took on the Hobbit, the film would just take on an entirely different feel, and wouldn't really seem a part of the other three movies.

And for all you people who are against the film being made, period, I've got a brilliant idea! How 'bout you all simply stay home! :rolleyes:

Barliman Butterbur
03-24-2004, 11:48 AM
As Lotho previously stated, I think I'd like to see the Hobbit made by PJ just for the sake of continuity. I think that if another director took on the Hobbit, the film would just take on an entirely different feel, and wouldn't really seem a part of the other three movies.

And for all you people who are against the film being made, period, I've got a brilliant idea! How 'bout you all simply stay home! :rolleyes:

Let me hasten to add: I wouldn't mind seeing someone else's versions of LOTR and The Hobbit brought to the screen, someone who showed more fidelity to the books. PJ's version, I predict, will not be the only serious film version. But obviously no book can be brought to the screen without some sort of structural change at the very least.

Powersauce says that the movies "ruined the books" for her. Saucy, I think this is your own choice. You can decide to enjoy both books and movies — or not — that's up to you. That's a personal decision. But why think like that? You and others have somehow come to the notion that the differences between the two are somehow just too much to bridge, or that the differences in the movies are somehow an unforgivable affront to the books or to Tolkien, and this sets up a permanent antipathy to Jackson's movies — something that just isn't necessary, IMO. Why deprive yourself of a source of pleasure, when a simple choice of attitudes will make all the difference?

Lotho

faila
03-29-2004, 03:33 AM
i think pj would do a great job. and the PJ haters probobly woudlnt be able to yell that much because theh obbit would be easier...much more straightforward.

Sputterwall
04-01-2004, 05:29 AM
Let us all remember the version that DOES exist of the Hobbit. I would love to see a fully realized film of The Hobbit, which I always thought would happen before LOTR. I always thought that a film of LOTR was impossible when I read the books, but that The Hobbit could be made. I was absolutely sickened to watch the Rankin cartoon version with its theme song sung by Leonard Nimoy!!

I think PJ should indeed do the Hobbit as "prependix" to his LOTR movie, just to complete the full story with continuity of location and the same look and feel, as well as real continutity with Gollum, who is also pivotal in The Hobbit, and the ability to use the same actors for Gandalf and Elrond, though probably not Bilbo...

Not only that, but I anticipate other filmmakers will capitalize on the LOTR as a "formula" of sorts, and extract stories from the Silmarillion and other of Tolkien's books (like I have one with "Smith of Wootton Major" and "Farmer Giles of Ham"). Furthermore, I would just LOVE to see an updated adaptation of Harvard Lampoon's "Bored of the Rings." (don't hit me... please don't hit me)

33Peregrin
04-16-2004, 10:33 PM
I would want The Hobbit to be a movie, and to be made by PJ. It's simply that, I would rather have that than not have it. Sure, there might be some negative things about it, either way, but in the end, I'd rather it be a movie than not.
Don't get me wrong when I say this next thing, I love The Hobbit, I even 'read' it before I saw LOTR, and never then thought I would read LOTR... But there is nothing in The Hobbit that could really be ruined for me, as much as in LOTR. Out of all the changes in LOTR, the only one I could not stand was Frodo telling Sam to go home. There is nothing as important as that was to me in The Hobbit, so yes, I would want to see it be a movie. I love the LOTR movies.

HLGStrider
04-17-2004, 07:45 AM
Exactly what they said about television when it first began to supplant radio!:)

LothoIsn't it nice of Lotho to prove your point for you, Turin!

;)

Anyway, I voted for, I don't care just do a good job. Directors mean little to me. I'm not "steeped in film lore" (a phrase Carrie Fischer used to describe Lukas in an interview in front of my Star Wars which I just liked and decided to steal but still credit).

The Hobbit is smaller and less serious. It has actually been done as a children's play . . .I wanted to see the Oregon Children's Theater companies version about five years ago, but I didn't get around to it. . .didn't have a driver's license at 14 for one thing. When the movie comes out it will be easier to simply ignore if not what we wanted.

I understand a bit what Power means when she says it ruined the books, it's the images. They're huge. They get in your mind. They're hard to wipe out and they can supplant images that you'd worked up as right. It's annoying, but it happens. I had to go through years of mental practice to wipe out my bad animation Bilbo Baggins and Gollum, just from that little cartoon. It's a lot harder to hang on to my much different look for Aragorn once I've actually seen Mortensen in the part. I can still do it because most of my favorite scenes with Aragorn were not the one's included in the movie. . .But in other scenes the images are harder to ignore and it isn't the same anymore.

Ciryaher
04-18-2004, 05:23 AM
Seeing as The Hobbit was written differently than LotR, I think it would be most prudent, and most interesting, to have a different director. The Hobbit is more adventure, less suspense/horror/etc. PJ is a good director, but I think that the Hobbit would be best made like the Harry Potter movies...a movie that you can take young children and big kids (be they 19 or 91) to. PJ's LotR wasn't like that, and I'd like to see a different angle on the story.

Inderjit S
04-18-2004, 02:52 PM
Even though I don't like some of PJ's changes to the LOTR movies, I wouldn't mind him directing 'The Hobbit'. I don't think you could tamper with it as much as you could tamper with LoTR.

Snaga
04-19-2004, 12:11 PM
I wouldn't mind it being made by someone else, as long as they did a good job. However New Line will insist on Jackson, and as much continuity of cast as possible too. That way there is less risk to their cash flow.