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Arthur_Vandelay
04-18-2004, 04:51 AM
Would the makers of The Hobbit motion picture introduce a romantic sub-plot, and if so, which characters would it involve?

Saucy
04-18-2004, 04:56 AM
:confused: gd question...

HLGStrider
04-18-2004, 05:04 AM
Bard.


He's the obvious pick, the only character who I could really even try to get a crush on in that story, the one who ends up a king. The one who comes out of obscurity and becomes great. This man has plenty of chances to woo the woman he loves who he was once seperated from probably by the mayor of Laketown. The female would have to be invented, but either the mayor's rebelious daughter or some other obscure person who the mayor wants for himself.

33Peregrin
04-18-2004, 05:58 AM
Wow... that's a good question. I wonder if they could make Gollum have a love interest, besides the ring. Sorry... but he's on the calander on my desk, and it just made me wonder about that.

Elessar II
04-18-2004, 06:33 AM
Bard.


He's the obvious pick, the only character who I could really even try to get a crush on in that story, the one who ends up a king.

Ah, you are right (barring the crush).
Bard is really the only one who could possibly be weaved into a romantic sub-plot.
However, I highly doubt that the director of the Hobbit would be such an idiot that he would actually make up something like that. He (whoever he is)probably realizes by now that purists everywhere would call for his assassination. ;)

Arthur_Vandelay
04-18-2004, 10:42 AM
Ah, you are right (barring the crush).
Bard is really the only one who could possibly be weaved into a romantic sub-plot.
However, I highly doubt that the director of the Hobbit would be such an idiot that he would actually make up something like that. He (whoever he is)probably realizes by now that purists everywhere would call for his assassination. ;)

If the director is Oscar-winner PJ he might have some clout, but I wonder if the Hollywood studio system would really back a movie like this without a "love-interest" factor?

Hopefully, it would.

Inderjit S
04-18-2004, 01:35 PM
I don’t know Bard seems to be a little too sociopathic in ‘The Hobbit’ to be shacked up with a girl, and even though he eventually DOES get shacked up with a girl, it wouldn’t fit in the storyline for me, Bard, as the ostracized descendant of the former king of Dale, before it was completely buggered by the fat dragon from dragon-heart doesn’t seem like a good romantic interest, unless there were any girls in the lake-town who like the strong, silent and tedious type , which there may have been. Or they could change Bard into a high school jock who shoots the dragon to “impress the chicks” and they could replace the old silly talking thrush message with an e-mail from Thorin saying “shoot fat-boy in the chest, v. weak in that area, like your new shirt btw, makes you look snazzy!”

Maybe they could introduce a Mrs. Beorn? Or maybe they could introduce a travelling gypsy woman named Clara who follows Gandalf around due to some kind of beard-induced pseudo obsession? Maybe they could introduce some hirsute Dwarven ladies….or maybe not. Maybe they could look at the sacking of Dale, and show a scene whereby the last king of Dale and his queen are separated or whatever. Maybe they could just turn ‘The Hobbit’ into the move which epitomes the misogynist, patriarchal and anti-feminist atmosphere of ‘The Hobbit’ or rather to turn it into a target for radical feminists to criticize and to label Tolkien as a chauvinist . Maybe they could turn Gloin into a female dwarf, because as Tolkien says most people cannot tell the difference. Or they could have Arwen riding in and rescuing the good forces in the Battle of Five Armies instead of Beorn. Don’t know how that introduces a “love interest” but it sure makes things interesting for any teenage boys. Maybe they could introduce a Mrs Thranduil or maybe they could change the method of Bilbo’s escape to being helped by a Elven lady who has a fetish for men who are short, cute and have all powerful trinkets. Maybe introducing Orlando Bloom would be enough.

HLGStrider
04-19-2004, 04:20 AM
Well, shacking up wasn't what I had in mind. . .they are making this as a kid's type movie aren't they?

I see it done this way.

Bard is the generally mocked, not taken seriously fellow, give him a girl who believes in him. Have him added into one of the early scenes where the Laketowners are partying with the Dwarves, asking to accompany them but being turned down for some reason or making a suggestion that would be a good idea but is also mocked and turned down (Maybe we should fire proof our roofs?). Then have him slink away to stand on the docks looking meloncholy and have her come up behind him and say, "I believe in you, my darling. You'll prove them all wrong someday."

It could be done very well within the realms of the story. Just have a shot of her staring at him while he's being mocked once and you've got magic.

I could write it convincingly, for goodness sakes, and I don't do screenplays.

Capitan Pirata
04-21-2004, 11:59 PM
Absolutely not, if it *doesn´t exist in book*!!!!!!!

This is terrible, terrible change in a story, but people can´t realize. :confused:

Oh , "The Bobbit" is ony a project and look what we have :confused: :confused: so , prefer not to to know how The Bobbit will be

Sarah
04-22-2004, 02:19 AM
Ah, you are right (barring the crush).
Bard is really the only one who could possibly be weaved into a romantic sub-plot.
However, I highly doubt that the director of the Hobbit would be such an idiot that he would actually make up something like that. He (whoever he is)probably realizes by now that purists everywhere would call for his assassination. ;)

Ok, it's bard. So, now to make this fully believeable we have to have a great looking king-like actor so the girls may swoon. Christian Bale?