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[Mrs. Maggott]

Originally posted by Eriol
It did :).

I have a whole bunch of "crazy ideas for a better tournament", and one of them would be a "Supreme Court" of judges; if we had 10 judges pre-elected by reason of their skills, we could pick a number for each debate, regardless of Guild affiliation, and have much better judgments, in my opinion. If this idea is ever enforced, you should be the Chief Justice, Mrs. Maggott.

:)
You are very kind, but surely I am not the only person who views the matter in this way? If your judges are not going to be absolutely "simon-pure", then instead of judges, you should leave it to a popular vote among non-participating Guilds as to who won. You would still have the problem of "favoritism", but at least it would be spread out among so many people that it would probably all even out in the end and the side that made the strongest points would win.

[Beleg]

Thanks Lhun and Manveru!
You people are so great and provide me with the feeling of security and friendliness.
:D :D
I would like to thank all these people in this Guild; it is indeed very much like living in a real family. :p
Thanks all.

[Scatha]

Hi everyone, just a quick heads up on the situation with my computer. My HDD finally gave out its last breath and shall have to be replaced. Now this is sadly not something I can do overnight. :mad: So i'll be back as swiftly as I can.

[Mithrandread]

It's been over a week since I've been here, so I thought I'd check in. I've been quite busy preparing for next week. I have a bit of touching up to do on my report on Gandalf, then I'll be done!

Btw, happy birthday Beleg, and anyone else whom I may have missed!

I'll be back...:)

[Eriol]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel

I wish we had more of these in our Guild!

What do you say we have internal debates more often? I think I would enjoy an in-Guild debate much, much more. We could even use the current topics! I mean, not current as in "still opened", but as in "from the present tournament".

I really think that the best way to measure pure debating skill is "debating to and fro"; when the two teams swap positions after a while. It is also very fun :D. That's is probably an idea that will never be implemented, just as the "Supreme Court". But I can dream up some pretty strange ideas.

:)

Internal debates are also a great way for everybody to enjoy a friendly debate.

Oh, I'll give another belated happy birthday wish to Beleg, besides the one I just wrote on the Birthday thread :).

[Melian]

OH MY! I MISSED BELEG'S BIRTHDAY! BELEG, I WISH YOU HAPPINESS AND LOVE AND MAY EARENDIL SHINE UPON YOU!!!!

:D :D :D

[Nóm]

I heartily agree. What annoyed me is not the criticism of style, it is the blatant unfairness of "Eriol sank to an all-time low when he dismissed the GoO's arguments as emotional arguments" -- while the "emotional arguments" were simple rudeness (as admitted by GoO in the debate!!). They were being rude to me; I said this was an emotional argument. And I sank to an all-time low.
I admitted I was being rude to you early on in the debate.

The arguement you called emotional happened after that, and you said you were refering to my team-mates arguement.

So the rudeness of me is not what you called emotional, according to what you said in the debate.

This post of yours here is a perfect example of why I said I disagree with your style of debate.

It seems too deceptive to me... in short. Of course that doesn't make it wrong.... I just don't like it, especially when it is a topic from Tolkien's books.

But this bit I quote you on here, looks as though you are saying that my rudeness is the thing you called emotional. Yet in the debate you make very clear that you were refering to YayGollum's arguement. Is this not deceptive?

May be that all is fair, short of personal attacks, in a debate. Anyhow you did say GoO personally attacked you in the debate. I wonder where?

Someone pointed me to this thread, and if not for that I would never have known that either me or YayGollum, or both of us, were being accussed of personal attacks.

I think we at least deserve for you to show these attacks to the people you are making the claim to - GoT.

[Eriol]

Oh well. I decided to post this not on the Great Debates Matters' precisely because I didn't want to turn it into something public. You can be rude to me, Nóm, it is your right. I don't mind. I mind it when a judge says that I sank to an all-time low when I was restraining myself from answering in kind to your rudeness. "Emotional argument" is an expression denoting an argument which is emotional; just that. I don't see how it can be "an all-time low"; it would be good to explain the reason for that; but that's me.

What annoyed me was the constant rudeness. Do you really want me to dig for examples? This, I felt, was very unfriendly. I don't like unfriendly debates. And I was startled to see my behavior being criticized on account of an expression which simply denoted the argument itself.

Yes, I was being "deceptive", if you mean I was withholding what I truly wanted to say about your (not Yay's) rudeness. I try to be deceptive in these situations. It seems it's not worth it. Well, so be it.

The unfairness is the personal attack Snaga saw fit to make in a judging post. Not your rudeness. You have no obligation to like me, or to be impartial. But Snaga had.

I will avoid unfriendly debates in the future, as I said here. I will only take part in them if the Guild wants me. And I will no longer be deceptive.

[illuvator]

due to computer prob my friend beleg might be absent for some time.

[Mrs. Maggott]

Hopefully, Beleg's computer problems will be fixed in a fairly short time.

As for "liking" one another: I don't understand why animosity has to enter any of our dealings with one another. We are all interested in Tolkien which certainly gives us a common ground (even when we don't like the films!) and certainly, whatever disagreements do occur should not be to the degree that it extends into personal dislike. There may be people one likes better on the forum, but there should be no one that one actively dislikes. And, of course, the way to avoid being disliked is to always act toward the other person as you would wish that person to act towards you - a very old, but still relevant ethical principle.

That doesn't mean that one cannot engage in intellectual disputes, but if one looks at history, one will find that disputants don't have to be personal adversaries. However, history will also make clear that disputants who remain cordial are able to do so because they treat each other with respect despite their adversarial positions on certain issues!

I also ask my fellow forum members to also remember that our debates are in fact "institutional" in nature. Frequently, one finds oneself "defending" a position with which one personally disagrees. Therefore, how much more difficult should it be for such debates to degenerate into personal animosity! After all, I may actually agree with you!

Let us debate with passion and even with wit, sarcasm and verbal "blunt instruments" (regarding positions, NOT personalities) but let us always show respect for our adversaries and when the debate is over, whichever side wins, if everyone who has participated has acted in such a way it will insure good fellowship remains. I cannot imagine that the obvious intellectual accomplishments demonstrated by my fellow Plazarians preclude following such a simple method of preventing future unpleasantness. Can you?

[Eriol]

Originally posted by Mrs. Maggott
As for "liking" one another: I don't understand why animosity has to enter any of our dealings with one another. We are all interested in Tolkien which certainly gives us a common ground (even when we don't like the films!) and certainly, whatever disagreements do occur should not be to the degree that it extends into personal dislike.

Agreed, as usual, Mrs. Maggott. This was always my goal in the Forum. I don't like to dislike people. Being who I am, I'm sure that I will have forgotten about all this in some days. I'm not too worried about me disliking people, I know it is shortlived. And I can't do anything if people dislike me. If everybody would simply listen to people like you, Mrs. Maggott, it would be easier...

Let's hope Beleg gets a new computer or internet connection for his birthday :D.

[Mrs. Maggott]

I would like to relay a story (true) for those who wish to consider it:

Many years ago under the Soviet yoke, an Orthodox bishop was arrested, imprisoned and grieviously tortured by the head of the facility in which he was imprisoned. This relatively young man was a "good" Party member, but that did not save him when years later Stalin began a new purge and he was "denounced" for his "counter-revolutionary" thoughts. In his turn, the man was imprisoned and tortured even as he had tortured the Orthodox prelate. Eventually, he found himself in a large communal cell where he lay dying from the cruel treatment he had suffered.

As happens with many people when everything they believed on this earth turns out to be a cruel sham, this man turned to God and in his extremis he asked if any of his fellow prisoners was a priest so that he could confess his sins, receive absolution and die in the knowledge that he would enter the Kingdom of God. One of the men in the dark, stinking cell shuffled over to him and told him that he was in fact a priest. This elderly man heard his confession - all the horrible things he had done "for the Party and the State". When he was finished, the priest asked him if he repented of his wicked life and when the man replied that he did, gave him absolution and consigned his soul to Jesus Christ. However, before he could leave, the dying man grabbed the old priest's hand and said that of all his evil deeds, he regretted most not being able to beg the forgiveness of the bishop he had tortured so long ago, but, alas, by now the man must be dead. "Do you think he would have forgiven me, Father?" the man asked tremulously. The other man leaned close to the dying man, kissed him gently and said, "My son, I forgave you long ago!" For indeed, the "priest" who had heard his confession and given him absolution was none other than the bishop he had treated so evilly years before.

If we were to know that someone we "disliked" were dying or in great pain, how quickly would we forget our silly pettiness and embrace that person hoping to somehow intercede on his or her behalf! How often we miss the opportunity to be kind, to forgive, to say a good word or do a good deed! And how when life is ending do we regret so bitterly each and every missed opportunity! My fellow members, nothing is so useless or painful than regret. I beg you all to live your lives as if the person with whom you "speak" today may in fact not be here tomorrow. That way, you will never regret having not said "I'm sorry, will you forgive me?".

[ILLOTRTM]

(My apologies for my own inactivityin the guild, but I'm pretty new here, so I'm still sort of getting used to the place. Once I get some time I WILL be an active member in this guild. Just responding to Lhunithiliel's post.... )

[Beleg]

Your latter guess is better, Eriol! :)
Words of Wisdom, Mrs. Maggot!
Regretfully, my networking is still a bit patchy, so I mightn't be around consistantly.
Thanks Y'all.
Waiting for the tests!

[Lhunithiliel]

Beleg, my friend, are you saying that you have got a new computer for your birthday? Congratulations then! :D

We'll expect to see you as often as usually!
Besides.....a new Debating round is coming! ;) :D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Beleg

Waiting for the tests!
Yeah,TESTS!I wonder when Lhun will finally pass the Expert Level?!!:rolleyes:

[Finduilas]

I suggest we give her the Master test...no Experts for Her...;)
:p :D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
I suggest we give her the Master test...no Experts for Her...;)
:p :D
Oooooo that's impossible.We can't make her do the Expert Level,and you are talking about Master Level.But as a matter of fact I'm thinking of applying for Expert Level probably in November or in the end of October.;)

[Finduilas]

Ohhhhh!! :D
Come,baby,Come!!! ;):D

Can I give him the test, Miss?! Please!! :D

[Khôr’nagan]

Can I take the test? I'd like to apply for Senior Journeyman - I'll probably try for Expert in a month (I haven't read the book with Tolkien's Letters yet). So, can I take the Senior Journeyman test?

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Ohhhhh!! :D
Come,baby,Come!!! ;):D

Can I give him the test, Miss?! Please!! :D
Not yet my dear sis!I said in November or in the end of October!Not now!;)

[Lhunithiliel]

No, G-G!!:eek:
It is ready!

See this (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12976) :D

[Gil-Galad]

I meant I don't have enough knowledge to pass it right now.But by the end of October I will have finished BOLT1,2 and probably some of the Letters.

[Manveru]

My first rank... Journeyman... I guess I have to read those UT to claim higher (I made mistakes mainly in those questions:(). As Andrzej Sapkowski (AS--the ace of Polish Fantasy;)) says: "Read, read, not only RPG and video.":D

[Lhunithiliel]

I think this activity will attract those who like unleashing their fantasy to no limits...But we also shall have to have in mind the true information coming from the books...which means ...study :D
I like it! :D

I think that it will be an elegant way to make us look through the books :p and I expect it to be fun.


I also think to place this activity into the Glittering Caves.
Therefore, I'll open there a thread - smth. like in the Noldorin Forge - for new suggestions in that specific creative forum.

All right? :)

[Beleg]

I am sorry for not participating really actively but I have been a tad ill not to mention found a treasure trove of pleasure in the form of Anne of Green Gables series.


Oh and on the Journey Man test, the answer to the Question about Tom Bombadill seems a bit *****. Option A is almost as correct as Option B.

[Eriol]

I think both answers are correct, since both are given as reasons for the Council's choice. I pm'd Beorn about it.

Have a quick recovery Beleg :).

[Gil-Galad]

I hope you'll get better soon,my dear Beleg!
Cheer up!:p

[Finduilas]

Happy New Avatar, Lhun!!! :D
It's better even than the previous one...but no actually how can something perfect be perfected...:D:D
Now, seriously, it's great! I wonder how we will continue to catch up with you...:rolleyes:

[Beleg]

Yeah, Lhun's new avatar is the scarriest ever I have seen!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Is any record which shows which people have taken the test kept?

[Lhunithiliel]

Hehehe..."scary"... I find it attractive, my friend ;) :)

Anyway, I wanted to share with you a piece of news that concerns our Guild too and quite a lot of its members.
Please, read this (http://www.thetolkienwiki.org/wiki.cgi?MessageBoard)

This site, as maybe most of you know, has hosted many of the research - study endeavours of some of our guild-mates, especially those involved in the "Lecture hall, the "Study" and the Gallery of Characters".

So, I'm thinking that it could be a good incentive for our future work. Don't you?

[Gil-Galad]

Nice pic,Lhun;) .
I read the thing you wanted to show us and I agree.What more can say?

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Nice pic,Lhun;) .
I read the thing you wanted to show us and I agree.What more can say?
That you're going to participate in the future activities and that you will soon implement your new ideas .... :p :p :p :D

Thanks for the avatar! :)

[Lhunithiliel]

HAPPY , HAPPY BIRTHDAY, RIO!!!

All the very best for the very best !!! ;) :D :D :D

We are happy to have you here with us and we hope you're too! :p

this is for you to bring a smile on your face! (http://www.fun4birthdays.com/jokes/bires_humorousquotes.html)

[Manveru]

BEST WISHES FOR THE BEST SAILOR EVER!!

May the winds of Your life always favour You... Wherever You sail... and that You always find a friendly shore...

Like beer? I bet You do.;)
Here's a little sth from me... HAPPY BIRTDAY, MAN!!:D:D

[Finduilas]

Happy, Happy Birthday, Eriol!!!
:)
Have a wonderful one!!!

[Eriol]

Aw, thanks guys!

:)

Thanks for the jokes, and the pint ;), and for everything else, including something that I probably overlooked...

;)

[Gil-Galad]

HOHOHOHO...............
You are getting older with anothe year Eriol!
Happy Birthday,my friend!

And be careful with the amount of alcohol you are going to drink ;)

[Melian]

Oh! I missed the evnt again!!!

Happy (Delayed) Birthday, Eriol!!!!


And another thing:
Gil-Galad sets out today on a journey....He moves to study in Belgium.
May the blessings of all fair kins in Middle-earth be with him!
May he hold to his purpose and never forget us!

[Manveru]

Good luck G-G!!!

Tread Your new path firmly...

:D

[Hirila]

What a lucky boy you are, Gil-Galad!
Moving to another town, another country seems so cool.

Gil-Galad: I hope you read this: Don't think it is easy to start a new life somewhere else where you don't know the people and their habits and where you possibly have to speak a foreign language all the time. Don't think you will like it from the very beginning. Oh no. It takes time to learn about all that. But then, and hopefully in a very short space of time, you will learn to appreciate your new life.

I have moved to San Francisco only a week ago. And I come from a quiet little town in the South of Germany. And it was hell! I felt terrible, alone, noone to talk to, no friends, the city so big and strange and everything so different. Let me give you good advice, and that's for free: try to give your life a routine. That's the way to settle yourself in a new place. And you will see: you can find new friends quite easily.

But perhaps you don't need that advice. I dearly hope you are one of those persons who settle down easily in a new place and are likely to adapt to a new life in a short time. My congratulations: moving to another country is the best way to find your own personal way of living. The best way to find yourself.

[Eriol]

Thanks for the birthday wishes, G-G and Melian...

:)

I'll be away from the 12th to the 21st. Take care!

;)

[Lhunithiliel]

I knew you'd succeed !
I knew it, G-G!
I JUST KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Good luck!
**********

Hirila, tell us more of SF. It'll be nice! :)

[Manveru]

Hey Nazgul-guy! It's Your day today...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLACK CAPTAIN!!

Let the Dark Side of the Force be with YOU!;)

:D:D:D

[Melian]

(That sounded like a Star Wars greeting, man! We are Tolkienolgists here!!!!)

Happy Birthday, Captain!
Arwen sends you kisses and Mr. Maggot has promised some mushrooms to make A Mushroom Birthday Party!

[Lhunithiliel]

Oh, My Captain,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

Let "our Master " favour you ever more! ;) :D

[Hirila]

Mushrooms! Mushroomsmushroomsmushrooms... ahemm.. ahm.. sorry for that. But I simply love mushrooms! As soup, in a salad, fried and steamed, ins sauce with noodles, rice, meat... whatever. I could think of thousand ways to do eat mushrooms if I only had the time for it.

You want to hear of San Francisco? Well, there's not much to tell. Compared to any major European city, Paris, London, Berlin, you cannot compare it. It is completely different. It is American. But then not the cliché Yuppie-American you can see in New York, not the cliché diplomat-American in Washington, not the cliché countryside-American from somewhere in Texas. It is a city with many cultures. American, European, Asian, hetero and gay, Yuppie and Hippie, residents and tourists. Just a mixture of everything flavoured with a good amount of bustle. Got it? No? That's okay, I don't get it either. But I will try to do so. I've got another 29 weeks left.

[Beleg]

Erm, what is 'yuippie'?

Question: Is falling in love good? :confused:

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Beleg
Erm, what is 'yuippie'?

Question: Is falling in love good? :confused:
Can it be bad? :confused: :confused:

And yuppie is a young city or suburban resident with a well-paid professional job and an affluent lifestyle (it's informal;))

:D

[Celebthôl]

Findi asked me to tell you guys that her internet is acting slow, and she can't post, but that she will be posting again ASAP. . . she hopes.

[Manveru]

So here lies the problem... Findi, I hope it'll be fixed soon.;) But what about others? Where are you guys? Kinda gloomy out here... no one around... oh! well, maybe it's just me (don't pay attention to this;)).
Originally posted by Melian:
(That sounded like a Star Wars greeting, man! We are Tolkienolgists here!!!!)
I know, I know... How could I forget;)

BTW: Don't you like Star Wars, my lovely Maia?

:D

[Melian]

Yeah, I do..kinda.
Darth Vader called me the other day,you know,he's such a bore!!:)

[Gil-Galad]

Hello from Belgium!For sometime I'll not be very active cause I've got to get use to my new home and to start my new academic programme.I'll be right back after a few days.

[Manveru]

Hoho... look who's back:D:D
Originally posted by Gil-Galad:
For sometime I'll not be very active cause I've got to get use to my new home and to start my new academic programme.I'll be right back after a few days.
It's understandable... take your time (it's usually no good in being hasty;)).

[Finduilas]

I'm sorry I haven't been active for some time but my Internet has been impossible and I couldn't post.I hope it will get better.

Yes, our lovely GG has set away...:(
Good luck with everything you take up and don't forget to come back.
We will wait for you whenever that would be.

And, yes, Hirila I too think, no, I am sure that he will adjust easily.I have had the honour to know him ( and still do) and from the many spent hours with him, I realized how much I appreciate and respect him as well as love, because he is the brother I have never had. And he helped and advised me, he showed me his personallity. And I just have to say that he is the person (one of the few) for whom I can certainly say that has found his own individuallity. Because I really admire and respect him for what he is.
That's how I feel it and I am really sorry I haven't said it to him yet. I hope he reads it when he comes back again.
Good luck and have a nice life!

I also want to wish a delayed happy birthday to Black Captain and wish him all the best.
And to tell Beleg that falling in love is sometimes awful. But that depends. Love is really subjective.

I'm posting from an Internet cafe and I may not be active in the next days...

[Melian]

Don't worry, dear!
Keep your head up,you've done an excellent job so far! And good luck with the new school year!
Can I expect a call from you?(And Maveru's interview, pls!!! Urgently!;) )

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Finduilas:
And to tell Beleg that falling in love is sometimes awful. But that depends. Love is really subjective.
Sounds like a broken heart...:( Keep the faith, sis...

Yeah. I guess love is sometimes a 'strange' phenomenon:

Too much love will kill you
It'll make your life a lie
Yes, too much love will kill you
And you won't understand why
You'd give your life, you'd sell your soul
But here it comes again
Too much love will kill you
In the end... ("Too much love will kill you" by Queen)
Originally posted by Melian:
(And Maveru's interview, pls!!! Urgently!;) )
Oh! my...
*blushing*;)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
I'm sorry I haven't been active for some time but my Internet has been impossible and I couldn't post.I hope it will get better.

Yes, our lovely GG has set away...:(
Good luck with everything you take up and don't forget to come back.
We will wait for you whenever that would be.

And, yes, Hirila I too think, no, I am sure that he will adjust easily.I have had the honour to know him ( and still do) and from the many spent hours with him, I realized how much I appreciate and respect him as well as love, because he is the brother I have never had. And he helped and advised me, he showed me his personallity. And I just have to say that he is the person (one of the few) for whom I can certainly say that has found his own individuallity. Because I really admire and respect him for what he is.
That's how I feel it and I am really sorry I haven't said it to him yet. I hope he reads it when he comes back again.
Good luck and have a nice life!

I also want to wish a delayed happy birthday to Black Captain and wish him all the best.
And to tell Beleg that falling in love is sometimes awful. But that depends. Love is really subjective.

I'm posting from an Internet cafe and I may not be active in the next days...

Thank you very much Findi!You don't know what does your wrods mean to me.Thank you!You are my only sis!Qnd I'll be back in december for the holidays qnd we'll spend a grea time together!

I'm back now!I moved to my new place and enrolled at my university and now I have all the time I want and I will be HERE ,with you my friends!

[Melian]

Agh!!! There's no thank you for me, eh????:( :D
I'll try to ignore that! You disappoint me, GG!!!
Anyway, we really feel your lack and we want you back!!! But, of course, fulfilling your dream is more important, so go ahead, we are with you!!!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Melian
Agh!!! There's no thank you for me, eh????:( :D
I'll try to ignore that! You disappoint me, GG!!!
Anyway, we really feel your lack and we want you back!!! But, of course, fulfilling your dream is more important, so go ahead, we are with you!!!
Come on!How can I forget you?!!?
How can I forget the person who always knows how to make me angry?!?

Hey,Beleg,listen to me:Falling in love is probably the greatest expirience you can have during your entire life!!!!

[Lhunithiliel]

Hi, everyone! :)

I received a PM from our soldier - gate7ole!

He's fine and he's sending you all his greetings! He misses us there in the Army...but he's doing OK.
I don't know about you, guys, but I miss him a lot! :(

Gate, whenever you come back here, know that you are ALWAYS WELCOME!!!!!

**********

BTW, this is my post 2222!
How very "wraith-ish" ;) :D !!!!!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Hi, everyone! :)

I received a PM from our soldier - gate7ole!

He's fine and he's sending you all his greetings! He misses us there in the Army...but he's doing OK.
I don't know about you, guys, but I miss him a lot! :(

Gate, whenever you come back here, know that you are ALWAYS WELCOME!!!!!

**********

BTW, this is my post 2222!
How very "wraith-ish" ;) :D !!!!!
GreetZZZZZ for Gate!We miss him too!But do you know when he will be back?:confused:

[Finduilas]

Thanks you so much, Lhun!!!!

AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR 2222 POST!!! ;) :D :D :D

Oh, and GG I can't wait until your return!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Thanks you so much, Lhun!!!!

AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR 2222 POST!!! ;) :D :D :D

Oh, and GG I can't wait until your return!
Me too!I'll be back in Bulgaria in December for the Christmas Holidays and we'll have a great time together!

[Hirila]

Gate7ole... who's that? (Just kidding)
But to tell the truth I almost forgot about him. I'm so sorry. Can it be that we forget about our best members so fast??? That's really sad, if you ask me.

Is there no way he can manage to tell us a bit about his army-experience?
I'd also like to know how GG is doing in Belgium. I've never been there, though it is not that far from my home.

BTW: Can it be that you start feeling at home in a completely different country, culture and language after only three weeks? I've now been to the US and San Francisco for three weeks and though I didn't stop missing my beloved ones at home I don't feel so lost as in the beginning.
It is amazing how adaptable we humans are.

[Gil-Galad]

ok,everybody asks me about Belgium.
I'm in one of the most beautiful towns of Belgium -Leuven.It is a town with about 100 000 people population and about 30 000 are students which is great fun.
The climate there is not very pleasant cause it rains almost every day,but the winter is softer than in Bulgaria for example.One of the problems I face here is that I miss the sun,it's not so sunny as in Bulgaria.
The university is something enormous with faculties all over the town.It is the oldest Belgian university established in 1425.
Having in mind that there are about 30 000 students and that in Belgium there are about 536 kinds of beer,you can imagine what all students are doing everyday.
And it is true,for the 12 days I've been here every night there are parties,raves etc..... every night I enjoy myself here.I started even wondering "What am I doing here?Studying or drinking?"But I must confess that the Belgians are very bad drinkers in comparison with us,the Bulgarians.
In Leuven there are students from 120 nationalities so it is easier to find somebody from China,Spain,Italy or wherever you want than to find somebody from Belgium.Thus many differen cultures meet here and especially different national meals (I love eating delicious things)!
Of course I miss Bulgaria very much.I miss the parties in Bulgaria,the atmosphere there,my friends,Finduilas,and some typical Bulgarian meals.
But you know,my ambitions are too big and there is no place for santimental thoughts.

[Lhunithiliel]

PLEASE, ALL READ

THIS (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13264)

[Gil-Galad]

I hope that the new applicants won't find the rules too complicated.The only thing they should do is to participate actively.;)

[Hirila]

I think it is an easy rule.
It doesn't mean for the newbies to go and walk over hot coal. It only demands to do what they are here for: actively participate. That we make this one-month-testing-rule only shows, that we care for active membership.

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Hirila
I think it is an easy rule.
It doesn't mean for the newbies to go and walk over hot coal. It only demands to do what they are here for: actively participate. That we make this one-month-testing-rule only shows, that we care for active membership.
Yeah,some times ago some members joined the Guild,participated a couple of weeks and then just nothing.I believe that's a good way for changing the things.

[Gil-Galad]

I would like to ask you to give your opinion here:
http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13296
Thank you!:p

[Starflower]

a comment

I am a "newbie", and some of the goings on in the Guild seem a bit intimidating, essays and debates and lectures and what not... I was wondering, would it be feasible to have something simple for new/possible members to join in with .... Myself, I love to participate in discussions, if it's about anything I know something about, but I can't see myself making any contribution towards essays or stories ... should that exclude me from Guild activities ?

Starflower

[Beleg]

a comment

I am a "newbie", and some of the goings on in the Guild seem a bit intimidating, essays and debates and lectures and what not... I was wondering, would it be feasible to have something simple for new/possible members to join in with .... Myself, I love to participate in discussions, if it's about anything I know something about, but I can't see myself making any contribution towards essays or stories ... should that exclude me from Guild activities ?

Starflower

Well Auntie Starflower, you can participate in debates which are easy and fun and also informative. :) You can also participate in active threads within the guild, just go the Noldorin Forge and plunge into the most recent discussion going on there.
Then you can do some simple research work for the study team, just research some character, some event etc.
But I was ask you to participate in debates and active threads, they are both fun and informative and do take part in the Guild Trivia and Event Game!!! They need enthusiastic participants!

[Gil-Galad]

Hey Starflower,we'll be glad if join our team for the Debate Torunament!I think th

[Gil-Galad]

Hey Starflower,we'll be glad if join our team for the Debate Torunament!I think that you can participate in Round 9 or 10 in you want!
And also the essays are not so difficult,and also I've noticed that your posts are always flawless!You can do it!
Hey,and there is an interesting discussion in The Noldorin Forge about the Dunedain!

[Manveru]

Starflower...
As a little more experienced "newbie"... (wow, it sounds funny;)... hey, don't laugh... I'm trying to be serious here:D--OMG, now I "lost" my thought... where was I? Ah...:D)

I think it's time to "revive" one of an old threads (it was a very good idea by samjor, then Anamatar IV took over his project... but since June there hasn't been any further interest in it:(). I'm talking about Enlist Here For Newbie Education Activity (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10843). I guess it might prove useful nowadays (concerning that "one-month-testing-period-thing"). I remember (yeah, right...:rolleyes: I've checked it to be sure;)) I was willing to participate, but it was somehow abandoned and... I (and other members, too, I guess) forgot about it.

So... maybe it's a good time to "remind" everyone of this thread (if my "reminder" seems too 'improper' for you all... just ignore it or you can throw sth heavy at me (not a chance:pI'm flying too high:D), but... 'acceptance' would be appreciated;)).

THX for reading this.

*flies away, climbing higher and higher, just in case someone would like to try that throw anyway*;)

[Lhunithiliel]

Ah... the Newby Education!:rolleyes:
Well, blue-winged angel, you'll be the next in the line to start revive this activity... in fact - to start it ...perhaps!
Give it a try!

However, I would VERY KINDLY (you know how kind wraiths can be! :p ) ASK you to use the threads in the Guild according to their purpose and content. I mean...when you have something to say concernint the Guilds's activities, just go the the respective thread in the respective sub-forum and post it there.

The present thread is called "Happenings in the Guild".....and I understand it as the place where important news and announcements should be posted. All other comments and discussions should find their place elsewhere. .... There are enough threads for every and all kind of talk!

This morning I have provided another one - please read and use (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13317) :) :) :)

[Melian]

Not that it's much of a Happening---but today i changed my whereabouts---I already live and study in Sofia...I gues my Archaeology career starts right now.

[Manveru]

Not much of a Happening?:eek:
Well, if that wraith is going to turn this down, I think I'm going to try how my fiery sword matches her shadowy cloak;) (just kidding, boss...*peace*:D).
Originally posted by Melian:
I gues my Archaeology career starts right now.
Alllll righty then... Mr. Zahi Hawas... pack your bags:p Miss Croft... beware--> there goes another 'Tomb Raider';):D

[Gil-Galad]

Congratulations Melian!!!!
I hope some day you'll make your great excavation and find something unique!Why not my body,the body of the last High King?!;) :p

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Manveru
Not much of a Happening?:eek:
Well, if that wraith is going to turn this down, I think I'm going to try how my fiery sword matches her shadowy cloak;)
Ha! You - creature of light, you don't really believe only my cloak is the thing to fear! (listen to my laugh! :D)

Oooooo, Maia Queen..... coooome to meeee..... I'll be waiting for you in the worlds of the shadows from the ancient past .... ;) :D

*********

Enough of RP!
Mel, good luck!

[Melian]

Thanks everybody!!!
I appreciate your support.
And Lhun,we all know that beneath your cruel surface there's a soft and tender heart. I heard it through the grapevine that a wraith of your kind gets very mellow when listening to Sting---some blond guy that always chants of lost loves and stuff.:)

[Gil-Galad]

Mel,I think that Lhun actually is very different wraith.A wraith with a great heart always ready to help us and lead us!
That is why we all love her!She the model for the perfect wraith!;) :p :p :D

[Lhunithiliel]

Ah, you flatterers! :D

Anyway ... You cannot move my cold heart unless you take a look at the "Study" and the "Semianrs" in the Noldorin Forge!
Haven't you people noticed what is going on there? :eek:

***flys away to listen to some of Sting*** ;)

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel:
***flys away to listen to some of Sting*** ;)
Good call, boss... Ah! those Fields of Gold... they remind me of...

But it's not the reason I've abandonded the azure of my boundless prison. I'd like to announce sth. Here it is:

My mind has been (and still is;)) so totally enchanted lately that, when deciding to take part in the forthcoming debate, I forgot to death that I'll be away for two days (starting this Monday) without access to the internet (silly arch, silly...). I'm really sorry, no harm meant. Maybe this announcement is not really necessary, 'cos I saw Maedhros asked about a few days 'break' (due to their late last debate...). I'll be back home from my little Road Trip on Tuesday evening, so I guess I won't miss too much (if anything at all;)). Hope to remain in the team. Go GoT!!

So... see ya on Tuesday!

[Gil-Galad]

I think there is no problem,Manveru!As I can see the debate will not start in the following 2 days,so don't worry.Or if it starts,I know that Lhun,Beleg and Eriol,can debate in the best possible way!!
GOOD LUCK GOT!!!

[Melian]

Good luck!
Enchanted, eh, ike? By whom, I wonder???

Everybody, i'd like to make a silly announcement ( but important for me): my firts diggings will take place this summer!!!!! Yes! Yes! Yes!

[Gil-Galad]

Be careful,cause my sweet elven bones could be there!!;)

[Manveru]

Just as I promised... I'm back and ready to work... not now, of course;). I'm little tired and it's like nearly 1.00 a.m. here in Poland. I must get some sleep first and then... you know me, I'm a 'wacko'... see ya in a few hours (it should be enough;)).

I'm glad I'm back!:D

[Lhunithiliel]

Welcome back, Angel from the blue heavens! :D

You have missed nothing... so get some sleep and look at the Debates-section where you'll find about Round 8 .

I REALLY would VERY MUCH appreciate is our Team could gather tonight on an msn-meeting and discuss the topic.... Well, it will be evening for me and Manveru, night for Beleg and midday for Eri...

Shall we arrange that meeting?

[Beleg]

Yes, but please not after 5 GMT, then it would be very difficult for me to attend.

[Manveru]

5 a.m. or p.m. GMT? (sorry for that silly question... maybe I'm kinda sleepy... still;)).
For me the best time would be after 10 p.m. GMT--as long as evening is concerned (that's 11 p.m. here in my country... midnight for our wraith--perfect time for a little 'soul-hounting';); for Beleg it could be a problem--if I count well enough it would be 4 a.m.:( and Eriol... I guess 7 p.m.). So, any suggestions. I don't have much tight schedule these days, but I'm usually online in the morning (Polish time;)) and in the evening (then my sis is either at work or sleeps tight;)). She occupies the comp from the late afternoon till late evening (she's a freak, but I can try and bribe her somehow... to sit for an hour... maybe;)). Tough luck with those timezones...

Oh, I remembered sth... very often when I'm online I see you (I mean Lhun, Beleg and Eriol) are online, too. So maybe it's not that hard to 'pick' a time, right?

[Beleg]

I could have stayed up till 8 GMT PM but I have had a small attack of Malaria and Doctor has ordered me to go to sleep early every evening. :(
I am online now, I will get offline in an hour, and then for four or five hours I wont get online. I can be online from 3 GMT PM to 5 GMT PM today.

I was hoping for a geopolitical topic but guess this too is an interesting one. :)

Welcome Back, 'Angel!' :p ;)

[Eriol]

I was away too, arrived today at dawn :eek:. Just a figure of speech ;).

I'll be on MSN in about 2 and a half hours; I'll try to meet someone then.

Now I suppose I'll take a look at the topic.

:eek:

;)

[Beleg]

I'll be on MSN in about 2 and a half hours; I'll try to meet someone then.

You'll hopefully find me!

[Finduilas]

Just want to ask if i have missed something?
Because there are so many threads...:rolleyes:

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Just want to ask if i have missed something?
Because there are so many threads...:rolleyes:
First of all I'm glad you're back Findi!!!I missed you so much but you know sometimes everything depends on computers.Yeah,you missed some interesting things.You can check the Hall of Lectures,there are some new topics and also the The Hall of Essays has some new interesting topics,like writing about the last thoughts of the High Kings!!
Welcome back!

[Anamatar IV]

http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13460

It's been fun you guys. Thanks for teaching me so much I never knew about Tolkien.:)

[Gil-Galad]

NO ANT!!!
WHY,MAN?TELL US WHY? Don't leave us,we'll miss you so much!!!Please Ant...........



HEY?WE SHOUDN'T LET HIM GO!!!!!!COME ON GUYS!!!!!LET'S MAKE HIM STAY!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Lhunithiliel]

......Matar..... That's not fair! !!!!!
I get up this morning, I put on my slippers, I make my coffee, I sit in front of the computer, I open the forum and.........WHAT do I see?????????:eek: Matar's saying goodbye to all of us....!
NOT FAIR !!!! How could you make me sad so early in the morning!!!!!

I wish you all the best, Oh,king with the wrong name ;) :p.... I wish one day when you're fed up with reality, you'll look again for the Tolkien books that you have now thrown in the deepest dark of your closet somewhere ...and then.... come and pay us a visit.... perhaps we'll still be here.... 'Cause we are just such hopeless fools as to be unable to leave the world of fantasy.....

Good and successful trip in your life, friend! :)

[Gil-Galad]

It seem that our belovd king has taken his final decision...........:( :(
Farewell Ant,I hope we'll meet again,somwhere in the forum our in the web!!!!
Farewell,my friend!!!

[Finduilas]

Lol! :(

Farewell, Ant! It was a pleasure to know you even not so well!
:(

[Beleg]

I'll Quote Anamatar's threadlink,
http://www.thetolkienforum.com/show...;threadid=13460

Right now I feel burdened with many things, my personal health is not great, my exams are looming, I might also face some family problems, we have to change the house, the health of my mother is falling dangerously. Some how or the other these things have made me get tired of Tolkien discussions; for the moment, I really don't think that I am enjoying them as much as I aught to do.
I have decided to take a break from serious Tolkien work and rest and maybe when [hopefully] most of my problems are sorted out I'll come back; but if for some reason it doesn't happen then this is the ta-ta.

On a side note: I like all the folks in this Guild, even those I had problems and quarells with. You won't believe it but sometimes it was really a lot of fun going through the threads.
I would like to thank Lhun who if nothing else is a very devoted Tolkien fan and If I may be allowed to be so impertinent sometimes get a bit too over zealous. But I respect her for her love for the great man and his works. I am sorry for all the problems I caused, [The deleting of posts from that Arnor thread was a somewhat brash move] and would like to thank you all again.
Eriol, whom I respect very greatly, and Finduilas and Manveru, two very likeble personalities and Gil-galad and the others; I had problems sometimes but I still had a 'rolicking' time and that ballanced it.

I will still be on MSN sometimes if someone cares to have a chat. I will try visiting the forum once a month.

Thanks all and sorry for not helping in the current debate.

I hope I'll have a spot left for me if I am back. :)

[Manveru]

Allll righty then... sth is really not good here... sb, pls, pinch me... cause I think I'm dreaming (and I don't like this nightmare...at all).

Beleg, my bro, I don't even want to try and convince you ('cause I see that all is decided already:(), so... I wish you ALL THE BEST in life. Keep the faith, everything's gonna be alright, you'll see. (Now I see why you urged me so much to take part in this debate;)--gosh, I tried to be serious--I guess I can't be... sorry for that, but my mind hasn't received that sad message yet--and it's still struggling not to... you were the first person who helped me to 'tread' on these boards... who's gonna correct my 'gaffes' now?;):D).
Originally posted by Beleg:
I hope I'll have a spot left for me if I am back. :)
I'll save you a seat, bro... just in case;).

[Gil-Galad]

I can't believe on my eyes!What is happenning to the Guild?What's happenning with you Beleg?Why ,man?
What can I say?!The Guild will not be the same without you.Nothing will be without you my friend!Once I asked you to reconsider your opinion-some time ago-and I would very much like to do it again,but I don't have that right.
I'm really shocked and depressed my friend!!!
I will miss you so much.Farewell Beleg,I hope we will meet soon in the Guild again,I hope that you'll be back some day,bro......... :( :( :(

[Finduilas]

OMG! Ant, Beleg...not a good year for the forum too I guess!
So many great minds joined and now leave...:(

Anyway, good luck to you, friends! And I hope you two have nice lives because you deserve it.

[Lhunithiliel]

Beleg, I hope your life gets better!
I wish all the best to your mom and to you and I truly hope everything will be just fine very very soon! I wish it with all my heart!
I'll keep your place within the Guild. You deserve it!

From me - a nothing more than just a Tolkien enthusiast.

[Eriol]

You'd have my bow, and my axe, Beleg, if I had any of these... the best I can offer you is my prayers.

Get healthy, get your problems solved, and get back soon...

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Eriol
You'd have my bow, and my axe, Beleg, if I had any of these... the best I can offer you is my prayers.

Get healthy, get your problems solved, and get back soon...
And you have my spear Beleg!!!!Just say if there is anything we can do for you!:(

[Finduilas]

Hello and goodbye, friends.
I have to leave you, too. :(
It's not that I don't like you, nay! I love you all!!! :(
But it seems to affect my everyday and school life. Since I returned here I had to read many lectures and essays...much work. But the work at school is much too and my marks are getting lower. I can feel I have to quit something and unfortunately, this can't be school . :(
My parents are unsatisfied and so am I. :(

I'm sorry. You gave me one of my best moments and I will always remember this place. And the people too of course. Great people and a great Mom. :)
Keep the Tolkienologist spirit. Thank you for being here, friends.

Goodbye and good luck.

[Gil-Galad]

No,no,no,no,no,my sis,you are not going to do that to me!!!!NOOOOOO PLEASE!I can't believe it!!!! Ok,you can be online so often but still to be online!!!!Findi what will I do without you?!!!!:( :( :( :(

[Finduilas]

I'm sorry.:( I don't want to do any harm to you or to any other person here, but I'm sorry.:(
I'll still in MSN and GG I will still talk with you there. I also may come here to read some essays and to see some debates if I have time.
Thanks for everything, anyway.:(

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
I'm sorry.:( I don't want to do any harm to you or to any other person here, but I'm sorry.:(
I'll still in MSN and GG I will still talk with you there. I also may come here to read some essays and to see some debates if I have time.
Thanks for everything, anyway.:(
I just can say...................I'll miss you my beloved sister........I truly hope you'll be back some day....................................:( :( :(

Why don't we have crying faces!!!!I want all the crying faces of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:( :(

[Manveru]

*shakes his head in disbelief*

I just can't believe my eyes... they're tricksy, I guess... no comment... I can't say anything... I don't know what to say... my tongue feels thick...

*flies away climbing higher and higher hoping that maybe wild winds will disperse his grief to naught*

[Finduilas]

I talked to my Mom...she's here now. She says I may be in the forum but a more limited time, little on Friday night or more on Saturday night. Or sometimes both nights! :)
I'm sorry for troubling really, but I thought she would forbid me, she was really angry with my marks ( 2 "C"s :( ).
I will study harder, I promise this to you too, so that one day I can come back entirely and again devote much more time to the Guild. I'm sorry for all the troubles.

[Lhunithiliel]

Sooooo........ It gets spookier and spookier ...this place...

A perfect place for a wraith....

I AM SORRY!!!

...for having pushed probably too hard on you
...for wanting your attention too much
...for wanting you around more often
... for demanding your activity

......... for everything!

Findi, I wish you all the best! I know you're not going to leave us for good...but I understand!

Still......... I'll miss you!!!!!!!!!!!!

:( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Mrs. Maggott]

Now is the time for our scholars to use the old "carrot and stick" method of raising grades: when you do well, you get an extra hour or two on the forum; when you do less well, you penalize yourself by losing some time as well. It is a great incentive to do well and I'm sure that doting parents will see it in the same light! Keep us apprised of your marks and "reward" yourself for extra effort in bringing up those grades! :p

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Finduilas:
I'm sorry for all the troubles.
Troubles?! What troubles are you talking about? It's not that... we're :(:(:(, that's all.
BTW: Try to use this fine "theory" of Mrs. M. Sounds good to me:D (though I could never 'penalize' myself--weak-willed-arch;)).

***

Now another matter... Lhun... boss... "mom"... there's nothing to be sorry for. We (at least I) understand your concern about this place. We know you want it to be as "alive" as it can be... or even more;) (though I thought that wraiths prefer a "spookie" atmosphere... that's strange phenomenon---kidding:D). I know it's a serious matter, but still... cheer up you all... there's always a brand new day as one smart man sings... we'll definitely miss all those who decided to "rest" (leave isn't a proper word, I don't like it) from this place for awhile, but they'll not be forgotten and I'm sure... one day... they'll come back... keep the faith!

(wow... I guess that "windy" activity helped a little;))

[Lhunithiliel]

Ah... Blue Angel... Thank you for comforting a dark soul! :)

I have been accused of this before... but... It's me! Always on the ride! :) Hunting...searching...you know.. "wraith's stuff" ;)

Findi, my dear, I DEMAND excellent marks! Hear me?!?!

[Gil-Galad]

I don't know.I'm totally despaired.
It was hard for me to realize that Ant and Beleg will no be part of the Guild and the forum anymore,and it is impossible for me to accept that my beloved sis will not be part too.
Sorry for the Bulgarian now,but I've gotta say some things to Findi:

Nishto niama da bude kakto predi bez teb!Ti znachish tolkova mnogo za foruma i za men che naistina ste mi lipsvash ujasno mnogo!!!Dano niakoi den Eru chue moite dumi i te vurne otnovo tuk,sred nas!
Ste mi lipsvash,moia elfke!


Miss you!

[Lhunithiliel]

Stiga de, G-G!!!!!
Shte me razplachesh!!!! :(
Nedei taka!!!!
Haide....Tya vse pak ne ni napuska zavinagi a samo dokato opravi ocenkite... Ah! Tezi maiki!!!!!!!!!! :(

Mishwence, i na men mnooooooooooooogo shte mi lipsvash, da znaesh!!! S koi sega shte se smeya?! :( :(

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Stiga de, G-G!!!!!
Shte me razplachesh!!!! :(
Nedei taka!!!!
Haide....Tya vse pak ne ni napuska zavinagi a samo dokato opravi ocenkite... Ah! Tezi maiki!!!!!!!!!! :(

Mishwence, i na men mnooooooooooooogo shte mi lipsvash, da znaesh!!! S koi sega shte se smeya?! :( :(
Sure................... :(

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Beleg
Right now I feel burdened with many things, my personal health is not great, my exams are looming, I might also face some family problems, we have to change the house, the health of my mother is falling dangerously. Some how or the other these things have made me get tired of Tolkien discussions; for the moment, I really don't think that I am enjoying them as much as I aught to do.
I have decided to take a break from serious Tolkien work and rest and maybe when [hopefully] most of my problems are sorted out I'll come back; but if for some reason it doesn't happen then this is the ta-ta.
I say.... As I see, all those above serious reasons seem to not be able to hinder you from still visiting the forum and participating in discussions....
Yet... you, and all of us, found them serious enough as to excuse you from the Guild....

Beleg...... There is no need in all this!!! You want out from the Guild? Fine!.... You're free in your choices! Do whatever pleases you! We're not forcing anyone to stay or go!
But do you think it's fair to come and state that because of personal problems you will not be able to be with us in the guild's activities etc...etc... and yet be able to participate in other discussions.... ?
I personally don't mind all that! You can do in TTF whatever you want!
But I know you have been looking for a way out for some time... It's ridiculous, you know! What's so difficult to openly stand up and say "I am leaving, because I want so"!?!

[I hope I'll have a spot left for me if I am back. :)
You made me seriously think on this issue, boy.... I will perhaps ask for some more opinions before I do what I think should be right.

[Manveru]

Uuuuu... I think the wraith is stirred...

...This 'foe' is beyond any of you!... Run!

:D

[Gil-Galad]

Hmhmhmm I think that Lhun is really angry,and she might be right.
I don't want to comment the situation but I hope that my friend Beleg we'll ba back some day and I hope that Lhun will calm down soon.

:(

[Melian]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Hello and goodbye, friends.
I have to leave you, too. :(
It's not that I don't like you, nay! I love you all!!! :(
But it seems to affect my everyday and school life. Since I returned here I had to read many lectures and essays...much work. But the work at school is much too and my marks are getting lower. I can feel I have to quit something and unfortunately, this can't be school . :(
My parents are unsatisfied and so am I. :(

I'm sorry. You gave me one of my best moments and I will always remember this place. And the people too of course. Great people and a great Mom. :)
Keep the Tolkienologist spirit. Thank you for being here, friends.

Goodbye and good luck.

I understand all this, but I want to tell you something.
I don't have a computer at home and I've been a member here for more than two years. You see that it's impossible to be quite regular and active when youd on't know if you can squeeze time to visit an Internet cafe or not.
STILL, I'm part of all this. I'm doing my best to be one. I know that online time can consume much of your concentration, but Findi, believe me---you can spend less time, fix all the things you need to do and STILL manage!
Fight like a brave, girl! You are the champion! Whatever it takes, I know you'll manage with all your missions!!!!!!
And, fellow guildsmen, please let' cheer her up!!!!!!!!!!!!

Davai, Findi! Ti si vurha!!!!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Melian
I
And, fellow guildsmen, please let' cheer her up!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah,sure.:( :( :(

[Beleg]

I say.... As I see, all those above serious reasons seem to not be able to hinder you from still visiting the forum and participating in discussions....

Like? Perhaps you are talking about the one post I made to correct an error of Eleberth? Hardly discussion.
As for the forums I have been visiting them, but I have taken no part in posting nor do I intend to. I am sick with TTF's policies right now.

Yet... you, and all of us, found them serious enough as to excuse you from the Guild....

You are very keen of accusing other people but I must assure you that unlike you [perhaps?] I am not fond of falslies.
Beleg...... There is no need in all this!!! You want out from the Guild? Fine!.... You're free in your choices! Do whatever pleases you! We're not forcing anyone to stay or go!


That's good, only that YOU are forcing me to go.

But do you think it's fair to come and state that because of personal problems you will not be able to be with us in the guild's activities etc...etc... and yet be able to participate in other discussions.... ?


Take a calming pill and try speaking a bit more rationally.

But I know you have been looking for a way out for some time... It's ridiculous, you know! What's so difficult to openly stand up and say "I am leaving, because I want so"!?!


Because I like this Guild, It had potential, but alas you try to spoil everything.

What's the use of posting anything? Will it be read? No. I read up, research and then post something refuting some arguement and showing it is baseless.
The next time I open the browser I see the same old point thrown up to face as a fact.
And later when I delete my posts, for if no one cares to read them what's the use of them, I am being called an angry teenager.

Well, I have to say Lhunithiel, it is you that is thinking like an angry, and irrational teenager.

There is no fun working under you, you like to post biting sarcastic sentences and wail. That's what you though. There are countless subtle examples of it.
You made FOAT leave when he was doing fabolous work. You criticize people but don't look at yourself.

But what's the use of saying all this to you?
You can't tone down your enthusiasm, you think that those people who aren't as enthusiastic as you are inferior to you.
Thorin said this on MT a long time ago but perhaps you have forgotten.

Anyway, It's done.
I am done with it.
You can rule tyrannically for all you want.

Byebye

[Gil-Galad]

Please calm down Beleg.
You are right about all our efforts to create something good,something nice and the fact that we do it for nothing.

But I think you over exaggerate.About some things.

And about the "teen" problem!Dont feel offended.No,Lhun didn't want to offend you,that's for sure.She meant that the teen years are really strange for everybody and something else...........the teen years are the most beautiful part of your life,of my life,of everybody's life!!!!Don't be offended.

I hope that you and Lhun will meet in MSN and talk about this problem!Because you should solve it .Nobody is completely right,so talk and try to make compromises.Behave yourselves as adults,speak!!
Let me see whether you boh can do it?!ok?
Because I want you back in The Guild and Ant and Findi too.Because we are the heart and the soul of this Guild and without us it will die!

[Eriol]

I was about to second Gil-Galad in the "everybody calm down" plea, but I know that some things have been said here that (in my opinion) shouldn't have been said. That's life -- people say things. Let's try to not add to it. I don't know if this means "calming down" -- in view of what was said -- but it means taking the problem to PM's and MSN and other channels.

This is the most impartial comment I could come up with in public... just as I think that some things should not have been said, I don't want to say some things and break my own advice ;).

I like both of you and I'm willing to do whatever is needed to heal this breach. Give me a call ;).

[Lhunithiliel]

Beleg,
I have witnessed your dislike for long and we have talked about all this. Right?
Have I not expressed myself clearly in those conversations?

I will no more comment on this issue.

I hate to see you leaving (for the second time!). Only this time I'll no more act like your teen-age enthusiastic friend ..or whatever you call me.
In fact, you may call me with whatever names you wish.

I told you before and I'm telling you now:

I don't deal with people who only claim that things are not right without actually doing all their best to do things right!

You can blame me for being an ignorant enthusiast. It's your own opinion. I know for myself exactly how much knowledge and life wisdom I have. And if you have a mistaken view on my behaviour, I'm not to blame. If you don't like it, or if you expect me to act like some "guardian" or a strict "professor" teaching manners to her "inferior" children... you are totally wrong! I am not this kind of a person and inspite of my age, I'll never change. Because I like the company of anyone who is of a mind like mine - a free mind!

As for the "tyrany"..... Well, my friend, this is easily corrected. This is a community of free people with free will and free minds. The moment they find my "tyrany" too heavy, they are free to elect a new Guild Master.
And I suppose that when this happens, you'll be the first one to return!

But I'll tell you one more thing. Master Grond left this place to me (AFTER elections!!!! Don't forget that!!!) and as long as I'm in charge of this Guild, as long the members don't elect another Guild Master, I'll do my best to keep this place functioning.
You're calling this tyrany.
It's your opinion.
I call it responsibility!

[Gil-Galad]

Please,please,please!!
Now I"m expecting an answer from Beleg,defending his point of view...........
That's too much for me.

I agree with most of Lhun's words,but still I think YOU,BOTH OF YOU SHOULD MAKE A COMPROMISE!
Stop talking s**ts,I would like to see people who behave theirselves in the appropriate way.

Just try talk,please talk in MSN and try to reach an agreement,ok?

[Beleg]

I will post no more for I need offer no explainations.

[Lhunithiliel]

Beleg, I just want to say that you're still a member of this Guild .. hat is IF you wish so.
You don't like me...but you said you liked the Guild.
Your name is on the List!

From there on it's up to yo - you either act as a Guildsman or you don't. Your choice!
You'll do that for the Guild and NOT for me!

And I still most sincerely wish you and your Mom the best recovery!

[Gil-Galad]

Beleg,the last things Lhun said seem to be the smartest ones today!!!
Forget your personal problems,it not about her,it's about the Guild?!
What's the problem,ah?
I don't see any,and I don'y like many people from the forum,I really hate them,but I don't leave it because of them.
I hope that when you and your Mom recover you'll be back, FOR THE GUILD OF TOLKIENOLOGY NEEDS YOU!

[Manveru]

You know what? I needed some sleep last night, but when I read this... well... I get that 'weird' impression that I'm still sleeping. And I want to wake up... FAST!

I know that it's not good to 'meddle' in others' affairs, quarrels, thought-exchanging (call it as you like...), so I just say this:

Nervous atmosphere is the most destructive force on this small planet called Earth.

Don't let it destroy what we have here.
It's madness...
wow... I sound like Boromir;)

No further comments...

[Gil-Galad]

Let's stop with all these quarrels.
I suggest to leave Beleg and Lhun to talk in MSN,to let Beleg to think about The Guild and probably to reconsider his decision.
The only thing we can do now is to wait.Time is what they need now.........

[Finduilas]

I see that the situation is very delicate...and I hope that all the problems will be solved because I adore BOTH Lhun and beleg.
However, this is not inportant, it's important that the Guild, the one that they joined (and all we) and defended needs them to continue to live. Beleg, just think of all the energy you put in this place, of all the effort and enthusiasm! Think of the knowledge this Guild gave you and you gave to it! And it certainly still needs you! As well as Lhun! Please, don't quarrel...I beg you... :(

* * *
Thank you for the back up. I really appreciate it. Thanks, friends and GG thanks for the wonderful essay!!!!! :) It's just so breathtaking...I think you finally made the best essay of all! ;)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
IThank you for the back up. I really appreciate it. Thanks, friends and GG thanks for the wonderful essay!!!!! :) It's just so breathtaking...I think you finally made the best essay of all! ;)
Findi,Findi,Findi,you are back!Thank you for the nice words!I'm melting from happiness!!!!!
Welcome back!!!

[Finduilas]

:):):)
*Hugs GG*
Keep melting....:D

Btw, the essay was really fantastic and that's what I thought when I read it from your e-mail! I'm speechless!

[Gil-Galad]

Help,I need your help!
I'm melting.........I'm just a spot on the chair!!!!!!!!
Findi I love you,my dear sis!

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Help,I need your help!
I'm melting.........I'm just a spot on the chair!!!!!!!!
Findi I love you,my dear sis!

:)
I think that "heart" emotions should be added too...!!!!

LOVE YOU TOO, BIG BROTHER!!!! :):):)

Oh, and "hug" emotions too...! ;)

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Finduilas
:)
I think that "heart" emotions should be added too...!!!!

LOVE YOU TOO, BIG BROTHER!!!! :):):)

Oh, and "hug" emotions too...! ;)
I second that all (except that part with BIG BRO:p-sorry, GG, you're not my type;))

:D:D:D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Manveru
I second that all (except that part with BIG BRO:p-sorry, GG, you're not my type;))

:D:D:D

Hmmm I thought something was going to happen between us !!!!!:D :D :D

Joking of course.

[Manveru]

Hear me... hear me... (ok, I'll start it again... without 'fooling around';)).

Ahem. I was asked today to inform you that our beloved Maia Queen is a little busy these days (some things need to be settled...) and she won't be able to participate actively in the guild.

THX for your time:D.

[Gil-Galad]

For how long time Manveru?

Hey did you know that we won the debate with GoS!!!Can you believe it?!I can't!!!!
Congratulations to our beloved debators who did their best and won!!!!!

[Eledhwen]

Will the girdle hold in her absence, or will this guild become infiltrated by the Glamhoth, spiders and other dark things? I think we should be told :concerned:

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Eledhwen
Will the girdle hold in her absence, or will this guild become infiltrated by the Glamhoth, spiders and other dark things? I think we should be told :concerned:
Ask Manveru,he knows the answer.
But I suppose he should choose a new name,like Thingol for example!!!!:D :D :D

[Eledhwen]

Eledhwen turns in her chair and looks the blue-winged, er, thingy, straight in the eye. "Manervu?"

BTW, I checked... the name Thingol was taken by someone who only made one post back in March of this year. What a waste!

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Ask Manveru,he knows the answer.
But I suppose he should choose a new name,like Thingol for example!!!!:D :D :D
Thingol? Blee... I dislike this one... I think I'll pass... thx a lot:p
BTW: I like my 'name' (maybe I'm not the only one who do so...;)).

As for the 'time-inquiries'... who knows that? I guess only She knows the answer (:()... sorry.
Originally posted by Eledhwen:
Will the girdle hold in her absence, or will this guild become infiltrated by the Glamhoth, spiders and other dark things? I think we should be told :concerned:
We have a 'girdle'?!:eek: ;)

I'm sure IT will... after all, She won't go far... She has to come back... will come back!!
In the meantime I'll try to do my best to 'protect' this place against all those dark things... where's my fiery sword?;)
Feel a little comforted, Eledhwen?

[Lhunithiliel]

****A dark "thing" enters...

Don't worry! There's a dark Mistress of Fire here already! Who else would dare threaten this realm?!***** :p

[Gil-Galad]

Eledhwen,as I can see we don't need her girdle!!!We have a dark mistress and the sword of Manveru,and of course my spear Aeglos!!!!

[Scatha]

And a Guildmaster of The Guild of Eruhini, who will help Lhun when needed. :D

[Eledhwen]

;) I can now sleep nights.:cool:

[Gil-Galad]

It seems we formed something like The Fellowship of The Guilds!!!:D :D :D

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Eledhwen,as I can see we don't need her girdle!!!We have a dark mistress and the sword of Manveru,and of course my spear Aeglos!!!!
Still.... No defence will be too effective and this place - never the same without the sweet enchatment of our Maia Queen!

Right, Blue Angel? ;) :D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Still.... No defence will be too effective and this place - never the same without the sweet enchatment of our Maia Queen!

Right, Blue Angel? ;) :D
I bet,Manveru agrees with you!!!!:D :D :D

[Eledhwen]

I've just been taking a stroll through the Guildhall, and I noticed that Grond's Design Pit was looking a bit dusty and empty of late! Maybe it needs fresh input, and I have added a post there with my suggestions. What do others think?

My suggestions (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=370475#post370475)

[Gil-Galad]

Nice idea,but you should develop it.You were right this thread was a little bit dusty these days.:)

[Lhunithiliel]

This will need to open a school of art, El! :)

Now, I would like to show you all sth.
here (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=370526#post370526) :D

And you can also read the idea above those two posts :)

[Melian]

Hi!
I just wanted to let you know that the clutch of archaeology studies got a little looser, so I can spend more time with you. Though I'll be a rare poster from now on, know that I love you, I'll keep my duties and assignments as mch as I can and that I try to read most of your posts. After all, I've got an angel that informs me this and that.;)
Keep the faith!:)

[Scatha]

Open a school of art? ;)

*grins*

I like the idea, Eledhwen, bring it on! :)

[Gil-Galad]

I feel something great is about to happen!!!:) :)

[Lhunithiliel]

Mel, Findi,

I MISS YOU , girls! :( :( :(

[Gil-Galad]

The only think we can do now is to wait till their coming back... :(
I spoke with Findi and she told me she would probably be back in the Guild soo ..........:)

[Eledhwen]

A School of Art? O.K.
Let's put it in Grond's design pit, which has a good name, both philologically and in reputation.

The building will resemble another that I recall was delved out of a pit, The Eden Project (http://www.edenproject.com/) in Cornwall. This will create maximum light and space for the many Tolkien-inspired works of art that will be displayed.

Can we discuss how to set up the interior? Galleries, of course, but of individual artists or of types of work (eg: portraits, heraldry, weaponry, calligraphy etc.)

I would also like to see photographs of 3D work too (animate it if you have the technology), and if anyone actually makes any weaponry or clothing, photographs please!

[Scatha]

By category of work, I presume, so it would be easy to know what goes where. ;)

[Gil-Galad]

WOW!!!But who's going to make some 3D pictures?
I think this project is going to be something enormous.IMO we should show it to all members of TTF.I mean everybody should be allowed to participate,there are so many talented members here.

[Scatha]

Yep, and we probably should ask the people in the artists guild to help out. :)



BTW, what happened to the link to the quiz?
I wanted to take the SR Journeyman one, but the link to it is gone.

[Gil-Galad]

Yeah,what happened,I haven't passed the Sr.Journeyman level yet :p ;) .I think I want to try expert one this month!!!:p ;)

[Lhunithiliel]

Excusesssssssss, my finne young Gentlemen!

E x c u s e s ! :p :D

The link DOES work all right! :p

*************

[Gil-Galad]

Finally my dear Lhun!!!I'm going to try the expert level these days so,please cross your fingers for me!!!;) :p

[Scatha]

OK, so the link works, but where did it go?

It used to be on the general guild page, but now I cannot find it there anymore.

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Scatha
OK, so the link works, but where did it go?

It used to be on the general guild page, but now I cannot find it there anymore.
It's probably because you've got your 'browsing' set on showing the threads from the last 30 days (or sth like that), Scatha. Try to change it (enrolling menu, near the bottom of the page) and I'm sure it will 'come back';):D.

[Lhunithiliel]

No! It is "sticky"! :eek:

Scatha, when you go to the "lobby" of the Guild, there is one thread called The Quiz (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12976)
And there is the link to the Quiz itself. :)

Enjoy.... :D

BTW, I had promissed once that I was going to renew the questions...But as not everyone has passed it... shall I do it anyway? :rolleyes:

[Gil-Galad]

Ok,let's say that you are too lazy to do it......:D ;) ,but we can forgive you this little sin,having in mind all the things yo uare doing for our Guild!:D :p ;)

[Scatha]

I haven't taken a serious try at the Sr Journeyman test yet, which I would like to do before you change it around again. I gave it one less serious try, just to see how hard it was, and failed due to the tricky questions at that point.

At least let me get a go at them, before you change them again. :)


**** Failed to pass Sr Journeyman, by one question.****

[Lhunithiliel]

I'll hold on the present set of Q&A for a while more.
I hope other members would probably try to pass a higher level ... I think this is HIGHLY RECCOMMENDABLE !!! :rolleyes: :cool:

C'mon people! Who did we make this Quiz for? And what reason for? It should have been an incentive for every GoT-member to study and improve.... :cool:

[Gil-Galad]

ok Lhun I promise I will try to pass it today,but I can't guarantee you that because my first exam is on Monday and I have to study hard,as usual.:( :mad:

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
BTW, I had promissed once that I was going to renew the questions...But as not everyone has passed it... shall I do it anyway? :rolleyes:
Well... secretly hoping you'll do it while struggling with the UT and time...;)
I passed the test for Sr. Journeyman some time ago, but as I said then, I succeeded at the second attempt... with the same questions... well... to me, it's 'unfair' then to 'boast' with it... I'll stick with my Journeyman rank... try to finish UT and wait for the new set of questions:p

GG, good luck! Which test are you going to take? That 'easy' Expert? Well... piece a cake...;)

:D

[Gil-Galad]

I'm going to take first Sr.Journeyman,cause I have't passed this version yet.I suppose I have been to lazy to do it.But first I'm going to pass my first exam in Dutch Language,so cross your fingers please!!!And cross your toes too!

[Manveru]

Sure... I shouldn't have any problems flying with my fingers crossed (though it can cause some problems during writing---and I've got some these days;)).

Luck Luck Luck... Good luck, your Majesty!
Show them your royal 'nature'... you can do it!

:D

[Gil-Galad]

Well,I haven't passed Sr.Journeyman in its new version.I suppose I am too lazy to do it.But I will pass it probabbly tonight and the expert too.....
Firt I've gottta pass my first exam in Dutch language on Monday!!!
Cross you fingers!!And your toes too!;) :D

[Melian]

Ahem...


Happy delayed NAME-DAY to Mike!!!!


(Since it was Archangel Michael's Day yesterday....;) )

[Manveru]

Thank you, oh! Maia:D.

Delayed or not... who cares? It's memory that really matters.

Thx again.

[Gil-Galad]

Yeah,Happy Name Day Manveru!!!!Do you see?You have someone to keep an eye on you!Melian is always around you!!!;)

[Finduilas]

Happy Names Day, devil... ;)

May a Maia bless you! :)

[Manveru]

Thx, you two... Have I ever told you it feels so great to be here... with you all? I feel so... alive again.

Woh, I feel good, I knew that I wouldn't have
I feel good, I knew that I wouldn't have
So good, so good, I got you (Maia)...

I got you all...

Thx for everything!

:D

[Lhunithiliel]

****From the eternal darkness comes a voice...

"Long live, creature of Light!

For what might the power of Darkness be without having to contest Light!" ********

;) :D

[Gil-Galad]

See Manveru?We all love you!!
Sometimes I really feel myself part of one big company,of one big family.:)

[Lhunithiliel]

Friends, Romans, Guildsmen....,( ;) )

Uhum....

For months there has been going a Debating Tournament on TTF and I am sad to acknowledge the truth that this event seems to have "sucked" all the Guild's activities! While it shouldn't have! The Tournament is a wonderful activity but unfortunately, it has been taken as a comfortable excuse for doing nothing else!

I have been and I am still witnessing very discouraging facts:

>> lack of schollary-approach activities in the Guild:
no discussion opened and attended within the Guild's halls for a lot of time; the Study - freezed; the Gallery going on very slowly and only thanks to G-G's persistence; some good ideas and suggested projects - never initiated ....

>> because of the above, more and more members are losing interest in their membership in the Guild and are either disappearing or leaving


Very troubling! Don't you think? :eek:

So, on this day, I am asking you:

What do you think we should ALL do together in order to make this place alive and worth called "Guild of Tolkienology"?!

I count on a maximum and "hot" discussion on the issue. ALL members - invited!

Your "wraith"

[Gil-Galad]

Concerning The Gallery,I am starting big changes on Sunday,those who has been late will lose their right to post ther biographies of hte characters they applied for.
As I told you several times,I am preparing something like "inner" debate tournament,for members of our Guild and at least one debate with other Guild monthly.Im just waiting for the end of the Debate Tournament.
Let's say that I will try to make it more interesting here.:)

[Hirila]

A debate within the Guild! We hadn't had something like this for ages! At least I didn't see one.

Write me on top of the list, I'd like to do some debating again. That was so much fun in the earlier days of the Guild. I guess the other members will agree and after such a long break it should be quite easy to find people who participate.

[Gil-Galad]

Just wait till the official end of the Tournament!!!!
The good old times will be back!!!!

[Finduilas]

YES! I too feel like debating these days...:D...and there is a debate!!!

:D

But it will be good if we do not stop and lose practise after the tournament is over.:)

[Scatha]

Heck yeah, there is a debate. ;) Currently between GoT and GoE, last round event. I haven't enjoyed myself this good so far.


Btw, I am happy to announce that GoE won their first debate.
Our round 9 judging now stands 3-1, with one vote to be cast.
:D

[Gil-Galad]

Congratulations Scatha!!!!You deserved your first victory!!I was curious to read you debate and you did deserve to win the debate!!!

And the debate now is pretty tough I think,especially with this stubborn guy Omnipotent_elf :p ;)

[Finduilas]

Yes, Congratulations!!! :)

And yes, he's stubborn...goodie..:rolleyes:

[Gil-Galad]

That's why I think you should spend some more time debating than chatting!!!!!!!Especially with the new cable internet connection which you have.
Shame on you Findi!!!!;) :p

[Starflower]

aargh :(

I am unable to take part in the debate after all... I did volunteer but there's just so much to do at the moment... I'm sorry :(

I also won't be taking part in any guild activity until after Christmas, I will be traveling and will have no regular access to internet.
I'm sorry for the extra work for all you other debators, but I'm sure you will do brilliantly anyway!

until later

Starflower

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
That's why I think you should spend some more time debating than chatting!!!!!!!Especially with the new cable internet connection which you have.
Shame on you Findi!!!!;) :p

But I am active in the debate!!!!!
Am I not?....:(:(

[Gil-Galad]

Findi,yes you are active,I wanted to make you participate!!!
You do a great job!

Starflower,Ok,I hope you will be back after Christmas!!!Have a nice travel!!!!
I will ask Lhun to keep you membership until Christmas,ok?

We'll miss you during the debate,but I think we are going pretty well there,thanks to Lhun and Findi of course!!!

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Starflower
aargh :(

I am unable to take part in the debate after all... I did volunteer but there's just so much to do at the moment... I'm sorry :(

I also won't be taking part in any guild activity until after Christmas, I will be traveling and will have no regular access to internet.
I'm sorry for the extra work for all you other debators, but I'm sure you will do brilliantly anyway!

until later

Starflower

I should thank you that you don't participate in the debate ...;) :p
Thanks and yes we will miss you! But we will wait!
And you will come back! ;)
Because there are so many other debates...;)
Have a nice Christmas! :)
And I hope you get a lot of presents...:p:D
*kidding of course, it's not the most important...*:rolleyes:

[Scatha]

Thanks GG. :D

Findi, you'll do just fine in the debate, I am sure. :)

Starflower, best of luck on the road, see you after christmas and have a good time during those days. :)

[Lhunithiliel]

Hey, Starflower, don't worry!
However, we'll miss you..... Hope to meet you again soon in these halls. :)

As for the debate,

GO BULGARIANS !!!! :D

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Hey, Starflower, don't worry!
However, we'll miss you..... Hope to meet you again soon in these halls. :)

As for the debate,

GO BULGARIANS !!!! :D
BG for GoT!!!
:D :D

Starflower, good luck and come back ASAP!!

[Lhunithiliel]

Ehei! Blue Angels down to Earth?! :D

Where have you disappered?:eek:

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Ehei! Blue Angels down to Earth?! :D

Where have you disappered?:eek:
Well, on a serious "wing-stretch", that's for sure:D. Some work needed my attention in "reality" (I write it in " " cause for me... reality is here). So nearly my whole time online was dedicated to some Maia;).
But I'm back... at least for a little while. I started my little 'come back' with posting that bio of Fingolfin and now I think I'll do some "excavation" in the Guild's activities... see what was happening and stuff;)

[Lhunithiliel]

Friends, I am not quite sure how to say all I have to say in this post, so I'll do it the simple way:

I have reached a decision to step down from the post Guild Master of GoT.

What I could, I have achieved. The Guild is stable and well running. But........ It's time for changes!

Because of this, we shall have to elect a new Guild Master.

So... we shall have elections.

My nominee is Gil_galad. I hope G-G, you will accept my offer!

I hope the rest of the members will come out with their nominations ASAP. :)

After the nominees are decided, I'll open a poll and we'll have a new Guild Master soon. :)

P.S. I am NOT leaving the Guild! Just stepping down from the post. That's all.

[Scatha]

Whoa Lhun, why? :eek:

If it is not broken, then why try to fix it?
The guild is running well, then why step down?
Unless you cannot afford the time to run it, that is.

Don't get me wrong, I think GG would do a good job.
You ran a tight ship, as I try to in the GoE, but there is so much more you can accomplish here. The most difficult part in running a guild, is to keep the members in while striving to bring in fresh blood. This you have managed to do so far.

So I ask again, why?

[Lhunithiliel]

Yes, Scatha, you're right! Nothing is "broken".

But it's no big deal that I'm stepping down from the post! I'll still be around.
The Guild's structure is solid now, so G-G (or any other IF any other is suggested!) will not have much difficulty to run what is left as a legacy by Grond and me.
I hope the new Guild Master, whoever he/she is, will find a clear track for new endeavours. I very much hope he/she will do just this!

[Gil-Galad]

I am shocked.
I am shocked by your decision.

It is a great honour for me to be nominated by you for the coming elections if there are such elections.And I cannote believe I deserve such a nominee.BUT:

I don't want you to leave your position.We all love you and we all know and see that you do the best for The Guild of Tolkienology!!!I don't see any reason to step down from your position!!!!!!!!!We need you!!!You are the heart and soul of our Guild!!!!!You are the most talented,the most respected and capable person among us,and nly such kind of persons should be Guildmasters of the Guild of Tolkienology!!!


I hope that we all will make you change your opinion and stay our beloved Guidmaster!!!!!!
Come guys and boys,let's show her that we don't want her to stepp down!!!!!!!!!

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
I have reached a decision to step down from the post Guild Master of GoT.
I'm speechless... my arms fall along my body and my fluffy blue angelic wings just seize in astonishment... and...

I'm falling down... I've lost my faith...
I'm falling down... when I die all the angels fade away...
["Falling" by Hunter]

Three o'clock in the morning
It's quiet and there's no one around
Just the bang and the clatter
As an angel runs to ground

Just the bang
And the clatter
As an angel
Hits the ground...
["Stay" by U2]

Wanna save the poor arch? Stay... pls, boss, plssss...

[Finduilas]

Loneliness was our hunger
.........and stagnancy was our grief.

Peace was our thunder
.........and dust we found in our reef.

Laziness was our labour
.........and love we showed not...

Arguements were our favour
.........and even hatred came along
...I should say a lot...

A flash and we were reborned!
A brightest mind that was our font!
A person that was God!
Tell me, how can we love Her not?!

Now She wants to leave...
bring us back to our grief...
She wants not to be our mother anymore...
but can't you see, thus you'll only dig in our hearts a bore!

Our love will never fade...
Oh, we wish, we wish you stayed...


:( I would miss you, Mum...nobody else will be such a great Mummy like you...What's more, GG would be a Daddy...;)
I want our Mummy!!!!!! :(

[Manveru]

Hey, Findi... poems belong in Creative Endeavours... I won't fly and seek them all over the forum;) kidding (sorry, I shouldn't have... not in this moment).

Seriously... may I a