The Hall of Essays:Work-book - Archive

[Gil-Galad]

Guys,the first topic is published.If somebody wants to suggest a topic for the next month,please feel free to do it!:cool:

[gate7ole]

'From A Thought,Through The Love, Till The Reality
..................and finally the cruel reality showed its real face.

Why do you think that happened?
Why didn't the Valar and the Firstborn live happily?
I don't really seem to understand the subject. As far as I know, after the return of the exiled Noldor, i.e. after the War of Wrath, the Elves dwelt in Valinor together withthe Valar.
Is the topic of the essay more like:
"Why did the Noldor want to leave Valinor and establish realms of their own?"

[Melian]

Yeah, it does sound a bit vaguely but maybe that's the point--you can interpret it as you like.
To me it's more like : "Explore the rocesses that took place from Eru's thought to the cruel reality in the next epochs".Though I think that the middle subject, LOVE, is really a driving force for these processes, what about hatred then? Wasn't it sometimes even more vital for what happened next? Or pride--it's such an essential emotion in the entire prolific wrk of Tolkien? Whatever, I guess, the more interpretations, the better for this undertaking.
And I have a suggestion --I psted it in the other essay thread---Can we post images,poetry and so on in the essays?

[Gil-Galad]

ups,I think Finduilas should re-published her topic,or at least to clearify what does she mean.
I am sorry for that,but when it is 02:50h a.m. it is hard to make things in the best way and to see whether there is any problem with the topic :( :(

[Finduilas]

I don't really seem to understand the subject. As far as I know, after the return of the exiled Noldor, i.e. after the War of Wrath, the Elves dwelt in Valinor together withthe Valar.

I talked to Gil-Galad and he asked me to explain my view.

Now, the topic is :
From A Thought,Through The Love, Till The Reality

Where did the world come from? Iluvatars thoughts ,didn't it?
However, it was innocent and young then and nothing seemed to be able to ruin that peace.
Then came the Firstborn and Valar's love to them. However, that love caused many mistakes later- spoiling the Elves, causing pride and egoism. Love had to be the Golden Ere of the Valar, however it became the Downfal or at least its beginning.
Soon the reality showed its real face and the Elves were no longer protected from Evil. They did have to know and understand to beat it.
So my main question and subject for lots of thesis is :
Where can we find the quilt for this transformation and who should we blame:
Eru
The Valar
Morgoth
Elves?
However, this subject can be interpret(as Melian said) in many ways and everybody has the freedom to express his opinion.

[Lhunithiliel]

Please, excuse me, but the teacher in me has made me do a small correction :o

The title of the topic should be WITHOUT articles.
So, it should be like this:

"From Thought, Through Love, Till Reality "


:rolleyes: :p

[Finduilas]

Thank you, Lhun.What would have we done without you?
That's surely better.It didn't sound very correctly to me as well, but now is perfect.
Thanks.:p :) :)
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Triabva da vzimam 4astni urozi pri teb!;) :D

[Melian]

:D
OK, now it's pretty clear!

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Oh,nedei,kakvo shte pravim s dvama eksperta kato Lhun?:)

[Finduilas]

Oh,I am glad that's so.

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:D :D :D
Ami 6e ni slu6ate...:rolleyes:
:p

[Finduilas]

Ei,come on!
Doesn't anyone want to write an essay?:) :eek: :)
Actually, I will try to write one this week but I will probably finish it the next one.
Anyway, do count on me.

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Ei,come on!
Doesn't anyone want to write an essay?:) :eek: :)

Hey, wait. We have one whole month to write the essay. Do you expect someone to finish in just a week?

[Finduilas]

I am sorry...
I was just asking.:)

[Gil-Galad]

I'm sorry that I haven't posted my essay yet,although it is almost ready.
But due to some educational problems(I had to fill some application forms and write couple of motivation letters,and send them of course to three universities)I was not able to write it.I promise I will post it next week.

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
I'm sorry that I haven't posted my essay yet,although it is almost ready.
But due to some educational problems(I had to fill some application forms and write couple of motivation letters,and send them of course to three universities)I was not able to write it.I promise I will post it next week. Haven't I helped you?! ;) :p :D Don't complain! :p

[Melian]

Folks, I AM READY!!!! You will read my essay very very soon!
It's definitely long,I'm sorry. I guess there will be people who don't share my point, so please, feel free to disagree! I'll be happy to read.

[Gil-Galad]

YES you helped me and I really appreciate your help.But I had so much work that I got mad,you can ask Finduilas if you want.:( :( ....and Melian too:( :( .Even at the moment I" having some problems with my application forms:(

[Melian]

My revered Fellow-Guldsmen! I'd like to congratulate gate7ole on the essay! I think it's better than mine. No surprise he won the last competition!:)

[Finduilas]

Actually, they are both great masterpieces. I think you have expounded thorough theses. I'm absolutely astonished of how people can create such writings. Excellent! However, I'll reread them and ask you if I have any questions or remarks.

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by Melian
My revered Fellow-Guldsmen! I'd like to congratulate gate7ole on the essay! I think it's better than mine. No surprise he won the last competition!:)
Please, let the judges decide which essay is better (and know that I am one of the judges and I don't accept such bribes:D )

Originally posted by Finduilas
Actually, they are both great masterpieces. I think you have expounded thorough theses. I'm absolutely astonished of how people can create such writings. Excellent! However, I'll reread them and ask you if I have any questions or remarks.
And I wait for your essay, along with everyone else's.

[Lhunithiliel]

I don't see

I don't hear

I don't speak........

Do you remember that "monkey - trinity"?

I am a judge here and I am just like those three monkeys :p

[Eledhwen]

Hear no evil
See no evil
Speak no evil

Partly wise; those who see no evil where evil exists are deluded.

[Finduilas]

I have submited my essay. However, I want to warn you that it is literary one. In other words everything is expressed by metaphors.

[Gil-Galad]

Hm...my essay is ready and I am going to post it after a couple of minutes.I don't like it..........and probably I have many mistakes but at 02:19a.m. is very hard to check for mistakes.:(

In addition I would say that Gate7ole published very interesting essay and I like most his style.I also like Finduilas' way of presenting her essay.

[Melian]

I don't accept such bribes....
Hmm, people are getting suspicious these days, and you are on of them, gate7ole!:) I really just wanted to say I like your essay,but you can get it as you want...

Finduilas, yours was very innovative! I like the index below and the whole poetic, metaphoric layout!

[Gil-Galad]

Guys........after a long period of thinking I decided my essay is not good enough.I mean it is not what I wanted.
So please I don't want it to be judged,is it possible?I think I did not make my thesis as it should have been.:( :(

[Melian]

Cheer up, dear Elf-friend!You know I like you whatever the spelling...:)
Now, maybe you'll do better with the next topic!
And btw, I have a suggestion for one. I'm sorry if it's early,you decide. But I think there's nothing wrong if I put it forward now.
Well, the problems in Feanor's character have always thrilled me.
What about: "PRIDE--HELPFUL OR RUINOUS"?
Sure, it is prone to any corrections and suggestions made by you.
Your turn now.

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by Melian
Cheer up, dear Elf-friend!

Mmm, Gil-Galad is not an elf-friend. He IS an elf. Elendil was Elf-friend.
Just mentioned it, in case it is confused by someone

[Melian]

Well, I just meant he is an elf AND my friend, i.e., My Elvish Friend.

Btw, I think that time is up with the first topic and you should announce the next one...and the winner, of course!

[gate7ole]

OK, let's here some suggestions about the new topic.

Lhunithiliel and me will soon come up with the judgement of the first effort.

[Melian]

I think I suggested one already--about pride, you can see it some posts above.
But I have another one to offer, and yes, I know it's too pushy of me...
Well, think about this :Crime and Punishment in Tolkien's Works.
It is meant to explore the different aspects of guilt (like betrayals, slaughters, hurts) and the inevitable judgement by the author--through providence and sufferings. Don't you think that it's always like what goes around, comes around?

[Gil-Galad]

I'm sorry I didn't write anything for a long time,but I was ill and not able to write anything.But.........


I think this topic is quite interesting:
"PRIDE--HELPFUL OR RUINOUS"? .
So I suggest it to be the next one.We can start it from tomorrow and its end is ..........March 21st 2003.

hmhm.....I really like this topic....:) :)

[Lhunithiliel]

Before the round is started, let me announce the decisions of the jury on the first round :)

1/ BEST ESSAY

And the WINNER is....

MELIAN !!!

2/ MOST THRILLING STORY

And the WINNER is....

FINDUILAS!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
******

May I suggest a slight alteration in the title of the topic for the second round?
How about:

"PRIDE--HELPFUL OR RUINOUS"?
to be changed to:
"PRIDE--CONSTRUCTIVE OR RUINOUS"?

[Melian]

:) :) :)
Well, thank you !!! (Seems the bribes helped after all:D )

And, personally, I agree with the minor alternation of the new topic. Actually, I wanted to think of an antonym for 'ruinous', but at the time it just wouldn't come in English. Well, constructive is just it.

[Finduilas]

I 'd like to thank you too. I actually didn't believe it at first.:)
Anyway, thanks a LOTTT!!!!!!:)

[Lhunithiliel]

I would like to ask for the permission of the Essay-Contest Winners to enter their works into the Wiki knowledgebase.
A simple "yes" or "no" will do all right :)

Well, girls? ;)

[Finduilas]

Come on, Lhun, what's this -a permission?
It would be an honour.:)

[Lhunithiliel]

Ah, Findi,
If you only knew how strict :( Walter - the host of the Wiki - is on matters of copyrights!!!!!! ;) :p
*****
BTW, I am still waiting for your Lecture's subtitles!!!!

[Finduilas]

Oh, I forgot:eek:
I'm sorry!
OK, now I'm in holiday so I'll work on them and probably tomorrow or the day after tomorrow you'll get them, ok?

[Gil-Galad]

What do we have here?Three girls from BG talking.....:) ;)

By the way I'm working on the new essay topic and this time I'm going to write a great essay!Soon.......very soon.....probably next week .........I'll post it :cool: ;)

[Melian]

Lhun, you have my 'yes'. It's my pleasure:)
And G-G, we anticipate the smash hit you claim to be in the process of composing.:D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Melian
Lhun, you have my 'yes'. It's my pleasure:)
And G-G, we anticipate the smash hit you claim to be in the process of composing.:D
......hmhmhmh.......after long and hard work I posted the long expected smash hit................:D :D
What about you?Am I the only one who likes this topic?:confused:

[Eledhwen]

This is a very meaty subject. However, I am shy of writing an essay on it because of Christian perspective would come through more than the Mythology of Middle Earth. If I feel inspired, I may do it anyway.

[Gil-Galad]

Guys,my essay is the only one.Won't some of you post something?That is such an interesting topic.:(

[Finduilas]

I am now working on mine and I guess it will soon be ready, so you'll have someone to compete with.;)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
I am now working on mine and I guess it will soon be ready, so you'll have someone to compete with.;)
Finally,someone will post an essay on that great topic.

[Melian]

G-G, we knew you were brave...
we knew you were handsome (at least I know it :) )...
but we didn't know you possess such talents in essay-writing!!!!

Well done,dear!

[Gil-Galad]

WOW,Melian your essay is really impressive!What more can I say about it !:)

[Finduilas]

Melian, that was fantastic! Your essay is both fascinating and informative. You have written it in a marvelous way and it has great points too. I just loved reading it.

And, GG, yours perfect too. But I have already told you that.;)

[Eöl]

Well, I posted mine today, my apologies for it being a day late. I am not too great at writing essays, but hey! Who doesn't need a challenge every now and then?:)

[Lhunithiliel]

Go Bulgaria!!!! :D

Pls, excuse me for not being able to post any essays so far, although I LOVED both topics... I just can't find the time... :(

But you are doing it just FINE!... No! Not just fine....
You're doing it WONDERFULLY ! :D

[Melian]

:D
Thanks! And don't forget,Lady,you are one of our masters! I pay respect to my Bulgarian guru in this forum!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Melian
:D
Thanks! And don't forget,Lady,you are one of our masters! I pay respect to my Bulgarian guru in this forum!
.........and what about me?!:D :D :D

[Gil-Galad]

This topic will be closed 31st March 2003.More than a month from its beginning.What will be the new topic?Any suggestion?If you have any please pm me.

[Melian]

As you know,I like to press people and impose my essay topics on them. :)

If you please check up a few pages above, you will certainly find a suggestion of mine---about crime and punishment in Tolkien'sworks...

[Eöl]

As you know, I like to press people and impose my essay topics on them.

:p

When will these essays be judged?

[Gil-Galad]

Yeah,who will judge the essays?and when?and Melian,chose a topic!:)

[Eöl]

Welcome back G-G! How are you feeling?

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Eöl
Welcome back G-G! How are you feeling?
I'm better now,thank you!I still have an awful cough coming from my bronchi,but it will be in the past soon.:)

[Eöl]

and Melian,chose a topic!

Are you still looking at this thread Melian?:p I think it's time we get the essays judged and start a new topic, don't all of you?

[Eöl]

Since no one responded...grr! That should scare them!:D FoolOfATook has agreed to be a judge; Lhun you judged last time would you like to judge these ones as well?

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Eöl
Are you still looking at this thread Melian?:p I think it's time we get the essays judged and start a new topic, don't all of you?
I agree with you Eöl !Melian where are you?By the way,today I didno't see you at school?!:confused:

[Melian]

Sure. I'm looking forward to the results. I suggest we get someone who hasn't posted an essay here.
If you don't like the "Crime and Punishment" topic, what about trying to write an essay from the name of your favourite character? Let's name it The Confessions or sth like that?!...
For example, you decide you are Turin. And write about 300 words about your feelings and reflections about a certain event or in general. Or you are Manwe and share your views about what's going on in Middle-earth...
If you think that's fun, we may do it?!...

[Eöl]

The "Confessions" idea sounds like an excellent one, Melian! How often does one get to write from the perspective of a Vala?:) FoolOfATook and Anamatar IV have agreed to judge the essays.

[FoolOfATook]

Hi essayists. Expect my judgment sometime in the next week.

[Gil-Galad]

So,when to start the new topic about "The Confessions"?I suggest after the judges decide who is the best essay from the previous topic.

[Eöl]

Sounds good to me, probably sometime the middle of next week then. I'm looking forward to it!

[Lhunithiliel]

Eol, have I understood correctly? Am I to judge again?
If so...I will..You can count on me.

As for the Confessions - topic... I guess this time you might lose me as a judge ;)

'Cause I intent to participate!

You know what will be cool - to have two confessions done by two different people about one and the same character...

I am even tempted to throw in the idea of doing it right in this way... Say, me and FoT (for example) take up the character of .... it really doesn't matter which one ... and we both write our "confessions" and then we compare and then we can have a judge to say which confession was closer to the character as Tolkien himself had thought of it.

What do you say?

[Eöl]

Since there was only three essays, FOAT is the only judge we need this time around, but thanks for the offer Lhun. I didn't realize there were so few essays. Anyhow, I would be willing to do a "double perspective" with someone.

[FoolOfATook]

Essay Contest Judgment!

by FoolofATook

First of all, I'd like to congratulate and commend all three writers, since all of the essays were quite good. To trot out an old cliche, I'm sorry that I can only pick one winner. Stale, but true. ;)

Reading these essays, the first thing that came to mind was Chaucer. Anyone who's had the, errr, "fortune", to read "The Parson's Tale" knows that in the piece, Chaucer put forth the typical medieval theological view that pride was the root of the six other Deadly Sins. Eol's essay most embodied this idea, laying out a very solid case, through the use of documentation, that Feanor's pride was the cause of his downfall.

Gil-Galad took a more ambivalent view of pride, pointing out that it can be a tool of the oppressed to never truly give in to tyrants, while he still acknowledged pride's terrible destructive possibilities. I thought that Gil-Galad's essay was wonderful, and I thought that his examples from his nation's history were very appropriate for his paper. In some ways, I'm disappointed that he did not choose one side or the other, but I also recognize that within the way he chose to frame the argument, no other conclusion seemed to be possible, so I feel that I can't hold his indecision against him.

Melian's essay also focuses on the ambivalent nature of pride, but uses examples from Tolkien to illustrate both sides of the argument. However, I wish she had elaborated more on her examples of positive effects of pride, since as they stand now, I'm not sure that I'm convinced. Melian's essay was, in my opinion, easily the most poetic, and I would like to take a moment to comment on how much I enjoyed simply reading it.

All three essays were good, but ultimately, I believe that Eol's was the best of the three, largely due to his use of documentation, and his decision to take a very firm postion on side of the debate.

(Never done this before- hope this suffices ;))

[Eöl]

Hey, that was quick! Thanks FoaT, now on to the next topic! "The Confessions!" Write an essay from a character's point of view on an event. Not very defined, but that means the possibilities are endless! For example, you could write from the perspective of Manwe on the actions of Feanor, or vice versa, writing from Feanor's perspective on the Valar. How about we have these turned in by May 28th? That's one month from today.


P.S. - Melian, please correct me if I am wrong in any part of my description!

[Gil-Galad]

Ok.I'll post mine by 28th May.And Finduilas,I hope thist time you will participate in the essay-writing.;)

[Finduilas]

EEE!
Of course, I will! After all, I've promised, haven't I? ;)
And moreover, I will write it just during the month of my birthday and I'll have the inspiration!;) :p

[Bethelarien]

Question: Can anybody participate in this, or do you have to be invited?

[FoolOfATook]

Beth- everyone is invited to participate.

Should I assume that I will be tapped for judging duties once more, or do you all prefer to cycle through judges? ;)

[Eöl]

Since there were no other judges, I think you will be the one again. Don't worry, you have a month to recuperate from all that hard work!;)

[FoolOfATook]

Since there were no other judges, I think you will be the one again. Don't worry, you have a month to recuperate from all that hard work!

Okay. I think a month should give my brain enough time to recover. ;)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook

Should I assume that I will be tapped for judging duties once more, or do you all prefer to cycle through judges? ;)
Well,of course you can be a judge again.But I think it would be better if there three judges.I personally think that Lhun and Walter fit best to the role of judges.I've read their things in "The What If"game and I think they are great writes,so they can judge best who has written the best essay.

[Gil-Galad]

WOW!Very Very interesting thoughts Eol.I didn't think Turin had such thoughts and feelings.:p

[FoolOfATook]

Well,of course you can be a judge again.But I think it would be better if there three judges.I personally think that Lhun and Walter fit best to the role of judges.

I'll assume that you mean that Walter and Lhun are the best judges not named "FoolofATook"... ;) :D

Seriously, I think that a panel of three judges would be a good idea, and that both Walter and Lhun are more than qualified to sit on such a panel. (probably more qualified than I am, come to think of it ;))

What do you say Walter and Lhun?

[Eöl]

Walter, yes. Lhun wrote an essay, so I don't know about her. If we get a lot of response and need more than two judges, I think Anamatar IV could help out.

[Lhunithiliel]

Hey, guys, don't make such a fuss about it!
I think 3 is OK, but of course I cannot judge now...I'd put my essay...or whatever it is ;) :D in the first place, after I have had to enter the twilight zone to hear that confession and bring it up to you! :D

As for Walter...ask him. I dunno whether he'll accept or no.

[Walter]

I feel honoured and I gladly accept...if someone could fill me in with the details and I get a couple of days...

[Lhunithiliel]

Good!!!! :D

Now, that we have Walter on the jury, I think that it would be wise to have other two judges ...but preferrably either out-out-of-the-guild (for ex. Maedhros/Nom/Ithrynluin/Nenya/Wonko/Eriol/etc..) or in-guild members who will not participate with essays (I can't say who...).

Thus, FoaT can also participate as well as others, who I know write beautifully! ;)

And Foat, common! You are a wonderful judge! :D But I'd wish to see you more as a writer! ;)

Another thing:
Can I write another confession? Of a different character?
Well, I guess, I shouldn't.... but still ....this topic makes it so amuzing and challenging to "crawl under the skin" of a character!

[Eöl]

But I'd wish to see you more as a writer!

Hey yeah Mr. Fancypants English Major!;) Any of those people will be fine, next time Nom is on MSN I will talk to her about it. If she's not on before the 28th I will PM her.

[FoolOfATook]

The gauntlet has apparently been thrown down, and honour demands that I pick it up. I shall participate in the next essay contest, but I would warn Lhun and Eol about being careful what the wish for.... ;) :D

[Gil-Galad]

Well,I have to announce that I probably will not be able to participate in this time.The deadline is 28 th May,but May 26 I have my graduation party with my school and then wea are going to Sunny Beach.So,I'm very busy these days,and having in mind that we are preparing a great trance party near Plovdiv with Astral Projection,I even do not have time to sleep.

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook
The gauntlet has apparently been thrown down, and honour demands that I pick it up. I shall participate in the next essay contest, but I would warn Lhun and Eol about being careful what the wish for.... ;) :D
Not the next, Master Took! Not the next! NOW you're wanted! :p :D

As for the warning... We'll live and see! :p :p :p :D

And G-G, don't worry! Have fun! Now's the time for it!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Not the next, Master Took! Not the next! NOW you're wanted! :p :D

As for the warning... We'll live and see! :p :p :p :D

And G-G, don't worry! Have fun! Now's the time for it!
I know Lhun it,:cool: :cool: :cool: !!!!!

[Lhunithiliel]

There are a couple of days more left till the final date for submission of your essays on the last topic "Confessions".

I simply CAN'T believe that the Guild lacks skilfull writers more than just 3!

Well?
:rolleyes:

[Gil-Galad]

As I said I would like to particiapte but these weeks I do not have the phsysical ability to participate everywhere,to organize a trance festiaval,to prepare for a graduation party,to fall in love with a girl etc...............if the we make round 2 of the confessions I would very much like to participate representing Finrod Felagund or Feanor.

[Lhunithiliel]

The time for confessions is over. :p

Unfortunately, there were only 3 essays provided.

As far as I remember, the question of who will judge them and issue the winner of this essay-round stopped with Walter's agreeing to be a judge and if I'm not mistaken, we talked about inviting Nom or Maedhros or Anamatar...

Well???

What shall we do?

I'd suggest we finalize this round and wait until G-G returns ....or I may also speak to his faithful Squire - Finduilas to take up the job.

Anyway, we need 3 judges to issue the winner out from the 3 essays-confessions.

VOLUNTEERS?????

[Finduilas]

Don't worry,I'll take it up.You'll have three (two more I guess) wonderful judges in no time.;) :)

[Lhunithiliel]

Thank you, Honourable Squire! :) :D

You're a doll! :D

Then... Can I also ask from you to suggest the topic for the next round?

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Thank you, Honourable Squire! :) :D

You're a doll! :D

Then... Can I also ask from you to suggest the topic for the next round?

Here are the judges:

1.Anamatar
2.Walter
3.Maedhros

I only want to ask you about the 'deadline' of the judgement.Since when should they be posted?:confused:

About the topic,hmm....
How about something like that:

From the idea of creation till the final result.

The topic concerns the initial thoughts of not only our Proffesor but other writers as well and their development till the end of their work.Because there certainly are many changes which are made throughout the process.

Anyway,that's just the topic which I thought of now.If someone else has a better sujestion,please post it!

[Maedhros]

Where are the essays again?

[Finduilas]

They are posted in the Thraed called The Hall of Essays.
The last three ones about the Confessions.

[Eöl]

If someone else has a better sujestion,please post it!

How about we let the winner pick the topic?

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Eöl
How about we let the winner pick the topic?

Yeah,that would probably be the best solution.:)
Thank you,Eol!
Now every participant should think of a topic....:D

[Melian]

Hail!
I just wanted to let you know that the graduation odyssey is over and G.-G. and I are already free to devote time to the essays. He just needs to get some sleep after this frenetic week we've had.....:)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Melian
Hail!
I just wanted to let you know that the graduation odyssey is over and G.-G. and I are already free to devote time to the essays. He just needs to get some sleep after this frenetic week we've had.....:)
Definitely I need some sleep.....:o

[Lantarion]

Schools ended here too (but not indefinately :(), so I might write a little sum'm. ;)
Oh, but I suppose you have to be a member to post your essay though.. Well, I'll write one anyway! :p
Just have to think of a subject now...

[Lhunithiliel]

Lantarion, youe are most welcome to write an essay!

I however wish to ask our honourable (E)squire ;) Finduilas:
My dear, what happened to the judgement of the previous cycle of essays?

And I think it is high time for a new topic.

How about: The power of doom.
Just an idea :rolleyes:

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
I however wish to ask our honourable (E)squire ;) Finduilas:
My dear, what happened to the judgement of the previous cycle of essays?

And I think it is high time for a new topic.

How about: The power of doom.
Just an idea :rolleyes:

Well, they are still:

Anamatar
Walter
Maedhros

I told them and they said there was no problem. I want to ask them to hurry up if possible.

And Lhun the idea is great! I very much like this topic!:)

[Gil-Galad]

The power of doom
seems interesting,but do we have to talk about the doom as a whole or we have to find an example(Turin,Tuor,Beren etc...)and write about it?

[Finduilas]

I really have to clear something out!

WHERE IS THE HALL OF ESSAYS THREAD?!

Don't get me wrong, but it...simply is ..GONE! It's not in the Guild ...or at least I can't find it!
Will someone explain please?!

As for the judges, Anamatar said that he wouldn't be able to judge them due to debate problems.
Now I would really much like the two present judges to hurry up with their decisions...and as for the third one I'll try to find one...AVAILABLE!!!:)

[Finduilas]

I'm very sorry for the double post but I'd like to inquire about the people who actually wrote the three last essays. I remember that one of them was GG and the other two were Melian and Lhun? I'm not sure and I can't find the thread.....:mad:

[Gil-Galad]

ok,here it is:
http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8902

[Finduilas]

Hm...It turns out that the three essays are by Melian, Lhun and Eol...:p
Oh, those judges...I'm waiting for Inderjit's reply but I again want to ask Maedhros and Walter to hurry up cause this thread is dying....:(

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Hm...It turns out that the three essays are by Melian, Lhun and Eol...:p
Oh, those judges...I'm waiting for Inderjit's reply but I again want to ask Maedhros and Walter to hurry up cause this thread is dying....:(
The problem is that everyone is too busy with other activities and especially with the tournament,so don't worry they'll do it.Or at least we can start the new topic without the decision of the judges.

[Finduilas]

No...HUSH!

I finally pursuaded a person!!!!:D

FOAT is our third guy!:p Thank him and God bless you,Fooly!;)

Now let's wait...that's what we can only do.
BTW, where are the judgments going to be posted?

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
No...HUSH!

I finally pursuaded a person!!!!:D

FOAT is our third guy!:p Thank him and God bless you,Fooly!;)

Now let's wait...that's what we can only do.
BTW, where are the judgments going to be posted?
here,where else,that's the work-book.

[Finduilas]

Now, to be sure we have 4 judges.Is there any problem?
Because with these debates many of the mebers are literaly covered with work and have no time left for other activities.
So here we go:

Walter
Maedhros
FOAT
Inderjit S

Read and discuss and then ( soon,please;) ) post your decisions.If ONE of you would not be able do not worry.

[FoolOfATook]

Just to make sure that we're all on the same page- we're judging the "Confessions" essays, right?

[Gil-Galad]

Yes.We are judging them.And the next topic will be
The power of doom
but we still need to clarify some things about it.I'll talk to Lhun to understand what did she mean.The Doom as a whole,or the power of the doom in different characters' cases.

[Walter]

All three "confessions" were very good, I'd like to congratulate all three authors.

However, having to judge I cannot say that all three essays "touched" me equally strong. Hence here is, how I would rank them:

1) Melian
2) Lhunithiliel
3) Eöl

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Walter
All three "confessions" were very good, I'd like to congratulate all three authors.

However, having to judge I cannot say that all three essays "touched" me equally strong. Hence here is, how I would rank them:

1) Melian
2) Lhunithiliel
3) Eöl
At least you have made a choice.Alhtough I'm not in the judges' list I still cannot decide whose essay I like most,and whose essay is the best in my opinion.

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Walter
All three "confessions" were very good, I'd like to congratulate all three authors.

However, having to judge I cannot say that all three essays "touched" me equally strong. Hence here is, how I would rank them:

1) Melian
2) Lhunithiliel
3) Eöl
:( :( :( *sniff.....sniff....* No one loves the wraiths! :D

But, seriously, if I were a judge, Mel's essay was best!

[Finduilas]

OK, here's an updated list of the judgement:

Melian - 6 points

Lhunithiliel - 4 points

Eol - 2 point

* * *
Legend:

First place brings you - 3 points
Second place brings you - 2 points
Third place brings you - 1 point

[Walter]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
At least you have made a choice. You're welcome :)

[Eöl]

Umm...wasn't it decided that the winner would choose the topic? Thus shouldn't it be up to Melian?

[Finduilas]

Yeah, Walter, I wanted to thank you for posting your decision and since you were the first to do it...here's an award!!!

@>->->->->-------

A rose for the winner! ;) :D

[Walter]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Yeah, Walter, I wanted to thank you for posting your decision and since you were the first to do it...here's an award!!!

@>->->->->-------

A rose for the winner! ;) :D Wow, it's been years since I last got an online rose, thank you ;)

Though I agree with you, the winner would deserve this rose more than I do...

[Finduilas]

Walter, there will be two roses: one for you and one for the winner....;)

Hope that the winner will be chosen before the other rose has withered...:rolleyes:

And,hey, I offer an extra plus-if the other judges post their decisions within 3 days.....THEY GET A ROSE TOO!:D

[Gil-Galad]

Walter,the problem is that Melian is very very busy,because she is preparing herself for university admission exams in Bulgarian History(a though job-more than 1300 years history) and she literally doesnot have even time for sleep.What is more,I'm going to publish her biography of Melian.She will give it to me and I'll have to post it.
That is why I decided to write about the topic Lhun had suggested ,cause it is quite interesting and involving in some philosophical spheres of life.
I hope there's no problem.:(

[Eöl]

Heh heh, it was me that suggested the topic should be chosen by Melian, not Walter.;) The topic is fine of course, and we all wish Melian the best of luck on her exams!:)

[Walter]

no problem, guys :)

I perfectly understand how busy things can get and at the moment I can very well relate to that, since my son will have his final high-school exams this thursday....

[FoolOfATook]

Sorry that I don't have more time to write up an official judgment, but in my opinion, Melian's was the best- I think she really captured Maeglin well. It was a tough choice, however, and my congratulations to all three participants.

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook
Sorry that I don't have more time to write up an official judgment, but in my opinion, Melian's was the best- I think she really captured Maeglin well. It was a tough choice, however, and my congratulations to all three participants.

OK, but will you say who you think is the second one.:) So that to give them points.

[FoolOfATook]

It just gets harder and harder... I'd give second place to Lhun, but it's a tough decision to make...

(now shouldn't I be getting a rose right about now, for posting my judgment within the allotted timespan? ;))

[Finduilas]

:D :D LOL! I'll open a store....

Here you are FOAT....

@>->->->->->->->---------

Even longer...:D

Here are the results so far:

http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=323018#post323018

[Melian]

Oh my!
I'm blushing...G-G, you Elf, WHY HAVEN"T YOU TOLD ME I'D WON??!!!
Well, thank you all!:) I'm flattered indeed! But I didn't know it up to this second, so I'm sorry someone had been waiting for me to invent a topic. Anyway, I think I'd come up with 2 topics so far, so no one should be disappointed this time someone else chose it. And the new one is good, really (so you have the winner's consent ;) )!
Thanks for the rose and champagne (was there champagne at all?) and...Bulgarian history is really tough!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Melian
Oh my!
I'm blushing...G-G, you Elf, WHY HAVEN"T YOU TOLD ME I'D WON??!!!

SURPRISE!!!!!!!!

[Maedhros]

After reading the 3 Essays, I have to say that I was most impressed by Melian work on Maeglin.
I would give the second place to Lhun, hers was very good and last to Eöl who did a fine job, but I felt that it followed the Narn too closely.

[Melian]

Folks, I have a suggestion. I've got the offer of your lifetime...:)
Well, I might be a judge in the next round of the essays if you don't mind. I'll be too busy to write one myself, so it would be my honour to criticise and justify. Say you like me, pleeeease!

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Melian
Folks, I have a suggestion. I've got the offer of your lifetime...:)
Well, I might be a judge in the next round of the essays if you don't mind. I'll be too busy to write one myself, so it would be my honour to criticise and justify. Say you like me, pleeeease!

I like you..!:)
And I vote for you for a judge!:)

[Gil-Galad]

And I want to ba a judge.I've never been a judge so it would be a great honour for me to judge who has writte the best essay.;)

[Lhunithiliel]

And who then will WRITE??? :(

Oh! My dear Maia Queen, I WOULD HAVE you as a judge most gladly!!! :D

For your information, BTW, I'm going to enter Mel/s winning essay in the knowledgebase of Wiki. It deserves its place there! :)

[Melian]

Unfortunately, I won't be able to compose anything reasonable, I feel it. Right now, I'm turning into a History Geek a month before my univrsity admission exams. Sure, I can be really prolific if you are interested in early Medieval matters, but I doubt the case is such. :)

Seriously, being a judge is the only way I can take part this time. And, Lhun, thank you.:)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
And who then will WRITE??? :(

Oh! My dear Maia Queen, I WOULD HAVE you as a judge most gladly!!! :D

For your information, BTW, I'm going to enter Mel/s winning essay in the knowledgebase of Wiki. It deserves its place there! :)
You,I hope Lant will write something,Eriol too,and some of the new members would probably try to write something interesting.

[Lhunithiliel]

And the topic is.......??????????????? :p :D

[Manveru]

Yeah...what's the topic?

I'd like to try myself out and challenge with the best, too:D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
And the topic is.......??????????????? :p :D
............????????????and the topic is.........????:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Melian]

Oh my! You don't have a topic?! As far as I remember, it was "The Powerof Doom", wasn't it?
If you don't like this, where are the suggestions?

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Melian
Oh my! You don't have a topic?! As far as I remember, it was "The Powerof Doom", wasn't it?
If you don't like this, where are the suggestions?
Of course I like this topic.Shall we put it ?

[Finduilas]

The topic is fine with me. When do we start and when's the deadline?

[Gil-Galad]

From today?!
July 5th 2003?
and the deadline is :
August 5th 2003
Good luck to all.

[Melian]

This threadneeds dusting off and bringing back to Page 1!!!!
Obviously the last round of essay writing didn't happen.
But now you should put pen to paper at last, for The Guild's Birthday Party is approaching and needs you!!!!!

Please,take a moment to think about the event and try your best to compose anything- an essay, apoem, a short story, or just your stream of conscience to pay your tribute to the gulid in the thread Memebres Contributions!

[Finduilas]

I posted an essay on the Previous topic. I started it a while ago but finished it now.I'm sorry for the delay.
Anyway, so from now on we can write whatever we like, is that right?:)

[Lhunithiliel]

Great mini-essays, fair Finduilas!
But why is this gloomy spirit? :p

All right.... Away with the dark thoughts!
Let's think about pleasant things! :D

AND WRITE about them! :D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Great mini-essays, fair Finduilas!
But why is this gloomy spirit? :p

All right.... Away with the dark thoughts!
Let's think about pleasant things! :D

AND WRITE about them! :D
pleasant things?I can't see them these days:( :(

[Finduilas]

Amm...will someone write something joyful?
I can write something gloomy again but it seems it's not welcome here...;):D:D just kidding...:rolleyes:

I recently wrote a kind of letter to Love it's very short but says quite a lot of truths.
If you want I may translate and post it here.

[Lhunithiliel]

Oh, Findi, I so very much hope your call is heard and listened to and...followed... :)

And please, DO write that essay! :D

[Finduilas]

LOL!
Lhun, that essay really made me think...deeply!;)
It was just perfect!
Type another one....;):p

[Melian]

I'd like to ask a few questions.
some time ago I suggested that I be a judge to the next round of essays. Since the Guild was experiencing some summer nap, and this event didn't happen, do we still 'compete' and 'judge', or is this only for the pleasure? It's all right for me either way, because it means I can participate too. Given I no longer have to study for exams, I can devote my time to it....What do you say?

But if you insist on judging, we should think of a new deadline (for flattering and bribing the judge, of course, that would be me :) ).

And. Ladies, I know you've heard it before---but----you really have a gift!

Lhun., your essay so much reminds me of a favourite Shakespearean sonnet! Beautiful.

[Manveru]

All right. I posted my first 'few words' in the "Hall of Essays" thread. My 'essay' doesn't look like a piece of writing, which can claim such name (it looks to me... hmm, I don't know what to think of it... it's "sth";)), but I hope it fits in these halls...

[Finduilas]

A lovely piece of writing, Manveru. It's a little sorrowful in the beginning but there also is this fine optimistic idea of a new life with a new Sun. Very optimistic indeed and absolutely suitable for here. :)

Btw, :rolleyes: let me guess, is it devoted to...hmm...Melian?

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Finduilas
A lovely piece of writing, Manveru. It's a little sorrowful in the beginning but there also is this fine optimistic idea of a new life with a new Sun. Very optimistic indeed and absolutely suitable for here. :)

Btw, :rolleyes: let me guess, is it devoted to...hmm...Melian?
A wild guess, huh? You naughty, naughty girl;):D

BTW: THX for kind words of criticism... It means a lot to me that my 'tiny works' are accepted. THX again.

[Melian]

It's hard to utter any sensible sentence after I read that, Manveru...I only wanted to tell you this:
...Not alone.I'll be there, tell me when you wanna go....

And maybe I'll be too subjective a judge, so I suggest that I resign from my 'post' now or that these essays are not judged at all.:)

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Melian
It's hard to utter any sensible sentence after I read that, Manveru...I only wanted to tell you this:
...Not alone.I'll be there, tell me when you wanna go....

...You're the reason I'm in this world...

:D

[Melian]

I'm grateful you came here.
I think you'll make a lot of good contributions to the Creative Endeavours hall, so see you there (and in Nan Emloth tonight, of course).:)

[Lhunithiliel]

***cough...cough.... Uuuuuhhhhh.... May I interrupt these kind and sweet words of arranging dates etc....:p :D just to say...
Manveru, BEAUTIFUL!!! Your essay.... Oh! Really! So touching!...

[Manveru]

Thank You, thank You, thank You...
Wow! A lot of kindness as for one day.:D

[Lhunithiliel]

A vision from Findi's essay

[Lhunithiliel]

A vision from Manveru's essay ;) ;) ;)

[Manveru]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

You read my mind like an open book...
(Shouldn't I have to be scared? I thought only one person can do this... I think wraiths have their own methods;) Is my mind so clear to everyone? Who/What am I thinking of right now?;))

Beautiful, Lhun... really amazing (and so fitting).:D

[Lhunithiliel]

:X

LOL

I am glad you like it! :)

As for the rest.... so what if I do...what if others do... What would you care! What is "tormenting" you now is beautiful! Live it! Don't ever think what others might think or say! :)

[Finduilas]

Lhun, you DO read minds!!!...or we have gift to describe vividly...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: hehe:D
Kidding.

But the picture is perfect, love it, adore it...
You have indeed captured the moment of my dreams...

[Lhunithiliel]

Ah, ....reading minds... It is easy when others find the best way to reveal their mind .... as you did ! :p :D

drjekil_bg , I liked very much your story....in fact the beginning of your book (I suppose)! :)
Say, have you written more? Do you think it will be too much of a work for you to keep translating and posting here further chapters? :)

[Melian]

Originally posted by Manveru
:eek: :eek: :eek:

You read my mind like an open book...
(Shouldn't I have to be scared? I thought only one person can do this... I think wraiths have their own methods;) Is my mind so clear to everyone? Who/What am I thinking of right now?;))

Beautiful, Lhun... really amazing (and so fitting).:D

Fitting, indded. Perhaps she won't need to think of another collage for my essay.:)

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Melian
Fitting, indded. Perhaps she won't need to think of another collage for my essay.:)
I'd like to say only this:

Fly away on my Zephyr
I feel it more than ever
And in this perfect weather
We'll find a place together
Fly on my wing

:D

BTW: Melian, check Your email, please...

[Melian]

Will you stay with me
Will you be my love
Among these fields of barley?
We'll forget the sun
In his jealous sky
As we lie in fields of gold....

I checked it.;)
Thank you.

[Gil-Galad]

OHhhh I can smell the love in the air..................the love between two young people !!!!;)

[Starflower]

oooooooooooooh!!!

all the best for the young couple !!!!


:)

Starflower

[Lhunithiliel]

Ah L O V E ....... :rolleyes: ;)

Anyway....Let us leave those two alone 'cause they need privacy ;) :D

Now.... I'm changing the subject of the next "round" of essays - from love I switch to war!

"War in Tolkien works" - this is the subject of some long lasting research that I'm about to undertake. But in relation to it, a while ago I asked a few people to write essays on this topic.

In our Hall of Essays I have just published two of them as they were written by two of our most estimated members - Gate and Eriol :)

The topic is open to more interpretations = essays and to your comments here in this thread (the other one will be only for essays, remember).

All right.......... Let's speak about wars! :cool:

[Gil-Galad]

Wars?!Very very,very interesting I would say!Finally I may write something after a break of about 8 months!I like the topic,if I have some more free time I'll write something,I promise!;) :p :cool:
And what can I say about Gate's work.It's a masterpiece,and I think Lhun should publish it in The Hall of Lectures because it is a real lecture!

[Melian]

PEACE !!!!! PEACE, oh people! Let your hands build, not destroy!!!!
:D :D :D
OK, I guess I'm a bit distracted these days. Seriously, I can't write about wars...so I may a judge at last?! You can recruit Manveru, too.;) ....

[drjekil_bg]

Originally posted by Melian
PEACE !!!!! PEACE, oh people! Let your hands build, not destroy!!!!
:D :D :D
OK, I guess I'm a bit distracted these days. Seriously, I can't write about wars...so I may a judge at last?! You can recruit Manveru, too.;) ....
Well its not necessary to write exactly about wars(i think so).If you cant write about wars but for piece then write about piece and how not to make war and how the wars in Tokien's works could not have happened

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Melian
PEACE !!!!! PEACE, oh people! Let your hands build, not destroy!!!!
:D :D :D
OK, I guess I'm a bit distracted these days. Seriously, I can't write about wars...so I may a judge at last?! You can recruit Manveru, too.;) ....
:eek: You wanna see me in the army, my lovely Maia?!;) No, thanx. But maybe I can 'bring some thoughts together' and write about wars and post it in here...

PS. Hmm... you'll be the judge for this round, right Mel? *whispers* In this case... Is that 'bribing-thing' still up-to-date?;)

[Gil-Galad]

I may write something not exactly about wars.....
It will be a kind mixture between "the confessions" and the war.Something like the thoughts of Fingon before his last battle.We'll see...........;)

[drjekil_bg]

I want to say something, is not connected with topic and i am not sure that this is the right place but anyway.I know that in some of my posts they are mistakes.I am sorry about that but i hope that everyone will understand that for almost 2 years i was studing french hard and i think its normal to have some mistakes.So if anyone have prblems with my writing please let send me a pm and i hope will find a way to make things work out

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by drjekil_bg
I want to say something, is not connected with topic and i am not sure that this is the right place but anyway.I know that in some of my posts they are mistakes.I am sorry about that but i hope that everyone will understand that for almost 2 years i was studing french hard and i think its normal to have some mistakes.So if anyone have prblems with my writing please let send me a pm and i hope will find a way to make things work out
Don't worry everybody makes mistakes,even the professors in English language.Having in mind that you've been learning English for an year I would say your English is very good actually.What about me?I've learned English for more than five years and still it's as good as I would like it to be!
Don't worry just write slower and check your posts,just like me ;)

[Manveru]

Yeah... it's not the thing you have to be ashamed of... after all, nobody's perfect.;)
The good thing is that you want to write, to use the language (practice makes perfect;)) actively... keep doing so!:D

BTW: If you're affraid of making too many mistakes, try to write your posts in Microsoft Word editor. Just set an appropriate language and it will 'mark' a spelling mistake every time it's needed. It is also helpful with correcting mistakes as the programme can suggest you how the word should look like.

[drjekil_bg]

10x guys.You are the best:D

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
I may write something not exactly about wars.....
It will be a kind mixture between "the confessions" and the war.Something like the thoughts of Fingon before the his last battle.We'll see...........;)
Great theme... I guess we think alike, though I was going to write about Fingolfin's (he's my fave High King;)) 'view' of this topic... I guess I won't post in this round (I think I'll pass, since Melian is going to be a judge...she might be 'harsh' with me;)--kidding:D).

Oh! and drjekil_bg... You're welcome:D.

[Melian]

Originally posted by Manveru
:eek: You wanna see me in the army, my lovely Maia?!;) No, thanx. But maybe I can 'bring some thoughts together' and write about wars and post it in here...

PS. Hmm... you'll be the judge for this round, right Mel? *whispers* In this case... Is that 'bribing-thing' still up-to-date?;)

Oh, yes, I'll be harsh!!!! (Unless...you know...we can arrange it some other way...in a pm...;) ).
Why don't you join me as a judge?! Seriously.
Oh, I forgot---perhaps you have something to write---ok, go ahead. I' m usually fair.:)

[Gil-Galad]

ok Manveru,you can write for Fingolfin and I will write for Fingon,and I know your essay will be "Simply the best".Actually I have a better idea,we all can write about the thoughts of the greatest High Kings before their last battles.It will be very interesting to read every High King's thoughts!What would you say?
We have:
Fingolfin -by Manveru
Fingon -by Gil-Galad
Finrod -by ????? (probably Nom will be interested)
Feanor -by ????(Lhun,you love Feanor!)
Turgon -by ?????
Gil-Galad -by ???(hey,who is going to write about me,I want only great and brave thoughts!!!!!:p )

[Manveru]

I say: Get this party...errr writing started!:D

I'm off to delve deep, even deeper than ever... into Fingolfin's mind (hope I'll EXCAVATE sth of any interest to you all;)).

Oh! and "simply the best"? Let's wait what our judge shall say;).

How much time do we have on 'delving'?;)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Manveru
I say: Get this party...errr writing started!:D

I'm off to delve deep, even deeper than ever... into Fingolfin's mind (hope I'll EXCAVATE sth of any interest to you all;)).

Oh! and "simply the best"? Let's wait what our judge shall say;).

How much time do we have on 'delving'?;)

Excavate?Oh I think Melain can help you best with excavating anything!

And also,having in mind that Melian is a kind of judge,I think that you won't face any difficulties in becomming the winner;) :p !

I suppose that a month is ok?
Do you think it is too long period?

[Melian]

Since I've been always judged by far, and never been a judge mysefl, I have some questions/suggestions.

Well, I'm not quite aware if we have a certain judging system here, so forgive me if I'm saying sth already said somewhere else. I guess it's not right to have one judge only. So first of all, I need other 'jury members'---and perhaps we have to be an uneven number. Three, at least.

Secondly, I suggest that each one of the judges give 3, 2 or 1 pt. to the essays s/he considers to be respectively on the First, Second and Third place.
When the results are ready, we'll notify you how many points you've got. If there are people who've got the same score, we'll invite another judge.

I also suggest that we judges use the pm system to let each other know what are our evaluations on the essays. At announcing the winners, we'll give you a brief review of your essays, and our comments on the scores.

So...who are my colleagues? Or rather, who's going to notify me that all this has been established long ago?:)

Good luck you all!

[Gil-Galad]

I think,or actually I hope my essay will be ready on Monday and I'll post it Monday evening!

[Manveru]

All right... I guess (having good winds;)) I'll be ready with my essay for tomorrow... maybe sooner (nay... that's impossible... wait a sec, nothing's impossible;)).

*flies away to finish his work*

[Gil-Galad]

Great Manv!!!I'm ready with my work,and tonight I WILL finally post it!;)

[Manveru]

So far, so good, Gil-Galad... but I hoped for "a little" more than just a title and one sentence. Is that all?;)---KIDDING:D:D:D

*waiting in anxiety for more*

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Manveru
So far, so good, Gil-Galad... but I hoped for "a little" more than just a title and one sentence. Is that all?;)---KIDDING:D:D:D

*waiting in anxiety for more*
No,no,no,that's not all.I didn't want to click on "submit reply" ,but it happened.But now it is posted.

I would like to say some words about it.It's divided into three parts.The first one is when Fingon is with his army,waiting for the sunrise.The seconde one is when he sees the smoke going up from Thangorodim and the last one is when he hears his brother's trumpet!!!

These three part reveal all the thoughts he is having during the different moments before hte battle.

It's not so good ,but I did my best.

Having in mind the latest news from Happennings in The Guild I would like to dedicate this essay to my best friend and beloved sister Finduilas.I hope you will be back soon sis!I miss you!

[Manveru]

Sorry for not posting my essay today. I know I 'promised' to be ready for tonight... I've nearly finished it, but I haven't slept enough for a few nights in a row and... I think I'm totally weary (archs can get tired, too, I guess;)). I guess underslept arch isn't helpful in anything...

Sorry again. I'll post my essay as soon as I wake up (in two days time;)--kidding:D). If it will be too late for it to be judged, that's ok... don't wait. (alllll righty then... my fingers start to disobey so I'll finish right here... I don't want to make too many mistakes;)).

[Gil-Galad]

Finally!Finally I had the chance to read Fingofin's last thoughts.hmhmmh impressive really!!
Manv,I wonder whether somebody has told you that you could be a writer!!!

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Finally!Finally I had the chance to read Fingofin's last thoughts.hmhmmh impressive really!!
Manv,I wonder whether somebody has told you that you could be a writer!!!
Nope... you're the first one:D. THX.

And c'mon... can it be that good? (don't read that... one 'special' person thinks I'm "a cunning arch", so now I'm probably trying this on you (and all who'll read this);)

I think all essays are worthy of reading... they're simply GREAT.

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Manveru
[BI think all essays are worthy of reading... they're simply GREAT. [/B]
..........Correct!!!!;)

[Lhunithiliel]

This is the tyrant speaking...

I might be bloodthirsty, vengeful, arrogant, tyranical etc...
But one is for sure - I haven't lost my sense for beauty.

And I just wanted to tell you guys, that your essays are just wonderful! I enjoyed reading them very much!
You both seem to have very good abilities to express attitude and this is what a reader looks for in an essay - information + attitude!

Marvellously done!

[Gil-Galad]

WOWWOWWOW!
Look who's speaking!The Wraith is satisfied with us!Am I mistaken or not?Is it possible?:) :D ;)

[Manveru]

Try "pinching" yourself... maybe you're not fully awake;):D

BTW: Where's that tyrant that is mentioned above? I don't see any? Do you, GG?

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel:
And I just wanted to tell you guys, that your essays are just wonderful! I enjoyed reading them very much!
You both seem to have very good abilities to express attitude and this is what a reader looks for in an essay - information + attitude!
It's a PURE pleasure just to be able to write for such an audience!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Manveru
Try "pinching" yourself... maybe you're not fully awake;):D

BTW: Where's that tyrant that is mentioned above? I don't see any? Do you, GG?


It's a PURE pleasure just to be able to write for such an audience!
An audience like Melian?I'm sure it's a real pleasure for you Manv.!!!
And about the tyrant?Yes I see one every day during my lectures,but not here.:mad:

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
An audience like Melian?I'm sure it's a real pleasure for you Manv.!!!
Well, Mr. High King... (did it sound angry enough?;)).

Seriously... I meant ALL who (at least in a teeny tiny way) enjoy my 'works'. BIG THX for YOU. As for Maia Queen...

I'm not going to say anything concerning Melian (not now at least;)). I don't want anybody to feel like I'm trying to bribe the judge... no way;) I'm a 'true' boy-scout:p:D

[Finduilas]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Hmmmm...

I think she's already bribed...deep deep in her heart! :D:D:D

But don't worry, your essays are marvellous (I mean both of you!)!

[drjekil_bg]

Yes i just red them and i love them.G-G , Manveru great jobb!!

[Gil-Galad]

Hey,what's happenning witt the other essays?
What about Finrod and Turgon and Feanor?Who will make them?Volunteers?:( :(

[Manveru]

Well, G-G, I guess we startled "potential" volunteers with our "works of art"...
Originally posted by Finduilas:
(...) your essays are marvellous (I mean both of you!)!
See?;)

C'mon, ya all... you can beat us... just try (die trying... it's useless anyway---kidding:D I'm trying only to coax others to write. Maybe my 'false' feeling of pride and 'being the best' will help, dunno... did it? Has anyone, reading this, already felt an 'impuls' to write and "dethrone" us? Yes? Oh, goodie! Bring them on:D)

:D

[Gil-Galad]

I know there are people like Lhun and Eriol who can write real works of art!
I want to see their essays here!:cool:

[Finduilas]

Ok...I'll take the risk to try Gil-Galad! :rolleyes:

Do you give it to me, bro? :D

I'm, however, nervous that you wouldn't be satisfied... :(

[Manveru]

C'mon, little one:D.
We're awaiting your "dare"...

:D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Finduilas
Ok...I'll take the risk to try Gil-Galad! :rolleyes:

Do you give it to me, bro? :D

I'm, however, nervous that you wouldn't be satisfied... :(
Oh,my beloved sister!!!I'm glad you took my last battle!!I know you will manage to do it!!

Hey, I'm supposed to have the greatest thoughts ever,you know I'm the last High King !! :D :D :D

[Melian]

Rise, o people!
Her honour (your judge) has enetered this Internet club...(do you shiver?!)..to ask you:

When's the deadline to judge btw?:D :D :D
And..any volunteers for two more judges ( see, I'm tired of those rumours about me and that blue angel and of you calling me bribed...don't you know I am VERY bribed and SUBJECTIVE?!:D :D :D )...C'mon...seond and third places are also prestigeous...you still have time to strive to them!!!:D :D :D

Now, seriously---does anyone wanna judge with me?

[Gil-Galad]

I suppose you can ask Ithrynluin,he awlays enjoys participating in such kinds of things.You can also ask Maedhros or Nym.Just send them a pm and ask them to help you.You are the judge,it's your responsibility to do it.:) ;) :p :cool:

[Melian]

Relax everybody, you'll have the results on Nov 10!!!
I've sent out invitations, the jury needs a little time to discuss your works! Bribing time starts!!!:D :D :D

[Manveru]

Ahem... sorry to interrupt, fair lady, but I think we should wait a little longer... 'cos our little devil, Findi, decided to participate.

Or...

Maybe she'll do hers on time? (I hope so:D).

BTW: If sb else is working on her/his essay, it would be good to say it in here... cause we all can wait, but we have to know whether our awaiting isn't in vain... pls, tell us. Is sb working on Turgon's, Finrod's and Feanor's essays?

[Gil-Galad]

I am afraid nobody else will participate ........This is really sad,because the topic seems to be extremely interesting,it is not someting usual to read the last thoughts of the Greatest Noldorian Kings and Princes....I do think we need some more time Melian...give Findi some more days,ok?

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
I do think we nedd some more time Melian...give Findi some more days,ok?
I'll try to "talk her out" of this "haste";)
But I promise nothing...

:D

And yes, it's really sad that noone else wants to participate... such a great Noldorin guys left... c'mon... it's not that hard, but if noone is interested... well, whatever... I don't want to blah, blah, blah again...

Good luck, Findi (]:->;)).

[Gil-Galad]

Ok then,let's wait for Findi's essay and of course enjoy reading it!!!!

[Lhunithiliel]

I did Feanor, Gentlemen...and Ladies ;)

Read and weep! For I gave you the last thoughts of the Greatest Elf ever ! :(

[Gil-Galad]

What an essay!Oo mighty Wraith this essay is really hot.Every single word is like fire coming from Feanor's heart!!!!
I'm glad I had the chance to read the last thoughts of the greatest elf ever!!

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
I did Feanor, Gentlemen...and Ladies ;)

Read and weep! For I gave you the last thoughts of the Greatest Elf ever ! :(
Greatest Elf ever?! C'mon... (sorry --> mad Fingolfin's fan: Curse you, Feanor! Curse your folly!)

But I can agree with one thing: this is the Greatest Essay ever!:D I read, but didn't weep (my browser don't even 'show' those sad frowns--kidding... as always:D).

Btw, boss... I was just fooling around with that "dethroning" stuff, but I guess you took it seriously... I feel "crushed"--like Fingolfin under the Black One's foot;)

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Manveru

Btw, boss... I was just fooling around with that "dethroning" stuff, but I guess you took it seriously... I feel "crushed"--like Fingolfin under the Black One's foot;)
I feel exactlu like you.Totally crushed,just like Fingon........

[Manveru]

Well... let's hope Findi's essay will be even better...
I wonder... whether Lhun will 'burn to ash' then:p;) (just like Feanor did).
Hmm... interesting, isn't it, boss?

Alright... I think that it's enough of 'fooling around' (just for awhile... a little while;)). "Be serious, arch!!" (yeah, right;)).

:D:D:D

[Gil-Galad]

To tell you the truth Findi can write something great,especially when she's got an inspiration.She is such an artistic and talented girl.......;) :cool:

[Manveru]

Well... really? That little devil? Impossible;)

(Quiz: Am I being serious now?:D)

[Lhunithiliel]

LOL boys, what a storm of opinions! :D

Thanks for liking it!

All I did was to read a couple of things in the good old thread "What if" and the inspiration came... and I just felt like..."Why not"... you know...

Believe me (especially you, Blue Angel! :p ) I did not do it to compete...It's like the drawing stuff...It comes...and I do it...

I miss so much our stories in the "What if"... :(


AND

FEANOR IS THE GREATEST ELF EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel

FEANOR IS THE GREATEST ELF EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




THAT IS RIGHT!!!!!!

[Manveru]

OK, you guys (wraiths, high kings and whomever else). Now I feel overwhelmed (small and scared... mommy!!;))... gosh, everybody's shouting;). I don't want to change this fine thread in sth like "who likes Feanor and who don't" thing... Am I the only Tolkienologist who doesn't 'give a damn' about this character? (after all, what's the big deal? Greatest Elf ever... blah blah;) because he made those 'little lamps that no one could ever turn off' or those 'funny oval tv screens with sound constantly down'?:p;):D

[Gil-Galad]

Manveru if you think you will feel better,I say that you are the greatest BLUE ANGEL ever!!

[Manveru]

Probably because I'm the only one you know, Your Highness;)... I wonder if there were two of us... or five... or... thousands...

OK... I guess we "strode off" from the main path of this thread. Let's get back before someone gets lost...

:D

[Nóm]

Hey guys,

Melian sent a PM inviting me to judge essays. Sounds like fun and I will get to it right away but I have a question: Exactly which ones will I be judging from the essay thread?

And I am guessing Finduilas's will be the last submission of this round?

[Manveru]

Hey, another female judge... that's good (smile, GG. The first impression's most important:D).
Welcome in these Halls!
Originally posted by Nóm:
Melian sent a PM inviting me to judge essays. Sounds like fun and I will get to it right away but I have a question: Exactly which ones will I be judging from the essay thread?
Well... this round of essays was supposed to be about 'wars and stuff like that' and opened by two fabulous essays by Gate and Eriol. Then we, me and that High King (his idea--great one, btw), began the 'High King-last-thoughts' revolution (also on the subject of wars, but I guess a little different from the previous ones--which are more of a scholarly oulook). So I guess all the essays (starting from Gate's--posted by Lhun;)) are waiting to be judged...

Originally posted by Nóm:
And I am guessing Finduilas's will be the last submission of this round?
I guess so... Finrod and Turgon are "left behind"... unfortunatelly. Seems like no one else wants to participate...

Have a nice reading "session", judge:D.

[Lhunithiliel]

Nom, don't listen to angels!
Whenever they descend to earth they get dizzy and can't have a clear view on things! :p :p :D :D

In fact... the essays to be judged are the ones that could be called "fiction in its wildest flight" ;) - the "last thoughts"- essays.

The "schollary" essays by Eriol and gate just don't match on any level with the "fiction" - character of the last three.

So... the ones you shall have to look at are the last three (so far) and possibly there will be a fourth one by Finduilas.

[Manveru]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Nom, don't listen to angels!
Whenever they descend to earth they get dizzy and can't have a clear view on things! :p :p :D :D
Dizzy? Well... you caught me once more, mommy;).
I guess too much of ambrosy or/and that "barley stuff"...

(Oh, I'll just shut up...)

:D

[Lhunithiliel]

Ah! The ambrosy has nothing to do in your case, my angel! :)

Other things make your head go spinning and your heart dance in wild rhythms ! ;) :p :D

"Mommy" knows it best! :p

[Gil-Galad]

I think that Finduilas will be the last one who will post her essay.But I know you like Finrod,Nom,so if you want you can write his last thoughts.You know it's not about judging but about pleasure,so if you think you will have nice moments writing Finrod's last thought,just go fo it!It will be a great honour for us to read it !!!

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
FEANOR IS THE GREATEST ELF EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saying that is a profanity on TTF. Evil-doers will be punished. It's true, it's in the...um...rules and stuff. :D

Anyway, Melian invited me to be one of the judges for the essays. I am feeling exceedingly lazy at the moment, which is why I'll kick back and let someone tell me which essays I'd have to judge.

[Gil-Galad]

I'm glad you will judge Ithy.The essays you have to read are the last essay of mine(about Fingon's last thoughts)Manveru's one(about Fingolfin's last thoughts),Lhun's one(Feanor of course)and probably Findulas will post an essay these days.;) :p

[Lhunithiliel]

Most welcome, Ithy! :D

First, to answer your question, as I did to Nom's same one (you...lazy ....! :p :D )
...the ones you shall have to look at are the last three (so far) and possibly there will be a fourth one by Finduilas.
...that is to say, the "fiction" "last thoughts"- essays.

As for Feanor.... Well...I just can't help it! This character inspires me so much whenever I read about him! I guess I have a crush on tragic characters... Like my other "champion" - Aldarion of Numenor.... and later ... Boromir of Gondor... :rolleyes:
I just love them!

[Ithrynluin]

Great. Am looking forward to the task!

[Manveru]

Welcome to our third judge!
Enjoy reading, ithrynluin!
Originally posted by Lhunithiliel:
As for Feanor.... Well...I just can't help it! This character inspires me so much whenever I read about him! I guess I have a crush on tragic characters... Like my other "champion" - Aldarion of Numenor.... and later ... Boromir of Gondor...
I just love them!
That's so... tragic, boss;).

:D

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
I have a crush on tragic characters... Like my other "champion" - Aldarion of Numenor.... and later ... Boromir of Gondor... :rolleyes:
I just love them!
And what about me?!?! .....:( :( :( :mad:

[Finduilas]

I posted the last thoughts of Beren. It is not a long work but I stated there everything I feel about the problem. I hope you like it.:)

Read..:)

[Gil-Galad]

Wow,this essay really impressed me much!!!!!It is going to be very difficult judging.....some people(the judges of course will have lots of headaches!).

Findi ,are you in love my beloved elf?In me??!!!I knew it !!!!!!!
;) :p ;) :p

[Finduilas]

Originally posted by Gil-Galad
Wow,this essay really impressed me much!!!!!It is going to be very difficult judging.....some people(the judges of course will have lots of headaches!).

Findi ,are you in love my beloved elf?In me??!!!I knew it !!!!!!!
;) :p ;) :p

:o OMG! I thought you would never guess!!! :D:D:D

Btw, thanks.:)

[Gil-Galad]

ok,let's the judges do their job now!!Have a nice time reading these magnificent essays!!!

[Manveru]

I read that "little sth" from a "little one" and... I'm still staring at the screen with a huge "jaw-drop"... it's good I don't have to say anything right now (just write;)).

I thought a little as to post any comment right now, before the judges will read and decide, but... what a heck;)

Good job, you "destructive" lover:D.

[Gil-Galad]

Mel,can you ask the judges to read the essays and take decisions ASAP?

I would like a new topic to be started!!Christmas is coming,so we will probably need a kind of Christmas topic,any ideas?:)

[Finduilas]

How about:

Christmas miracles - touch the real world, touch your soul.

This topic suggests a revealing of the author's attitude towards Christmas miracles - whether he/she believes they do happen or exist only in our souls, looking for hope.

[Eledhwen]

Letters from Father Christmas, by JRR Tolkien

Between the years 1920 and 1943, the children of J. R. R. Tolkien received some of the most unique mail every Christmas that a child could ever hope for: letters from Father Christmas himself! Beautifully illustrated and delivered in various ways, they told of all kinds of things that happened at the North Pole, and about the folk who lived there with Santa. There is the accident-prone and rather sleepy North Polar Bear and his two cousins who cause havoc, the evil goblins, and of course the elves and gnomes, not to mention snowfolk and cave bears. The letters came, or so it is claimed by those who don't believe in Father Christmas, from the Tolkien children's father, J.R.R. Tolkien himself.

I haven't read them yet, but now seems a good time to start.