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Starflower
09-17-2004, 10:13 AM
Merry led the pony over a gangway on to the ferry, and the others
followed. Merry then pushed slowly off with a long pole. The Brandywine flowed slow and broad before them. On the other side the bank was steep, and up it a winding path climbed from the further landing. Lamps were twinkling there.
Behind loomed up the Buck Hill; and out of it, through stray shrouds of mist,
shone many round windows, yellow and red. They were the windows of Brandy Hall, the ancient home of the Brandybucks.
Long ago Gorhendad Oldbuck, head of the Oldbuck family, one of the oldest
in the Marish or indeed in the Shire, had crossed the river, which was the
original boundary of the land eastwards. He built (and excavated) Brandy Hall,
changed his name to Brandybuck, and settled down to become master of what was virtually a small independent country. His family grew and grew, and after his days continued to grow, until Brandy Hall occupied the whole of the low hill, and had three large front-doors, many side-doors, and about a hundred windows. The Brandybucks and their numerous dependants then began to burrow, and later to build, all round about. That was the origin of Buckland, a thickly inhabited strip between the river and the Old Forest, a sort of colony from the Shire. Its chief village was Bucklebury, clustering in the banks and slopes behind Brandy Hall.
The people in the Marish were friendly with the Bucklanders, and the
authority of the Master of the Hall (as the head of the Brandybuck family was
called) was still acknowledged by the farmers between Stock and Rushey. But
most of the folk of the old Shire regarded the Bucklanders as peculiar, half
foreigners as it were. Though, as a matter of fact, they were not very
different from the other hobbits of the Four Farthings. Except in one point:
they were fond of boats, and some of them could swim.
Their land was originally unprotected from the East; but on that side
they had built a hedge: the High Hay. It had been planted many generations
ago, and was now thick and tail, for it was constantly tended. It ran all the
way from Brandywine Bridge, in a big loop curving away from the river, to
Haysend (where the Withywindle flowed out of the Forest into the Brandywine):well over twenty miles from end to end. But, of course, it was not a complete protection. The Forest drew close to the hedge in many places. The Bucklanders kept their doors locked after dark, and that also was not usual in the Shire.
This is probably the most detailed description of any part of the Shire found in the book. Buckland makes me think of Wales, a small 'independent country' west of the main settlement, widely regarded as 'odd' by the majority. :)
This passage also seems to explain why Frodo's claim that he was moving to Buckland was taken seriously, and why he would choose to make that claim - it is easy to blend in and 'disappear' amongst the numerous Brandybucks.
Then we see the house in Crickhollow - a small idyllic cottage- and Frodo feels for the first time the burden of keeping his secret from his dear friends:
Frodo looked round. It did look like home. Many of his own favourite
things – or Bilbo's things (they reminded him sharply of him in their new
selling) – were arranged as nearly as possible as they had been at Bag End. It
was a pleasant, comfortable, welcoming place; and he found himself wishing
that he was really coming here to settle down in quiet retirement. It seemed
unfair to have put his friends to all this trouble; and he wondered again how
he was going to break the news to them that he must leave them so soon, indeed at once. Yet that would have to be done that very night, before they all went to bed. 'It's delightful!' he said with an effort. 'I hardly feel that I have moved at all.'
Then follows another delightful passage that is full of the innocence and exuberance of young hobbits with no cares in the world, involving young Pippin and a lot of spilled bathwater! Then they settle down for dinner with Mrs Maggot's mushrooms and Frodo gets anxious as the time nears to tell his friends that he is going to leave them. But before Frodo gets it off his chest-something quite unexpected happens:
'Well!' said Frodo at last, sitting up and straightening his back, as if
he had made a decision. 'I can't keep it dark any longer. I have got something
to tell you all. But I don't know quite how to begin.'
'I think I could help you,' said Merry quietly, 'by telling you some of
it myself.'
'What do you mean?' said Frodo, looking at him anxiously.
'Just this, my dear old Frodo: you are miserable, because you don't know how to say good-bye. You meant to leave the Shire, of course. But danger has come on you sooner than you expected, and now you are making up your mind to go at once. And you don't want to. We are very sorry for you.'
Frodo opened his mouth and shut it again. His look of surprise was so
comical that they laughed.
'Dear old Frodo!' said Pippin. 'Did you really think you had thrown dust in all our eyes? You have not been nearly careful or clever enough for that! You have obviously been planning to go and saying farewell to all your haunts all this year since April. We have constantly heard you muttering: "Shall I ever look down into that valley again, I wonder", and things like that. And pretending that you had come to the end of your money, and actually selling your beloved Bag End to those Sackville- Bagginses! And all those close talks with Gandalf.'
This is the first hint that the journey ahead might be more complex than we thought at first. We are going to see four hobbits on the road instead of two.
The surprises continue:
...'You do not understand!' said Pippin. 'You must go – and therefore we must, too. Merry and I are coming with you. Sam is an excellent fellow, and would jump down a dragon's throat to save you, if he did not trip over his own feet; but you will need more than one companion in your dangerous adventure.'
'My dear and most beloved hobbits!' said Frodo deeply moved. 'But I could
not allow it. I decided that long ago, too. You speak of danger, but you do
not understand. This is no treasure-hunt, no there-and-back journey. I am
flying from deadly peril into deadly peril.'
'Of course we understand,' said Merry firmly. 'That is why we have
decided to come. We know the Ring is no laughing-matter; but we are going to do our best to help you against the Enemy.'
'The Ring!' said Frodo, now completely amazed.
'Yes, the Ring,' said Merry. 'My dear old hobbit, you don't allow for the
inquisitiveness of friends. I have known about the existence of the Ring for
years – before Bilbo went away, in fact; but since he obviously regarded it as
secret, I kept the knowledge in my head, until we formed our conspiracy. I did
not know Bilbo, of course, as well as I know you; I was too young, and he was also more careful – but he was not careful enough.....We are horribly afraid – but we are coming with you; or following you like hounds.'
On the surface it seems the hobbits are only concerned about eating and drinking and are excessively keen on genealogy, but thsi passage really shows that Gandalf's assessment of the hobbits was not amiss- they are tough little folk when it really comes to business.
The chapter ends with the hobbits deciding to leave at sunrise and Fatty Bolger is going to stay behind to keep up the pretense of Mr Baggins still living in Crickhollow.

Eledhwen
09-20-2004, 03:36 PM
A short chapter, beginning at the ferry. Merry hasn't met any Black Riders yet, and is puzzled by the obvious edginess of Maggot. The description of a misty Buckland includes Brandy Hall, the opening for a couple of paragraphs of background history ending with the building of the High Hay and a mention of the Old Forest and the Withywindle The last sentence: "The Bucklanders kept their doors locked after dar, and that also was not usual in the Shire." gives the feel of a more cautious and watchful people than back at Hobbiton.

Eventually, they arrive at Crickhollow; and here hot baths and the mushrooms give a brief interlude of fund and peace. A silly song reminds us of Bilbo, and it's all very ordinary, as is normal when friends get together. This is a wonderfully light link to the conversation that follows. I love it! Especially the mention of the Sackville Bagginses and the eventual unmasking of the reason for Sam's acute nosiness when he was caught eavesdropping by Gandalf.

Fatty Bolger agrees to stay behind, fearful of the Old Forest. But not until Chapter II do we find that his choice was not as free from peril as he might have hoped.

Barliman Butterbur
09-20-2004, 04:04 PM
Forgive me, in my abysmal obtuseness, I do not understand the purpose of this thread...?

Barley

Eledhwen
09-20-2004, 05:39 PM
It is the next discussion thread after this one (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?t=15749[/url), which I believe was last posted in by your good self.

It's quite a short chapter, so Chapter 6 will be along soon

Eledhwen
11-06-2004, 04:25 PM
One of the endearing features about this chapter is that it shows the ordinary friendship that exists between the hobbits. It also shows that Frodo's companions can keep their own counsel, and their loyalty to their older friend and kinsman. Sam, of course, is revealed as being far more devious than Frodo had given him credit for! Particularly, I like the bath song. It is so hobbity in its ordinariness, and brings to mind the invented song of Gollum in Henneth Annun in the film version of TTT; both celebrate simple pleasures.

Erestor Arcamen
12-03-2004, 03:05 AM
I also dont really get the point of this thread or what conspiracy has to do with it. This chaptr merely describes part of Frodo's journey to Buckland.

Ithrynluin
12-03-2004, 04:35 AM
'Conspiracy' in the sense that Frodo intended to go on from Crickhollow alone, or perhaps with Sam only, but the others 'conspired' behind his back, followed his every move, and in a way spied on him, as well as on Bilbo and Gandalf, to wheedle out information that would help them understand Frodo's plight. They were very fond of him and wanted to follow him wherever he went, but they did not confront him with their doubts and fears (and vice versa), hence 'conspirators'.

Snaga
12-08-2004, 11:43 PM
The thing about this chapter... and indeed all of the four hobbits journey to Rivendell... is the mounting sense of unease about the Black Riders and delay of Gandalf. The decision to leave the Shire without Gandalf is a big one. If anything, it is only with hindsight you realise how big a step this is for Frodo.

This is also the chapter in which Merry comes to the fore as the organising force amongst the hobbits.

Eledhwen
12-09-2004, 10:01 AM
If anything, it is only with hindsight you realise how big a step this is for Frodo.Beyond the Shire was like stepping off the edge of the known world. A big step indeedThis is also the chapter in which Merry comes to the fore as the organising force amongst the hobbits.Merry also organises the Battle of Bywater, completing his character arc. In Chapter 5 he has yet to encounter the Black Riders, but his indomitable spirit that later allows him to attack their king first shows here, when he persuades them that the Old Forest - a place of fear among hobbits - is the way to go next. Of course his family have ventured into the forest before, but crossing right through its heart, knowing the hostility of the trees, is a courageous move.

Starflower
12-09-2004, 11:51 AM
Also, this is the chapter where the bond between the four hobbits starts to form and it continues to strengthen throughouto the book.
And we see how protective the younger hobbits are acting towards Frodo though he is the eldest of the foursome.

Eledhwen
12-14-2004, 10:03 AM
Written between the lines here is the amount of respect Frodo is held in. Whether it has come because of his association with Bilbo, or whether it has been earned we are not told, but Frodo's character as it unfolds inthe story, indicates the latter, as he continues to earn respect throughout the quest.

Snaga
12-15-2004, 09:14 AM
My impression is that it is a combination of Frodo's status as Bilbo's heir, that he is a Baggins - one of the more influential and wealthy families, that he is somewhat older than the other hobbits, that he is a learned hobbit, that he is close with Gandalf, that he is Ringbearer and that he was known as one of the most rascally young hobbits in the East Farthing when he was young.

All of those, but you could argue over which was the most important factor.

Mrs. Maggott
12-31-2004, 02:11 AM
One of my absolutely "favoritist" parts of the whole work is the description Tolkien gives of the crossing of the Brandywine and how the windows of the great smial of Buckland shine out red and yellow in the darkness while the hobbits are still left in the dark (and dangerous) "outside".

When I walk the dog at night and the neighboring houses have lights shining out through curtains, all warm and inviting, I can't help think of the gurgling of the Brandywine under the ferry and how we (the reader and the hobbits) are at the beginning of a great adventure. In it, in a way, I am torn between looking forward to what is to come and yearning for the safety of what is represented by those warm and inviting windows.

Narsil
12-31-2004, 03:00 AM
I travel a lot and when I drive through small towns and see people going about their business during the day and families gathered in their homes at night one part of me longs to be home with my family while the other part of me is eager and excited to be part of a new adventure and wants to seek out and explore new places. There's something both scary and exciting about going to a place you've never been to before and not knowing what's around the next bend.

One big thing that appeals to me about this section of the book is that you get that same feeling..There's this great trepidation and nervousness about leaving friends, family, home and hearth behind among the Hobbits..But you still get the feeling that they are excited and looking forward to exploring new lands and experiencing new things, despite the danger involved.

For me at least, reading about the journey itself is one of my favorite things about LOTR. In many ways, it's a great travel book. :)

GuardianRanger
01-20-2005, 06:58 PM
This is also the chapter in which Merry comes to the fore as the organising force amongst the hobbits.

Snaga brings up a great point here. I think it really hits home when Merry takes over when they get into Frodo's "new" house.

And one of the parts that struck me the most is Merry riding a Pony. Every time I read it, I'm surprised. Maybe it's because I never think of the Shire-folk as horse/pony riders.

Eledhwen
01-21-2005, 01:35 PM
And one of the parts that struck me the most is Merry riding a Pony. Every time I read it, I'm surprised. Maybe it's because I never think of the Shire-folk as horse/pony riders.They were all on ponies between Crickhollow and Bree; but only Bandobras (Bullroarer) Took was ever large enough to ride a horse. I see what you mean though; up until that point, we're very much impressed with the Baggins love of roaming the countryside on foot "pursuing it with eager/weary feet" as the song goes.

Kahikatea
02-17-2005, 10:12 AM
One big thing that appeals to me about this section of the book is that you get that same feeling..There's this great trepidation and nervousness about leaving friends, family, home and hearth behind among the Hobbits..But you still get the feeling that they are excited and looking forward to exploring new lands and experiencing new things, despite the danger involved.

At this point in the LOTR I start to fell like I'm getting into it, and I think there is a change in the "feeling" of the writing, as noted above there is a feel of trepidation, the hobbits are almost out of the Shire and out of there home, except Merry and Pippin. Sam feels totally out of place with these strange Eastern hobbits.

I like this chapter as the guts is starting and the story is starting to move along, it also demonstrates some of the stronger qualities of the hobbit race, with the "fire, fire" call.

Now I think about it I'm not sure that Freddy calls the alarm at the end of that chapter or is it related later, but anyway it happened chronology at the end of that chapter, it’s been a couple of years now since I last read the whole book, guess that is the effect of the movies on someone who read it every year before the movies came out.

Meselyn
04-09-2007, 03:08 AM
I have to agree with Kahikatea. Up until this point it feels like the plot is building up until this point and then feels like it's really beginning and the story really gets moving.

Mali
04-21-2008, 01:40 AM
The chapter ends with the hobbits deciding to leave at sunrise and Fatty Bolger is going to stay behind to keep up the pretense of Mr Baggins still living in Crickhollow.

I agree. This chapter really showed the true loyalty of Merry, Pippin, and Sam. This chapter sets up the rest of the book, because without this chapter, it would seem very unlikely for anyone, no matter how good a friend, would leave the comfort of Hobbiton for the dangers that they will go through.