Map?

[Hobbit-GalRosie]

Ahem. I have recently been re-reading UT, and noticed in the introduction the final item was "The Map of Middle-Earth."

This brought about an extreme rise in blood pressure, as I finally realized something I'd missed entirely the last time I had borrowed this book from the library. IT HAS NO MAP. It clearly is supposed to, but doesn't. If this map is on-line somewhere I'd really appreciate a link, or if someone has a copy of the book with the map and a scanner, who could therefore post it here, I would be eternally grateful for the help. I mean, Chris' description sounds so fascinating, but I can't see the darned thing. I want to see all those cute little minor errors that have been corrected and etc. etc. PLEASE HELP ME!

P.S. I assume this is the correct forum for this since UT doesn't fall under any of the other categories, but if not...what can I say? I'm very sorry.

[Arthur_Vandelay]

CT might have been referring to an earlier edition of Lord of the Rings. My copy of Unfinished Tales has the map, but it is essentially the same map that accompanies current versions of LOTR. (The only difference that I can see being that in LOTR the map has been divided into quarters--it is a single map in UT).

[Hobbit-GalRosie]

He said that he was re-drawing his LotR Map with several minor errors corrected, so that makes sense. It'd certainly be similar to the LotR one, and I suppose it's possible they'll even have adopted that one since it is nearly the same except with certain things clarified and with a smaller area shown, excluding the Havens of Umbar and the Cape of Forochel to allow more details to be shown. But I still really want to see it... even though I've never been a geography perso and it addles my brain terribly... in part because of that actually, I think this might be one thing that would help me understand it better...

[Arthur_Vandelay]

HG-R:

If I had a scanner, I'd happily post a .jpg of the map that accompanies my edition of Unfinished Tales. But I think that would be unnecessary, given that current editions of The Lord of the Rings (and by "current" I mean at least within the last 15 years) include "the redrawn map of Middle-earth prepared for publication of J. R. R. Tolkien's Unfinished Tales" (I'm quoting the editor's note to the 1991 edition here). So, if you have a current edition of LOTR in your possession, you have the map you're looking for.

I've posted a thumbnail below of what I think is the older version of the map of Middle-earth--the map that accompanied earlier editions of Lord of the Rings. If you compare this map to the map that accompanies current editions (if you have one), you'll be able to see exactly what CT is talking about.

If the thumbnail for some reason doesn't work, here is the URL: http://www.lord-of-the-rings.org/collections/maps/map6%5B1%5D.jpg

[Hobbit-GalRosie]

Thanks so much for your help and your kindness, Arthur Vandelay, that means a lot to me. You know, I started to explain why this was more of a problem to me the last time I posted and stopped for shame of it :o, but I guess I'd better tell it now. You see :o, I'm very particular about my LotR, and I want that one edition from '94 that has a note on the text about how they looked at all the major previous editions and a bunch of notes form Tolkien and Christopher and fixed all the errors that were in any way easily fixable that had occurred before. Since I have been unable to locate such a copy, I have stubbornly refused to purchase one at all. I know. It's shameful, isn't it? Picky, picky :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p. And yes, I know, Amazon.com, but that doesn't work for me for several reasons which are probably best not explained on a public forum, esp. considering the length this post is all ready running to :D. The only thing I have is an ancient paperback copy of Return of the King that was lying around the house somewhere, I don't know how it got there. I think it may have belonged to my father once upon a time, but at any rate, it doesn't have a map useful for these purposes. However, it occured to me some time after reading your original post that as it probably is the same map currently used for LotR that when next I go to a library I could simply look at one of their copies to see what it's about. This plan should prove all the more enlightening now that I have the old one for comparison as well.

Anyway, thanks again for all the help.

[e.Blackstar]

I've posted a thumbnail below of what I think is the older version of the map of Middle-earth--the map that accompanied earlier editions of Lord of the Rings. If you compare this map to the map that accompanies current editions (if you have one), you'll be able to see exactly what CT is talking about.



I have a huge fold-out of that map in the back of my hardback copy of TTT and a closer-up one in the back of ROTK. Hm... :o