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Ermundo
11-08-2005, 03:13 AM
I have indeed been inspired... I got it...

Enough Chit Chan :rolleyes:

Anyway

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I just thought that we should all have a little versus thread in which every day I will post a post stating a battle between a LOTR character and a Harry Potter character. Each day between the time that I post the battle and the time that I post the next battle... Everyone will say which character the think shall win and if so why. This is kind of a serious thread but a joke here or there won't hurt. No stereotyping or Bias. Enjoy!

Now for the first Battle

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The Battle of the Wizards

DUMBELDORE VS. GANDALF

Corvis
12-05-2005, 12:36 AM
How come nobody's posted anything? Anyway I'll be the first and I hope others will follow. I vote for Dumbledore only because Dumbledore can perform one spell and kill Gandalf instantly and that's the unforgivable curse, the killing curse. However if Dumbledore didn't have that one spell then Gandalf would kick Dumbledore's butt.

Wolfshead
12-05-2005, 01:09 AM
Gandalf because he is millenia old. Surely all that experience must count for something?

Arthur_Vandelay
12-06-2005, 10:22 AM
When Dumbledore dies (yes, I've read them all now), he dies for good. Gandalf, on the other hand, is (in a certain way) "immortal."

On the topic of immortality . . . what can we make of Voldemort and his Horcruxes? Is he a counterpart of Saruman, or of Sauron, or something in-between?

Wolfshead
12-06-2005, 05:04 PM
When Dumbledore dies (yes, I've read them all now), he dies for good. Gandalf, on the other hand, is (in a certain way) "immortal."
For Dumbledore was but human, and therefore mortal, whereas Gandalf was one of those lesser God-things.
On the topic of immortality . . . what can we make of Voldemort and his Horcruxes? Is he a counterpart of Saruman, or of Sauron, or something in-between?
Remind me what exactly they were again? Were they parts of his soul or something? (this is what happens when you read a book very quickly - you forget the finer points :D ).

Two words about the Horcruxes, though - Regelus and Black ;)

Arthur_Vandelay
12-08-2005, 09:56 AM
Here's a site you should add to your "Bookmarks" list, Wolfshead: The Harry Potter Lexicon (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/index-2.html).

From said resource:

The term "Horcrux" is used to refer to any object in which a person has concealed a part of his or her soul. The object need not be inanimate; according to Dumbledore, a living creature can be used as a Horcrux, although it is risky to do so since the Horcrux in such a case is something that can move and think for itself, independently of the implanted fragment of soul.

The purpose of a Horcrux is to protect the given bit of soul from anything that might happen to the body of the person to whom the soul belongs. While the Horcrux is kept safe, the person will continue to exist even if his or her body is damaged or destroyed.

When I was reading the chapter of Half-Blood Prince where Dumbledore and Harry discuss Horcruxes, I was struck by the notion that Harry himself might be a Horcrux. I guess we'll have to wait for the next book to find out.