The Names

[Majimaune]

OK this may sound a bit strange (but hey so am I!) but I was thinking about the names in H.P. and I was thinking you could make things up about how they where formed. An obvious one is Hogwarts could be Warthogs and Rowling was watching The Lion King at the time and she saw Pumba and she thought of warthogs and inverted the name so it became Hogwarts.

This thread is total nonsense but it could be funny.

[e.Blackstar]

Um, yeah, is there a reason that you made 3 copies of this thread?

[Barliman Butterbur]

OK this may sound a bit strange (but hey so am I!) but I was thinking about the names in H.P. and I was thinking you could make things up about how they where formed.

Well, let's take it out of the realm of the strange and into something higher! :p

Rowling's names are quite Dickensian; that is, she makes up names to match the nature of the character in question, the way Charles Dickens (or even Poe) used to do. Somewhere on the net are sites that explain this more fully. One name that comes to my mind right away (because I was recently reading HP6) is Dolores Umbridge. "Dolores" refers to dolor, pain, and "Umbridge" is a misspelling of umbrage, which means to take offense (umbrageous means to be offensive). So her name describes her as being a really offensive person capable of causing great pain, which she certainly did.

Another one is Remus Lupin: Roman Mythology: Romulus was the traditional founder of Rome, one of the twin sons of Mars by the Vestal Virgin Rhea Silvia. He and his brother Remus were abandoned at birth in a basket on the Tiber River but were found and suckled by a she-wolf and later brought up by a shepherd family. "Lupin" comes from lupine: adjective of, like, or relating to a wolf or wolves. • fierce or ravenous as a wolf. ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Latin lupinus, from lupus ‘wolf.’: therefore, a werewolf whose name refers to dogs and wolves, etc., etc.

Barley

[Majimaune]

Um, yeah, is there a reason that you made 3 copies of this thread?
There's three copies of this thread, I didnt do it (not intentionally any way)

Yeah Barly I know the story of Romulus and Remus, but I didnt know about lupinus or whatever it was meaning wolf.

Maybe I should do some homework before I make a thread like this again (if I do make a thread like this again).

[Wolfshead]

It's quite a coincidence that a man whose name ties him so strongly to wolves should have been bitten by a werewolf, eh? ;)

[Barliman Butterbur]

It's quite a coincidence that a man whose name ties him so strongly to wolves should have been bitten by a werewolf, eh? ;)

I wouldn't say so — Rowling did it deliberately — that's exactly the point of making up names to match the nature of the characters.

Barley

[Wolfshead]

I wouldn't say so — Rowling did it deliberately — that's exactly the point of making up names to match the nature of the characters.
Ah, sir, you misunderstand me :p Speaking as if it were the real world, Remus was not born a werewolf, he was bitten as a child. However, when bitten he already had a name with strong wolf connotations. Had Fenrir Greyback not attacked him then he would have grown up to be a normal wizard with the same name.

But of course Rowling chose that name for her werewolf character, I am merely being silly... :D

[AraCelebEarwen]

...he would have grown up to be a normal wizard with the same name.
Are we sure about that? I might not be the right one to say so, but, maybe (to protect family or something?) he changed his name after he was bitten?... Do we know for a fact that 'Lupin' is and/or was his family name?

[Barliman Butterbur]

...course Rowling chose that name for her werewolf character, I am merely being silly... :D

Eyup... :p

Barley

[Noldor_returned]

I know the straight out answer...or as close as we might get. The hogwart is a flower, a very ugly yet sophisticated flower. The same can be said about the school.
I actually went to a semi-course about his tpe of thing, and it focused on Harry Potter. I have a few other name-takings that I can think of off the top of my head:

Hermione and her parents: in a book about North Pole elves, an elf called Hermione wants to become a dentist. Hermione's parents are dentists.
Sirius: The dog constellation is called Sirius, and Sirius could turn himself into a dog.
Molly (Weasley): comes from the word mollycoddle which means pamper and fuss over, which is her nature.
Most of the spells originate from an English base word, such as Wingardium Leviosa, which comes from wings (flight) and levitate, or Petrificus Totalus, which comes from petrify, meaning shocked and amazed and total, basically, shocked all over.
The Philosopher's Stone: this is actually a play by Antonin Artaud, although I'm not sure what the play is about.There are others, but I can't think of them at the moment. If they come to me, I'll post them.

[Majimaune]

I should have asked you if you knew anything about it seeing as I knew you went to that course thing. Stupid me.

[VioletFalcon129]

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Most of the spells originate from an English base word, such as Wingardium Leviosa, which comes from wings (flight) and levitate, or Petrificus Totalus, which comes from petrify, meaning shocked and amazed and total, basically, shocked all over.


Actually, no. They come from Latin. (Which I am taking a course in. Well, alright,it's Latin 1, but close enough.) You know the spell for the dark mark (which, if you recall, is a scull with a serpent for a tounge) is Morsmorde
which, if you look up the Latin, means bite of death. (Although the words are not exact, that's understandable, it's fantasy, after all.)

I voted for Pumba. (Even though I don't beleive it.) This thread is getting pretty serious, which I doubt it was intended for.

Oh, and you don't need to take a course on the names : just buy a book. I did, though I'll be darned if I can find the thing...
-Vi

[Noldor_returned]

I didnt actually pay for it or anything. My teacher asked "who has read HP?" I said I had, and I got to go for half a day to it for free. I wasn't complaining.

[Majimaune]

I voted for Pumba. (Even though I don't beleive it.) This thread is getting pretty serious, which I doubt it was intended for.
No it wasnt meant to be too sirious.

[Noldor_returned]

Was that a pun, or just a typo?
Anyway, I thought of another:
Narcissa Malfoy- Narcissus was a man in Greek mythology, who was in love with his own looks, and had a bad ending. The same can be said about Narcissa, which is a feminine form of Narcissus. The Narcissus flower also comes from this.

[Wolfshead]

Narcissa Malfoy- Narcissus was a man in Greek mythology, who was in love with his own looks, and had a bad ending. The same can be said about Narcissa, which is a feminine form of Narcissus. The Narcissus flower also comes from this.
So we can expect her to meet a nasty ending... nice :cool:

[Majimaune]

Was that a pun, or just a typo?
Anyway, I thought of another:
Narcissa Malfoy- Narcissus was a man in Greek mythology, who was in love with his own looks, and had a bad ending. The same can be said about Narcissa, which is a feminine form of Narcissus. The Narcissus flower also comes from this.
No it wasnt a pun but a typo.

The Narcissus Flower is the one (if you know your greek mythology) which Persephone picks and is taken by Hades to be his queen.