What would PJ change in The Hobbit movie?

[Ithrynluin]

Though it looks pretty certain that PJ won't be the one to direct the beloved LOTR "prequel", let's discuss this anyway.

Based on the changes he implemented in the three LOTR movies, what do you think he would have done with the Hobbit?

And which parts do you think could be omitted (if any), or should at least be modified/adapted to fit the big screen better?

[Barliman Butterbur]

Though it looks pretty certain that PJ won't be the one to direct the beloved LOTR "prequel", let's discuss this anyway.

Based on the changes he implemented in the three LOTR movies, what do you think he would have done with the Hobbit?

And which parts do you think could be omitted (if any), or should at least be modified/adapted to fit the big screen better?

You're inviting endless speculation ranging from the ridiculous to the sublime... What a Pandora's Box you've opened! :eek: :p

Barley

[Maeglin]

Hmmm...I imagine the stop at Elrond's house will be omitted, as well as the first incident with the trolls perhaps. Other things that I could see them taking out, but which I would be most unhappy about, include Beorn and the fight with the spiders in the forest.

[Ithrynluin]

I think Jackson might have been tempted to include both Elrond and the trolls, if only because they were present in the FOTR EE.

I believe you have a point about Beorn, though. Beorn may well be to The Hobbit what Tom Bombadil is to The Lord of the Rings.

Barley, how about you put your hand into the box and see what you pull out?

[Barliman Butterbur]

Barley, how about you put your hand into the box and see what you pull out?

OK — **puts hand in box** AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!

**pulls out bleeding hand with skin shredded to the bone, grabs Gandalf's wand and instantly heals it**

NOW IT'S YOUR TURN!

Barley

[HLGStrider]

Elgee produces a dozen, starving, half crazed weazels who immediately latch onto her face and start biting her all over. GET THESE WEAZELS OFF MY FACE! AH! GET THEM OFF ME! GET THEM OFF! GET THEM OFF ME!

Hey . . . you've got weazels on your face . . .

Uh. .. yeah . . .

The only thing that might be necessary to change for flow is the stop at Lake Town. I think it will be shortened. Probably made just long enough to introduce Bard, which is better than the alternative of drawing it out so that the mayor of Lake Town becomes a evil villian and takes up a ton of screen time before getting his in an extremely violent weazel death . .. um . . .weazels . . .yeah . . .

Also, in the same vein as the scouring of the shire, I don't know if too much time will be spent on the auction when Bilbo gets home.

The plot of the Hobbit is a lot simpler, and I would be more afraid of additions than subtractions. For instance there is no love interest which breaks a Hollywood standard. I don't know where they could add one, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try.

No females generally too. That will probably be altered.

[YayGollum]

Ack! Why so many misspelled weasels? Anyways, I would think the the superly evil scene where the elves are making fun of the Dwarves at Rivendell would be dropped, mostly because elves had no humor in those The Lord Of The Rings movies. I don't see why they would drop the troll or Elrond scenes, though. I doubt that they would leave the Wargs out of the part where everybody gets a ride out of the trees by giant eagles, but I wish that they would, since I hated what they made Wargs look like in those The Lord Of The Rings movies. Too hyena-ish. Wolves are a lot more evil and scary looking. They would certainly drop any opportunities to show how a Dwarf can actually be a cool character, just like those The Lord Of The Rings movies. :( I could believe that they might drop the Beorn character, even though I would be plenty dismayed about it. More information might be dropped about what the evil torturer Gandalf was doing behind the scenes. I doubt it, but his story might get a lot more light of the lime. The creepy river that tosses people into an unnatural sleep will be dropped. Why would they drop giant spider showdowns? Any opportunity for evil computer generated characters is fun for those people, yes? Legolas will make an appearance, of course. Most probably leaping off of the Lonely Mountain at a spot that Smaug stupidly flew too close to, then riding him around and guiding him to the perfect spot to be shot down by Bard. Or something equally annoying. I don't see why they'd skim past the Lake Town stuff so quickly. It's the Battle Of Five Armies, which will have to last at least two hours. :rolleyes: There should be plenty of time to introduce the mayor, Bard, and his long and boring romantic pursuits. :rolleyes: They'd probably drop the Crebain. As well as anything after the evil thief Bilbo Baggins gets back home. Oh, there might be a vision about how his absence is being taken advantage of, but it'll turn out that nothing bad ever really happens in the Shire. :rolleyes: Also, all scenes that have been well beloved by most will be butchered. The good morning conversation, the riddle game, and the conversation with Smaug come quickly to brain.

[Maeglin]

I don't think they'll drop the riddles in the dark...they need to introduce Gollum and the Ring somehow.

As for a love interest, I'm sure they'll make something up for Bard the Bowman so he can be a romantic hero. He'll probably end up having to save the love of his life from Smaug or something. If anyone working on the movie happens to be reading this, please don't do this...but if you do, I want credit for the idea. :D

[YayGollum]

Ugh. You would wish to see your name on everyone's televisions, even if it meant messing up a cool story? oh well. :rolleyes: I wasn't writing that I thought they'd drop the Riddles In The Dark scene. I'm sure that they'd have a Gollum scene in there somehow. I am certain that they'd butcher the scene until it held merely a ghost of the coolness from the book, if any. But then, those sorts of scenes are so well known and beloved that as close to verbatim as they could get would be the only acceptable inclusion.

[HLGStrider]

Ack! Why so many misspelled weasels?

Those aren't weasels. They are special starving, half crazed Weazels which only can be purchased in donut shops.

The songs are a good point. Having actors burst into song in the middle of a movie is not done very often any more . . . long musical segments are actually used to explain things in the book. Unless they do something like the cartoon and have the voice over reading the "Goblets they carved there for themselves" bit while showing story images. That worked pretty well, but since the cartoon did it they might stray away from it.

[Barliman Butterbur]

So far, it's much ado about nothing: we don't even know who's going to do The Hobbit. I'm tracking the situation with a Google Alert, but so far nothing definitive's shown up. Patience me luvs, patience!

Barley