Gollum, hero or villain? (RE: Mt.Doom, possible spoiler for non-readers)

[Gollum/Sméagol]

In TROTK movie, when Frodo has finally been corrupted and then Gollum attacks him, etc etc. gets ring and falls in, do you think in the movie they'll make it out that Gollum meant to jump in and they'll make him out as a hero or do you think that they'll stay true to the book and have him still confused and half way between good/bad when he falls in?

[Gary Gamgee]

I'll tell what i'd love to see...

Gollum gets the ring but doesn't fall in. Meanwhile Sam takes his injured master to safety nearby, Gollum full of joy he has the ring back goes skipping and dancing to the way out when suddenly a winged Nazgul appears in his way. Gollum runs back screaming to the edge of the abyss. The Nazgul slowly moves forward paying no heed Frodo and Sam.

Gollum-"aah what to do my precious what cans we do?"

looks to Frodo

"Master nice Hobbit what can i do?"

Frodo-"You know what you must do Gollum, what i couldn't"

Gollum-"Nooo never must never harm precious"

Frodo-"then He will get it Gollum"

Gollum-(hissing)" He mustent have it, HE wont have it never ever nooo"

Gollum with the ring jumps into the flames screaming

"my preeecious"

what do think?

[PRH]

No way. Just do it like the book. Gollum is supposed to be pitiable, not a hero. Any heroic act was just by accident.

[daisy]

there is actually a thread in the Lord of the Rings board - it is back a bit but it is there - I think it is called Gollum: Good or Evil - and it had some interesting posts relating to this topic, if you want to check it out!

daisy:)

[Gollum/Sméagol]

Originally posted by daisy
there is actually a thread in the Lord of the Rings board - it is back a bit but it is there - I think it is called Gollum: Good or Evil - and it had some interesting posts relating to this topic, if you want to check it out!

daisy:)

I know, thanks, but I mean do you think PJ will portray him as a hero or villain??

[PRH]

While we're at it. I'm sure we could forgo any and all discussion on this board and just read old threads. There's nothing new under the sun.

[daisy]

I think P.J will try to show him as a conflicted, tortured, pathetic yet dangerous character because that is how he set it up in FOTR - he had that scene where Frodo is saying, ' Why didn't Bilbo just kill him when he had the chance" and Gandalf explaining about mercy etc.
I also think the villain role is reserved for Wormtongue, who will be portrayed as truly menacing and creepy...but we'll see!:)

[Eonwe]

I think Gollum is the coolest character in LoTR to show on screen. I mean a guy with two personalities, eyes that turn green, has hair like Pat Riley, can climb a mountain like a spider, says precioussss, says dusssssttt.

I hope PJ does a good job with him, like he did with Gandalf.

[lilhobo]

i was gonna do a thread like this but thought it might be spoiler!!!

who knows what the fatman will do....i hope he makes gollum ou to be a hero personally :D

frodo: i have come, yet i will not do what i have set out to do. I claim this ring for my self

(we see frodo turn in to gollum in front of gollums eyes)

gollum: tears in his eyes
bites of frodo finger and says this is the end

[Andquellewen]

I just hope that PJ will stay true to the book.
Though he's probably going to make Gollum a bad guy.

[Son of Elrond]

Gollum's role was one of destiny and Gandalf saw this early on. He knew Gollum had a role in the destruction of the ring. I believe Jackson stays true to the storyline and depicts Gollum as craving the ring and using the hobbits as food for Shelob, knowing he had that shot at getting the ring for himself.

[Khamul]

I agree on one thing, that everything new in the board has basically been said before. Except the killing Gollum thread I think.:D

[ssgrif]

I think that PJ will stay true to the books version of events. You can see how amazing the CGI face of Gollum could be used to pull some pretty scary expressions. You remember in the movie at Rivendell, where you see Bilbos face goes evil and twisted when he wants to touch the ring, but Frodo wont let him.

I feel that PJ will have Gollum fighting Frodo over the ring, with his face all twisted and evil, then plop! into the lava flow.

[grishnak]

I hope PJ stays true to the book but I agree with Legolas Lover, he will probably make him a bad guy.

[fantasydude]

i hope he doesnt turn gollum in to another jar-jar! that would be unfortunate. i cant wait to see gollum, hes the most colorful, conflicted and fascinating characters in the trilogy, and i hope he is portrayed correctly. i bet at the climax, all will follow the book, because that is about as climactic and unexpected as it gets anyway.

[tom_bombadil]

He will portary gollums split personality the personality which desires the ring and wants its precious back and the side which hates it and utterly detests the ring

[Shadowfax]

I hope PJ shows that there are really TWO entities inside Gollum. Gollum, who is totally evil, and Smeagol, who (i belive)sacrifices himself when he realizes that the ring must be destroyed.