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dapence
02-23-2002, 03:54 AM
Director Jackson Vows Fresh Take on 'Rings' Sequel
Fri Feb 22, 4:55 PM ET

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020222/en_nm/leisure_rings_dc_2&cid=579

By Bob Tourtellotte

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - With the first installment of his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy a prime contender for Oscar honors, director Peter Jackson says he has reached deep into his bag of movie wizardry to deliver fresh characters and plot twists to part two due in theaters next December.

"The second feels very different from the first film, which I think is a positive thing. If audiences go to 'Two Towers' (the sequel) expecting more of the same, they are not going to get more of the same," Jackson told Reuters in an interview on Thursday.

Part one, "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring" has been a smash hit for over two months in movie theaters, raking in $700 million globally and winning 13 Oscar nominations, more than any other film vying for Hollywood's top film honors this year.

The "Rings" movies -- three in all -- are based on the 1954 fantasy epic by J.R.R. Tolkien that tells of a battle for Middle-earth by an alliance of Hobbits, Elves, Dwarves and Men against the dark powers of Sauron and his Orc army.

At the center of the struggle is a powerful ring wrought by Sauron of gold and blood and an evil life force. Whoever possesses the ring can control Middle-earth, and the hobbit Frodo, aided by wizard Gandalf, must return it to the fires from which it came. Keeping it from Sauron's demonic clutches will save the good people of Middle-earth from his armies.

While millions of Tolkien readers know the "Rings" tales by heart, Jackson's movie magic and special effects have brought their characters to life and have kept audiences spellbound.

MORE TRICKS IN 'TOWERS'

The director will use more tricks in "Towers," including a starring role for a computer generated outcast Orc named Gollum, who with Frodo and his best friend Sam forms a sort of unholy alliance in the quest to destroy the ring.

See, Gollum wants the ring for himself.

"He's a really twisted, sick little guy," Jackson said.

Using British actor Andy Serkis dressed up in a "motion capture suit," Jackson and his animators can digitize all of Serkis' real movements and transform them into Gollum's, so the computerized creep can "act" with the real characters.

"The challenge is to create a computer-generated creature that is a totally believable actor ... that is as strong and powerful as any human being in the film," Jackson said.

"The audience will be the judge of it, but I think it's looking pretty good so far," he added.

Jackson said he's only about halfway into editing the second movie. The first was about the "fellowship" of elves, dwarves and men who protected Frodo on his journey, but that band of guardsman was broken.

In the second, Frodo sets out on his own with Sam, and the two are soon to be joined by Gollum. There are kidnappings, chases, battles and intertwined plots that Jackson said are "ultimately refreshing because they will be different."

Of course, topping the success of the first "Rings" film will be hard, both at the box office and at Oscar.

But for Jackson much of the pressure is off his shoulders because all three films were shot in his native New Zealand at the same time. The movie is "in the can" as they say in Hollywood, and all he can do is edit what he already has.

His biggest concern, now, is what to say on Oscar night if he wins for best director or if "Rings" wins best film.

How does he thank -- in the 30 seconds or so the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences gives him -- the over 2,500 people who worked on the film, not to mention 25,000 extras?

"If I go in alphabetical order, I'll be halfway through the 'A's'," he laughed. "The band will strike up, and I'll be done."

Well, it may be a short ending for Jackson, but not his movie. The third film in the trilogy, "The Return of the King" is scheduled for release in 2003.

Harad
02-23-2002, 04:04 AM
I'm ready. Let the show begin.

What? 10 months?

Greenwood
02-23-2002, 04:14 AM
Director Jackson Vows Fresh Take on 'Rings' Sequel

Somebody better have the smelling salts ready for Thorin when he reads the title of this thread. :)

Harad
02-23-2002, 05:01 AM
Would he really tinker with success? Give it a different "feel"? I think he just means that TTT is by necessity different from FOTR because of the story lines...

Thorin
02-23-2002, 05:16 AM
Fresh take??? :confused:

quote
"Peter Jackson says he has reached deep into his bag of movie wizardry to deliver fresh characters and plot twists to part two due in theaters next December.
"The second feels very different from the first film, which I think is a positive thing. If audiences go to 'Two Towers' (the sequel) expecting more of the same, they are not going to get more of the same," Jackson told Reuters in an interview on Thursday. "

Where are the !#@*^# smelling salts!!?

What does he mean "fresh characters and plot twists??" Does this ignorant journalist, who thinks Gollum is a rejected orc, think PJ created the movie, or is he implying that there are going to be major changes from the book?

Hmmm..How to interpret this? What does "they are not going to get more of the same" mean? That could mean more of the same botched storyline and poor character development and fabricated roles and cheesy dialogue..If that is the case and fans shouldn't expect "more of the same" then it could be a good movie!!! :)

However, if PJ thinks he followed the book to the letter and stayed true to Tolkien, that would mean that this next movie will move even farther away from what Tolkien wrote!!! AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

(Passes out on floor while Greenwood runs over with salts...only to be stopped by Harad like Gollum on Sam)

Greenwood
02-23-2002, 05:53 PM
(Passes out on floor while Greenwood runs over with salts...only to be stopped by Harad like Gollum on Sam)

SPLASH !!!!

Thorin, come back!

(I couldn't reach you with the smelling salts because of Harad, so I resorted to a bucket of cold water. :) )

Eonwe
02-23-2002, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Thorin
Where are the !#@*^# smelling salts!!? What does he mean "fresh characters and plot twists??"

Thorin I am with you on this one. It makes me dizzy. I'm too into JRRT to handle this.

I need to know what he is doing beforehand, or I will pass out too.

I gotta lightenup, take it easy, chill.:)

YayGollum
02-23-2002, 08:58 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! !!!!
Gollum an outcast Orc!

PRH
02-23-2002, 10:45 PM
Gollum an outcast Orc!

I know, it always baffels me how these writers who don't know what they're talking about think they're qualified to fill in the blanks!

Harad
02-23-2002, 11:18 PM
I hope you mean the writer of the article...?

Merrick Took
02-24-2002, 04:48 AM
If he really does a botch job on the next two, will everyone still like $PJAX$ more than Bakshi?

MT

Harad
02-24-2002, 04:56 AM
Any other songs in your repertoire, MT?

Bucky
02-24-2002, 05:29 AM
>>>Somebody better have the smelling salts ready for Thorin when he reads the
title of this thread.

LMAO....

Thorin: You have most wisely chosen your name.

Remember what a grouch he was?
Then, he repents at the end..........

I put this up once before, but I believe it mysteriously disappeared.
Or maybe I just don't know how to bookmark....

But, here is the reason Tolkien wrote TLOR, in his own words:

'The prime motive was the desire of a story-teller to try his hand at a really long story that would hold the attention of readers, amuse them, delight them, and at times maybe excite them or deeply move them.'

Now, if you (or we) substitute 'viewers' for 'readers' & use THAT as the benchmark to measure Jackson's movie, would you then agree that he succeeded?

I saw it twice (so far). And I loved it. so did everyone around me. It certainly held the entire audience's attention as each time exactly 2 people (out of about 500 total) got up during it's 3 hours.
And, each time, there was a line to the bathroom afterwards.
I've never seen that at a movie in 30 years....
Now, if you've read my posts, you know I have as much knowledge of ME as any.
I was glad to see it come to life, albeit with many omissions & changes, which I knew down to the words spoken.

But, I ask you, what movie, even classics like Jaws, The Godfather, The Wizard of Oz, Frankenstein or what have you, are ever exact to the book?
None.

Relax, try to enjoy what you are getting as it's own piece of art & stop comparing. It is alot better than nothing, no?

In the least, you've got hundreds more people up here talking about ME because of the movie......

PRH
02-24-2002, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by Harad
I hope you mean the writer of the article...?

Yes.

Originally posted by Bucky
Now, if you (or we) substitute 'viewers' for 'readers' & use THAT as the benchmark to measure Jackson's movie, would you then agree that he succeeded?

You're giving PJ incredible latittude there.

But, I ask you, what movie, even classics like Jaws, The Godfather, The Wizard of Oz, Frankenstein or what have you, are ever exact to the book?
None.

But I ask, when has the source material ever been so excellent and deserving?

It is alot better than nothing, no?

True indeed.

Eonwe
02-24-2002, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by PRH
But I ask, when has the source material ever been so excellent and deserving?

Ah so true.

I remember in my tweens thinking how great it would be if someone would make this movie. I mean really make it, with all the trimmings. I can't say its less than I expected honestly from Hollywood or any other movie maker.

I'm sure that there will be great scenes that stand out just like in the book, and I'm sure I'll have smart people like Harad to point out to me, rightly!, that some things in the movie were perhaps, just perhaps, handled better.

And so I will get ready to see it!

Bucky
02-25-2002, 05:28 AM
No, Next on Springer:

Sam & Gollum fight over Frodo.....


My real point:

I figured out back in my 'tweens' that the only way to make TLOR & follow the book would be to do 22-26 one hour weekly T.V. shows for a 'season'.
Like every Sunday at 7PM - 8PM.......

Of course, where would they get the $2 Billion to do THAT?

Now, I haven't seen the ist cartoon/movie since it came out (1979), but I thought that was quite marginal & never lost any sleep about them never making the 2nd half.

Eonwe
02-25-2002, 05:35 AM
22-26 shows every Sunday night! Cool! I'm in!

Well, when I become the next Bill Gates, thats my first 2 billion spent!

After that, I land a man and woman on Mars...

Bucky
02-25-2002, 06:30 AM
'Don't tread on me'?

As in 'Their motto is Don't tread on me'?

BTW, Don't tread on PJ.....

Ciryaher
02-25-2002, 08:18 AM
*psst! Bucky! I think he's referring to the pre-Revolutionary American motto (which was also on an early flag of the Patriots, I believe)*

ssgrif
02-25-2002, 05:50 PM
It made me laugh reading the bit about Gollum being an outcast Orc.

Hey YayGollum, you appear to have had a race change...hehehe

Did it hurt much? leave any scars?

Bucky
02-26-2002, 01:52 AM
I know what he meant.

If he (or you) know what I meant, then you've been 'on the bus' too.....

baraka
02-26-2002, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Thorin
Fresh take??? :confused:

Hmmm..How to interpret this? What does "they are not going to get more of the same" mean? That could mean more of the same botched storyline and poor character development and fabricated roles and cheesy dialogue..If that is the case and fans shouldn't expect "more of the same" then it could be a good movie!!! :)

However, if PJ thinks he followed the book to the letter and stayed true to Tolkien, that would mean that this next movie will move even farther away from what Tolkien wrote!!! AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!



I agree with you. The movie was good, but the changes made me puke.

Harad
02-27-2002, 12:16 AM
Maybe you and CT can make the next version. I wont hold my breath. Or puke.

baraka
02-27-2002, 01:01 AM
Who knows how it would come out. Too bad i donīt have the 2 bil. to do them. Iīm not saying that i could make a better movie than PJ, but my movie would definitely be more book oriented, with Frodo being Frodo and Arwen being Arwen, not some warrior princess.