Quiz/Trivia

[Galdor]

You are incorrect LadyGaladriel. Thror was the last King of Erebor (The Lonely Mountain). My question was "Who was the last King of Dale before Smaug came?" Dale was the Human city on the southward slopes of Erebor.

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by LadyGaladriel
My question is (clears throat)

What is the name of the maid in the houses of healing who gets Aragorn Kings foil?

Is it Ioreth?
Oh,I don't think she qualifies as a maid:D

[Lantarion]

Argh, I can't remember the 'maid'. But wasn't it some scholar? He just started rattling off info about athelas, and Aragorn told him to get a move on, I remember.
The last king of Dale... Uh, I remember someone called Girion, but I think that was long before Smaug destroyed the city.
If it's correct: What was the name given to the Caverns of Narog by the Noegyth Nibin?

[LadyGaladriel]

My question was "Who was the last King of Dale before Smaug came?" Dale was the Human city on the southward slopes of Erebor.


Sorry , read it wrong

[Galdor]

You may be right about Girion, Pontifex. I'm not shore how long before Smaug come he died, all I know is that he was the last King before Smaug. And that's ok LadyGaladriel it happens to the best of us. :)

Galdor

[Lantarion]

Hooray! At last my memory serves me well. :D

[Galdor]

What was the name given to the Caverns of Narog by the Noegyth Nibin?

I believe it was called Nulukkizdin.
If I am correct my Question is;
what was the name of the Dwarf Lord of Belegost who was killed by Glaurung in the Battle of Unnumbered Tears.

[Lantarion]

His name was Azaghâl.

Q: On what two pages in the Silmarillion is Ost-in-Edhil, 'Fortress of the Eldar', first mentioned?

[Kementari]

I think it on pages 344 and 345

Who was Tar-Miriels father?

(Hey Ponti, your going to be a mod?!! Congrats! thats wonderful! )

[Lantarion]

Tar-Palantir, or Inziladûn. :)

Yup, just receiving the details of my assignments.

[Ecthelion]

Is one of the mods quitting or do they just need more?

[Lantarion]

I guess they are constantly looking for new Mods who know their stuff (like me ;)). I would like to start soon, but I haven't heard from the Officials yet. Hmm.
I am also going to change my name, by the way. I have been known as Lantarion on many other forums, and I think it would be more 'lotr-ish' than Pontifex.

Ah yes, question: Who did Brodda marry in Hithlum during the First Age?

[Kementari]

Aerin :D

Which was the fourth great battle in the Wars of Beleriand?

(Ponti i remember when your name used to be Lantarion on the old tolkien-forum :) Its about time you became a mod since you were around proably before anyone else on the forum, except maybe Cir)

[Ponte]

Dagor bragollach.

What were the names of the sons of Dior.

[Kementari]

Elured and Elurin

Near which lake was the lair of Barahir and his outlaws made?

[Ponte]

Tarn Aeluin.

What was the first name of the house of Hador?

[Lantarion]

Uh.. the Third House of the Edain?

If that's right: What does Idril Celebrindal's original name (in Quenya) mean?

[Ponte]

Silverfoot
Question: what where the elves that lived in Falas called?

[Lantarion]

Incorrect, Buu. If you hadn't noticed, I asked for her "original (Quenya) name"; Celebrindal was a nickname, and it was Sindarin. So try again. :)
But I'll answer your question anyway, to get things running: the Falathrim. (If that's wrong, I'll feel very foolish.)

[Ponte]

Itarille meant twinkle, sparkle i think.

If that is right then my question is: who ruled over the Falathrim

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Buu
If that is right then my question is: who ruled over the Falathrim

That's an easy one - Cirdan the Shipwright.:cool:

What does the word "Singollo" mean and to whom does it refer?

[Ponte]

It means Greymantle. It refers to Elwe.

Question: What were the sindarin name of Moria?

[Galdor]

[quote]What were the sindarin name of Moria?[/qote]
Hadhodrond.

question. What was the name of the spear of Gil-galad?

[Ponte]

question. What was the name of the spear of Gil-galad

It was called Aeglos.

Question: What was the name of the fourth son of Finarfin?

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Buu

Question: What was the name of the fourth son of Finarfin?

Aegnor.

Which was the longest river in Beleriand?

[Galdor]

Which was the longest river in Beleriand?

Gelion.

question. What was the later name of Ereinion?

[Ponte]

Gil-galad.

Question: Where in Beleriand lived Eöl after he had left Doriath?

[Turgon]

Nan Elmoth.

Question: What was the name of the great pearl that Cirdan gave to Thingol and which Thingol later gave to the dwarves of Belegost?

[Rúmil]

Nimphelos.

Question: what name did Túrin give to himself when he lived among the Outlaws?

[Ponte]

He called himself Neithan the wronged .

Question: Name all the twelve companions of Barahir.

[Rúmil]

lol, that's a big one :)

[Chymaera]

Originally posted by Buu
Question: Name all the twelve companions of Barahir.

Gorlim, Radhruin, Dairuin, Dagnir, Ragnor, Gildor, Arthad, Urthel, Hathaldir, Beren his son, Baragund and Belegund, his nephews.:p


Name their hide-out? (be specific)

[Rúmil]

Their hide-out was on the lake of Tarn Aeluin.

Question: what is the name of the mound on which the Two Trees grew?

[Turgon]

Ezellohar (also named Corollaire).

Question: What was the name of King Valacar's northman wife?

[Rúmil]

Vidumavi daughter of Vidugavia.

What was the name of the hsuband of Queen Berúthiel?

[Turgon]

Tarannon Falastur.

Question: Who succeeded Dain Ironfoot to the Throne of Erebor?

[Rúmil]

Thorin III Stonehelm.

Who loved Lúthien (apart from Beren)?

[Turgon]

Daeron.

Question: Who slew Uldor the Accursed?

[Rúmil]

Maglor.

Question: who is going to answer if it is not Turgon?

no, seriously: who was the first son of Fëanor to die?

[Turgon]

Mmm... that's a tough one Rumil! Where's Pengolodh when you need him? Celegorm, Curufin and Caranthir all died in the Sack of Doriath, but who was first? Celegorm?

[Rúmil]

Celegorm is quoted first, he'll fo fine. You didn't give a further question...

[Turgon]

Question: What was Alcarondas?

[Rúmil]

I'd say it's the ship in which Ar-Pharazôn tried to sail to Valinor.

Who wrought Orcrist?

[Chymaera]

Orcrist was forged in the hiddden city of Gondolin. Possibly forged by Maeglin, but I can find no reference. I won't ask a question until my answer has been confirmed.{what do you say Rumil?}

[Rúmil]

Yes, it was forged by Maeglin. I know it was him, though I can't find the reference anymore. :(

[Chymaera]

cool
Question: How did Dain Ironfoot know to come the aid of Thorin Oakenshield at Erebor?

[Ponte]

Thorin Oakenshield sent the raven Roak to Dain.

Question: What were the names of the blue Wizards.

[Rúmil]

Alatar and Pallando

Question who was the smith of Narsil this time?

[Ponte]

Telchar.

Question: What were the name of the brother to Elwe that was ancestor of celeborn.

[Rúmil]

Easy: Olwë.

Question: who bit off Beren's hand?

[Lantarion]

Easy: Carcharoth
Q: In what year was the Battle of Fornost fought? (Hooray for the Hobbit-archers sent there!) :)

[Rúmil]

Not so easy. In the year 1974 of the Third Age. But you're only supposed to ask for names of things and people.

Question: who did Brandir kill?

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Buu
Question: What were the name of the brother to Elwe that was ancestor of celeborn.

Originally posted by Rumil
Easy: Olwë.

I don't think that's quite right. "Elmo" was the ancestor of Celeborn not Olwë.Just thought you should know.:rolleyes:

[Rúmil]

Well the only brother of Elwë I know of was Olwë. And Olwë was realted to Celeborn.

[Ponte]

Ithrynluin is right. he/she can post a question now.

[Rúmil]

Allright, maybe Elmo was a more obvious answer, but Olwë is right as well.

[Ponte]

Well perhaps, but i think that the part were Elmo is mentioned fits more into the story.

[Rúmil]

grr! I' m right I'm right I'm right! how dare you question me!:D

Ok, maybe Elmo would have been a better answer...

[Lantarion]

Right! Question time! :rolleyes:
Q: What was the common name of the Hobbitish surname Galbasi?

[Rúmil]

Gamgee sor!

Now who did Brandir kill?

[Galdor]

Turin accused him of leading Niniel (Nienor) to her death. but otherwise I don't believe he killed anyone. If this is the answer you were looking for then my question is.
Who was the father of Khim?

[Rúmil]

No, that's not right. He killed someone else, the only man he ever killed.

[Galdor]

Well you've got me. I can't find it anywhere.

[Lantarion]

Wel now I can't find it either! I remembered that Túrin killed him, but I don't know who Brandir himself killed.
As for the other question: Khîm was Mîm's son, of the Noegyth Nibin.

[Rúmil]

All right, all right, I'll help you: it's a the end of the Narn i Chîn Húrin.

[Rúmil]

Aha! bravo! the Brandir one was a hard one to answer, apparently.
The elves the Dwarves, Bilbo and Gandalf met.

Who claimed his ancestors carved Nagothrond?

[Rúmil]

Yes it was. Question?...

[Rúmil]

Fëanor, at the Ring of Doom.

Suestion: who named Nienor Níniel?

[Rúmil]

Aredhel the sister of Turgon.

Who was the great-grandfather of Arwen in male descent?

[Rúmil]

Yes, Tuor. Question?

[Rúmil]

With Mablung.

Who was the great grandfather of Arwen, in exclusive female descent this thime?

[Rúmil]

Yes your answer is correct.
Would that be Balin?

[Rúmil]

Allright then, who was the first Thain of the Shire?

[Rúmil]

IamIamIam! *dances with excitement* :D

[Rúmil]

Círdan.

Who is the only person the Watcher in the Water is recorded to have killed?

[Rúmil]

Hm? no, it wasn't.

[Rúmil]

Better luck the second time :)
Yes, it was Óin.

Awaiting question...

[Rúmil]

Would it be Imrahil, the Prince of Dol Amroth?

[Rúmil]

It was definitely Imrahil.

What was the name of the first Prince of Dol Amroth?

[Rúmil]

oh, all right then :)
Just when I'd already booked a room for you in the Mental Institution :D

[Rúmil]

No, no, not him.:D
Don't ask easy one like that, you know me :D

[Rúmil]

Indeed I think it will :D

[Rúmil]

Yes! correct.

[Rúmil]

Gilraen.

What is the capital of Arnor?

[Rúmil]

Yes, it is. (though I was expecting Fornost; Annúminas was the first capital, but it was later deserted and the capital of Ardethain was Fornost, Norbury of the Kings)

If you count Elendil as first king of Arnor, it was Valandil. I you reckon the line from Isildur, it is Eldacar.


Question: was the second king of the Reunited Kingdom?

[Rúmil]

Léod.

Who invented alphabet?

[Lantarion]

UH oh.. must guess... Nienna? I don't think so, but I don't have my sources with me here..
If that's correct (which it isn't:p). Q: What was the real name of the Ring of Doom?

[Rúmil]

Uinen, spouse of Ossë.

Whom did Maeglin love?

[Rúmil]

I think (I am not sure) that Umbar was the later name of the harbour founded in ME by the Venturers of king Aldarion. Is that right?

If it is, question: where was Elendil buried?

[Rúmil]

It wasn't founded by them, they just invaded and conquered it.

[Rúmil]

If someone gets their own question wrong, they just look foolish, that's all :D

Your turn to ask now.

[Rúmil]

Bergil son of Beregond.

Hum... question... what are the first Rapids after Lothlórien?

[Lily from Bree]

Bergil, son of Beregond. Someone else can ask a question.

[Lily from Bree]

He! He! Someone else answered the same time as I did. Well, answer to Rumil's question, um, Sarn Gebir maybe? Not sure though.

[Rúmil]

Darn, you're a quick answerer! what's your question? :)

[Lily from Bree]

Okay, new question.

Who was the daughter of Prince Imrahil and who did she marry?

[Galdor]

Stybba is the pony that Merry road when he was with the Rohirrim.

Who is Nienna?

[Rúmil]

Nienna is the Vala of Mourning (sister of Mandos and Lórien).

Who was the master of Telchar?

[Galdor]

Thingol

Qustion; Where is Meneltarma?

[Chymaera]

The mountain in the center of Numenor.

Question: Who is Galadriel's son-in-law?

[Chymaera]

A name for 'The New Row' used by Bywaterians(?);)

Question: Who dropped Bilbo under the mountian?

[Chymaera]

Bombur

What instument did Thorin play?

[Chymaera]

Sharp Glance

How did the dwarves leave the Elven Halls?

[Chymaera]

Bombur again

Who came out from Rivendell looking for Frodo?

[Chymaera]

Yay for Glorfindel!

Hail Frodo, you are abroad late.

What did Gimli want to show Frodo at the East Moria gate?

[Chymaera]

yes from the spot Durin first saw it

[Chymaera]

sorry too obscure a question for this late at night. I am off for bed will try again tommorow.

[Rúmil]

It was Pippin.
BTW, after I asked my last question before going to bed last night, someone gave a wrong answer and I could not do anything about it... the master of Telchar was not Thingol but Gamil Zirak.

That said, my question: who cannot tell a hobbit's poetry from a man's?

[Lantarion]

Lindir, one of the Elves at Rivendell.
Q: What is the Mahanaxar?

[Rúmil]

The Máhanaxar is the Ring of Doom outside the gates of Valmar.

Who tought Gandalf pity and patience?

[Ponte]

Nienna.

What was the Sindarin name for Dwarves.

[Rúmil]

Naugrim.

Who killed Mîm?

[Rúmil]

Easy! Gandalf.

Who supplied the second supper on the night Frodo arrived in Buckland?

[Rúmil]

Nope! who supplied it?

[Rúmil]

Yes. Farmer Maggot.

[Rúmil]

Thank you Confusticated :)

[Rúmil]

Was it Dori's legs?

[Rúmil]

Hmm... who did Pippin kill during the Quest? (not afterwards in the Shire)

[Rúmil]

Yeah

[Rúmil]

No. Merry cut off some hands and arms, but killed none. Pippin, apparently, just got knocked over the head before he could even scratch any.

[Rúmil]

To Steward Faramir.

What became of the last king of Arnor?

[Ecthelion]

I have a question
Q: How did Thorin Oakenshield get his last name?

[Rúmil]

Becase he used a branch of an oak as a shield at the battle of Azanulbizar.

But answer my question before you ask an new one!

[Rúmil]

No, I definitely said "king". :D

[Galdor]

What became of the last king of Arnor?

Do you mean Arnor as a whole kingdom or as in Arthedain? If you mean the latter then..

The Elf-ship bearing Arvedui was driven into ice by a storm that rose in the night.

Question; Who devised the type of metal called galvorn?

[Rúmil]

Eöl the Dark Elf.

Who wounded Glaurung at the Battle of Unnumbered Tears?

[Galdor]

Azaghal

Question: What was the original Quenya name of Gondolin?

[Rúmil]

Ondolindë, of which Gondolin is a corruption.

What was the name of the Image of Laurelin that Turgon wrought?

[Ponte]

Glingal.

Question: What were Radagasts name before he became a Istari?

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Buu
Question: What were Radagasts name before he became a Istari?

His name is Aiwendil.

Question:
What's the name of the birds that flew over the fellowship?

[Galdor]

Crebain

Question: What part did Galdor of the havens play in LOTR?

[Eldanor]

(hello :) ) I don't know if I got your question, but...

Galdor was sent by Cirdan to the house of Elrond. He was part of the council, discussing what would happen with the Ring.

Question: Eöl made two swords with that strange material he found. One was Anglachel... What was the name of the other one, and what happened to it?

[Galdor]

Sorry if my question didn't make sence. And yes you got it right.

[Rúmil]

gorgûn

And what do they call themselves?

[Rúmil]

No, they chose a more complimentary word (I don't know what it actually means but it's certainly not that :D)

[Rúmil]

Anyone else?

[Rúmil]

I believe they are the answer to my question...

The Wild men, or Drúedain, called themselves Drûg.

[Rúmil]

They called them Oghor-hai.What is the Sindarin name of the Dwarrowdelf?

[Rúmil]

Nóm, that is "Wisdom"

What was the name of the Dwarrowdelf in the first Age (that's what I meant, and I have a notion you misunderstood on purpose :D)

[Ponte]

Hadhodrond.

Question: what was the name of the last king of Arthedain.

[Chymaera]

Hadhodrond?

[Rúmil]

Yep, i believe Hadhodrond is correct.

Arvedui Last-King.

Who married the Cat-Owner?

[Rúmil]

He and no other.

[Rúmil]

Is it Belegund?

[Chymaera]

Belegund
Who was second male Vala?

[Rúmil]

hehe, sorry Chymaera, it's my question :)

Whom did Éomer marry?

[Rúmil]

Yes, but her name?

[Chymaera]

Rumil you are away:)
but my question is not that hard

You guys are too quick for mee right now back later have fun:) :p

[Rúmil]

Actually, Chymaera, it rather depends on whether you count Melkor as a Vala or not. I fyou do, tis Manwë. If you don't, it's Ulmo.

[Rúmil]

On Caradhras.

When did Pippin see Gandalf really afraid for the first time?

[Chymaera]

was thinking Ulmo

am now moving into the slow lane bye for now:D

[Rúmil]

We do know what it is, because Gandalf tells them what they are about to drink. If they had already drunk it, he wouldn't have.

[Rúmil]

Was it Bob?

[Rúmil]

Nob then?

[Rúmil]

I just checked, it's Nob.

Who was the first person they talked to in Bree?

[Rúmil]

HEYHEYHEY, it's MY question :)

(slowcoach by the way)

[Rúmil]

Huh? No. Go for the obvious, I'm not always twisted and devious!

[Rúmil]

It was the guy at the gate. Only in Rotk was he named.
And Harry Goatleaf that used to be on the West-gate

[Rúmil]

You got that one pretty easy, Confusticated :D

Answer is Frodo.

Who invented Smoking?

[Rúmil]

Sorry, I thought you were joking. Mugwort is just a patron of Butterbur's inn. (he is a hobbit.)

[Rúmil]

No, that was the main brand. Not the name of the inventor.

[Rúmil]

No. That's the place all right, but it was not Longbottom.

[Rúmil]

From Longbottom in the Southfarthing.

Who wrote Lotr?

(in the story, of course :D: who was the scribe who compiled it?)

[Lantarion]

Doh, from Longbottom! :p In the Shire, btw.
Q: What are the Sindarin and Westron names of the island jutting out at the south end of Nen Hithoel, upon which no man had ever set foot?

[Rúmil]

Hey, you stop that Pontifex! I answered fist. So there. ;)

[Rúmil]

See you again sometime. :)

[Lantarion]

****, this is all going too fast! The post time limit should be set at three miniutes, not one! :p Fools..
Now.. in answer to your question: the 'Lord of the Rings' was not written by anybody in Middle-Earth, because its name was not yet "the LotR". The Red Book of Westmarch, in which the events described in the LotR are recorded, was written by Bilbo and Frodo Baggins, as well as Samwise Gamgee.
My previous question still stands.. :)

[Rúmil]

The answer to your question is Amon Hen and Amon Lhaw, the Hills of Hearing and of Sight. But it is not on them no man set foot, it is on Tol Brandir above them.

But Frodo, Bilbo and Sam are the original writers of papers and Stuff. Who was the Compiler, the guy that made it all into an orderly book?

[Rúmil]

Eärwen.

Who was Finarfin's?

[Rúmil]

I already asked that question yesterday. Idril.

Who did Maeglin hate? :D

[Rúmil]

Oth are correct, I think :)

[Rúmil]

Same answer. Tuor.

What date did Gandalf come back to life?

[Rúmil]

But Idril Celebrindal was wise and far-seeing, and her heartmisgave her, and foreboding crept upon her spirit as a cloud. Therefore in that time she let prepare a secret way, that should lead down from the city and passing out beneath the surface of the plain issue far beyond the walls, northward of Amon Gwareth; and she contrived it that the work was known but to few, and no whisper of it came to Maeglin's ears. It was Idril's idea, but in Bolt it says it was Tuor actually excavated it.

But maybe you were refering to Maeglin's tunneling in search for lodes of ore?

[Rúmil]

On the 17th, three days later.

... I believe I am going to rest for a while, so I won't ask another question right now. Let someone else do it. :)

[Rúmil]

whoops... I read your post rather quickly... sorry :o

[Chymaera]

Nobody left a question. So try this.:p

There were two battles in the Shire, One was the Battle of Bywater. What was the other one, and what year?

[Ponte]

Alfirin or Uilos

Question: What was the first name Mandos had?

[Ponte]

I found it in the Unfinished tales.

Then Cirion went up the stair with Eorl and the others followed; and when they came to the summit they saw there a wide oval place of level turf of witch grew the white flowers of alfirin, and the westering suntouched them with gold.

Later there is a note that says:

alfirin: the simbelmyne of the kings mounds below Edoras, and the uilos that Tuor saw in the great ravine of Gondolin in the elder Days; see p. 55, note 27.

Then Elemakil went before them and they followed him into the pale light; and Tuor saw beside the way a sward of grass, where like stars bloomed the white flowers of uilos, the Evermind that knows no seasons and winters not.

That is were uilos is mentioned.

The page 55 note 27:
These were the flowers that bloomed abundatly on the burial mounds of the Kings of Rohan below Edoras and witch Gandalf named in the language of the Rohirrirm (as translated into Old English) simbelmyne, that is 'Evermind' , 'for they blossom in all the seasons of the year'. (The Two Towers III 6)

[Ponte]

The answer to that question is in the unfinished tales.

[Lantarion]

Last posted by Pontifex
Q: What are the Sindarin and Westron names of the island jutting out at the south end of Nen Hithoel, upon which no man had ever set foot?
Last posted by Rúmil
The answer to your question is Amon Hen and Amon Lhaw, the Hills of Hearing and of Sight. But it is not on them no man set foot, it is on Tol Brandir above them.
Rúmil, you were wrong!! Haha! :p The answers are: Sindarin name: Tol Brandir. Westron name: Tindrock.

[Elvengypsy]

i thought that Mandos' original name was Namo, too. if not, its Irmo...am i right? :o

[Lantarion]

And BEHOLD!! I have the answer!
A reference is then made to Olofantur, which was the earlier true name of Lórien, the Vala who was 'master of visions and dreams', before it was changed to Irmo in The Silmarillion (as Nurufantur was changed to Námo (Mandos)...
Page 513, 'The Istari', 'Part Four', 'Unfinished Tales'

PS: Welcome to the forums, Elvengypsy. :)

[Elu Thingol]

Name the seven gates of Gondolin.

[Chymaera]

First the Gate of Wood
Second the Gate of Stone
Third the Gate of Bronze
Forth the Gate of Writhen Iron
Fifth the Gate of Silver
Sixth the Golden Gate
Seventh The Great Gate. The Gate of Steel wrought by Maeglin

Question: What was the name of the tree Lúthien was imprisoned in?

[Lantarion]

Hírilorn.
Q: What was the name of the stream that flowed into the river Narog at Nargothrond?

[Chymaera]

Ringwel

Question:Name Tuor's ship?

[Ceorl]

Earrame

Which of the relics of Arnor, came originally from the first age of the Sun?

[Chymaera]

The ring of Barahir

Question: What was the name of Isildur's second son? :evil twisted grin::D

[Ceorl]

Off the top of my head... Arvedui I?
I know he was left in Imladris during the Last Alliance

[Ceorl]

Or is it Valandil?

I thought he was his Nephew but according to LotR he was a king of Arnor

Ahh yes it is Valandil, found it in the Sil. (by the wat I hope it is ok for me to look these up? I try them in my head first but some are just too difficult)

[Ceorl]

Ok my question,

I will name 4 ainu and you say what they are related to i.e Ulmo is water

Nienna
Mandos (2 things)
Lorien
Olorin

[Chymaera]

Sorry, Ceorl
Valandil was Isildur's fourth son.
The question was not meant to be easy :D

There is no shame looking in the book, that is partly what this trivia/quiz is about ;)

Nienna = Lady of Mourning or Tears
Mandos = The Judge, The Doom of Mandos, Curse of the Noldor
Lorien = Irmo, Master of Desire
Olorin = Gandalf, wisdom, pity

Still mine, Question: What was the name of Isildur's second son? :p :p :D

[Ceorl]

A! second son, sorry misread it thought you said youngest, answer therefore is Aratan.

My ainu question still stands Olorin is not quite right(answer in UT)
and you didn't get either of the two for Mandos

[Lantarion]

Hmm, well I don't know what to answer for Mandos except 1) Death. Maybe it's 2) Direct Link to Ilúvatar. :p
Olórin? Um.. I looked in UT, but I didn't find much. His name would seem to have something to do with dreams or visions or something like that.. But I'm not sure. Pity?

[Grond]

Originally posted by Ceorl
A! second son, sorry misread it thought you said youngest, answer therefore is Aratan.

My ainu question still stands Olorin is not quite right(answer in UT)
and you didn't get either of the two for Mandos Concerning Mandosfrom The Silmarillion,
He is the keeper of the houses of the Dead, and the summoner of the spirits of the slain. He forgets nothing; and he knows all things that shall be, save only those that lie still in the freedom of Ilúvatar. He is the Doomsman of the Valar; but he pronounces his dooms and his judgements only at the bidding of Manwë.Concerning Olorinfrom Unfinished Tales,
Words deriving from this root are cited: Quenya olos "dream, vision," plural olozi/olori; õla- (impersonal) "to dream;" olosta "dreamy." A reference is then made to Olofantur, which was the earlier "true" name of Lórien, the Vala who was "master of visions and dreams," before it was changed to Irmo in The Silmarillion (as Nurufantur was changed to Námo (Mandos): though the plural Fëanturi for these two "brethren" survived in the Valaquenta). These discussion of olos, olor are clearly to be connected with the passage in the Valaquenta (The Silmarillion pp.30-1) where it is said that Olórin dwelt in Lórien in Valinor, and that though he loved the Elves, he walked among them unseen, or in form as one of them, and they did not know whence came the fair visions or the promptings of wisdom that he put into their hearts.

and

In earlier version of this passage it is said that Olórin was "counsellor of Irmo," and that in the hearts of those who hearkened to him awoke thoughts "of fair things that had not yet been but might yet be made for the enrichment of Arda."

[Ceorl]

Well done, now your question.

[Grond]

Name the three generations of the Royal Line of the Kingdom of Greenwood the Great.

[Ceorl]

hehe I got it, Oropher father of Thranduil father of Legolas of the Nine Walkers.

That was a hard one wow.

My question: what/who/where is Hisilome

[Grond]

Errrr... From The Book of Lost Tales I, The Chaining of Melko,
Dor Lomin or the 'Land of Shadow' was that region named of the Eldar Hisilome (and this means 'Shadowy Twilights')... and it is so called by reason of the scanty sun which peeps little over the Iron Mountains to the east and south of it.Name at least three non-Valar who have caused Melkor physical injury.

[Turgon]

Fingolfin, Beren and Thorondor.

Question: What in Middle Earth was Stybba?

[Grond]

Merry's pony.

What different physical characteristic did the Palantir of Orthanc possess?

[Ceorl]

Physical characteristics? size colour?

a globe of crystal, dark, but glowing with a heart of fire

There it was: a smooth globe of crystal, now dark and dead, lying bare before his knees.

ok? all taken from LotR

question: What link is there between the phial of Galadriel and Shelob?

[Grond]

Phial of Galadriel = Light of Earendilfrom Fellowship of the Ring, Farewell to Lorien,
..."In this phial," she said, "is caught the light of Earendil's star, set amid the waters of my fountain...." Light of Earendil = Silmarilfrom The Silmarillion, Of the Voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath.
...Now fair and marvellous was that vessel made, and it was filled with a wavering flame, pure and bright; and Eärendil the Mariner sat at the helm, glistening with dust of elven-gems, and the Silmaril was bound upon his brow. Far he journeyed in that ship, even into the starless voids; but most often was he seen at morning or at evening, glimmering in sunrise or sunset, as he came back to Valinor from voyages beyond the confines of the world...Light of Silmaril = Two Treesfrom The Silmarillion, Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor
...Yet that crystal was to the Silmarils but as is the body to the Children of Ilúvatar: the house of its inner fire, that is within it and yet in all parts of it, and is its life. And the inner fire of the Silmarils Fëanor made of the blended light of the Trees of Valinor, which lives in them yet, though the Trees have long withered and shine no more...Shelob = Offspring of Ungoliant from The Two Towers, Shelob's Lair,
...Far and wide her lesser broods, bastards of the miserable mates, her own offspring, that she slew, spread from glen to glen, from the Ephel Doriath to the eastern hills, to Dol Guldur and the fastnesses of Mirkwood. But none could rival her, Shelob the Great, last child of Ungoliant to trouble the unhappy world...Ungoliant = Co-thief of the Silmarilfrom The Silmarillion, Of the Flight of the Noldor,
...And they told that Melkor had broken the stronghold of Formenos, and taken all the jewels of the Noldor that were hoarded in that place; and the Silmarils were gone...Ungoliant = Murderess of the Two TreesFrom the Silmarillion, Of the Darkening of Valinor
...Then the Unlight of Ungoliant rose up even to the roots of the Trees, and Melkor sprang upon the mound; and with his black spear he smote each Tree to its core, wounded them deep, and their sap poured forth as it were their blood, and was spilled upon the ground. But Ungoliant sucked it up, and going then from Tree to Tree she set her black beak to their wounds, till they were drained; and the poison to Death that was in her went into their tissues and withered them, root, branch, and leaf; and they died...
As you can see, at the heart of the Phial was the light of Earendil which was light from a Silmaril which was light captured from the Two Trees. The Two Trees were wounded by Melkor and poisoned to their death by Ungoliant, who was also a co-thief of the Silmarils with Melkor. So there are actually two tie ins as both Shelob and the Phial of Galadriel tie in to both the Two Trees and a Silmaril.

Now the question I meant to ask last time....
What different physical characteristics did the Palantir of Osgiliath possess?

[Ceorl]

Hey well done! I thought was quite a hard one.

Pity I am at school at the moment and ont have my books, if the teacher catches me I would probably get detention for a month.

[Ceorl]

hmm let's see..

They were perfect spheres,appearing when at rest to be made of solid glass or crystal deep black in hue. At smallest they were about a foot in diameter, but some, certainly the stones of Osgiliath and Amon Sul, were much larger and could not be lifted by one man.

They were very heavy but perfectly smooth.

umm hope that is enough, basically it was big heavy perfectly spherical, and seemed to be made of dark glass or crystal, though by what method Feanor crafted them we will never know.

[Grond]

Originally posted by Ceorl
...umm hope that is enough, basically it was big heavy perfectly spherical, and seemed to be made of dark glass or crystal, though by what method Feanor crafted them we will never know. Your answer is correct. It was the largest of the Stones and was housed in a huge table specially designed for it. Unlike the lesser stones of Orthanc, Minis Anor and Minas Ithil, which were small in stature and could be held in your hand, the Master-stone of Osgiliath had to be walked around. If you wanted to look towards the West, you would circle the stone to the East until you were opposite of the position where you wanted to look. You would then peer towards the desired location.

Sorry, I got carried away... your question. :)

[Lantarion]

OK, I guess I'll ask one now:
Q: About what year were the Towers of the Teeth abandoned?

[Ceorl]

During the reign of Telemnar the 26th king? I cant find a date at the moment and I need to sleeeeep.

[Lantarion]

Others are free to answer as well. :D

[Grond]

From the LotR it appears that the Morannon was abandoned during or shortly after the Great Plague. That would have been TA 1634 - 1640. ?????????

Also from notes in Unfinished Tales, Of Cirion and Eorl, CT speaks of his father writing that the Morannon was occupied by Gondor until TA 1944, shortly after the battle against the Wainriders.
??????

If I had to guess a definitive date, I would guess TA 1640. :)

[Ceorl]

Ok ask a question

[Grond]

Name the most ancient artifact kept by the Dunedain of the North.

[In Flames]

Hm..ill take a guess at that, is it the "Sceptre of Annúminas"?

[Ponte]

Isn't it the ring of barahir? The sceptre of Annúminas is the oldest thing made of human hands. Or perhaps i'm wrong.

[Lantarion]

It was TA 1636, btw, but very close. :) (That was also the year of the Great Plague)
The Scepter was a mark of royalty, if I remember rightly; and Aragorn got it back from Elrond at his wedding. The Ring of Felagund would seem to be the oldest.. If not, then I don't know.. Maybe Narsil (Andúril)?

[Grond]

Buu gets the correct answer. Please ask the next question Buu. :)

[Ponte]

my question is: How were Celeborn and Nimloth related( the elves not the trees)

[Turgon]

Celeborn was Nimloth's uncle according to the UT genealogy. Celeborn and Galathil were the sons of Galadhon (son of Elmo) and Nimloth was Galathil's daughter.

Question: Who ranked after the King of the Reunited Kingdom (Elessar) in the Fourth age power chain?

[Galdor]

I think it is the Steward.

[Ceorl]

it would be either the steward, faramir as galdor said, or else Aragorns son( cant remember his name atm at school now).

[Grond]

Ceorl has actually answered the question. The Steward is the second highest ranking member of royalty after the king. He is, however, not second in line to the throne. Aragorns son, Elendur, would be the heir/king designate and were he to die, in Numenorean fashion the throne would go to his eldest daughter.

It was unclear whether Aragorn intended to follow Numenorean tradition or the old Gondorean tradition of going to the next male in line. Were the latter the case, the heir would become Aragorn's closest male kin in the event that the Elendur died.

(There... I think I have that right!)

Right, Galdor's question I think.

[Turgon]

Actually The Prince of Dol Amroth is the second highest ranking member of the Royalty of Gondor (with the Prince of Ithilien ranking third - see letter 244) but yes the Steward would hold power in the King's absence so it's kind of a moot point.

;)

Your question Galdor!

[Lantarion]

As this thread is going nowhere at the moment I will ask a question in place of Galdor:

Name one of the Eagles who rescued Frodo and Sam from Orodruin.

[Galdor]

Gwaihir

question: name the eldest son of Ulfang the Black


Sorry guys, I didn't realize it was my question.

[Grond]

Ulfast!!

What name did Earendil and Aragorn share?

[Nóm]

Estel??

[Grond]

Originally posted by Confusticated
Estel?? You've got it!!! Earendil was known as Gil-estel and Aragorn was known as Estel. :);)

Your turn!!!

[Nóm]

Who tried to kill Maeglin shortly after he and his mother reached Gondolin?

[Ponte]

Eöl

Question: Who killed Maeglin

[Grond]

from The Silmarillion, Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin
Tuor sought to rescue Idril from the sack of the city, but Maeglin had laid hands on her, and on Eärendil; and Tuor fought with Maeglin on the walls, and cast him far out, and his body as it fell smote the rocky slopes on Amon Gwareth thrice ere it pitched into the flames below.Who devised the Cirth runes?

[Turgon]

Daeron.

Question: Where did Tuor catch a brief glimpse of his ill-fated cousin Túrin travelling northwards 'on business'?

[Ponte]

Near the pools of Ivrin.

Question: What was the name of the first lord of Andunie.

[In Flames]

Not 100% sure, but id say Tar-Elendil.

Correct?

[Ponte]

Nope but he was grandfather of the first lord.

[In Flames]

Okay, so its Elros Tar-Minyatur then?

[Ponte]

Uhm... Elros Tar-Minyatur was the first king of Numenor and Tar-Elendil was the fourth king of Numenor. None of them was the first lord Anduine but as I said Tar-Elendir was grandfather of the first lord.

[In Flames]

I'll just stop guessing now berfore it gets to embarresing..:o

Or maybe its to late for that..

Bleh..my memory doesnt serve me well right now..

[Grond]

Tar-Elendil's daughter was Silmarien and her son Valandil was the first Lord of the Andunie... who later became known as the faithful. :)

[Ponte]

That is right, you can post a question now.

[Grond]

The Dwarves of Durin believed that Durin's Dwarf Ring of Power was different from the others. How so?

[Ponte]

They believed that the elves had given it to Durin III and that Sauron did'nt give it to Durin III.

Question: What means Yôzâyan in Adunaic.

[Lantarion]

The name for Númenor, meaning 'The Land of Gift'.

Q: Which King of Gondor was slain in TA 1944?

[Ponte]

Ondoher.

Question: Who became king after Ondoher?

[In Flames]

Eärnil..

Tell me im right this time :)

[Ponte]

In Flames, the right answer is...



Eärnil:). You can post an question now

[In Flames]

*whew* Finally ;)

Q: What is the dwarven name for Caradhras?

[Ponte]

Barazinbar.

If that is right then my question is: Who were the first ruling queen over Numenor?

[In Flames]

Tar-Ancalimë.

Q:Who was Gamil Zirak?

[Ponte]

He was a Dwarf smith and the master of Telchar. He was called "the old"

Question: What was the name of the hills in the west of Eriador where the white towers were?

[Lantarion]

The Emyn Beraid, 'Tower Hills'.

Q: Where is Everholt, and who slew the great boar there?