Quiz/Trivia

[gate7ole]

Maybe because it means something like "old man"?

[TheFool]

sharku (^) Orkish for old man, correct!

Next question please

[gate7ole]

Where can be mithril found?

[Lantarion]

Hmm, I understood from something I read that there was a sort of long 'thread' of mithril, but the motherlode must have been somewhere near Khazad-dûm. It can also be found near Erebor, and all along the Misty Mountains.

If that is correct:
Q: What is the Anarríma?

[gate7ole]

The exact answer is:
It is said that mithril can be found only in Moria. But there is a contradiction because mithril was also found in Numenor. Either way, we Numenor now sunk, only Moria has mithril!

[Lantarion]

Ah yes, I forgot Númenor! But I was mostly right, so: answer my question! :)

[gate7ole]

A group of stars made by Varda, for the welcoming of elves.

What is Rochallor and by whom was it given to the owner?

[Ceorl]

Well Rochallor was the horse of Fingolfin, however I cant find who gave it to him and as that seems to be the main point of the question I wont place a question. I assume this is a HoME thing?

Let me guess that it was given to him by Orome. If that is right then tell me please.

[gate7ole]

It was given to him by Maedhros. All the horses were put in the ships and with the split of the two hosts of the Noldor, the Feanorians took all the ships (and the horses in them). After the deed of Fingon and the rescue of Maedhros, he gave them a portion of the horses. I read it in HOME (book 4), but it is also said in Foster's guide, so it can't be written only in HOME.

[Lantarion]

Ah, I adore R. Foster's Complete Guide!! It is invaluable, and was my very life source before I got the Silmarillion and UT.. I realize that some of the facts are either incomplete or just completely wrong, but as a whole it is very neat, correct and consistent. Way to go, Mr. Foster! :)
Anyway, I'll jump in again (as is my wont) :p..

Q: What is 'Ingwë's tower', and where is it located?

[gate7ole]

It is the place where Infwe dwelt in Tirion, before the Vanyar left the city for Valmar. The tower -though deserted- was taken care by the Noldor that continued to dwell in Tirion until the War of Wrath. After it, noone knows, Tirion was probably deserted, and so was the tower of Ingwe.

How many years did the Teleri stay in Tol Eressea, before establishing Alqualonde?

[Ceorl]

100 years of the sun, which equates to just over 10 Valian years.

Of which warrior was the star sytem Menalgavor a representation of?

[gate7ole]

Actually the Teleri stayed in Eressea for 100 Valian Years which is 1000 years of the sun.

Menelvagor means "Swordsman of the sky", so ir probably represents a swordsman.

Who was the father of Denethor (of the Green-elves of Ossiriand)?

[Lantarion]

The constellaion Orion, formed by Varda in preparation for the awakening of the Elves. Menelmacar forbodes the Last Battle.
So is it Tulkas? What do you mean by 'warrior'?
But Gate, your question can't be right because the question demans a specific warrior.. hmm

And anyway, the correct answer to my question was Mindon Eldaliéva.. You really must be more specific, Gate!

[Ceorl]

From Morgoth's Ring:
It came to pass that after the Teleri had dwelt for 100 years of our reckoning upon the lonely isle their hearts were changed, and they were drawn towards the light that flowed from aman

'our reckoning' I would take to mean the reckoning of men who only woke during the days of the sun. each Valian year is equivalent to 9.582 of our years, which means that 100 of our years is equal to just over 10 Valian years.

The Menalvagor question is a difficult one sorry; it represents Turin Turambar, who deals the killing stroke to Melkor in the final battle(strange how this man was made in the stars before ever he was born hey?)

New question: From where does the isle of Tol Eressea originate?
(note: do not say it was an island drifting in the middle of the sea before it was used to bring the Eldar to Aman)

[Ceorl]

Oh and the father of Denethor was Nano (Dan in the tongue of those people)

He led a host of Teleri south along the Anduin from the March of the Eldar. Those people became the Green-Elves.

[Lantarion]

As I remember, Tol Eressëa was detached from Middle-Earth by Tulkas, who 'ferried' the Elves over the Sea to Aman.
If that's right:
Q: What is/are the Deldúwath, what does it mean and why is it called thus?

[gate7ole]

Tol Eressea was originally used to transfer the Valar to Aman.
It was created by the destruction of the lamps by Melkor that caused the transformation of Arda.

As for previous questions:

From the Later Annals of Valinor (HOME V):

...each Valian Year is as ten years of the Sun now are
...
V.Y 2010-2110: By the deeds of Osse, the Teleri came not at once into Valinor but during this time they dwelt upon Tol-Eressea.
V.Y.: In this year the Teleri came in their ships to Valinor...

Ceorl, one of our resources is wrong:confused:

As for Menalvagor, how can it represent Turin, since it was created before the rise of Men? Was it a prophechy?

[Lantarion]

Originally posted by Lantarion
Q: What is/are the Deldúwath, what does it mean and why is it called thus?
My question stands. :)

[Wonko The Sane]

it's one of the later names of Dorthonion, (Taur-nu-fuin is also a later name), which is "Land of the pines" the region to the north of Beleriand . And it means "Horror of Night-Shadow"...I believe Treebeard sings about Dorthonion in one of his songs.

My turn?

[Lantarion]

Almost, just say why it's called that. :)

[Wonko The Sane]

It's called that because as Morgoth's power grew in the north Barahir stayed in Dorthonion, refusing to flee, and he battled his enemies there until Morgoth crushed him almost completely. Because of this all the forests of Dorthonion were slowly turned into such a creepy darkly-magical place that even the Orcs wouldn't go near it unless they ABSOLUTELY had to. So the name changed to Delduwath-"Horror of Night-shadow" or alternately Taur-nu-fuin-"The Forest Under Nightshade".

NOW is it my turn?

[Lantarion]

Sure; just pay the obligatory "New Post Fee" of $94.99, or call 555-STEAL.
:D

[gate7ole]

Wonko, I'm a little impatient. I'll take your place and ask a question:

Name 3 objects made by the great smith Telchar.

[Ponte]

Narsil
The dragonhelm of Hador
Angrist

Question: Who is the only dwarfwoman named by Tolkien?

[gate7ole]

Dís, Thorin's sister.

How long did the White Council exist?

[Lantarion]

Well, from the first meeting to the last meeting of the Council it was 490 years in between (TA 2463 - TA 2953), but I suppose the White Council didn't 'expire' until the head of the Council (Saruman) did..

Q: How many jewels did the Silver Helm have, and why?

[Wonko The Sane]

I feel cheated! It's my right to post a question as I answered the last question right... :(

Can I jump in after someone answers the next turn? Cause I wanted to ask one... :(

[gate7ole]

It had seven gems to represent Elendil and one other to represent Anarion.

And I give my turn to Wonko, whom I cheated a few posts ago and took his place.

[Wonko The Sane]

I'm a girl!

And here's my question...more of a technical thing about JRR Tolkien's works than about LOTR specifically but here goes:

What are the three main components JRR Tolkien claims are found in most mythology or works such as LotR, and how are they represented in his works. :)

[Lantarion]

OMG, this looks like an essay-question in an English test! :)
Uh, let's see..

Good vs. Evil: Need I really say? Oh ok: Gandalf vs. Sauron, Aragorn vs. Sauron, Gandalf vs. Saruman, Free Peoples vs. Sauron, Saruman, et al.

****, I can't think of anything else! :eek:
Gosh, what's going on here?! And anyway, I think the q's should be specific to actual facts in the books, not elements present in the literature. :p

[Wonko The Sane]

I'm looking for three specific items he names in one of his letters. So it's an actual piece by Tolkien I'm thinking of...
Is that alright?

[gate7ole]

First Wonko, I'm sorry, I din't know your gender but "wonko the sane" sounded more than a male nickname (at least compared to the female nicknames I know).

As for your question, I don't know the answer. I can only guess. I think we should look for specific items and not concepts.
So my guesses are:
battles
magical items
heroes

[Wonko The Sane]

Alright..since we can't get it and everyone thinks my question is dumb I'll give the answers.

The letter that it's included in is letter no. 131 and it's included in part in the beginning of my copy of The Sil. The three items are:

Machine (Magic)
Mortality (Or immortality)
Fall (as in from grace, like the fall of the Elves from the favor of the Valar in the war of the sil)

[Lantarion]

Hmm, eentewesting..
Ok, someone else post a q.

[Wonko The Sane]

Anyone else...nobody likes my questions...*sulks*

[gate7ole]

I don’t think that we didn’t like your question. We just didn’t know the answer. As a matter of fact, I prefer these kinds of questions, that don’t require just a name or a date. But it’s hard to find such questions. So, if you have any more, post them!

My new question:
What happened to Shadowfax after the War of the Ring?

[Wonko The Sane]

He..*guesses*
Went back to Rohan? Gandalf gave him back to the king guy or whatever...? Maybe?

[gate7ole]

No. Any other guess?

[Ithrynluin]

Could Shadowfax have taken the Straight Road with Gandalf?

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by ithrynluin
Could Shadowfax have taken the Straight Road with Gandalf?
You found it!
Sam at the rejected Epilogue of Lotr says that Gandalf could not leave Shadowfax and took him to Aman.

[Lantarion]

Yes, I thought so too.
Ok, my other self is just so impatient that he's going to have to cut in. I apologize for my split personality. ;)

Q: Name Círdan's grandfather.

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Lantarion
Q: Name Círdan's grandfather.

Wow,Cirdan had a GRANDfather? Who would have thought? Well I probably don't have the right HOME volume to look for this!

[Lantarion]

*whistles*
;)

[Anamatar IV]

i thought cirdan was like the oldest of the old! As a *grand*father I might have said eru. Valar fathers of elves, eru father of valar but i know thats not correct.

[gate7ole]

Ok, Lantarion you won this round. None seems to know the answer.
Though I doubt that your answer can be completely accurate. It is nowhere explicitely said that Cirdan was awakened in Cuivienen or not, or whether he was a second generation elf(in order to have a grandfather). But then, maybe Tolkien gave us a hint but I haven't found it.
Give us the answer!

[Lantarion]

It was a trick question! :D :p As far as I know, Círdan was one of the first Elves to be born beside Cuiviénen, so having a grandfather would be quite odd.. ;)
Heh, ok next (and if trick quesitons are too cruel, let's make this last one the last). :)

[Ithrynluin]

Lanty,
you are an evil,evil person you know that?;)

[Wonko The Sane]

That wasn't even a question.
Everyone said, "He had a grandfather/!?" and "That's impossible!" so...yeah. We saw through that.
:)

[gate7ole]

Oh Lantarion, you'd better not do this again. I kept on searching through all the books for Cirdan's grandfather.

But, let's continue the game.
"Who was the first elf that died in Aman?"

[Ithrynluin]

Miriel.

Who is the Lord of forests?

[gate7ole]

Orome.

Which percentage of the elves went to Valinor?

[Elu Thingol]

It would be impossible to give a true percentage as there are no exact numbers given. Are you looking for an estimate?

[gate7ole]

I'm asking for a percentage of the original number of elves that wrrived to Aman (after the invitation of the Valar). Of course this cannot be a true percentage, but an estimate related to the numbers of the first awakened elves.

[Wonko The Sane]

A third...or...what is that...33.3 percent.

[gate7ole]

Sorry, that's is not right. Close, but not right.

[Wonko The Sane]

2/3rds then.
66.7 percent.

[gate7ole]

Come on, are you just guessing? You won't find it that way. It is not a common fraction.

[Nimawae's hope]

Hmmm....perhaps it is something like two-fifths?

[Wonko The Sane]

Originally posted by gate7ole
Come on, are you just guessing? You won't find it that way. It is not a common fraction.

I'm NOT just guessing...those were real guesses...but I have no more.

[Elu Thingol]

The first great sundering of the elves took place when half refused the summons. So 1/2 are headed toward Valinor. However, 2/3 of that half definetly makes it to Valinor: these are the Noldor and the Vanyar. Of the last 1/3 which is the Teleri, 1/4 of the Teleri were lead away by Lenwe and of this 1/4 were lead back by Denethor. Then about 1/5 stayed behind with Thingol because he could not be found thus the Sindar. And also some were persuaded by Osse, the falathrim, I'm guessing about 1/4. So only 39/80 of the Teleri made it.

My final estimate: 199/480ths made it to Valinor or about 41.5%

tell me if I'm totally of base here and if it gives some fraction in the books

[ravenbrand]

Id say that sounds about right to me :rolleyes:
does any one mind if i ask a new question?
well two actually!
what other name is narsil known by?
what symbol appears on the blade of the affore mentioned sword?
this is my first post by the way!!

[gate7ole]

Elu Thingol, it was a good guess. The actual numbers are given in HOME XI: The War of Jewels. There is says:
Number of elves awakened 144. From them:
Minyar(Vanyar) 14: Avari 0 Eldar 14
Tatyar(Noldor) 56: Avari 28 Eldar 28
Nelyar(Teleri) 74: Avari 28 Eldar 46 > Amanyar Teleri 20
Sindar and Nandor 26.

So, from the first awakened elves to Aman went 14 + 28 + 20=62. And stayed to ME (either as Avari or as Sindar and Nandor) 28 + 28 + 26=82.
So, the percentage is 62/144=43%
So, Elu Thingol, you almost found the number, although using a different approach.

Ravenbrand welcome to the forum.
As for your questions:
The Narsil was renamed to Anduril by Aragorn.
As for the symbol, I’m not sure. Is it the sun and the moon?

[ravenbrand]

Hmm sun and the moon yes. Theres something else aswell though!!
;)

[Nimawae's hope]

This place is full of people who know way more than me!:o :o :o

I can't remember what else was on the sword. Is it the words of the sword?

[ravenbrand]

there are runes on the sword aswell but im talking about the symbol it has a cresent moon a sun and.....

[Smaug Of Erabor]

Hello, i know im kinda cheating y asking a question with out answering but i thought i would anyways. SORRY :(

Who killed Smaug? (me)

Sorry if this question was aked there was no way i was gonna read all of the posts in this topic, i got to about page 32 before my head got painful and i needed to eat some more stupid paste to calm my all this new information i have tried to absorb. (with out success) well some anyways..

[Wonko The Sane]

A crescent moon, a star, a hammer and anvil...
And Bard.

I'm right?

[Nimawae's hope]

A hammer and anvil? Surely not.....

Ok, I'll throw out another lame guess. Vines? Or stars like Wonks said?

[gate7ole]

Seems that Ravenbrand has got us. Personally, I haven't found the answer anywhere, yet. And since everyone seems to be guessing, Ravenbrand could spare us and give the answer.

[ravenbrand]

pg 269 LOTR "the ring goes south"

"seven stars set between the cresent moon and the rayed sun"
woohoo i won!! sorry!:o

[Lantarion]

Wow. I bow down to your superior quote-finding skills, O Ravenbrand! *bows to his knees* :D
Welcome to the forum, excellent question (we really should have known that, people). ;)

It would really be your turn now, Raven, but I will live up to my notoriously evil reputation and cut in *muahahaa*. ;)

Q: How many hours was the Fellowship in Moria? *muahahaa*
:)

(I'm obviously looking for approximate numbers here, no need for miniutes and seconds and the like) :)

[Wonko The Sane]

*refuses to answer Lantarion's question even though she knows the answer*

You're a mod, Lanty! You're supposed to follow the rules! Watch out or I'll report you..to...um...to...Beorn? Um...no...um...Watch out, ok!

:) I'm going to wait for Ravenbrand's question!

[ravenbrand]

hmm i think i remember gandalf saying it takes three days to cross the mines so 72 hours roughly,no make that 80hours

[Wonko The Sane]

Did you not listen, Ravenbrand?!
Post your question!!
*sigh*
Nobody ever responds to me making a stand...

But yeah...about three days-ish...

[Celebthôl]

i'll respond *stands ground with wonks* that'll teach um!

[Wonko The Sane]

*nods*
It certainly will my accented friend!

[Nimawae's hope]

Stubbornness is the rule of the day!! I hope you're not hurting Lantarion's feelings too much.

*To Lantarion* Don't take it personal dear. Wonks does this to everybody....

[Wonko The Sane]

I do not! I'm just making a point...

Although if Ravenbrand doesn't actually POST a question I suppose my point is moot and it won't matter WHAT kind of stand I make.

[Nimawae's hope]

True, true. Sad how these things work isn't it. *Sigh* Very irritating. Um....next question.....anybody.......and unlike Wonko here I'll make my foolish guesses at anyone who tosses out a question..:D :D :D J/K!

[gate7ole]

Ok, since the last "entitled" person is absent, I will kindly take his place.
(It's only a game, it doesn't matter not sticking to the rules)

Who were the 1st and 2nd Vala that made contact with the elves after their awakening?

[Wonko The Sane]

Manwe and Morgoth

[Celebthôl]

i think it was actually orome and morgoth but im not sure

[Wonko The Sane]

Orome and Manwe?

[Celebthôl]

well orome was the first to find them (while hunting thorugh the east of middle earth) and i pretty sure he took them to beleriand and after that im not sure might of bin manwe *scratches head*

[gate7ole]

Celebthôl is right.
It was Morgoth who first found them and corrupted some of them (The Hunter)
Then Orome found them

[Celebthôl]

yay and my question is, what did Sam first see when he first looked into the mirror of Galadriel?

[Lantarion]

*sniff* No no, I'm fine, don't worry about me; don't worry about the poor, saddened, evil Mod.. *wails*
:p

As for the question, it was an "inky blackness" wasn't it? Or do you mean which vision did he see first?

[Celebthôl]

Ur not supposed to ask me that coz its a trick question!

[Turgon]

A trick question? gasp! So the answer is an inky blackness?

Question: Who was the last man to be born in Númenor?

[Celebthôl]

thats a stinker um anarion?

[gate7ole]

Not Anarion but Menendil his son.

From whom were the lords od Andunie descented?

[Elu Thingol]

The Lords of Andunie were descendants of Tar-Elendil the fourth king of Numenor

Which horse was said to have understood the speech of men?

[Ithrynluin]

Felaróf,the steed of Eorl the Young.

Who supposedly "brought" elvish blood into the line of Princes of Dol Amroth?

[Elu Thingol]

The elf-maiden who accompanied Nimrodel, Mithrellas.

Who is the tallest of all the Children of the World?

[Ithrynluin]

Thingol is called the tallest of all the Children of Ilúvatar.

How tall is Galadriel?;)

[Celebthôl]

erm bout 6,6

[Elu Thingol]

I don't remember Galadriel's height ever being mentioned. Do you mean in comparison with someone else?

[Wonko The Sane]

She's about 5'8" because that's the perfect height!! ;)

[Ithrynluin]

Yes her height is mentioned.
She's neither 5'8 nor 6'6.

[Nimawae's hope]

Man! Where did you figure they mentioned her height? Too weird.....ok my guess is 5'10"

[Celebthôl]

6 foot

[Elu Thingol]

Galadriel is the same height as Celeborn.

I hope your not getting "6 foot" from Robert Foster's Complete Guide to Middle Earth

[Celebthôl]

Which is stated as very tall
also: nope just a stab in the dark guess!

[Ithrynluin]

That's incorrect. Robert Foster is not the most reliable source I'd say.
I'll let you guess some more before revealing the answer - or maybe someone with the correct one comes along?;)

[Elu Thingol]

Galadriel is ‘the tallest of all the women of the Eldar of whom tales tell’, and was said to be man-high, but it is noted ‘according to the measure of the Dúnedain and the men of old’, indicating a height of about six feet four inches."

[Ithrynluin]

6'4 it is. Go ahead and post a new one.

[Elu Thingol]

Here we go

In which land is it said that there can be a telepathic relation between a horse and a man when there is a great love between the two?

[Celebthôl]

Erm Rohan?

[Galdor]

I think it's Numenor

If I'm right then my question is,
What are two other names for Turin Turambar?

[Elu Thingol]

Numenor is correct

Bane of Glaurung and The Black Sword

[Lantarion]

Go ahead and ask a new question, Elu. :)

[Elu Thingol]

What name signifies Child of the Twilight?

[Lantarion]

Well, the only one I can remember right now is Arwen Undómiel.. But the suffix -iel mrans 'maiden', not 'child'.. Hmm.

[Elu Thingol]

Keep trying:) .

[Turgon]

Lómion, the name Aredhel gave to her son Maeglin.

Question: What did the blades Narsil and Angrist have in common?

[gate7ole]

They were both created by the famous drarf smoth Telchar

What was the name of the tree that Turgon made in resemblance of Telperion?

[Elu Thingol]

Belthil

Who most likely found the body of Isildur?

[gate7ole]

You mean the bones?
Saruman, maybe?

[Deagol]

No I think it was Sauron, or the Nazgul. Here goes my trivia question, Name and tell me how many diffrent names Gandalf has?

[Lantarion]

Hmm, let's see..
Olórin
Gandalf
Tharkûn
Mithrandir
Grey Wanderer
Grey Pilgrim
the White
White Rider
Incánus
Láthspell
Stormcrow
Grey Fool

I think that's all of them.. :)

If it is: Q
What is the name of the waterfall by which Nienor/Niniel shuddered? (Give both the original and latter names)

[Grond]

Whoa!!!! Back up.

If anyone found Isildur's body, it would have been Saruman. from Unfinished Tales, Disaster of the Gladden Fields
But King Elessar, when he was crowned in Gondor, began the re-ordering of his realm, and one of his first tasks was the restoration of Orthanc, where he proposed to set up again the palantir recovered from Saruman. Then all the secrets of the tower were searched. Many things of worth were found, jewels and heirlooms of Eorl, filched from Edoras by the agency of Wormtongue during King Théoden's decline, and other such things, more ancient and beautiful, from mounds and tombs far and wide. Saruman in his degradation had become not a dragon but a jackdaw. At last behind a hidden door that they could not have found or opened had not Elessar had the aid of Gimli the Dwarf a steel closet was revealed. Maybe it had been intended to receive the Ring; but it was almost bare. In a casket on a high shelf two things were laid. One was a small case of gold, attached to a fine chain; it was empty, and bore no letter or token, but beyond all doubt it had once borne the Ring about Isildur's neck. Next to it lay a treasure without price, long mourned as lost for ever: the Elendilmir itself, the white star of Elvish crystal upon a fillet of mithril 31 that had descended from Silmarien to Elendil, and had been taken by him as the token of royalty in the North Kingdom. 32 Every king and the chieftains that followed them in Arnor had borne the Elendilmir down even to Elessar himself; but though it was a jewel of great beauty, made by Elven-smiths in Imladris for Valandil Isildur's son, it had not the ancientry nor potency of the one that had been lost when Isildur fled into the dark and came back no more. Saruman found the chain and box that had held the Ring, he found the Elendilmir, there can be no doubt that if the body was found, it was by him.

Gate7ole gets to ask the next question.

[gate7ole]

I thank Grond and trying to be fair, I’ll also answer Lantarion’s question.
It was once called Cabed-en-Aras, and after Niniel’s fall Cabed Naeramarth.

What significant change in the calendar happened after the War of the Ring?

[Elu Thingol]

I assume you are refering to the Shire calendar

From Appendix D of Lord of the Rings

In the New Reckoning the year began on March 25 old style, in commemoration of the fall of Sauron and the deeds of the Ring-bearers. The months retained their former names, beginning now with Viresse (April), but referred to periods beginning generally five days earlier than previously. All the months had 30 days. There were 3 Enderi or Middle-days(of which the second was called Loende), between Yavannie(September) and Narquelie (October), that corresponded with September 23,24,25 old style. But in honour of Frodo Yavannie 30, which corresponded with former September 22, his birthday, was made a festival, and the leap-year was provided for by doubling this feast, called Cormare or Ring-day.

Am I right?

[gate7ole]

You're right. They started measuring years from the 25th of March.

[Elu Thingol]

What is the difference between the dwindling of the Dúnedain and the dwindling of the hobbits. Dwindling meaning in size and in stature.

[Elu Thingol]

Isn't anyone going to fathom a guess? This question has gone unanswered several days now.

[Niniel]

I don't really understand what you mean. Could you be more specific?

[Wonko The Sane]

The Hobbits got shorter...and the Dunedain got fewer in number.

[Ciryaher]

If I'm reading the question correctly, the hobbits weren't diminishing in size...they were getting bigger until hundreds or thousands of years later they re-merged with the humans (don't have my books = you don't get a quote).

As for the Dunedain, they decreased in stature because their bloodlines were mixed with that of "lesser men" which were shorter. Gregor Mendel taught us about that sort of thing :)

[Wonko The Sane]

Clean out your PM box, Cir.

[Elu Thingol]

None of these answers are correct. Keep trying;)

Posted by Niniel
I don't really understand what you mean. Could you be more specific?


Both the hobbits and the Dúnedain both went through a decrease in stature. How is the Dúnedain's decrease in stature different from that of the hobbits. I'm looking for differences in the causes of each decrease.

[gate7ole]

I didn't find anywhere the reason of the diminishing of the hobbits (in Lotr it's just referred). I must have missed a hint somewhere. So, I can only guess. They obviously can't have mixed their blood with "lesser" races, so it must be geographical. Maybe the change of their home from the lands around Anduin to Eriador.

[Elu Thingol]

Gate7ole you were partially correct on the Hobbits, but not fully. Also, the main reason for the dwindling of the Dúnedain was not because of "blood mixing". I will post the answer tomorrow if none have answered correctly.

[Elu Thingol]

And the answer is(Drum roll!)...

From Unfinished Tales: The Appendix of Numenorean Linear Measures

The dwindling of the Dúnedain was not a normal tendency, shared by peoples whose proper home was Middle-earth;but due to the loss of their ancient land far in the West, nearest of all the mortal lands to the Undying Realm.The much later dwindling of Hobbits must be due to a change in their state and way of life; they became a fugitive and secret people, driven (as Men, the Big Folk, became more and more numerous, usurping the more fertile and habitable lands) to refuge in forest or wilderness: a wandering and poor folk, forgetful of their arts, living a precarious life absorbed in the search for food, and fearful of being seen.

[Chymaera]

I think that it is still your question Elu Thingol

or try this

What is the name of Tuor's Ax?

[gate7ole]

Tuor’s axe is named Dramborleg

Where was Aldarion’s ship built?

[Lhunithiliel]

From UT, "Mariner's wife"
.....and it came therefore into Aldarion's mind that he would find timber in Middle-earth, and seek there for a haven for the repair of his ships. In his voyages down the coasts he looked with wonder on the great forests; and at the mouth of the river that the Númenóreans called Gwathir, River of Shadow, he es-tablished Vinyalondë, the New Haven
Does this count? ;)

[gate7ole]

Not exactly. Remember Aldarion was a Numenorean. So his ship should be built in Numenor, or else how would he travel to ME? Vinyalonde was only a place of recontruction of his ship.

[Manwë Súlimo]

He built his ships in Arandor in the city of Rómenna on the eastern coast of Númenor. It was here that he also created the Uinendili, or Guild of Venturers.

From what house did Erendis, Aldarions wife, descend from?

[gate7ole]

Erendis’ father Beregar was a descendant of the House of Beor.

In which of the seven rivers of Ossiriand, did Finrod first encounter Beor and his people?

[Manwë Súlimo]

He met them by the river Thalos.

Elves can recieve up to three names in their life, what are the three names called?

[gate7ole]

Oh, difficult question. It is only found in HOME. I don't know it by heart. I'll be back when I return home and find the answer.

[Nóm]

Are you looking for:
Anessi (given name)
father name
chosen name

[Manwë Súlimo]

Close, you have two of them. The father name or Essecarmë is the first name and the chosen name or Essecilmë is a name they choose for themselves later in life. But you are still missing the "middle name."

[Nóm]

You aren't looking for mother name are you?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Yup you got it. The names are, in the order that they are given since the father-name is the most important but it is given second:
1.) The mother-name, or Esse Tercenyë (name of insight) or Apacenyë (foresight)
2.) The father-name, or Essecarmë
3.) The chosen-name, or Essecilmë

[Chymaera]

How many years was the Balrog active in Moria?

[Manwë Súlimo]

My guess would be 1039 years. I got it because Durin VI died in the year III 1980 by the awakening of the balrog, and Gandalf threw the balrog from the peak of Zirakzigil on III January 25th 3019 so that would put it at 1039 years.

What is the name of the Druedain in the forest of Brethil that was a friend to Barach?

[Chymaera]

Aghan


What was the original name of Dol Guldur before Sauron's return?

[Lhunithiliel]

Amon Lanc, 'Naked Hill', because no trees grew on its peak.

What is Tari?

[Chymaera]

(good job of c&p, Lhun ;) :D)

Tricksy tricksy Lhun :p

"they are ladies of great worship, queens of the Valar." :o


Where did Eorl make his Oath to Cirion?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Eorl made his oat on the Halifirien, the western most signal beacon.

Who did Nuin, The Father of Speech, wake in the Murmenalda?

[Lhunithiliel]

Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo
Eorl made his oat on the Halifirien, the western most signal beacon.

Who did Nuin, The Father of Speech, wake in the Murmenalda?
Didn't Eorl and Cirion make their oaths at Amon Anwar, the hill of Awe, the center of Gondor, and The Resting Place of Elendil the Tall?

Tricksy tricksy Lhun
:D :D :D
Isn't TWiki to help? ;)

[Chymaera]

Halifirien and Amon Anwar are the same thing

Manwë asks tough questions:(

[Lhunithiliel]

:( I am so bad with names!
I guess I shall have to read the books at least three more times just in order to start recognizing the connection between a name and a certain event!
And YES, he/she is giving us a hard time! ;)

[gate7ole]

Actually Manwe asks HOME questions.
Nuin awoke the Fathers of Men.

So, to play with his rules, another HOME q:
Who awoke the Sleeper in the Tower of the Pearl?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Hehe, well to ask the tough questions makes it more fun and stimulates the mind. But I was actually looking for their names. But I wasn't being specific, so meh. The names were Elmir and Ermon.

[Nóm]

did littleheart wake her up?

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by Nóm
did littleheart wake her up?
Right. But why is the Sleeper a 'she'?
Never mind, Nóm, it's your turn.

[Nóm]

Who was the Noldor in Gondolin with a curved sword?

[gate7ole]

Egalmoth, the leader of the Heavenly Arch.

What is Galadriel's mother name?

[Nóm]

Earwen

Which of Galadriel's brothers was loved by a mortal woman, and what was the name of that woman?

[gate7ole]

I'm sorry Nom, but I meant the mother-name of Galadriel. But I want to be fair, so I'll answer your question. It is Aegnor whom Andreth loved.

So, I repeat my question: What is the mother-name of Galadriel?

[Manwë Súlimo]

The mother-name was Nerwen which means "Noble Woman"

What is Erukyermë and in which land was it celebrated?

[Elu Thingol]

It belongs to a series of holidays know as the 'Three Prayers' and is celebrated in the Spring.

Under which king and in which age was the legend of Isildur's death fully composed?

[gate7ole]

The full tale of Ilildur's death was fully composed under king Elessar.

What are all the nicknames that Turin was known throughout his tragical adventures?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Túrins names were: Dagnir Glaurunga, Turambar, Adanedhel, Wildman of the Woods, Agarwaen, Dread Helm, Gorthol, Neithan, Mormegil, The Wronged, Bloodstained, Black Sword. That is all I can think of.

What are the two objects that bear the name aeglos?

[Lantarion]

1. the spear of Gil-galad
2. a small flower growing in Valinor

Q: What did the Dome of Stars keep inside itself?

[Ithrynluin]

The chief palantir?

If this is correct then:
Who is the Lieutenant of Barad Dur at the time of the War of the Ring?

[Grond]

A Black Numenorean who has forgotten his own name. He is known as the Mouth of Sauron. :)

[gate7ole]

Come on Grond, you know the procedure. You answer a question and then provide yours.

[Grond]

Okay........... I'm not sure if this has been asked.... What was the name of Eomer's sword?

[Anamatar IV]

Guthwine.

ummm....I really dont know a question that would challenge you guys:o

So I will just throw one out there:

What were the three original houses of elves?

easy, right?

[Galdor]

Vanyar, Noldor, and the Teleri.

Question: What period of time was know as the "Noontide" of the Blessed Realm?

[Manwë Súlimo]

When the Tree's were shining, the Noldor were at their peak, Morgoth was in chains, and Fëanor was a making.

Who was the first Gondorian king to mingle his blood with that of common man?

[Elu Thingol]

The twentieth king of Gondor- Valacar

Where did Gandalf find a seedling of the White Tree which flowered in the courts of Minas Anor?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Mnt. Mindolluin

Who was the third person to possess the Helm of Hador?

[Elu Thingol]

If we are counting the one who made the helm as a possessor then the third possessor would be Maedhros, however if we are not counting the creator of the helm then the third possessor would be Fingon.

Who's image is on the crest of the Helm of Hador?

[Manwë Súlimo]

an image of Glaurungs filthy head.

What did the Heraldic Device of Elwë display?

[Elu Thingol]

A "winged moon" on black, surrounded by stars

What region is know as the 'March of Maedhros'?

[Manwë Súlimo]

It was in Lothlann west of Maglor's Gap and east of the Pass of Aglon.

what is the name of the large fishing village located on the southern shores of Númenor?

[Elu Thingol]

Nindamos

How old was Eärendil when Morgoth made his attack upon Ondolindë?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Eärendil was born in 503 and Gondolin fell in 510 which would make him a whopping 7 years old.

What is the westron name of Rivendell?

[Ithrynluin]

Karningul.

What event marks the beginning of the Shire reckoning (their calendar)?

[Elu Thingol]

The Yule

In what year did the greatest merrymaking in history or record occur within the Shire?

[Ithrynluin]

Actually Elu,that is not what I meant.
Let me rephrase my question: What happened when the Hobbits started "counting their years"? (forget the calendar as such)

[Lantarion]

Wasn't it from the arrival of the first hobbits to the yet unpopulated Shire?
I won't post a question, because I'm not sure I'm right. :)

[gate7ole]

Lantarion is I think at the right direction. Marcho and Blanco passed the Bradywine and from this moment the hobbits started measuring the years.
I guess Lantarion should ask the next question.

[Lantarion]

Allrightythen. :)

List three names, in Quenya, that contain the element 'up' (il).

[Lossengondiel]

ummm..........gee, i'm takin a stab in the dark here...but how about

Eärendil, Hyarmendacil, and Umbardacil?????????

maybe...

[Lantarion]

Haha, no I'm afraid not. THose names contain either -ndil or -dacil, meaning 'lover' and 'victor' respectively..
Kep trying! (And by the way, the 'il' in 'Ilúvatar' does not mean 'up')

[Elu Thingol]

Ilmarë, Ilmen, and Ilmarin

Am I right?

[Elu Thingol]

As Lantarion has not responded for several days now, I will post the next question. Assuming I got the answer right.

In what year did the greatest merrymaking in history or record occur within the Shire?

[Lantarion]

Ha, I don't come on the forum on Sundays (not because I go to church, but because my parents feel I need regulations), and I did not post for ONE day, not several. You really have no patience whatsoever, do you Elu! :) (ha, the word lelu means 'toy' in Finnish! :D)
'Anyway, I don't know the answer to that question off the top of my head, so I'll go ahead and guess: the year of the end of the War of the Ring?

[Wonko The Sane]

Year 3019, or Shire Reckoning 1419.
The end of the war!

Or the year that Sam's Lorien tree blossomed...so 3020 or 1420 SR. They called it "The Year of Great Plenty" soo maybe...

[gate7ole]

I will guess a different date:
3001, the farewell party of Bilbo.

[Elu Thingol]

Out of all those guesses you got one right Wonko
It was 1420

your question

[Wonko The Sane]

Yay! For the first time in SOO long!!

:)

My turn:

What color slime did Shelob excrete when stabbed?

[Fimbrethil]

green yellow slime!

Whose leg did the Old troll bone from its owner?

[Anira the Elf]

can i cut in with a very easy question???

Who is the new queen of Lorien??? (hint hint):D ;)



ug!! i dunno the answer. i haven't read the books in almost a year. (wow, that long...)

[Lantarion]

Er, nope ya can't Anira! At least attempt to answer Fimbrethil's one before posting your own question. Manners, people.. ;)
Anyway, Fim: Tom's uncle, wasn't it? :) I love that ditty..

PS: Anira, what do you mean the 'New queen of Lothlórien'? I don't think anybody lived in Lothlórien after it was deserted, at least it isn't stated anywhere. :confused:

[Ecthelion]

I think she was reffering to herself.

[Wonko The Sane]

The answer, according to Anira, is of course, Anira the Elf.

Lanty, please continue to go and post your new trivia question. :)

[Finrod]

is Bilbo's age in Yen?

[Ithrynluin]

Sorry but what does "Yen" mean?

[Finrod]

yen is an elvish year(145 real years)

[Finrod]

what is the name for the elves that have seen the light?
I hope no one cares if I ask a question

[Ithrynluin]

Thank you on the yen thing!

And no I don't care if you ask a question, since we always have to wait for that slow poke Lanty to post! Serves him right!:mad: :p

The Elves that have seen the Light are called the Calaquendi.

My question: Name ALL the known Maiar!:eek:

[gate7ole]

Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, Pallando, Alatar
Sauron, Gothmog
Eonwe, Osse, Uinen, Melian
Tilion, Airen

I don't remember any others. Since my answer is probably incomplete, I won't give another question until all Maiar are found.

[Anduril]

Gandalf
Saruman
Radagast
Alatar
Pallando

Am I ok?

[Ithrynluin]

gate7,there are 2 more Maiar. And I'm not giving any hints! HA!:D

[gate7ole]

Salmar!
How could I forget. But you need one more?
I hope you don't want any other Balrog, (e.g. of Moria or the one that Glorfindel killed), since we don't know their names and you ask for names here.

[Anduril]

Ilmare?

[Ithrynluin]

Excellent! Ilmarë and Salmar are the ones I was asking for!

But who gets to ask a new question since you both contributed to the right answer?:confused:

[Anduril]

gate7ole...

Please, he was the first...I only completed the main idea...

[Manwë Súlimo]

Ossë, Uinen, Melian, Arien, Tilion, Gorthaur, Gothmog, Olorin, Curumo, Aiwendil, Alatar, Pallando Eonwë, Ilmarë, and I guess Ungoliant could be considered one since it said she took the form of a giant spider and only Ainur can do that.

and since I also don't know if that is what you want I shall also refrain from posting a question till I get confirmation.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Oh, people answered whilst I was typing, heh.

[Ithrynluin]

Oh, people answered whilst I was typing, heh.

We established the correct answer at 2:34 (my time). You posted at 4:09....How long have you been typing??? :D :p

and I guess Ungoliant could be considered one since it said she took the form of a giant spider and only Ainur can do that.
I don't think we can safely say that Ungoliant is a Maia...what if she was something else (a Vala, or some sort of spirit...)? I only wanted those Maiar that are definitely counted among the Maiar and that had names.

You also forgot Salmar BTW...
:rolleyes:

[Manwë Súlimo]

Well when I checked the thread nobody had posted so I did. But I don't know what is up with the times. But anywho... enough with that.

[gate7ole]

Under which king is it believed that the first shadow was cast on Numenor?

[Ceorl]

Tar-Ciryatan, the ship-builder.

What was Galadriel's Father-name?(birthname)

[Lantarion]

Altariel/Alatáriel, Artanis or Nerwen.
If so: When was Gondor's power extended to the Sea of Rhûn?

[gate7ole]

I think that Gondor captured the territories near the sea of Rhun two times. The first by Turambar in 550 and the other by Romendacil II in 1248. Is it the answer you were looking for?

If yes then: Which characteristic about Romendacil's political career is unique in the history of Gondor?

[Elu Thingol]

Romendacil worked to establish ties with the Northmen, the ancestors of the Rohirrim. He even sent his son Valacar to live among them, eventually causing the great strife.

If yes then: For what reason was there no beacon built upon Amon Anwar, otherwise known as Halifirien, during the great days of Gondor?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Elendils Tomb was there.

Where do the Undeeps of the Anduin reside?

[Elu Thingol]

Your statment is correct, but your answer is not. Keep trying!

[Lantarion]

I remember that a great pact between Gondor and Rohan was made there, but that can't be linked to why a beacon couldn't be shone there..
Hmm hmm.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Quote from UT:
In the great days of Gondor no beacon was built on the Hill while the palantiri still maintained communication between Osgiliath and the three towers of the realm without need of messages or signals. ok there, THAT is why no signal beacon was built there.

My previous question stands.

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo
Elendils Tomb was there.

Where do the Undeeps of the Anduin reside?

The one at the Fields of Celebrant. The other at the Wold.

Why did Thrain II leave the Ered Luin and tried to reach Moria but was caught? (I want the true/deep reasons for his action)

[Nóm]

Because he had a ring of power that made him want to seek treasure?

[gate7ole]

You’re right. On the contrary Thorin, his son, having no ring to urge him, stayed behind.

[Dáin Ironfoot I]

OK, I have a question. What was the color of Legolas' hair in LotR? (the book, not the film)

[Mablung]

I don't believe it ever actually specifically states the hair color of Legolas' himself.

[Dáin Ironfoot I]

Right! I was waiting for someone to say blonde so I could tell them they were wrong:D . O well. OK Next question: Who was the mother of Morwen?

[Manwë Súlimo]

I don't know. Does it ever say anywhere who the mother of Morwen is? For if it has I have yet to find it.

[gate7ole]

Morwen's father was Baragund.

Who was the teacher of Hamfast Gamgee (Sam's father)?

[Manwë Súlimo]

The question was for Morwen's mother. Did you actually mean father?

[gate7ole]

Oops, you're right. I too don't know the mother

[Lantarion]

OMG, I don't know either! Is this a HoME question? Because I don't have volumes like the PoME, so I wouldn't know..

[gate7ole]

Since the previous question is not clarified by Dáin Ironfoot I, I'll proceed with a new one (and fairly easy).

Which of the three Edain Houses had taller men and women than the others?

[Niniel]

I don't know that! Does someone have the answer/ a hint?

[Eriol]

Isn't it said somewhere that Túrin 'had not the height of the men of his house' (in comparison with Tuor, who was supposedly very tall?)? So, I think it is the House of Hador...

[Ithrynluin]

Hmmmm... I always thought that Túrin was one of the tallest, if not THE tallest man.

Anyway, I think your answer is correct Eriol, so proceed with a new question.

[gate7ole]

Originally posted by Eriol
Isn't it said somewhere that Túrin 'had not the height of the men of his house' (in comparison with Tuor, who was supposedly very tall?)? So, I think it is the House of Hador...

Yes, you're correct. Proceed with next question.

[Anamatar IV]

Originally posted by ithrynluin
Hmmmm... I always thought that Túrin was one of the tallest, if not THE tallest man.

Anyway, I think your answer is correct Eriol, so proceed with a new question.

Maybe youre thinking of Húrin the tall?:confused:

[Galdor]

Maybe youre thinking ofHúrin the tall?:confused: [/B]

um, Hurin was never called "the Tall." are you sure your not thinking of Galdor the Tall?

[gate7ole]

Galdor is right.
The three persons that had the title of "the Tall" were Maedhros, Elendil and Galdor.

[Anamatar IV]

I was sure that in RotK they refered to Hurin the warden of the keys as the tall.:confused: ah well.

[Mablung]

No he was tall but not THE Tall