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gate7ole
12-12-2002, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by Anamatar IV
I was sure that in RotK they refered to Hurin the warden of the keys as the tall.:confused: ah well.
Oh that Húrin! The Dunadan of the War of the Ring. About him you're right, he is called "Tall".
Eriol
12-12-2002, 04:39 PM
I tried to access the forum in the laast five hours, but couldn't. It was probably as astonished as I am for getting one right ;) .
Ok, who opened up the belly of Carcharoth?
Ithrynluin
12-12-2002, 06:55 PM
I believe it was Thingol. If this is correct then my question is:
Where did Pippin look into the palantír (what is that place called)?
Lantarion
12-12-2002, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by JRR Tolkien
"I'll never get it back without waking him," he thought, "not till I'm a bit calmer. So I may as well have a look first. Not just here though!" He stole away, and sat down on a green hillock not far from his bed. The moon looked in over the edge of the dell.
Q: Who was the first Elf to die in Aman?
Eriol
12-12-2002, 07:04 PM
sorry, incorrect (I have most of that scene - and of the B&L story - in my mind, so I could be wrong, please someone check in the book!)
P.S. Lantarion is a quick one, he answered the question as I was typing!
Manwë Súlimo
12-12-2002, 07:07 PM
The place was actually CALLED Dol Baran. and I believe Miriel was the first to die.
What is the true name of Meriadoc Brandybuck?
Eriol
12-12-2002, 07:11 PM
What a mess (check the time of the last four posts) :D
I am still waiting for the name of the guy who opened up Carcharoth's belly...
Manwë Súlimo
12-12-2002, 07:17 PM
Then Mablung took a knife and ripped up the belly of the Wolf; there, now to get back on track:
OK, what is the true name of Meriadoc Brandybuck?
Lantarion
12-12-2002, 07:18 PM
Kalimac, I believe.
I couldn't find the actual name of the 'mound'.. Oh well. :) You were sort of correct with my question though; it's true she 'died' in the sense that her spirit left her body for the Halls of Mandos, but who was the first to be slain would be a more precise question. :) But your answer was correct, in light of the actual question.
Q: Who was the bravest of those Men who accompanied Túrin when he battled Glaurung?
Manwë Súlimo
12-12-2002, 07:50 PM
Kalimac Brandagamba, and the first to be slain is Finwë by Melkor at Formenos.
I would say Dorlath but he chickend out in the end so my answer is Hunthor kinsman of Brandir.
Who are the parents of Vinitharya?
Ithrynluin
12-12-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Eriol
I am still waiting for the name of the guy who opened up Carcharoth's belly...
It was Mablung.:D
The parents of Vinitharya (Eldacar) are Valacar (King of Gondor) and Vidumavi.
Which palantir had special properties?
gate7ole
12-12-2002, 10:12 PM
The palantir at Elostirion at the Tower hills, which coud only watch far to the West.
And where was the Master of ALL the seeing-stones put? (tricky)
Galdor
12-12-2002, 10:34 PM
I know it was in Amon, but I'm not sure of the exact place though.
gate7ole
12-12-2002, 10:51 PM
You are reffering to the stone of Amon-Sul. But this is not the correct answer!
Wonko The Sane
12-12-2002, 10:52 PM
Didn't Sauron dude have it?
Manwë Súlimo
12-12-2002, 11:17 PM
It is in Tol Eressëa is it not? Since I am only pretty sure and not 100% on it I wont post a question till I get conformation
Mablung
12-12-2002, 11:19 PM
I think it was the one at Elostirion.
Manwë Súlimo
12-12-2002, 11:30 PM
Ah yes I've found it the Master-stone is held in the Tower of Avallónë on Tol Eressëa.
Where did Caranthir have his capitol up until the Dagor Bragollach?
Mablung
12-12-2002, 11:33 PM
Thargelion?
Manwë Súlimo
12-12-2002, 11:35 PM
Close, it is around that region.
Wonko The Sane
12-12-2002, 11:36 PM
Cair something or other...
Mablung
12-12-2002, 11:51 PM
Dor Caranthir then?
Galdor
12-13-2002, 12:03 AM
You are reffering to the stone of Amon-Sul. But this is not the correct answer!
No I'm not, I'm talking about Amon Arda, the blessed realm. And Tol Eressëa was in Amon Arda, so I was right.
And as to Manwë's question.... I don't know.
Manwë Súlimo
12-13-2002, 12:10 AM
You probably meant Aman not Amon
Manwë Súlimo
12-13-2002, 01:05 AM
Dor Caranthir then? nope it is not Dor Caranthir. It will probably give it away but think Mt. Rerir
Eriol
12-13-2002, 05:55 PM
I think it was at Lake Helevorn
If correct: what was the elvish name of the place where Beren and Lúthien 'lived happily ever after' (until they died)?
Manwë Súlimo
12-13-2002, 10:04 PM
Dor Firn-I-Fuinar, Land of the Dead That Live.
Who Prophesized the coming of Aragorn?
Dúnadan
12-14-2002, 04:50 AM
Malbeth the Seer.
(A friend of mine's e-mail address is the_malbeth, that's how I know.. muahaha...)
(This's my first post, btw. <Ron)
I'm pretty sure I'm correct, at least, and if so:
What surname was given to Miriel, wife of Finwë?
Manwë Súlimo
12-14-2002, 05:03 AM
Serindë, 'Needlewoman'
What region is known as 'The Great Echo'?
Lammoth.
Why didn't Orodreth take part in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad?
Manwë Súlimo
12-14-2002, 05:58 AM
Yet the oath of Fëanor and the evil deeds that it had wrought did injury to the design of Maedhros, and he had less aid than should have been. Orodreth would not march forth at the word of any son of Fëanor, because of the deeds of Celegorm and Curufin; and the Elves of Nargothrond trusted still to defend their hidden stronghold by secrecy and stealth. That is why.
What is the name of the place of dwelling of Lorien, Irmo?
Ithrynluin
12-14-2002, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo
What is the name of the place of dwelling of Lorien, Irmo?
Is that a trick question? Lórien's dwelling were the gardens of Lórien.:rolleyes:
Which is the second longest river in ME (Beleriand included)?
Manwë Súlimo
12-14-2002, 06:10 AM
No it is not the gardens or Lorien, I meant his houses name.
and I think it is and it is either Gelion of Anduin, but I am leaning on Gelion, am I wrong?
Ithrynluin
12-14-2002, 06:39 AM
It is neither Gelion nor Anduin.
But your question still stands.:)
Rangerdave
12-14-2002, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo
No it is not the gardens or Lorien, I meant his houses name.
and I think it is and it is either Gelion of Anduin, but I am leaning on Gelion, am I wrong?
I don't have any of the histories in front of me at the moment, but nowhere in the Silmarillion is a house of Irmo named.
The Fëanturi, masters of spirits, are brethren, and they are called most often Mandos and Lórien. Yet these are rightly the names of the places of their dwelling, and their true names are Námo and Irmo.
Námo the elder dwells in Mandos, which is westward in Valinor. He is the keeper of the Houses of the Dead, and the summoner of the spirits of the slain. He forgets nothing; and he knows all things that shall be, save only those that lie still in the freedom of Ilúvatar. He is the Doomsman of the Valar; but he pronounces his dooms and his Judgements only at the bidding of Manwë. Vairë the Weaver is his spouse, who weaves all things that have ever been in Time into her storied webs, and the halls of Mandos that ever widen as the ages pass are clothed with them.
Irmo the younger is the master of visions and dreams. In Lórien are his gardens in the land of the Valar, and they are the fairest of all places in the world, filled with many spirits. Estë the gentle, healer of hurts and of weariness, is his spouse. Grey is her raiment; and rest is her gift. She walks not by day, but sleeps upon an island in the tree-shadowed lake of Lórellin. From the fountains of Irmo and Estë all those who dwell in Valinor draw refreshment; and often the Valar come themselves to Lórien and there find repose and easing of the burden of Arda.
Hopefuly someone with the histories will check for you
RD
Manwë Súlimo
12-14-2002, 07:13 AM
The answer is in the Book of Lost Tales Volume 1
gate7ole
12-14-2002, 03:21 PM
Lorien dwelt at Murmuran (funny name)
And the second biggest river is the River Running.
HOME question (but interesting):
At the early stages of LOTR, what race was Aragorn and –most important- who was supposed to be?
Lantarion
12-14-2002, 07:03 PM
If you don't mind, could you say which volume of the HoME? I only have 5, 11 and 12, but still! ;)
gate7ole
12-14-2002, 09:11 PM
It is either at HOME 6 or 7. Most probably the first. Those two books (with the a part of the 8th), cover the story of LOTR from the first ideas to the end.
Ithrynluin
12-14-2002, 09:28 PM
Aragorn is a Hobbit called Trotter. He wore wooden clogs.:p
Good god, those earlier drafts of LOTR sucked!
Which ruler of Anadúne preferred dancing and music to ruling?
gate7ole
12-14-2002, 10:05 PM
Ithrynluin, you're correct, but you answered only the first part. The second part is who was supposed to be? I mean this hobbit Trotter was someone important?
Ithrynluin
12-14-2002, 11:21 PM
He was a Ranger (a wild hobbit). Other than that I'm afraid I have forgotten. Are you hinting at his heritage/kinship (a descendant of Kings maybe)?
gate7ole
12-15-2002, 02:12 PM
Well, I remember that Trotter was a relative of Bilbo, the only hobbit in the history of Shire that left his home for adventures. They considered him dead (or lost) and none had seen him for ages. Frodo had seen him at his youth and Trotter's face reminded him of something. I think that his identity would be revealed at Rivendell and Trotter would eventually become the ruler of Shire, but Tolkien abandoned it
Let's continue with Ithrynluin's question
Manwë Súlimo
12-16-2002, 06:48 PM
From UT:XVI Tar-Vanimeldë
She was the third Ruling Queen; she was born in the year 227 and ruled for 111 years until her death in 2637. She gave little heed to ruling, loving rather music and dance ; and the power was wielded by her husband Herucalmo, younger than she, but a descendant of the same degree from Tar-Atanamir. Herucalmo took the sceptre upon his wife's death, calling himself Tar-Anducal, and withholding the rule from his son Alcarin; yet some do not reckon him in the Line of Kings as seventeenth, and pass to Alcarin. Tar-Anducal was born in the year 2286 and he died in 2657.
What is the greatest river in Andor?
gate7ole
12-16-2002, 09:59 PM
Siril.
Who was the King's Writer at the beginning of the Fouth Age?
Manwë Súlimo
12-16-2002, 10:02 PM
Findegil, it was he who finished the Red Book of Westmarch.
How old was Dwalin when he died?
Manwë Súlimo
12-19-2002, 09:45 PM
Ok looks like you could all use some help. The approximate date of his death is in IV 91, as in year 91 of the Fourth Age.
gate7ole
12-20-2002, 12:36 AM
340 years old. Too old even for a dwarf.
Which are the two only exceptions to the rule that in "there is hardly any reference in Lotr to things that do not actually exist on it own plane (of secondary or sub-creational reality)", stated by professor himself?
gate7ole
12-23-2002, 11:53 PM
I'll give clues:
The first one has to do with cats
The second with 2 out of 5
Turgon
12-24-2002, 12:04 AM
The Cats of Queen Beruthiel and the Blue wizards, though both are addressed in Unifinished Tales.
Question: How many cats did Queen Beruthiel own and who was her King?
Another two-parter Gate7ole...;)
Manwë Súlimo
12-24-2002, 12:15 AM
she had 10 cats and Tarannon Falastur was her king.
Who are the four children of Halmir?
Turgon
12-24-2002, 01:11 AM
That was a trickssy question Manwë, my head is still hurting from the research...
Haldir, Hundar, Hareth and Hiril?
Manwë Súlimo
12-24-2002, 01:24 AM
yup you got them, and it wouldn't be fun if it wasn't hard now would it?:D
Turgon
12-24-2002, 01:44 AM
hehe! that's right Manwë but the problem is finding a question just as trickssy...
mmm...
Question: What the name given to the Drúedain in the language of the Rohirrim?
Manwë Súlimo
12-24-2002, 04:38 AM
Heh, I said woses first but then I found Róg, so it was kinda tricksy.
here's another tricksy genealogy question, who are the 6 children of Finwë?
Manwë Súlimo
12-26-2002, 10:43 PM
Ok, looks like some hints are in order. The first hint is that the answer is in a HoME (History of Middle-Earth) book.
Manwë Súlimo
12-28-2002, 11:28 PM
Second hint. It is in one of the books pertaining to "The Later Silmarillion"
Manwë Súlimo
12-29-2002, 09:59 AM
Third hint: it is a foot note
Ponte
12-30-2002, 05:14 PM
The six childrens of Finwë were Fëanor, Findis, Nolofinwë, Faniel, Arafinwë and Írimë.
Question: Wich two kindreds of the elves refused the summons to go to Valinor and became the Avari? (With this I mean the elves that didn't began the great march, not the Silvan, Sindar or Nandor elves)
Chymaera
01-01-2003, 09:48 AM
The Kindreds of Morwë and Nurwë;)
[Morgoth's Ring: The Annals of Aman, Section 3]
What is the name of King Thranduil's Butler?
Lantarion
01-01-2003, 06:19 PM
Can this be found from books other than the HoME? Because I think that there are more of those individuals (including me, thank you very much) who do not own the entirety of HoME than those who do. ;)
Chymaera
01-02-2003, 10:18 AM
The answer is in 'The Hobbit'.:p ;) :D
But that makes it much easier to find the answer:(
Lantarion
01-02-2003, 05:54 PM
:rolleyes: :D
Well I certainly can't find it!
Eriol
01-02-2003, 06:02 PM
It is probably James or Alfred, and he is definitely the murderer... ;)
Manwë Súlimo
01-03-2003, 07:30 AM
"Where's old Galion, the butler?"
The butlers name is Galion.
What is the name of Elendil's uncle?
Lantarion
01-03-2003, 05:00 PM
Elentir, brother of Amandil; I think.
If so, then:
Q: Name the only winyard that is mentioned, that lies east of Erebor.
Manwë Súlimo
01-04-2003, 12:05 AM
I would have to say Dorwinion. Since I don't know I will refrain from posting a question till I get conformation of the answer.
Chymaera
01-04-2003, 06:54 AM
Very good Manwë, Dorwinion is correct carry on;)
Manwë Súlimo
01-04-2003, 06:56 AM
Okie dokie, where is the only place Tolkien mentions Ogres?
Manwë Súlimo
01-05-2003, 12:12 PM
Hint time. It is in one of the War of the Ring era books.
Manwë Súlimo
01-07-2003, 09:15 AM
Hint numba two: It is in the Hobbit
The Hobbit: Riddles In The Dark (pg 74)
Poor Bilbo sat there in the dark thinking of all the horrible names of all the giants and ogres he had ever heard of in tales....
Manwë Súlimo
01-07-2003, 11:54 PM
Good. Ok, you're up Pip.
OK, I hope this hasn't been posted before, but I can't be bothered reading the whole thread....
What was the name of Wormtongue's father?
Manwë Súlimo
01-08-2003, 05:13 AM
Gálmód.
What is the bough of return made of?
Was it a branch from the tree, Oiolaire?
Manwë Súlimo
01-08-2003, 05:17 AM
Yup you're up.
OK
Who was the Bee of Azure ?
Lantarion
01-08-2003, 01:02 PM
I don't have my books right here, but wasn't it a character in one of Bilbo's poems?
Iluisa Olórin
01-10-2003, 06:51 AM
Nielluin (Sirius) was the Bee of Azure, burning at the foot of Tulkas' son, seen in autumn or winter.
Iluisa Olórin
01-10-2003, 07:12 AM
What is the true meaning of Death?
Chymaera
01-11-2003, 01:32 PM
It is the one true gift that shows that Ilúvatar loves us.;) :D :confused:
Lantarion
01-11-2003, 06:37 PM
Well, Lhutton, that's a bit vague.
For Men it is a great Gift, althuogh they feared it because they could not know what it was until they got there, and could not hence control it, because they go to a 'better place' set up especially by Eru for Men, good and evil.
For Elves, if indeed they were slain (Fëanor, Finwë) or were otherwise worsted (Lúthien, Serindë), it meant going to the Halls of Mandos and living there until the Dagor Dagorath.
For Dwarves.. Who can say? But I'd say that because they were indeed created by a Vala and brought into being by Ilúvatar himself, they probably have a "fate apart from the Children of Ilúvatar", as is said in the Silmarillion.
Thorough enough? :D
Iluisa Olórin
01-11-2003, 09:01 PM
Excellent. "... Men are not bound to the world, but leave it, none know where; and this is the true meaning of Death (for the death of the Elves is a 'seeming death', The Silmarillion p. 42): the final and inescapable exit." J R R Tolkien, The Book of Lost Tales 1, New York: The Ballantine Publishing Group, 1992, p. 95.
You're up!
Manwë Súlimo
01-16-2003, 08:37 PM
Well since it has been 5 days since the last post I'll post a new question.
What is the head Nazgûls name?
Galdor
01-16-2003, 08:51 PM
Morgul.
Who was the first wife of Finwe?
Manwë Súlimo
01-17-2003, 04:34 AM
Míriel
Who were the three children of Brego?
Baldor (lost in the Paths of The Dead)
Aldor (Rohan's longest reigning king)
Eofor (lived in the House of Eomer)
Manwë Súlimo
01-17-2003, 11:57 PM
Good your up
What was the name of the ship built by Tar-Aidarion for his dwelling-place, on which was the Guildhouse of the Venturers?
Eriol
01-18-2003, 04:34 PM
Eämbar
Who built the Argonath?
Lantarion
01-18-2003, 05:43 PM
Ooh, it was a king of Gondor... Rómendacil, I think, but I'm not sure whether it was I or II. But I have to choose one, so.. Rómendacil II.
If that's correct: How many floors did the Bridge-house have?
Niniel
01-27-2003, 10:58 PM
Two.
What is the Quenya word for lembas?
gate7ole
01-28-2003, 01:37 AM
Coimas.
How many people did Cirion send to ask for Eorl's help, at the battle of Celebrant?
Anamatar IV
01-28-2003, 02:23 AM
I know this! I just read it:D
6 riders in pairs.
In what language did Eorl take his oath?
Lasgalen
01-29-2003, 07:50 AM
Eorl made his oath in the tongue of the Eotheod.
-Lasgalen
Lasgalen
02-02-2003, 09:13 AM
I believe I got the answer right. If not, I will withdraw my question.
What where the names of the horses Eomer lent to Aragorn and Legolas?
-Lasgalen
Hasufel and Arod
OK, why were the decendants of Durin I The Deathless also named Durin?
Manwë Súlimo
02-02-2003, 11:00 AM
It is held that Durins spirit came back through them.
Who is Olwë's daughter's Grand-daughter's daughter's paternal grandfather's mother's father? Muahahahahahahaha!!!!
Is it Turgon?
Olwë's daughter: Eärwen
Eärwen's grand-daughter: Celebrian
Celebrian's daughter: Arwen
Arwen's paternal grandfather: Eärendil
Eärendil's mother: Idril
Idril's father: Turgon
Manwë Súlimo
02-02-2003, 11:18 AM
Yup, it's Turgon.
lol- you thought that would stump everyone for days, didnt u?;) ....15mins later.....
OK, Hmm, I need to find a nice question. Hopefully it won't be a repeat....
Looking......looking...hunting.....hunting....
Nnnnooooooo! my main source of questions- EoA has died again, I'll have to do it the hard way....
Question: Who is the Grandfather of Celeborn?
Anamatar IV
02-03-2003, 09:35 PM
hmm...weren't there "two versions"? But I think I would say Thingol.
Manwë Súlimo
02-03-2003, 09:39 PM
Elmo
Who is Tar-Amandil's grandson? (son of the first son in alphabetical order)
Tar-Meneldur
Question: What is the dwarvish name for Belegost.
Tuilin
02-04-2003, 02:55 PM
Is it Gabilgathol??:D
Tuilin
02-04-2003, 06:30 PM
yay me..;)
eh..sorry---
well a question---
hmm:rolleyes:
aaw
ok ill get one just wait...
Tuilin
02-04-2003, 06:50 PM
ok..sorry if this has ben taken already...
my brain is dead today---:rolleyes:
it was the best i could find in 10 seconds
What was the name of tolkiens wife..?
Niniel
02-04-2003, 06:57 PM
Edith.
What are the names of Sam's brothers and sisters?
Lasgalen
02-04-2003, 07:19 PM
Hamson, Halfred, Daisy, May, Marigold
Which Hobbit was it that knocked the Goblin kings head off with a wooden club, sending it sailing a hundred yards. (Hint: He won the battle and invented the game of Golf at the same time).
-Lasgalen
Tuilin
02-04-2003, 07:23 PM
Bullroarer Took!
Eriol
02-04-2003, 07:24 PM
Bandobras Took
When did the first Steward of Gondor named Boromir live?
EDITED: That's what I call a close finish, Tuilin! Sorry, I posted a question, it took me less than a minute to write it so you must ask one. Bandobras "the Bullroarer" Took would probably be the best answer...
Tuilin
02-04-2003, 07:27 PM
Who was Bandobras "Bullroarer" Tooks big brother?
Eriol
02-04-2003, 07:30 PM
No, it's a nickname, just like Gerontius Took was "the Old Took". Bandobras and "the Bullroarer" are the same person.
Lasgalen
02-04-2003, 07:30 PM
Ferumbras II
Where did Boromir lose his horse (on his way to Council of Elrond)?
-Lasgalen
Tuilin
02-04-2003, 07:34 PM
Boromir lost his horse in the crossings at Tharbad.
Tuilin
02-04-2003, 07:36 PM
What was the haircolour of Beren?
Eriol
02-04-2003, 07:43 PM
Black
So... When did the first Steward of Gondor named Boromir live?
Manwë Súlimo
02-04-2003, 08:00 PM
He was the son of Denethor I and lived some 500 years before Boromir II. In his time Osgiliath was attacked.
Since Pippin_Took got my other question wrong I will ask it again:
Who is Tar-Amandil's grandson? (son of his first son in alphabetical order)
Lasgalen
02-04-2003, 08:59 PM
(son of his first son in alphabetical order) Are you asking for all the grandsons? I will guess Anarion and Isildur.
-Lasgalen
gate7ole
02-05-2003, 01:34 AM
No, this doesn't refer to Elendil father, since it has the prefix Tar (~king).
This is the third king of Numenor.
His grandson was Tar-Menedlur.
What strange decision did Tar-Amandil's father take?
Ecthelion
02-05-2003, 02:00 AM
He refused to take kingship and passed the kingship directy to Tar-Amandil.
What are the four title/nicknames of Radagast?
Manwë Súlimo
02-05-2003, 02:03 AM
Ok everyone the answer is not Tar-Meneldur. Tar-Meneldur is his grandson but not the one I'm looking for. I'm looking for another one. He is royal but not of the right line to be king.
Ecthelion
02-05-2003, 02:12 AM
Does that mean the grandson doesnt have Tar- in his name?
Manwë Súlimo
02-05-2003, 02:13 AM
Yes, Tar is not in his name
Tuilin
02-05-2003, 05:08 PM
Isildur...?
Manwë Súlimo
02-05-2003, 07:28 PM
Nope, not Isildur. It starts with a "C".
Tuilin
02-05-2003, 07:32 PM
Caliondo!!:D :rolleyes:
Manwë Súlimo
02-05-2003, 07:55 PM
Yes, it's Caliondo
Ecthelion
02-07-2003, 12:53 AM
Tuilin.....................you gonna post a question?
Ecthelion
02-08-2003, 03:51 AM
Can we skip him at someone else go?
Tuilin
02-08-2003, 11:12 AM
SORRY:(
i forgot:D
i will go now...
by the way
im not him..im she!
just wait a sec
Anamatar IV
02-09-2003, 06:05 PM
Mind if I post one?
What were the first three gates of Gondolin made of?
Tuilin
02-09-2003, 06:57 PM
Moo me!!
damn...i forgot:(
sorry...
Tuilin
02-09-2003, 07:49 PM
The gate of wood, the gate of stone and the gate of bronce
im right.....right?
so im up again----dammit....i hate making questions
just a sec....:p
no....
ok..
who was the warden of the seventh gate of gondolin??
Ecthelion
02-09-2003, 08:44 PM
Hey that was my question, oh well, it's Ecthelion.
Q: What was the number Steward of Gondor was Ecthelion I?
(If that doesn't make sense just post saying that you don't)
Manwë Súlimo
02-09-2003, 09:10 PM
18th
What is Tar-Ardamin's name in Andunaic?
Ecthelion
02-09-2003, 09:44 PM
Thats incorrect Manwe
Ithrynluin
02-09-2003, 11:52 PM
He was the 17th steward.
What was Ursa Major called in Middle Earth mythology?
Well there are 3 that I know of
Sickle of the Valar
Durin's Crown
The Burning Briar
Tuilin
02-10-2003, 08:21 PM
It was your question Ecthelion..?
I didnt know...
Sorry!
Ecthelion
02-10-2003, 10:57 PM
Thats ok, I actually posted it in the LOTR Trivia one but forgot you could only use things from LOTR so I was going to save it for this one, oh well.
Ithrynluin
02-11-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Pippin_Took
Well there are 3 that I know of
Sickle of the Valar
Durin's Crown
The Burning Briar
That's okay I meant Valacirca in particular but your answer is more than sufficient.
To where did Gwindor lead Turin?
Lantarion
02-12-2003, 11:14 AM
Wasn't it to Aelin Uial first? But anyway, it was to Nargothrond.
Q: Who was the leader of the Éothéod in the time of King Ondoher?
Hmmm, Ondoher was King of Gondor from 1936 till 1944 of the 3rd Age. But of the Éothéod, I know little.
My guess: Frumgar
Since his son, Fram, slayed Scatha in about the year 2000
Tuilin
02-12-2003, 04:21 PM
I think so too....
Soo...I think your up Pippin...=D
I'll wait for Lantarion to confirm it.
I'm only 20% sure.
Lantarion
02-13-2003, 12:55 PM
Wow, 20% isn't much..
..and I'm afraid it isn't correct. :(
But keep trying!
I'll give you a hint if you don't find it next.
Hmm, after some research I discovered that Frumgar was born in 1940, so it wouldn't have been him.
I couldn't find Frumgar's father, but I did find his grandfather.
So my next guess would be Forthwini
Lantarion
02-13-2003, 01:08 PM
Correct! :D
Ask away.
Who were the only peoples who could withstand the dragon-flame of Glaurung during the Battle of Unnumbered Tears?
Tuilin
02-13-2003, 06:32 PM
The Dwarves of Belegost
Tuilin
02-15-2003, 03:08 PM
Who was the first of the Uruloki?
Glaurung :)
What occurs on the 21st of September in the Gondor calendar?
Manwë Súlimo
02-15-2003, 09:49 PM
The Harvest-feast day.
What is the Inner Fence of Mordor called?
Ithrynluin
02-15-2003, 09:57 PM
Morgai?
What was the name of the greatest ship of Aldarion? I'm looking for 2 names, the true name, and the "unofficial" one.
Manwë Súlimo
02-15-2003, 10:01 PM
Turuphanto, The Wooden Whale
What castle lay in the northern Ephel Duath?
Ithrynluin
02-15-2003, 10:09 PM
You only gave me one name, Manwë (though in two different tongues). What was the other (true) name of this ship?
Re: your question...Durthang?
Manwë Súlimo
02-15-2003, 10:22 PM
oh heh sorry my bad, the other name is Hirilonde
and yes Durthang is correct
Ithrynluin
02-15-2003, 10:36 PM
What gift did Aldarion receive from the Eldar, for his wedding with Erendis?
Manwë Súlimo
02-16-2003, 03:16 AM
To Aldarion they gave a sapling tree, whose bark was snow-white, and its stem straight, strong and pliant as it were of steel; but it was not yet in leaf So, the White Tree of Númenor
What did the elves call the men not under the rule of the Dunedain or Sauron?
BlackCaptain
02-16-2003, 03:38 AM
Edain?
Manwë Súlimo
02-16-2003, 04:29 AM
nope
Manwë Súlimo
02-17-2003, 09:06 AM
Ok some hints: It's in UT and is 6 words long.
Manwë Súlimo
02-20-2003, 04:56 AM
ok another hint, it has the word "north" in it.
Niniel
02-20-2003, 06:43 PM
The Free Men of the North.
What was the Quenya name of Radagast?
Eriol
02-20-2003, 06:50 PM
Aiwendil, isn't it?
Anyway... what is the word used by hobbits to describe someone who is having his/her birthday?
Lantarion
02-28-2003, 09:50 PM
I have no idea! :eek:
And it seems that as this thread has been idle for over a whole week, you must either give us a hint or an answer.
Goldberry
03-01-2003, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by Lantarion
And it seems that as this thread has been idle for over a whole week, you must either give us a hint or an answer.
I second the motion!:D
I third it,
I don't even think such a title exists.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Niniel
03-01-2003, 08:19 PM
Ah, there it is: ribadyan!
What was the date The Fellowship of the Ring was published in England?
Elendil3119
03-01-2003, 10:19 PM
1954. When was it published in America?
Lantarion
03-06-2003, 11:58 AM
[Not related to the previous question]: Níniel, where did you find the answer for that?! In "The Peoples of Middle-earth", or another HoME?
Eriol
03-06-2003, 01:03 PM
It is on the Letters. It could be rendered as byrding as well.
Tuilin
03-06-2003, 03:17 PM
Was it published in 1954?
Elendil3119
03-06-2003, 05:34 PM
Yes, it was published on October 22, 1954. Tuilin, you're up.:D
Tuilin
03-06-2003, 05:55 PM
Who was the older sister of Turin Turambars wife?
Ithrynluin
03-06-2003, 06:02 PM
Lalaith (laughter).
Who did Tolkien picture as the sister of Melko and Manwë initially?
Tuilin
03-06-2003, 06:05 PM
Was it Nienna:confused: ???
Ithrynluin
03-06-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Tuilin
Was it Nienna:confused: ???
No it wasn't.
The one that Tolkien picked, is not a very logical choice, at least not to me.
Elendil3119
03-06-2003, 10:46 PM
Was it Vána?
Ithrynluin
03-06-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Elendil3119
Was it Vána?
No it wasn't.
Lasgalen
03-07-2003, 07:21 AM
Nienna was the sister of Manwe and Melko.
-Lasgalen
Tuilin
03-07-2003, 05:01 PM
I said that too but its not the right answer...well...she is their sister but the question was slightly different...
Ithrynluin
03-07-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Lasgalen
Nienna was the sister of Manwe and Melko.
-Lasgalen
No she wasn't. Since everyone seems to be guessing, I'll give the answer.
Nessa was supposed to be the sister of Manwë and Melkor, according to Morgoth's Ring X.
Anyone ask a new question.
Tuilin
03-07-2003, 05:14 PM
I think you should ask the new question Ithrynluin...
Lasgalen
03-07-2003, 08:00 PM
Please tell me what part of Morgoth's Ring, ithrynluin.
Quote from Morgoths Ring page 49 of the Houghton Mifflin hardcover (The Annals of Aman):
"No lord hath Nienna the sorrowful, queen of shadow, Manwe's sister and Melkor's."
-Lasgalen
Ithrynluin
03-07-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Lasgalen
Please tell me what part of Morgoth's Ring, ithrynluin.
Quote from Morgoths Ring page 49 of the Houghton Mifflin hardcover (The Annals of Aman):
"No lord hath Nienna the sorrowful, queen of shadow, Manwe's sister and Melkor's."
-Lasgalen
Oh my, I must have misread then! I don't have the book with me, but you're obviously right! Sorry again!:o
Lasgalen
03-07-2003, 08:11 PM
Does Tuilin ask a question since he got the answer first? If not, I have one ready.
-Lasgalen
Tuilin
03-07-2003, 08:57 PM
YAY!!
I was right after all:D
okidoki
Ill take the next question...
Tuilin
03-07-2003, 09:02 PM
hm...since were into the Valar already...
Who´s wife is the sister of Orome?
Lasgalen
03-08-2003, 02:23 AM
Nessa is the sister of Orome. She is the wife of Tulkas.
Tulkas' wife is the sister of Orome.
-Lasgalen
Tuilin
03-08-2003, 10:21 AM
Yess!
Youre up Lasgalen...
Lasgalen
03-09-2003, 08:47 AM
How many years did Elros rule the Numenoreans?
-Lasgalen
Ithrynluin
03-09-2003, 10:41 AM
410 years.
Who was the King's writer (scribe) in the early 4th Age?
Manwë Súlimo
03-10-2003, 01:10 AM
Findegil
What names did Beren and Finrod use when they were disguised are Orcs?
Manwë Súlimo
03-11-2003, 09:27 AM
Hint: The answer can be found in the Lay of Leithian
christopher
03-11-2003, 02:29 PM
By the arts of Felagund their own forms and faces were changed into the likeness of Orcs.
christopher
03-11-2003, 02:31 PM
Where is Lampwright's Street, and what is it's name in Elvish?
Niniel
03-11-2003, 05:42 PM
I don't think your answer was correct christopher, since Manwe asked for their NAMES (they're not in the Sil, must be in HOME... which I don't have). Anyway, the answer to your question is: it was in Minas Tirith, and its Elvish name was Rath Celerdain. Anyone want to try and answer Manwe's question?
Ithrynluin
03-11-2003, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo
What names did Beren and Finrod use when they were disguised are Orcs?
Nereb and Dungalef?
Manwë Súlimo
03-11-2003, 08:20 PM
Yup, you got it.
Ithrynluin
03-11-2003, 08:34 PM
In one of the earlier versions of the Lord of the Rings, what was a very unusual feature of Trotter (later Strider), besides the fact that he was a Hobbit not a Man?
Tuilin
03-11-2003, 08:54 PM
Hey, I know that.
Or I knew...I have forgot it:rolleyes:
christopher
03-11-2003, 11:23 PM
Wasn't he a bad guy?
Elendil3119
03-12-2003, 06:47 PM
He wore wooden clogs, right?
Ithrynluin
03-12-2003, 07:11 PM
Right. You're up, Elendil.
Elendil3119
03-13-2003, 02:29 AM
In BoLT1, who is Eriol's uncle? (I realize that this may be way too hard, so just tell me if it is.);)
--Elendil3119--
christopher
03-14-2003, 02:53 PM
Could it perhaps be Beorn, the brother of Eriol's father Eoh
Elendil3119
03-14-2003, 06:11 PM
Very good, christopher! You're up.:)
christopher
03-15-2003, 05:48 PM
What was the name of the inn in Frogmorton that was closed by Sharkey's men?
P.S. Am I the only one from Europe here?
The Floating Log
Who was the person who gave the exact location of the Shire to the Witch-King?
christopher
03-15-2003, 08:04 PM
Grima wormtongue (though it was not a land they sought, as surely its servants perceive without tellin, or else they would bow before me (Saaruman) and call me Lord) Funny that they had to ask Saruman's footman for the exact location. Lucky for Frodo that Saruman himself didn't know it yet!
Am I correct: Grima
christopher
03-15-2003, 08:09 PM
Name the only person(s) to return form Namo's halls.
Lasgalen
03-15-2003, 08:10 PM
Luthien and Beren.
-Lasgalen
christopher
03-15-2003, 08:12 PM
Very well, ask a question!
Lasgalen
03-15-2003, 08:17 PM
Where did Feanor go when banished for drawing a sword on his brother?
-Lasgalen
christopher
03-15-2003, 08:32 PM
Together with his father he built a house somewhere, with a vault to keep the Silmarils and the Palantiri, still trying to locate where though!
Well, I'm pretty sure that I'm correct, so here's the next question;
What was the name of the first defence formation used by Isildur in the Disaster of the Gladden Fields?
And what would have been the attacking formation, had the land been flatter?
Manwë Súlimo
03-15-2003, 10:08 PM
He formed a Thangail, a shield-wall of two serried ranks that could be bent back at either end if outflanked, until at need it became a closed ring.
He would have formed a Dirnaith if the land would have been in his favor.
Who is called the Sheep-lord?
christopher
03-15-2003, 10:21 PM
You're not talking about a figure from Bored of the Rings , are you??
Manwë Súlimo
03-15-2003, 11:05 PM
No I'm not.
Tuilin
03-16-2003, 12:38 PM
No, your not the only european...
Ithrynluin
03-16-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo
Who is called the Sheep-lord?
Hallatan, the sheep-lord of Hyarastorni in Númenor.
Which elf was an ancestor of Elrond and a distant ancestor of Aragorn? P.S. We don't get to hear about him much at all!
Inderjit S
03-16-2003, 02:38 PM
Hm...vague you are, but I'll haphazard a guess-Elmo?
Ithrynluin
03-16-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Inderjit S
Hm...vague you are, but I'll haphazard a guess-Elmo?
Elmo is not the one I had in mind. But since I was vague, you can either guess again, or post a new question.
Inderjit S
03-16-2003, 03:01 PM
I'll post a new question thanks. :D
Hm....Which Elf wore his/her hair in long plaits braided with gold?
Aragorn II < Arathorn II < Arador < Argonui < Arathorn I < Arassuil < Arahad II < Aravorn < Aragost < Arahad I < Araglas < Aragorn I < Aravir < Aranuir < Arahael < Aranarth < Arvedui < Araphant < Araval < Arveleg II < Arvegil < Argeleb II < Araphor < Arveleg I < Argeleb I < Malvegil < Celebrindor < Celepharn < Mallor < Beleg < Amlaith < Eärendur < Elendur < Valandur < Tarondor < Tarcil < Arantar < Eldacar < Valandil < Isildur < Elendil < Amandil <<< Silmariën < Tar-Elendil < Tar-Amandil < Vardamir < Elros < Eärendil > Elrond
???
EDIT: Whoops- took too long :)
Ithrynluin
03-16-2003, 07:16 PM
The answer to my question was Galathil.
Hm....Which Elf wore his/her hair in long plaits braided with gold?
I think it was Fingon.
What is the name of a river in Middle Earth, the meaning of which is "fresh-river"?
Inderjit S
03-16-2003, 07:40 PM
Yep it was Fingon.
The River Duilwen, was a River in Ossiriand and it was the one above adurant, where Beren and Luthein dwelt in Tol Galen.
Inderjit S
03-16-2003, 07:43 PM
O.K, new question. Who was the original captor of Gandalf, before Saruman came into existence?
Ithrynluin
03-16-2003, 10:09 PM
Treebeard.
Who were the two well-known wise women of the First Age?
Inderjit S
03-16-2003, 11:13 PM
Andreth, of the house of Beor and Adanel, of the house of Hador.
Where was the first major western encampent of men?
Manwë Súlimo
03-17-2003, 12:28 AM
Was it in Estolad?
Inderjit S
03-17-2003, 09:58 AM
Nope. I think I should change remove 'major' and change 'western' to known. It was not in Beleriand.
So, where was the first KNOWN encampment of men?
Lantarion
03-17-2003, 10:13 AM
Might it be the Vales of Anduin?
[PS: Christopher, I'm from Europe; Finland in fact. :)]
christopher
03-17-2003, 01:45 PM
Was it in Nevrast?
P.S. Good to see someone else from Europe here!!
Inderjit S
03-17-2003, 02:24 PM
Nope, Nope and Nope.
Inderjit S
03-17-2003, 03:34 PM
It wasn't in Beleriand.
christopher
03-17-2003, 03:46 PM
Perhaps in the western vales of the White Mountains, I mean south of the Isen (Druwaith Iaur) Oh, eeuuhm, this is probably in Beleriand too; bugger! I give up.
Or did the Isen only came into being thousands of years later?
You say it wasn't Beleriand, could it the be Ossiriand?
Inderjit S
03-17-2003, 06:48 PM
I could give you a clue if you want.
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