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christopher
03-17-2003, 07:04 PM
Please do!

Inderjit S
03-17-2003, 07:56 PM
Araw's (Sindarin for Orome) Kine (Oxen) can be found close to here.

christopher
03-17-2003, 08:27 PM
The Sea of Rhun?

Inderjit S
03-17-2003, 08:54 PM
Correct. You are free to post a new question. :)

christopher
03-18-2003, 12:37 AM
Turumbar went to Nargothrond where he was given another or perhaps better, a second, elvish, name. What was this name and what did it mean?

Melko Belcha
03-18-2003, 12:49 AM
Agarwaen, son of Umarth - the Bloodstained, son of Ill-fate.

christopher
03-18-2003, 12:53 AM
No, sorry, that answer is wrong. He gave himself that name. YOu see, the name I search is the name that was given him there by the elves.

P.S. Since it is 01:00 at night here I'm going to bed, so I'll read your answer in the morning.

Christopher.

Melko Belcha
03-18-2003, 01:45 AM
Sorry.

Adanedhel for his beauty and noble bearing.
Mormegil the Black Sword of Nargothrond.

Inderjit S
03-18-2003, 09:54 AM
Thurin-the secret by Finduilas.

christopher
03-18-2003, 10:05 AM
Melo you are correct!
Adanedhel or man-elf. Go ahead asks us a question preciousss, asks us asks us asks us.

Melko Belcha
03-18-2003, 04:32 PM
Who was the King of Rohan that settled Harrowdale?

Aulë
03-18-2003, 04:43 PM
Aldor the Old

Melko Belcha
03-18-2003, 04:46 PM
Correct.

Aulë
03-18-2003, 04:54 PM
What did Tolkien originally call Arathorn II?

Inderjit S
03-18-2003, 05:37 PM
Celegorn.

Aulë
03-18-2003, 05:42 PM
Correct

Inderjit S
03-18-2003, 06:27 PM
Hm....new question.

Before the idea about slaying 70 Trolls, the mighty Hurin Thalion slew a large number of a diffrent evil race. What was it and how many?

christopher
03-18-2003, 07:47 PM
I was doubting about dwarves, but you do not call dwarves evil, do you.

Tuilin
03-18-2003, 08:04 PM
Some yrch maybe?

Inderjit S
03-18-2003, 08:18 PM
Numbers please as well as race.

Tuilin
03-18-2003, 08:20 PM
So I was right...:rolleyes:

Inderjit S
03-18-2003, 08:24 PM
I never said you were right. None of the answers have conatined numbers, and I was veryfing that numbers were needed as well as race.

Tuilin
03-18-2003, 08:25 PM
Oh, well...hehe:p

Melko Belcha
03-18-2003, 10:25 PM
100 Orcs

Inderjit S
03-18-2003, 11:15 PM
Right you are.

Melko Belcha
03-18-2003, 11:22 PM
In the first draft of The Hobbit, what was these characters original names?
1. Smaug
2. Thorin
3. Gandalf

BlackCaptain
03-19-2003, 12:49 AM
oo i'd like to hear this answer...

Tuilin
03-19-2003, 03:45 PM
Gandalf-Olorin...?

Melko Belcha
03-19-2003, 03:48 PM
No sorry.

Aulë
03-19-2003, 04:11 PM
I suppose the answers are in HoME?

Inderjit S
03-19-2003, 04:52 PM
They're not in any HoME I've read, 1,2, 5, 6,7, 10, 11 or 12 and they're not in 3 or 4, or 8 or 9, for that matter, (Well I don't think they are). Where the hell did you get the Hobbit drafts!?

Melko Belcha
03-19-2003, 05:13 PM
The answers will not be found in the HoME books.
I have the answer and quote ready if you would like.

BlackCaptain
03-19-2003, 05:15 PM
I'd like it... but i wouldnt wana ruin the fun for everyone else!

Did you by any chace get this answer...er question... from the Letters of JRR Tolkien?

Melko Belcha
03-19-2003, 05:29 PM
No it is not in Letters even though he does talk about how he got Gandalf from the Voluspa where it is spelt Gandalfr. Letters #297

Aulë
03-19-2003, 05:30 PM
Well, could you name the source as a hint then?

Melko Belcha
03-19-2003, 05:36 PM
The Annotated Hobbit
Revised and Expanded edition
Annotated by Douglas A. Anderson

A must have for any Tolkien fan.

BlackCaptain
03-21-2003, 09:21 PM
I know Strider was origonaly Trotter... but thats not the question...

Elendil3119
03-21-2003, 10:15 PM
I GOT IT! Yay! :D

Smaug - Pryftan
Thorin - Gandalf, the head dwarf :D
Gandalf - Bladorthin

Melko Belcha
03-21-2003, 10:24 PM
100% Correct

The Annotated Hobbit - Introduction
Stage A. A six-page handwritten manuscript of Chapter 1 (the opening pages are missing). This is the earliest surviving manuscript, in which the dragon is named Pryftan, and the head dwarf Gandalf, and the wizard Bladorthin.

Lantarion
03-22-2003, 04:32 PM
Hmm, I think I like the published names better (although Pryftan sounds great). :D
You're up Elendil!

Melko Belcha
03-22-2003, 06:02 PM
I do like the finished names alot better.

I have been searching and can't find it but I have read that Gandalfr (it's not misspelled) in the Voluspa translates to Elf-staff, and Eikinskjaldi translates to Oakenshield. I just remember it because Elf-staff fits Gandalf so well.

Lasgalen
03-22-2003, 07:18 PM
Hi Melko,
I see that you got your name fixed.

-Lasgalen

Melko Belcha
03-22-2003, 07:32 PM
Hello Lasgalen
Yes got it fixed, Thank You very much.
:)

Elendil3119
03-22-2003, 08:09 PM
What were the pillars of Menegroth made to resemble?

Lasgalen
03-22-2003, 08:13 PM
The likeness of the beeches of Orome.

-Lasgalen

Elendil3119
03-22-2003, 08:36 PM
Ouch. I thought it was harder than it was. Oh well...;) You're up, Lasgalen.

Lasgalen
03-22-2003, 08:41 PM
Who forged Beleg's sword?

-Lasgalen

Elendil3119
03-22-2003, 08:49 PM
Eol the Dark Elf. I will post my question in a minute. :)

Elendil3119
03-22-2003, 09:04 PM
What did Men call the people of King Felagund?

Inderjit S
03-22-2003, 09:21 PM
Nomin.

Elendil3119
03-22-2003, 11:04 PM
Good job, and you're up. :)

Inderjit S
03-23-2003, 12:03 AM
Before Beren, the Nandor and the Ents, who took out the Dwarves of Nogrod after they stole the Silmaril and sacked Doriath?

Aulë
03-23-2003, 09:23 AM
The Laiquendi

Inderjit S
03-23-2003, 10:56 AM
Nope.

Lantarion
03-23-2003, 02:05 PM
By the Elves at Menegroth?

Aulë
03-23-2003, 03:34 PM
Green Elves

Inderjit S
03-23-2003, 03:40 PM
No.

Aulë
03-23-2003, 03:44 PM
Any hints?

Inderjit S
03-23-2003, 04:04 PM
One of them was a hasty-riser when angered, according to his mom that is. The other translated a lot of Dwarven legends and was good friends with them. They led a force of their men.

Manwë Súlimo
03-27-2003, 05:06 AM
Ok I'll throw out some names a friend gave me, Caranthir and Maedhros

Iluisa Olórin
03-27-2003, 05:16 AM
Ufedhin and Bodruith? (Although, this answer is not compatible with your latest post). Failing that, another hint, perhaps?

Tar-Elenion
03-27-2003, 05:55 AM
Celegorm (Tyelcormo) and Curufin in the ToY 'B' in WotJ is what Inderjit is looking for.

Name the fourth son of Finwe.

Manwë Súlimo
03-27-2003, 05:57 AM
I know of no fourth son, I know of Fëanor, FIngolfin, and Finarfin, and his daughters, Findis, Finvain, and Faniel, but I don't know of a fourth son

Tar-Elenion
03-27-2003, 06:01 AM
Look harder. ;)

Iluisa Olórin
03-27-2003, 06:57 AM
Is this a trick question relating to the death of Finwë's first wife, Míriel?

Tar-Elenion
03-27-2003, 07:05 AM
No, not a trick question (at least no more a trick question than referring to Finwe's _three_ daughters is a trick reply). Has nothing to do with Miriel.

Inderjit S
03-27-2003, 09:56 AM
Er....didn't Finwe only have three children in the final drafts? The only two that were left were Findis and Lalwende, though I can't remember Lalwende's Quenyarin name.

Aulë
03-27-2003, 11:56 AM
Would it be Finrod? (The draft name for Finarfin)

Tar-Elenion
03-27-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Inderjit S
Er....didn't Finwe only have three children in the final drafts? The only two that were left were Findis and Lalwende, though I can't remember Lalwende's Quenyarin name.

Are the trivia questions limited to 'final drafts'?

You are probably thinking of 'Irime' (Lalwende). But my question has nothing to do with Finwe's daughters.

Tar-Elenion
03-27-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Pippin_Took
Would it be Finrod? (The draft name for Finarfin)
No, that would still be Finwe's third son. The fourth is a seperate character.

Inderjit S
03-27-2003, 08:45 PM
Finrun was the fourth son of Finwe, in HoME 4, in the early draftings of the Quenta. Didn't his surname translate into 'ever-sorrowful'?

Inderjit S
03-27-2003, 08:52 PM
QUOTE]Are the trivia questions limited to 'final drafts'?[/QUOTE]

No. I was just replying Manwe's post on the 'three daughters' of Finwe. My question on the Celegorm and Curufin certainly wasn't a 'final-draft' one.

Tar-Elenion
03-28-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Inderjit S
Finrun was the fourth son of Finwe, in HoME 4, in the early draftings of the Quenta. Didn't his surname translate into 'ever-sorrowful'?

Finrun Felageomor ('very sorrowful'). It was in name-lists associated with thetranslations of the Quenta into Old English.

Inderjit S
03-28-2003, 12:00 PM
Anyhow, whilst we are on obscure Finwean references, who was Finwe the third?

Aulë
03-28-2003, 12:01 PM
Nelyafinwe?

Inderjit S
03-28-2003, 01:29 PM
I'd like his/her name in it's common Sindarnized form, please.

Lasgalen
03-28-2003, 01:38 PM
Maedhros

-Lasgalen

Inderjit S
03-28-2003, 04:00 PM
Well done! Now you're up....

Lasgalen
03-28-2003, 06:43 PM
What is the Elf name for Hill of Slain?

-Lasgalen

Elwe Singollo
03-28-2003, 07:15 PM
I dont have my books with me, but I think Sam and Rosie had 13 children.;)

Lasgalen
03-28-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Elwe Singollo
I dont have my books with me, but I think Sam and Rosie had 13 children.;)
:confused: I think you accidently posted in the wrong thread.

-Lasgalen

Aulë
03-28-2003, 07:39 PM
Hmmm, Haudh-en-Ndengin

Lasgalen
03-28-2003, 07:42 PM
Haudh-en-Ndengin is correct.

-Lasgalen

Aulë
03-29-2003, 08:31 AM
What was Prentice's real name?

Iluisa Olórin
03-29-2003, 10:13 AM
Gaffer Gamgee.

Aulë
03-29-2003, 05:44 PM
Nope

Iluisa Olórin
03-29-2003, 09:07 PM
Prentice is not a character, surely? I take it you're intending the (Middle English) word?

Aulë
03-30-2003, 06:44 AM
Prentice is a character in one of Tolkien's books.

Lantarion
04-01-2003, 10:17 AM
Dang, Pippin, you ask some tricky q's! I think I should get the HoME collection, and a similar book dating pre-publishing times, or I'll be buried in strange names and unrevised place-names! :p
Haha, I read 'Smith oof Wootton Major', as well as 'Farmer Giles of Ham', on the very day I posted this. :p

Inderjit S
04-01-2003, 10:46 AM
It's not HoMe, thats for sure, so don't bother. A clue Pippin?

Ithrynluin
04-01-2003, 11:50 AM
Oooh, I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner.:D

Prentice was called Alf, if I remember correctly. It's been a long time since I read "Smith of Wooton Major".

What are the two kinds of hope for the Elves called?

Flame of Udûn
04-01-2003, 11:55 AM
Sam Gamgee is the answer for Pippin Took's question, isn't it?

Aulë
04-01-2003, 12:37 PM
No, the answer was 'Alf, the King of Faery' (from Smith of Wootton Major). Ith answered correctly.

Inderjit S
04-01-2003, 01:11 PM
Estel and Amdir.

Inderjit S
04-01-2003, 02:56 PM
Who was the first Prince of the Noldor to die?

Beleg
04-01-2003, 03:14 PM
You mean Prince? OR Princess too? I think Finwe?

Aulë
04-01-2003, 03:43 PM
Dilwë

Inderjit S
04-01-2003, 03:54 PM
Both wrong. Finwe wasn't a Noldorin prince.

Edit: No I mean PRINCE. The answer is not Elenwe.

Aulë
04-01-2003, 04:17 PM
Ambarto

Aulë
04-01-2003, 05:39 PM
What was the name of the sandman that Roverandom meets on his journey?

Lasgalen
04-01-2003, 08:25 PM
I thought Feanor was the first Prince to die. :confused:

-Lasgalen

Manwë Súlimo
04-01-2003, 11:25 PM
Fëanor wasn't a prince when he died. Since Finwë died, Fëanor became king of the Noldor.

Niniel
04-02-2003, 06:24 PM
So, the answer to Aule's question is Psamathos Psamatides. What was Beor's name before he took service with Finrod?

Nóm
04-02-2003, 06:33 PM
Balan.

I guess no one knew or wanted to hunt down the answer to my question, so here is another.

List the Ainulindale versions as named by Christopher Tolkien (example, Aindulindale A), in chronological order, and give very breif explaination for when and how they developed from the previous version.

Iluisa Olórin
04-05-2003, 02:21 AM
Which Ainu did have a name that was later that of a dwarf that Bilbo journeyed with? (Believe me, I hunted :D).

There is a myriad of differences between the versions: interested readers should refer to THoMe Vol. 10.

Ainulindalë A

Ainulindalë B
Written in the 1930s, before TLotR, the World is in existence and has been given Being by Ilúvatar before the Ainur enter.

Ainulindalë C*
Always insignificant differences to C, for example: "The Valar arrayed themselves in the form and temper some as of male and some as of female [although, physically, they were neither]."

Ainulindalë C
The World is a Vision that has not been given Being.

Ainulindalë D
In this version, belonging closely in time with C, the World is created by Ilúvatar's command, "Ea!"

Elendil3119
04-06-2003, 05:50 AM
That looks pretty correct to me. :D You're probably safe to post a question.

Iluisa Olórin
04-06-2003, 09:19 AM
Of which of his clans of air-spirits did Manwë not specifically ask to guide Ilsaluntë?


In answer to your original question, Nóm: Óin, the Gnomish form of Uinen, the Lady of the Sea and spouse of Ossë, was later the name of a dwarf that Bilbo journeyed with.

Inderjit S
04-06-2003, 11:36 AM
Hmm....the Suruli maybe?

Iluisa Olórin
04-06-2003, 01:37 PM
Nope...

BlackCaptain
04-07-2003, 09:45 PM
NEEKERBREEKERS!!!

They are flies!

Inderjit S
04-08-2003, 12:12 AM
What?

BlackCaptain
04-08-2003, 01:14 AM
Joke...

Neekerbreekers are flies, so that would make them creatures of the air. Im just turing them into spirits as a joke...

get it?...

Iluisa Olórin
04-08-2003, 05:45 AM
Neekerbreekers... being a name, coined by Sam, for the creatures that inhabited the reeds of the Midgewater Marshes that squeaked 'neek-breek, breek-neek' all night. They were presumed to be, by the Hobbits, 'evil relatives of crickets.'

BlackCaptain
04-08-2003, 01:29 PM
Well, whatever they're called, they fly. And it was only a joke.

Lantarion
04-09-2003, 02:40 PM
These HoME questions are getting along very slowly..

Lasgalen
04-09-2003, 09:17 PM
I agree, Lantarion. Not all of us have all 12 vol of HoME. (I only have 3) These obscure questions are discouraging, but I am very tenacious. You all can't get rid of me that easily :D :p

-Lasgalen

Iluisa Olórin
04-09-2003, 11:11 PM
I'm surprised no one's answered the latest question yet, as it really isn't that difficult at all; it only requires one HoMe volume, if even that, to answer.

Inderjit S has already dropped a whopping hint... :D

Lantarion
04-11-2003, 04:57 PM
Well drop another, because we don't seem to be getting it!! :p

Iluisa Olórin
04-11-2003, 11:34 PM
The answer is, of course, the Mánir. :( :p

What did Danuin, Ranuin and Fanuin fulfill?

Lasgalen
04-11-2003, 11:57 PM
Danuin, Ranuin and Fanuin are spirits of time.

-Lasgalen

Inderjit S
04-12-2003, 12:10 AM
Danuin=Day
Fanuin=Year
Ranuin=Month

Iluisa Olórin
04-12-2003, 12:46 AM
What did they fulfill (or because of what did they come into the picture)?

Niniel
04-12-2003, 12:05 PM
They introduced the counting of time, is that what you mean?

Inderjit S
04-12-2003, 12:10 PM
They came into the picture because of the creation of the sun+moon and hence the beggining of the counting of 'time'.

Iluisa Olórin
04-12-2003, 01:36 PM
Inderjit S: you had the closest answer.

I was looking for "the Music of the Ainur": Danuin, Ranuin and Fanuin fulfilled (or they came into the picture because of) the Music of the Ainur.

Inderjit S
04-12-2003, 06:44 PM
Who was the great-Uncle of Isildur?

BlackCaptain
04-12-2003, 06:49 PM
Is the great uncle the Grandfathers brother, or the Uncles dad? I just have my family terms mixed up...

Beleg
04-12-2003, 07:09 PM
Nùmendil

Inderjit S
04-12-2003, 07:21 PM
Grandfathers brother.

Beleg
04-12-2003, 07:23 PM
Elentir would be the great-Uncle. Nùmedil is the great-grandad.

Inderjit S
04-12-2003, 07:31 PM
Right you are, continue....

Beleg
04-12-2003, 07:37 PM
At the time of War of the Ring, Approximately How old were the Fire Beacons of Gondor?

Tar-Elenion
04-13-2003, 02:34 AM
The full beacon system was not more than 500 years old at the time of the War of the Ring.

Before Thorin and Co left Rivendell, Bilbo was given something atypical for Hobbits, what?

Lantarion
04-13-2003, 12:55 PM
From 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Party'
"Indeed for your old grandfather Took's sake, and for the sake of poor Belladonna, I will give you what you asked for."
"I beg your pardon, I haven't asked for anything!"
"Yes, you have! Twice now. My pardon. I give it to you. In fact I will go as far as to send you on this adventure..."
Is that what you were looking for? :D

Tar-Elenion
04-13-2003, 03:57 PM
No. That was 'given' him while in the Shire. What was he given before leaving Rivendell?

Aulë
04-13-2003, 04:06 PM
I presume that this isn't found in the standard copy of "The Hobbit"?

Tar-Elenion
04-13-2003, 04:57 PM
It is not mentioned in the _narrative_ of The Hobbit.

Eriol
04-13-2003, 05:03 PM
Shoewear :D

I think it was boots, more exactly.

This is a cute one: Give the elvish names of six planets...

Aulë
04-13-2003, 05:21 PM
Eärendil (Venus), Carnil (Mars), Alcarinquë (Jupiter) Nénar (Neptune), Luinil (Uranus) and Lumbar (Saturn)

Eriol
04-13-2003, 05:31 PM
Correct. Cute, isn't it? I had a running bet with myself that whoever got it would not include Arda/Ambar ;).

Aulë
04-13-2003, 05:40 PM
Name 15 Elvish colours.

(This is a doozy :) )

Lantarion
04-13-2003, 08:42 PM
luin/luinë
Grey: mista or sinda
laiqua
carnë/narwa
Silver: telpë
Yellow: malina
Brown: varnë
culuina
White: ninquë or lossë
Black: morë
Golden: laurëa

Whoo, can't get anymore.

Iluisa Olórin
04-15-2003, 12:18 AM
That's eleven; here's four more:
copper-coloured: bgaer
dark brown: baran
pale blue: elw
swart: donn

To which of the Nine may be compared the name of what path that was blocked forever when the Elves left Valinor, meaning what? ;)

BlackCaptain
04-15-2003, 12:26 AM
Woah... either tahts alot of questions, I'm bad at grammar, or you mistyped? I don't understand the question. What all are you asking?

Iluisa Olórin
04-15-2003, 12:38 AM
One question, with three parts...

Lantarion
04-18-2003, 06:03 PM
bump.
[wonders why these questions take so long to answer]

Aulë
04-18-2003, 06:21 PM
Which 'nine' are you referring to? The Nazgul or the FOTR?

Gandalf White
04-18-2003, 06:39 PM
:eek: YIKES! :eek: Where do you people come up with these? Give us a hint, or me at least, is it to do with Aragorn?

Aulë
04-18-2003, 06:57 PM
Gimli?

(One out of nine chance of being correct :) )

Gandalf White
04-18-2003, 07:13 PM
Lol.

I have my reason for saying Aragorn. I just don't want to look like complete idiot by taking a huge guess in the absolute wrong direction. ;)

BlackCaptain
04-18-2003, 11:56 PM
I'm gonna say Boromir. Cuz Legolas means Green-leaf, A dwarf wouldnt be named after an Elvish reference, Aragorn is taken, and why would a Hobbit be named after a blocked elvish road?

As to what rout? The 'Straight way'?

As to Meaning What? Im guessing Boromir means 'Jewel' because Jewels (The Silmarills) are what drove the Elves out of Aman in the first place, and I think I remember reading somewhere about what Boromir means... It was either Boromir or Faramir that means 'Jewel'.

Iluisa Olórin
04-19-2003, 02:50 AM
Here's a big hint...

Answer the question "What path was blocked forever when the Elves left Valinor?" first.

BlackCaptain
04-19-2003, 03:13 AM
Thats not a fair question! The Noldo were just condemned from entering the Undying lands again after the kinslaying. The Enchanted isles were set up as a border. What way was blocked? The one that the Enchanted Isles gaurds! Is there a name? I never encountered one!

Anamatar IV
04-19-2003, 03:18 AM
I have a feeling it is in HoMe...even more so a feeling it's in HoMe V...even more so a feeling it's in the first Silmarillion...I don't know...just a feeling. I need to read it before I can be sure.

Is it in HoMe?

Gandalf White
04-19-2003, 03:41 AM
Ack, you didn't give me the clue I wanted, so here goes. It is Aragorn, known as Elessar, whose name is similar to the the Lonely Isle, also named Tol Eressea.

I also believe that the only human to cross this magical border was somehow the ancestor of Elrond, and therefore Arwen, whom Aragorn married. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

BlackCaptain
04-19-2003, 03:49 AM
Tol Eressea isn't a path. It's an island. But that's a very good guess still

Iluisa Olórin
04-19-2003, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Gandalf White
Ack, you didn't give me the clue I wanted, so here goes. It is Aragorn, known as Elessar, whose name is similar to the the Lonely Isle, also named Tol Eressea.

I also believe that the only human to cross this magical border was somehow the ancestor of Elrond, and therefore Arwen, whom Aragorn married. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Not Aragorn and not Tol Eressëa.

Anamatar IV: Yes; it is in the earliest of the HoMe.

Gandalf White
04-19-2003, 04:52 AM
Tol Eressea isn't a path. It's an island. But that's a very good guess still Lol yes, I see the error of my way. :( I was thinking of what was blocking a certain path. :rolleyes:

Oh well, I don't have HoMe :(

Aulë
04-19-2003, 08:26 AM
OK, since I have no idea of what this path's name is, I'll just post all the meanings of the names of the nine to help solve this nasty question.

'Gimli': Fire
'Boromir': Faithful Jewel
'Legolas': Green Leaf
'Aragorn': Lord, or King
'Gandalf': Wand Elf
'Mithrandir': Gray Wanderer
'Frodo': Wise by experience
'Peregrin': Traveller in strange countries
'Samwise': Half wise
'Meriadoc': ???

Iluisa Olórin
04-19-2003, 10:41 AM
What are some other names? ;)

Aulë
04-19-2003, 12:09 PM
'Estel': Hope
'Thorongil': Eagle of the Star
'Envinyatar': The Renewer
'Elessar': Elfstone
'Olórin': Dreams


They are the only variations I can think of.

Tuilin
04-19-2003, 01:18 PM
Is the path Olore Malle?
Hm, so if it is, is it Olorin? Sounds similar...

Aulë
04-19-2003, 01:42 PM
Oh yeah! Everything has fallen into place.

Gandalf (Olórin, whick means Dreams) may be compared to the name of the path blocked forever (Olore Malle) when the Elves left Valinor. Olore Malle means the Path of Dreams.

Tuilin
04-19-2003, 03:10 PM
So Im right:)
Have I answerd the entire question or is there something more?
Edit: Never mind, Aule answerd that.

Tuilin
04-19-2003, 03:20 PM
How many teeth has Gollum??

Aulë
04-19-2003, 03:23 PM
That would have to be six.

(Yay! The first non-HoME question in a long time :) )

Aulë
04-19-2003, 03:29 PM
OK, what title was shared by both a Hobbit and a Dragon?

Lantarion
04-19-2003, 03:54 PM
Hmm, let me see..
Ancalagon the Black.. Don't tthink so.
Smaug the Golden.. Not sure, but perhaps not.
Glaurung was also called the Golden.. But I don't think it was him, unless a Hobbit was called the 'Worm of Morgoth'. :D

I can't think of any other dragons.. Unless you're counting the dragon from 'Farmer Giles of Ham'?

Aulë
04-19-2003, 04:08 PM
No, this dragon resided in Middle Earth. (Aren't I nice? Giving you a hint this early. :) )

BlackCaptain
04-19-2003, 07:01 PM
Goldilocks?

Aulë
04-19-2003, 07:17 PM
lol
No, Goldilocks wasn't a title for a Hobbit: It was a name. :)

Tuilin
04-19-2003, 07:58 PM
Wasnt it something like Smaug the magnificent and merry the magnificent??

Dragons live:)

BlackCaptain
04-19-2003, 09:33 PM
Ohh thats a GREAT answer...

Aulë
04-19-2003, 09:36 PM
Yep, that's correct Tuilin.
You're up.

Gandalf White
04-19-2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by BlackCaptain
Ohh thats a GREAT answer... I seem to detect a certain amount of bitterness.... ;) :rolleyes:

Gandalf White
04-21-2003, 02:36 PM
Uhhhh, Tuilin?

I think I'll try and PM him.

Tuilin
04-21-2003, 05:40 PM
PM me you mean?? Im female, so Im not "him".
Sorry for not posting a question, I forgot:rolleyes:
Well, lets see...Im horrible at making questions.I hate it:rolleyes:

In wich year was Fili born??

Aulë
04-21-2003, 06:49 PM
The year 2859 of the Third Age

Lantarion
04-21-2003, 07:24 PM
Let's make it a habit that if you know your answer is completely correct without any possible doubt, just post a question along with the answer, ok? :rolleyes:

Aulë
04-21-2003, 07:44 PM
Sorry, I was off hunting down a question.


When was King Narmacil II born?

BlackCaptain
04-21-2003, 11:09 PM
What is Sauron!

I have no idea!

Lantarion
04-22-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by BlackCaptain
What is Sauron!

I have no idea!
Er..what do you mean? :confused:

Aulë
04-22-2003, 11:27 AM
"When was King Narmacil II born?"

Does it really need explaining?

Gandalf White
04-22-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Aulë
"When was King Narmacil II born?"

Does it really need explaining? Erm, Aule, I think Lantarion was referring to
Originally posted by BlackCaptain
What is Sauron!

I have no idea!

Heh, I could be wrong though.

Tuilin
04-22-2003, 02:49 PM
Uhm...Sauron is a Maia, if that is what you meant?!

Inderjit S
04-22-2003, 03:40 PM
King NarmaKil the second, was Gondor's 29th King and was born in the T.A 1684.

In Aman, if Feanor was talking to Celegorm ,what name would he be most likely call him by?

Aulë
04-22-2003, 04:15 PM
"Sonny Boy"
:p

lol, no
Seriously though: "Tyelkormo"?

Inderjit S
04-22-2003, 04:44 PM
No.

Lasgalen
04-22-2003, 08:37 PM
Teleporno

-Lasgalen

Inderjit S
04-22-2003, 09:49 PM
No, Teleporno was Celeborn's Telerin name. *giggles at the name TELEPORNO*

Aulë
04-23-2003, 05:26 AM
lol- Yes, that name is just asking for trouble. :rolleyes:

CelegorN?

And where did you find this impossible question? HoME 11?

Inderjit S
04-23-2003, 05:40 PM
Celegorn is a dated version of Celegorm's Sindarnized name so..
NO. Celegorn was also once the name of Aragorn's father.

Aulë
04-23-2003, 06:25 PM
Wasn't that Celethorn?

Tar-Elenion
04-24-2003, 12:57 AM
'Turkafinwe' was his 'father-name' ('Turko', is the shortened form).

Who was Lungorthin?

Inderjit S
04-24-2003, 10:10 AM
Lungorthin was a Balrog, head of Morgoth's guard i think, though still under Gothmog's command.

Your answer was right, Elenion, though I think that he would've been called Turko, since the 'Finwe' prefix is on all of Feanor's sons, plus Finarfin and Fingoflin.

Aule-Celegorn was one of quite a few of Arathorn IIs 'sketch' names. Tolkien sure liked changing names.

NEW QUESTION-Originally, the Sandyman's set up a factory in the Shire, after Frodo and co had left-but what did it make?

Iluisa Olórin
04-28-2003, 08:42 AM
Ted Sandyman's Mill produced flour.

Inderjit S
04-28-2003, 09:54 AM
Not the answer I was looking for.

Aulë
04-28-2003, 01:49 PM
Biscuits?

Inderjit S
04-28-2003, 02:21 PM
yes

Aulë
04-28-2003, 02:29 PM
What is Emyn Rhain also known as?

Inderjit S
04-28-2003, 05:57 PM
the 'Border Hills'? Another answer to this could be the Mannish translation of the Sindarin name, which was 'Green Hills'.

Chymaera
04-29-2003, 08:00 AM
What was the word that Orcs used for Elves in the Lord of the Rings?

Aulë
04-29-2003, 02:12 PM
Correct Inder, you're up.

Inderjit S
04-29-2003, 02:30 PM
What is the point of posting a question when a answer to the last question hasn't been confirmed and a new question hasn't been asked?

The only Orkish term I can find in LoTR is 'Tark' which was their name for the Dunedain, and the only Orkish word I can find for Elves if 'Golug' for the Noldor from the Narn. You're question is void anyway....

Anyway, to continue, the new question is what was the original name of the Sources of Narog?

Lantarion
04-29-2003, 03:32 PM
Eithel Ivrin?

Inderjit S
04-29-2003, 05:14 PM
ORIGINAL as in earlier name of Eithel Ivrin.

Aulë
04-29-2003, 08:00 PM
'Ivrinin lähde'?

Inderjit S
04-29-2003, 09:41 PM
No.

Iluisa Olórin
04-29-2003, 11:02 PM
Ivrineithel?

Inderjit S
04-29-2003, 11:23 PM
Yes.

Iluisa Olórin
04-29-2003, 11:40 PM
What are the names of two cordials mentioned in the HoMe and to whom are they attributed?

Aulë
04-30-2003, 01:09 PM
Miruvor- Gandalf carried a flask of it with him to help the Company of the Ring on their southward journey.

Orc Liquor- Uglúk gave it to Merry and Pippin whilst travelling through Rohan

Iluisa Olórin
04-30-2003, 01:46 PM
The first is correct; but to whom is it attributed?

Aulë
04-30-2003, 02:21 PM
What do you mean?
As in who invented it?
Or are you wanting us to say that it's the Cordial of Imladris?

Inderjit S
04-30-2003, 04:08 PM
The Miruvor was the 'cordial of the Valar' and is a stem of a longer Valinorean word. It was served in feasts etc in Valinor.

Lantarion
04-30-2003, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Aulë
'Ivrinin lähde'?

OMG! That's perfect Finnish, for "[The] Spring of Ivrin"!! :eek:
Did Tolkien actually use that?!
The more correct form (i.e. the Springs of Ivrin) would be "Ivrinin lähteet"..

Iluisa Olórin
04-30-2003, 11:18 PM
I mean, who produced miruvor? The answer is obvious now (Elrond), so I will let you go next.

Inderjit S has given to whom is attributed the second cordial I was looking for, miruvórë.

Inderjit S
05-03-2003, 01:16 AM
What was the anesse of Olwe?

Iluisa Olórin
05-03-2003, 01:33 AM
Singollo (Sindikollo / Sindicollo).

Ithrynluin
05-03-2003, 10:44 PM
Isn't Singollo associated with Elwë, not Olwë?

Elendil3119
05-03-2003, 11:09 PM
Yes, it is.
Two lords they had, for their numbers were great: Elwë Singollo (which signifies Greymantle) and Olwë his brother.
By the way, what is an anesse?

Inderjit S
05-03-2003, 11:21 PM
Nick/after name. Ilusia was wrong as Ithryluin said Sindicollo was Elwe's Anasse.

Iluisa Olórin
05-03-2003, 11:30 PM
Olwë is the later name of Elwë, brother of Thingol; hence why I suggested Singollo, etc.

How about Solwë?

Inderjit S
05-04-2003, 12:22 AM
Nope. Guess again.....

Tar-Elenion
05-04-2003, 01:56 AM
Ciriaran.

Tar-Elenion
05-04-2003, 04:32 PM
Who is Aman?

Lantarion
05-04-2003, 05:05 PM
Manwë.

What is the Heofonsýl, and how is it related to Manwë?

Aulë
05-04-2003, 05:12 PM
Meneltarma
'Pillar of Heaven', a mountain of Númenor, upon which was a great temple of Eru Ilúvatar

??

Lantarion
05-04-2003, 05:15 PM
Yes, but also...

Inderjit S
05-05-2003, 06:51 PM
Also means Taniquetil in Aduinac, the residence of Manwe and Varda.

If you lived on Agar's hill what would you call the men of Numenor?

Tar-Elenion
05-06-2003, 11:39 PM
Go-hilleg.

Inderjit S
05-06-2003, 11:45 PM
correct, go on...

Tar-Elenion
05-07-2003, 03:49 AM
Aduni is?

Nóm
05-07-2003, 08:48 AM
The name of Westron in the Westron tongue.


Also Adunaic for 'the west' in Lowdham's Report.

Tar-Elenion
05-07-2003, 02:35 PM
Correct (I was looking for the first one).

Nóm
05-07-2003, 02:58 PM
Unless all things that grow in the earth should sing together making unto their queen an offering of song to be laid before the throne of Iluvatar, the beauty and majesty of what could not be told?

Tuilin
05-07-2003, 04:06 PM
The trees of Valinor?

Lantarion
05-07-2003, 04:17 PM
(If Tuilin's reply is incorrect): ...Arda?

baragund
05-08-2003, 11:30 PM
From your question, I think the queen you are referring to is Yavanna, so I would say either the two trees of Valinor or the Sun and the Moon.

Inderjit S
05-08-2003, 11:49 PM
Ea?

Nóm
05-09-2003, 05:30 AM
All incorrect.

A who + specific, will be the answer.

For example: Luthien singing vs. Luthien


Enjoy

Tuilin
05-10-2003, 03:17 PM
So it cant be the Trees of Valinor and the Silmarils then...?!!

BlackCaptain
05-11-2003, 01:45 AM
World Peace!?

No probly not...

Nóm
05-11-2003, 01:55 PM
Didn't expect this question was as difficult as it seems to be. I have had a couple people PM me about it, or ask me about it on MSN Messenger.

So here is a hint: Look to the words of Pengolodh for the answer.

Inderjit S
05-11-2003, 11:12 PM
The wuote Nom specified is taken from Ainulindale C, and it is Pengolodoh's comments about Yavanna, who he saw, evidently before the rebellion.

New Question:

Which Elf assited Dirhavael in the writing of the Narn?

Iluisa Olórin
05-11-2003, 11:45 PM
I missed the answer to Nóm's question. :confused:

Inderjit S
05-11-2003, 11:59 PM
It was in my post that statment was about YAVANNA.

Ithrynluin
05-12-2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Nóm
Unless all things that grow in the earth should sing together making unto their queen an offering of song to be laid before the throne of Iluvatar, the beauty and majesty of Yavanna could not be told.

So, this is the answer to Nóm's question then?

Iluisa Olórin
05-12-2003, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Nóm

A who + specific, will be the answer.

Aulë
05-12-2003, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Inderjit S
New Question:

Which Elf assited Dirhavael in the writing of the Narn?
Andvír?

And Nom's question still hasn't been answered.