Quiz/Trivia

[Nóm]

I was looking for "Yavanna in the likeness of a Tree" but I accept Inderjit's answer. He gave the location, anyone could easily find it now.

[Inderjit S]

Stupid old me :rolleyes: Nom might as well post a new question.

[Aulë]

Inder, what was the answer to your question then?

[Inderjit S]

That will be my NEXT question, after I get a answer to a question.

It wasn't Andvir.

[spirit]

what is the answer then?

[Aulë]

Mablung of Doriath


What is 'The Shadow of the Shadow'?

[spirit]

this is a guess.
The balrog
(99.999% it is wrong)

[Aulë]

Nope, that's incorrect.

[spirit]

thought so...
The answer is probably v. easy!

[Inderjit S]

Aldarion and Erendis/The Mariners Wife?

[Aulë]

Yep

Otherwise known as Indis i·Ciryamo

[spirit]

i am too dumb...?:(

[Inderjit S]

Due to my charitable nature and that I cannot think of another question I will alow spirit to post a question. But just this once mind....

[spirit]

What!! I cant really think of a HARD questoin so i will pass on to Aule

[Aulë]

Who is Óswine's grandson?

[Lasgalen]

Was it Æelfwine?

[Aulë]

Yep

[Lasgalen]

What is the name of the wise woman that Finrod had a debate with?

[Iluisa Olórin]

Andreth.

[Lasgalen]

Correct

[Iluisa Olórin]

What are the two (distinct) earlier names of the landlord of the inn at Bree?

[Inderjit S]

Timothy Titus/Barney Butterbur.

[Iluisa Olórin]

Good enough... (Barney being short for Barnabas). Your turn!

[Inderjit S]

Which 'race' of men was taught farming etc by the Entwives?



Hm....either the Quiz is dead or no one knows the answer. Heres a clue:

The son of one of the leaders of this 'race' of men had a namesake in Pen-arduin.

[Lantarion]

Woah, too hard.
I didn't know that all of the questions in this thread had to be from the HoME series..

[Wonko The Sane]

They DON'T Lantifex. It's just that so many questions have been asked they're probably running out of material. ;)


*hasn't posted here in ages* I haven't posted here in SOOO long...and I'm still subscribed to the thread. So I thought I'd try to keep up my Tolkien knowledge by posting here more frequently. :)

[Inderjit S]

I didn't know that all of the questions in this thread had to be from the HoME series

Yes because all other questions are too easy.

I'll give it until Saturday, if not a new question will be posed.

[Lantarion]

Hmm, good point. I suppose I should start buying the series double-quick! (I just finished BoLT 1, so I'm like 9.5% complete towards completing the whole series :rolleyes:)

[Inderjit S]

Ah well....the answer is the BORRIM.

New Question: What physical feature was the Noldoran especially noted for. (this should be quite tricky, esp. finding out what 'Noldoran' was known better as.)

[Aulë]

I presume that we should be looking for Gnomes then?

[Ithrynluin]

The Noldoran = Finwë

He had brilliant grey-blue eyes, if that is what you are looking for.

[Inderjit S]

Yes, ithrynluin you are right. And you wonder why I thought Finwe was hot. ;)

[Ithrynluin]

What is the Telerin word for the Dark Elves?

[Inderjit S]

The 'Pendi'?

[Ithrynluin]

Something missing there...;)

[Inderjit S]

Ah Moripendi.

[BlackCaptain]

Wasn't it the Moriqendi?

[Ithrynluin]

Inderjit's turn.

Moripendi is the Telerin name for the Elves of Darkness.

[Lantarion]

Inderjit seems to have forgotten about his turn.. Well, I'll post a question.

What are the three Gnomish names of the sister of the ancient Vala who spoke for Melko when he was brought in chains from Utumna?

[Lantarion]

Will no one answer? :(
I'll post a hint next time..

[Lantarion]

Well, I'm sad to see that nobody has even attempted an answer yet.. But here comes a whopping hint.

This Vala and her 'brother' were dropped at an early point and did not appear in the published Silmarillion.
I'm still looking for three of her names, in Gnomish.

[Elendil3119]

The two Vala are Makar and his sister Meássë. I can't find any alternate names for Meássë in BoLT1.:(

[Lantarion]

Ah, keep trying: it's in there. :)

[Iluisa Olórin]

Meássë's names in the Gnomish Lexicon are: Mechos, Mechothli and Magrintha.

[Lantarion]

Well done! :)
You're up.

[Iluisa Olórin]

What was always the most populous region of Númenor?

[Eriol]

The lands of the king... Arandor, I think. Close to Armenelos.

[Iluisa Olórin]

Armenelos, the City of the Kings. You're up!

[Lantarion]

Gah, again people are forgetting their turn! :mad: :)
Well I guess I'll go again then :rolleyes:.

What would be the Khuzdul rendering of "valley of shadowed rills", in a single word?

[Eriol]

Thanks Lantarion, I indeed forgot it...

And I have no idea about yours, though it does not seem so hard.

:)

[Aulë]

Azanulbizar ?

[Lantarion]

Yup! :D
Now don't go lolly-gagging, ask the next question! :D

[Aulë]

Lolly-what????:rolleyes:

What are the Sindarin names of the sons of Fëanor?

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by Aulë
Lolly-what????:rolleyes:

What are the Sindarin names of the sons of Fëanor? Maedhros, Maglor, Celegorm, Caranthir, Curufin, Amrod & Amras.

[Aulë]

Errr...Isn't that Quenyan?

[Lasgalen]

Those are the Sindarized versions of their names. The Quenyan names are Nelyafinwë, Kanafinwë, Turkafinwë, Morifinwë etc.

[Lantarion]

Kanafinwë
LOL, kana means 'chicken' in Finnish! :D
Ahem, but wow, well known, Lasgalen. Which HoME volume are their Quenya names in?

Oops, sorry.. Back to topic! Lasgalen, you're up.

[Aulë]

I found this in HoME12
XI THE SHIBBOLETH OF FËANOR
The names of the Sons of Fëanor with the legend of the fate of Amrod
My father did not fulfil his intention to give in the 'excursus' an account of the names of the Sons of Fëanor (see note 32), but some pages of initial drafting are extant. The text begins legibly in ink, but at the end of the list of 'mother-names' changes to ball-point pen, and the legend of Amrod and Amras would be too illegible to reproduce had not my father gone over it and glossed the worst parts more clearly. There are many experimental etymological notes on the Eldarin words referring to red colour and copper, and on the names of the twin brothers, which are here omitted. In the first list I have added the Sindarin names for clarity.
(1) [Maedros] Nelyafinwë 'Finwë third' in succession. (Nelyo)
(2) [Maglor] Kanafinwë 'strong-voiced or ?commanding'. (Káno)
(3) [Celegorm] Turkafinwë 'strong, powerful (in body)'. (Turko)
(4) [Curufin] Kurufinwë Fëanor's own name; given to this, his favourite son, because he alone showed in some degree the same temper and talents. He also resembled Fëanor very much in face. (Kurvo)
(5) [Caranthir] Morifinwë 'dark' - he was black-haired as his grandfather. (Moryo)
(6) [Amrod] Pityafinwë 'Little Finwë'. (Pityo)
(7) [Amras] Telufinwë 'Last Finwë'. (Telvo)
Their 'mother-names' are recorded (though never used in narrative) as:
(1) Maitimo 'well-shaped one': he was of beautiful bodily form. But he, and the youngest, inherited the rare red-brown hair of Nerdanel's kin. Her father had the epessë of rusco 'fox'. So Maitimo had as an epessë given by his brothers and other kin Russandol 'copper-top'.
(2) Makalaurë Of uncertain meaning. Usually interpreted (and said to have been a 'prophetic' mother-name) as 'forging gold'. If so, probably a poetic reference to his skill in harping, the sound of which was 'golden' (laurë was a word for golden light or colour, never used for the metal).
(3) Tyelkormo 'hasty-riser'. Quenya tyelka 'hasty'. Possibly in reference to his quick temper, and his habit of leaping up when suddenly angered.
(4) Atarinkë 'little father' - referring to his physical likeness to Fëanor, later found to be also seen in his mind.
(5) Carnistir 'red-face' - he was dark (brown) haired, but had the ruddy complexion of his mother.
(6) Ambarto
(7) Ambarussa
These two names of [the] twins (i-Wenyn) were evidently meant to begin similarly. Ambarussa 'top-russet' must have referred to hair: the first and last of Nerdanel's children had the reddish hair of her kin. Around the name Ambarto [> Umbarto] - which one might expect to begin with an element of the same sense as (7) - much legend and discussion gathered. The most authentic seems to be thus:
The two twins were both red-haired. Nerdanel gave them both the name Ambarussa - for they were much alike and remained so while they lived. When Fëanor begged that their names should at least be different Nerdanel looked strange, and after a while said: 'Then let one be called [Ambarto >] Umbarto, but which, time will decide.'
Fëanor was disturbed by this ominous name ('Fated'), and changed it to Ambarto - or in some versions thought Nerdanel had said Ambarto, using the same first element as in Ambarussa (sc. amba + Quenya arta 'exalted, lofty'). But Nerdanel said: 'Umbarto I spoke; yet do as you wish. It will make no difference.'
Later, as Fëanor became more and more fell and violent, and rebelled against the Valar, Nerdanel, after long endeavouring to change his mood, became estranged. (Her kin were devoted to Aule, who counselled her father to take no part in the rebellion. 'It will in the end only lead Fëanor and all your children to death.') She retired to her father's house; but when it became clear that Fëanor and his sons would leave Valinor for ever, she came to him before the host started on its northward march, and begged that Fëanor should leave her the two youngest, the twins, or one at least of them. He replied: 'Were you a true wife, as you had been till cozened by Aulë, you would keep all of them, for you would come with us. If you desert me, you desert also all of our children. For they are determined to go with their father.' Then Nerdanel was angry and she answered: 'You will not keep all of them. One at least will never set foot on Middle-earth.' 'Take your evil omens to the Valar who will delight in them,' said Fëanor. 'I defy them'. So they parted.
Now it is told how Fëanor stole the ships of the Teleri, and breaking faith with Fingolfin and with those faithful to him sailed away in them to Middle-earth, leaving the rest of his host to make their way on foot with great travail and loss. The ships were anchored off the shore, in the Firth of Drengist, and all the host of Fëanor went on land and camped there.
In the night Fëanor, filled with malice, aroused Curufin, and with him and a few of those most close to Fëanor in obedience he went to the ships and set them all aflame; and the dark sky was red as with a terrible dawn. All the camp was roused, and Fëanor returning said: 'Now at least I am certain that no faint-heart or traitor among you will be able to take back even one ship to the succour of Fingolfin and his folk.' But all save few were dismayed, because there were many things still aboard that they had not yet brought ashore, and the ships would have been useful for further journeying. They were still far north and had purposed to sail southward to some better haven.
In the morning the host was mustered, but of Fëanor's seven sons only six were to be found. Then Ambarussa (6) went pale with fear. 'Did you not then rouse Ambarussa my brother (whom you called Ambarto)?' he said. 'He would not come ashore to sleep (he said) in discomfort.' But it is thought (and no doubt Fëanor guessed this also) that it was in the mind of Ambarto to sail his ship back [?afterwards] and rejoin Nerdanel; for he had been much [?shocked] by the deed of his father.
'That ship I destroyed first,' said Fëanor (hiding his own dismay). 'Then rightly you gave the name to the youngest of your children,' said Ambarussa, 'and Umbarto "the Fated" was its true form. Fell and fey are you become.' And after that no one dared speak again to Fëanor of this matter.
For the mention, in a note on the typescript of the Annals of Aman, of the story of the death of one of the twin-brothers in the burning of the ships at Losgar see X.128, §162; and for the account of Nerdanel and her estrangement from Fëanor in late rewriting of the Quenta Silmarillion see X.272-3, 279.
The material concerning the names of the twin brothers is confused and confusing, clearly because it was only as my father worked on them that the strange and sinister story emerged. It seems to me very probable that when he gave the mother-names (6) Ambarto and (7) Ambarussa it had not yet arisen, nor yet when he began the note that follows the list of the mother-names, saying that 'the first and last of Nerdanel's children had the reddish hair of her kin' - that is Maedros with his nickname Russandol and the younger of the twins Ambarussa (Amras).
The story first emerged, I think, with the words The most authentic seems to be thus: The two twins were both red-haired. Nerdanel gave them both the name Ambarussa ...' It was then, no doubt, that my father changed the name Ambarto to Umbarto in the list and reversed the names of the twin brothers (see note 62), so that Ambarussa becomes the elder of the two and Ambarto/Umbarto the youngest of Fëanor's children, as he is in the legend told here.
At the head of the first page of this text concerning the names of the Sons of Fëanor my father wrote, when the story was now in being:
All the sons save Curufin preferred their mother-names and were ever afterwards remembered by them. The twins called each other Ambarussa. The name Ambarto/Umbarto was used by [?no one]. The twins remained alike, but the elder grew darker in hair, and was more dear to his father. After childhood they [?were not to be] confused. ...
Thus in the legend 'Ambarussa (6)' asked Fëanor whether he had not roused 'Ambarussa my brother' before setting fire to the ships.

[BlackCaptain]

Woah.

:eek:

That was the longest quote I've ever seen

[Lasgalen]

Who is the husband of Lëa-vinya?

[Ithrynluin]

Tulkas (Lea-vinya = Nessa).

What are the Dwarven, Quenya, Sindarin and Common Speech names for the proudest of the 7 Dwarf races?

[Lantarion]

I don't know, I don't have HoME12 (of wherever the asnwer is): but would the proudest race be that of Durin?

[Aulë]

HoME12 - X Of Dwarves And Men: Relations of the Longbeard Dwarves and Men
For the Longbeards, though the proudest of the seven kindreds, were also the wisest and the most farseeing.
So the race is Longbeards.

Common Tongue: Longbeards
Khuzdul: Sigin-tarâg
Quenya: Andafangar
Sindarin: Anfangrim

[Lantarion]

Your turn then.

[Aulë]

Who is Banzîr?

[Lantarion]

A dwarf? :D

[Elendil3119]

Samwise Gamgee?

[Aulë]

Yep, Elendil is correct

[Elendil3119]

Who was the wife of Turgon and where did she die?

[Anamatar IV]

Elenwe, she died crossing the Helcaraxe?

[Elendil3119]

Yep, that is correct. :)

[Anamatar IV]

What did Bilbo think of the night before (the unexpected party) when he woke up and what made him think otherwise?

[Lantarion]

From the Hobbit: Roast Mutton
Up jumped Bilbo, and putting on his dressing-gown went into the dining-room. There he saw nobody, but all the signs of a large and hurried breakfast. There was a fearful mess in the room, and piles of unwashed crocks in the kitchen. Nearly every pot and pan he possessed seemed to have been used. The washing-up was so dismally real that Bilbo was forced to believe the party of the night before had not been part of his bad dreams, as he had rather hoped. Indeed he was really relieved after all to think that they had all gone without him, and without bothering to wake him up ("but with never and thank-you" he thought); and yet in a way he could not help feeling just a trifle dissapointed. The feeling surprised him.
He thought (or hoped/assumed) that the night before had ben a part of his bad dreams, and the dirty dishes made him think otherwise. :)

What does Ottor Wæfre's wife's name mean in Old English (roughly)?

[Lantarion]

'roughly' = I will accept only two answers..
:)

[Inderjit S]

Ottor Wæfre's was Eriol's former name and it signifies Waefre, which is Old English for Wandering, restless (Similar to Wayfarer which has a similar meaning). He changed his name from Ottor to Wæfre.

[Eriol]

He asked for the name of my wife, not my former name.

;)

I wish I knew...

[Lantarion]

Originally posted by the magnificent, illustrious, marvelous Lantarion
What does Ottor Wæfre's wife's name mean in Old English (roughly)?
I even accidentally gave you a mild hint on MSN! Haw haw. :D
Ok, hint: it's in BoLT1.

[Nóm]

Cwen, it is 'woman, or 'wife'?

[Lantarion]

Ka-ching! :D (It is both :))
Your turn.

[Nóm]

I forgot to check back.

Which art form do the Eldar most love, according to Pengolodh?

[BlackCaptain]

Singing?

[Nóm]

No, but a good guess, I think.

[Eriol]

Studying Languages (I don't know the right word for it)

[BlackCaptain]

The Harp?

[Nóm]

On the right track Eriol, but not quite what I am looking for.

[Lasgalen]

Giving things names? Making words to better describe things?

[Nóm]

Correct, Lasgalen.


'For the Eldar the making of speech is the oldest of the arts and the most beloved.'

[Lasgalen]

Who is the spouse of Bridhil?

[Lantarion]

Beats me.

[Nóm]

Manwe... or do you want Man or Manweg? :D

[Beleg]

Where does Bridhill occur?

[Nóm]

I know it from the Sil Sketch in Shaping of Middle-earth, and there CT says it is used in some of the Lays - so HoME III(which I have not read). Found out about Man and Manweg being gnomish for Manwe when I checked the BoLT appendix (don't recall seeing it in S or Q) just a few minutes ago to see what his gnomish name was... since Bridhil and Bredhil are the gnomish forms of Varda. Bridhil is also given in BoLT appendice.

In Noldorinwa Tim-Bridhil is given. :)

[Lasgalen]

Nóm, you are correct. (Manwe, Man, Manweg- all are acceptable)

[Nóm]

Who was the father of Findobar?

[TaranisCain]

Findobar was the son of Fingon...

[TaranisCain]

Who's mother secretly named him Lomion (a Queyna name)?
(The name I am looking for is the name given to him by his father, it is Sindarin)

[Lasgalen]

Maeglin's mother secretly named him Lomion.


How many tongues of fire did Glaurung have?

[TaranisCain]

Glaurung had seven tongues of fire...WHeeww!!!

[TaranisCain]

How did Fingolfin die and in what year was that?

[Nóm]

First Age 456, he was crushed by Morgoth.



What name did the dwarves have for their own special sign language?

[Elendil3119]

Khuzdul?

[TaranisCain]

Acctually, citing the Sil, I think that the answer is the Cirth...

[Elendil3119]

Whoops, I misread the question...:o

[BlackCaptain]

Me too... Thanks for pointing that out

And I'm gona play off a technicality which will really come back and bite TaranisCain in the bum...

the Cirith, not the Cirth.

But then again I could just have false hope in being correct, what with it being 11 and a half o'clock over here...

[Nóm]

I was not looking for cirth, though I would accept it due to the wording of my question, if not for the fact that the dwarves are not the only ones to use it and cirth is not a dwarvish word. I specificied "their own special" and asked for the dwarvish word.


The sign language is a body language, not runes.

[Nóm]

Anyone know what the dwarves call their special language of gestures?

[Tar-Elenion]

Still no answers? ;)

Iglishmek.

In Sindarin saying what word was considered the gravest 'insult'?

[Nóm]

Morben?

[Tar-Elenion]

No. The word would be directed at a person.

[Nóm]

Must be "ego!"?

[Tar-Elenion]

Correct.

[Nóm]

Tolkien said the names Balin and Fundin being used in the visual representation of Balin's Tomb is "absurd" for what reason?

[Aulë]

Because Balin and Fundin were not the Dwarves' real names, they were just 'outer names' given to them by Men. Names such as Balin would not have appeared in any inscription using actual Khuzdul.

[Nóm]

Not quite, Aule.

The dwarves' mannish/outer names would have been used in the inscription rather than their secret dwarf names.

You're on the right track though.

[Aulë]

*Does some research*

Ah, here we go: (Straight out of PoME) Tolkien's point was that Balin and Fundin are actual Old Norse names used as 'translations' for the purpose of The Lord of the Rings. What he should have done in a visual representation of the tomb-inscription was to use, not of course their 'inner' names in Khuzdul, but their real 'outer' names which in the text of The Lord of the Rings are represented by Balin and Fundin.

[Aulë]

OK, What was Fundin's draft name?

[FoolOfATook]

Since Aule's question has been floating around for a few days, I'll go ahead and answer it, and try to keep the game moving.

Balin's father (Fundin in The Hobbit as in LR) is here surprisingly Burin; this dwarf-name (found in Old Norse) had previously been given to Balin's son, in the first drafts for "The Council of Elrond" (pp. 395, 397), before he was replaced by Gimli son of Gloin (p. 400)
-The Return Of The Shadow, "The Mines of Moria"

New question, and probably too easy. (I don't post answers to trivia threads very often because I don't like coming up with new questions, perhaps because I spent so much time doing it for the ranking tests in the Guild of Tolkienology ;))

In The Red Book, what poem is noted as having "a hand had scrawled at its head Frodos Dreme."?

[Aulë]

The Sea-Bell (No. 15), from The Adventures of Tom Bombadil.

To which of the Valar did Sauron belong before being corrupted by Melkor?

[Queen Arwen]

Aule! That question is too hard. Did I answer, or address the member Aule? :D ;)

Who was Elrond's youngest child?

[Lasgalen]

Arwen.

What was Mirkwood renamed after its cleansing?

[Lantarion]

Eryn Lasgalen

What are Aragorn's last recorded words before he finds the sapling?

[Starbrow]

"The Tree in the Court of the Fountain is still withered and barren. When shall I see a sign that it will ever be otherwise?"

I'm new here, but if I understand correctly, I get to post a question. I hope this one hasn't been asked before, but I don't care to read through all the previous pages. Anyways, here goes.

What was unique about the palantir of Osgiliath?

[Beleg]

It was the Master Plantiri of the South.

[Starbrow]

You are correct!

[Lantarion]

Beleg, yurrup!

[Beleg]

What is the Mound of the first sorrow?

[Lantarion]

The grave of Serindë in Aman, as I recall. Wait was it Serindë? And that wasn't her actual name... Agh, anyway you know what I mean. :D

[Beleg]

Wrong. :o

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by Beleg
What is the Mound of the first sorrow? Cûm a Gumlaith where Fëanor's father was buried.

[Beleg]

Yes go on.
The name of Serinde wasn't contrived till much latter.

[Lasgalen]

I am not good at thinking up questions. :(

Name the sisters of Fingolfin.

[Lantarion]

Great question!! Damn hard..
Is it Findis, Finvain and Faniel?

[Lasgalen]

Correct. Although Findis, Faniel, and Írimë would also be acceptable (depending on which volume of HoME you were using ;) )

[Lantarion]

Yay! :)

Allrightythen.. Give three earlier names of Finrod Felagund (later replaced).

[Inderjit S]

Inglor, Felagoth and Finrod Inglor.

Finwe had two daughters, not three, btw. Faniel was dropped. ;)

[Lantarion]

Good Inder, but I was actually looking for three versions of his title, donned by a prestegious member of TTF... ;)

[BlackCaptain]

Nom, Gnome... and...Confusicated?:rolleyes: :D

[Nóm]

Nóm (never replaced that I know of?)

Widris, maybe Gnome and....?

Still not sure exactly what you are asking for.

going out on a limb here... Noldo, Golodh?

[Lantarion]

Nope, keep trying! :D
I'll give a hint if poeple still don't find it.

[Nóm]

But it is three versions of Nóm which were replaced, that you want?

You're not wanting Felagund's old english name, right?

Whatever you are looking for I do not know of it, I think.

I guess a hint is needed.

[Aulë]

Nóm, Nómin and Gnome?

[Lantarion]

Hmph, well it seems the question was a bit unspecific.. But it doesn't matter. I was actually looking for Sômar, Widris and Vidri.. Nóm (the member this time :rolleyes:) was so close I'm going to give the next question to her.. Aulë was also close, but Nómin was the name of the Noldor, not Finrod. :)

[Wonko The Sane]

Wait...before we move on will you explain the question and the answer to me?
Sorry...I read this thread but only post if I know the answer, which for the most part I don't, only this time I'd like more info on this cos it's kind of confusing...

[Lantarion]

Hehe, yeah sorry it was my fault, I worded it weirdly. :p
I was looking for three names which Tolkien used as Finrod's title, before finally using 'Nóm'. The answer can only be found somewhere in the HoME series (in this case Volume 11), and Nóm (the member ;)) got at least one right in relation to the ones I was looking for (Widris).

This thread has slowly turned into a HoME Trivia base, because all the 'easier' questions have alreayd been answered.
All clear? :)

[Nóm]

What "is very good and like the drinking of wine"?

[Lantarion]

Er.. the music of the Solosimpi? :rolleyes:

[Nóm]

Solosimpi? What is that... some Middle-earth gorgon? ;)

Seriously now... no that is not the answer I was looking for. Of course if it says that about the music of the Solosimpi, I'll accept it. If so, just tell me where it is said. :)

Here's a clue, it is said by a character who in a much later writing says something very much like it though not word for word. PS: I am drinking wine tonight... makes me think of wondering along the sea ;).

I think this moved to HoME questions in part because there is now a Silmarillion trivia thread over there in the Silmarillion forum and a Hobbit trivia. Another reason could be that HoME trivia questions are much easier to think of since you can pull anything out of a less known text and ask about it, and most people will have to look it up. But anyone with UT can take a good guess at my answer here. ;) I'm here to try to get folks to look up stuff about things that I think are cool... like Tuor, for example! ;)

Now the race is on!?

[Aulë]

The West Wind?

Of Tuor And His Coming To Gondolin
The next morning he heard the same voice above his head, and looking up he saw three great white birds beating down the ravine against the westerly wind, and their strong wings shone in the new-risen sun, and as they passed over him they wailed aloud. Thus for the first time he beheld the great gulls, beloved of the Teleri. Then Tuor arose to follow them, and so that he might better mark whither they flew he climbed the cliff upon his left hand, and stood upon the top, and felt a great wind out of the West rush against his face; and his hair streamed from his head. And he drank deep of that new air, and said: "This uplifts the heart like the drinking of cool wine!" But he knew not that the wind came fresh from the Great Sea.

[Aulë]

What are the two most binding things that the Incarnate must do with the life of their hröa?

[Nóm]

Cool Aule... was using the BoLT though... to add spice. :)

Let's see here....

Do you mean things which will cause an Ainu to become incarnate? and if so... I'll toss out evil deeds and hmm, use of the body to do things necessary to incarnate life... such as procreation, and probably eating and whatnot.

Does that cut it?

[Aulë]

Yeah, that'll do.

Ósanwe-kenta
Pengolodh also cites the opinion that if a "spirit" (that is, one of those not embodied by creation) uses a hröa for the furtherance of its personal purposes, or (still more) for the enjoyment of bodily faculties, it finds it increasingly difficult to operate without the hröa. The things that are most binding are those that in the Incarnate have to do with the life of the hröa itself, its sustenance and its propagation. Thus eating and drinking are binding, but not the delight in beauty of sound or form. Most binding is begetting or conceiving.

[Nóm]

Aule has read Osanwe-kenta?... hehe! Well I couldn't resist a question associated with Pengolodh... but now I have the task of thinking up a question. Darnit!

What is said to have had the scent of honey of many flowers?

[Aulë]

LotR
When they came to make their meal, they found that the Elves had filled their bottles with a clear drink, pale golden in colour: it had the scent of a honey made of many flowers, and was wonderfully refreshing.

Miruvor :)



Where were earthquakes known to occur?

[Wonko The Sane]

Thanks for the explanation guys! :) I'll step back now and watch...
I know maybe 3 things about HoME...and none of them are difficult enough for this quiz. ;)

[Inderjit S]

Anfuaglith or around about Angband?

[Aulë]

Not the answer I was looking for...
But if you can provide a quote that validifies your answer, I'll accept it.

[Starflower]

Mordor ?


:)


Starflower

[Aulë]

Hmmm.
I think you lot need a hint...

It is told in either LotR or The Hobbit.

[Starflower]

how about this one :

After the Dwarves were forced out of the Lonely Mountain by Smaug, many roads in Wilderland fell into disuse or were damaged or destroyed by floods, earthquakes, and encroaching marshland



Staflower

[Aulë]

Yes
'The Lonely Mountain' was the answer I was looking for. :)

[Starflower]

gosh

only took me two days


so I get to ask something again...


hmmm



what were the proposals put forward at the Council of Elrond about what to do with the Ring?


I'm looking for 1) how many were put forward and 2) what were they and 3) ideally, who suggested what ?




that should keep the little grey cells working for a bit




Starflower

[Inderjit S]

1. Should be sent to Aman. Glorfindel.

2. Give it to Tom Bombadil. Erestor.

3. Cast it into the Sea. Glorfindel.

4. It must be destroyed. Elrond outs it forward, though discusses by Gandalf and Frodo and others aware of plan.

5. To use it against Sauron in war. Boromir.

[Starflower]

*bowing* please go ahead



Starflower

[Lantarion]

Ahem, Inder..? :rolleyes:

[Inderjit S]

Sorry, been busy lately and totally forgot. Anyway a easy one for you, what is the link between the words 'Go-Hilleg' and 'Nunatani'?

[Aulë]

Dunedain?

[Inderjit S]

Correct

[Aulë]

OK,

Which Númenórean's name has a meaning that is two words long which are homonym's of each other?

[Lantarion]

Er.. These are Númenórean Kings and Queens we're talking about, right? And a homonym is a word which looks exactly like another word but means something different (trunk: a storage case; a part of an elephant's body)?
'Cause I skimmed over the Númenórean Rulers and didn't see any homonyms.. But I didn't translate them very well.. I'll get back to you. :p

[Aulë]

I'll give you a hint: this person was never a King or Queen. :)
And a homonym doesn't have to be spelt the same. It just has to sound the same.

[BlackCaptain]

Elendil? I dont think he ever was king...

[Aulë]

Elendil means 'Elf-friend'...which is not a homonym...
Keep guessing.

[Starflower]

ok, I have racked my brains for a week now... only one I can come up with, who was not a king or queen is Vardamir Nolimon

[Aulë]

Vardamir = sublime jewel
So that's not the answer...


I suppose you'd like another hint?
OK- this person lived for a time on Middle Earth.

[Starflower]

and this was a NUmenorean person ? gosh.... back to the books then

[Aulë]

It's actually quite easy.
I'm surprised that noone has got it yet. :)

[Starflower]

is this a person actually born in Numenor ? or is it someone of Numenorean blood ? i am at my wits' end I have to confess...

[Aulë]

He was born in Numenor.

No more hints ;)

[Starflower]

I give up
someone wiser than me answer...

[Celebthôl]

BAH?! Hmmm Ar-Pharazon?

[Aulë]

Ar-Pharazon = Golden King

Not a homonym.
Also, he was a king (hence the 'Ar' ;) ).

[Starflower]

ok i confess i have no idea, but let me try and recap the situation :

this person is Numenorean
not a king or queen
two part name in whic both parts are homonyms of each other
lived for a time in Middle-earth

only ones i find with two part names are the kings.... it cannot be Elendil, Isildur or Anarion since they were all kings... their sons were kings.
you said it's easy ? I have no idea, none what so ever.... want to provide us with the answer and where it is found ?

[Aulë]

Anárion = Sun-son

He was never a King, since he died before Elendil ;)
There's the answer.

[Starflower]

anarion is not a two part name.... you tricked us :(

[Aulë]

Nope

Originally posted by me[/i]
Which Númenórean's name has a meaning that is two words long which are homonym's of each other?

I said that the meaning "sun-sun" was two words long (which it was).

[Starflower]

ah... it's the dyslexia kicking in again ....

go ahead, ask another , we'll see how long it takes this time for us to guess the answer :D

[Aulë]

What inspired Feanor to create the Silmarils?

[Starbrow]

If I remember correctly, while Feanor was watching the mingling of the lights of the Two Trees, he had a premonition that the light would be lost and he sought a way to preserve it.

[Ithrynluin]

The hair of Galadriel.

[Aulë]

Yeah, I'll give you that ithrynluin.
It was actually 'the saying that the light of the Two Trees of Valinor had been snared in Galadriel's hair'. Which gave him the idea that the light of the Two Trees could be captured in a sense.

You're up.

[Ithrynluin]

What is a morrow gift?

[Starflower]

i don't know how it joins with Tolkien;s works, but isn't it a gift the groom gives to the bride on the morning after the wedding ( or even on the day itself)

[Ithrynluin]

That is correct. If you would just say which race had this custom? (I think it wasn't a custom among all peoples of ME, anyway).

[Starflower]

would it be Elves ? I really have no idea, just guessing ?

[Ithrynluin]

Nay, it is Men, but your first answer hit the nail on the head, so I'll stop nit-picking. :)

[Starflower]

ooooooh!
thank you !



What did Varda make the stars out of ?

[Inderjit S]

The Silver dews from the vats of Telperion.

[Starflower]

:) go ahead

[Inderjit S]

Which place in the Shire was said to have a Quarry?

[Starflower]

"old stone quarries of Scary"
so, that would be Hills of Scary in the East Farthing

The answer you were looking for ?

[Inderjit S]

It is correct. Continue.

[Starflower]

who were the Mírdain ?

[Aulë]

The jewel-smiths of Eregion

[Starflower]

go ahead :)
give us a tough one to ponder

[Aulë]

Today is the 20th of October.

What is the equivalent date in the Shire, Bree, Numenor and Rivendell calendars?

[Starflower]

ok :
Shire : 29th WInterfilth or 19th October in the adjusted calendar

Bree : 29 Wintring

Numenor : 29 Narquelie

Rivendell : 23 Quelle


yeay!

[Aulë]

Well I'll be damned- you got it right first time :p

You're up. :D

[Starflower]

:)

How did the sons of Feanor perish ? Please list each
:)

[Inderjit S]

Celegorm, Curufin and Caranthir-slain in raid on Doriath. (Second Kinslaying.)

Amrod and Amras-Slain in Third Kinslaying.

Maedhros-Jumped into fiery fissure with the Silmaril.

Maglor-Wandered around singing, didn't actually 'perish'.

Also in the 'Shibboleth of Feanor' (HoME 12) we learn that Amras was killed when he was burnt in the ships at Losgar. Only Amrod was slain in the Third Kinslaying.

[Starflower]

excellent as always, please go on

[Inderjit S]

Who were said to have a tengwesta of gestures?

[Starflower]

i'm not really sure what you mean by "tengwesta of gestures" but a tengwesta is a system of codes or signs, used by Eldar , specifically in Quenya.

[Inderjit S]

Not the answer I was looking for.
Maybe I should rephrase my question, a tengwesta of gestures that was a development and improvment of the Eldarin one.

[Starflower]

I still don't really understand what you're looking for...maybe someone else will :(

[Ithrynluin]

The Dwarves.

Who is said to have had better eye-sight than even the Elves?

[Starflower]

The Eagles.
Could you explain to me the previous question, what exactly was wanted?

[Ithrynluin]

Are the Eagles explicitly said to have better eyesight than the Elves, or is this just a logical guess? That is NOT the answer I'm looking for.

Could you explain to me the previous question, what exactly was wanted?

The History of Middle-Earth XI: The War of the Jewels; Quendi and Eldar
The Dwarves indeed, as later became known, had a far more elaborate and organized system. They possessed in fact a
secondary tengwesta of gestures, concurrent with their spoken language, which they began to learn almost as soon as they began learning to speak. It should be said rather that they possessed a number of such gesture-codes; for unlike their spoken language, which remained astonishingly uniform and unchanged both in time and in locality, their gesture-codes varied greatly from community to community. And they were differently employed. Not for communication at a distance, for the Dwarves were short-sighted, but for secrecy and the exclusion of strangers.

[Starflower]

thanks for the clarification...
I thought the Eagles of Manwe would have qualified, after all they kept watch on the Encircling Mountains around Gondolin, but as that's not what you were looking for, I say hobbits

[Ithrynluin]

Hobbits having keener sight than Elves? :eek:

Eagles could well be the answer otherwise, but I don't think it is anywhere explicitly said that theirs is better than that of the Elves.

P.S.: I am not looking for a race, but an individual.

[Inderjit S]

Hobbits having keener sight than Elves?

Frodo had keener night-sight then anyone else in the Fellowship, apart from Gandalf. ;) (Thats not the answer BTW.)

Glaurung?

[Ithrynluin]

Glaurung is the correct answer.

[Gandalf White]

Frodo had keener night-sight then anyone else in the Fellowship, apart from Gandalf. But wasn't that because he possessed the Ring? Or is that what the ';) ' meant, and I'm just being daft?

[Inderjit S]

What were the nick-names of Magor?

[Aulë]

How many names are you wanting?

I know he was called 'The Sword'...

[Inderjit S]

Two, please.

[Starflower]

i have looked everywhere, and the only entry about Magor I found is this :
Magor - Son of Malach Aradan; leader of the Men of the following of Marach who entered West Beleriand. the name may be Mannish [?Anglo Saxon mago kinsman, warrior?], although the early lexicons offer: Makar - Quenya 'God of battle' ... [Noldorin] Magorn; the old root is MAKA, with mak- 'slay', makil 'sword'; see MAK- sword [Etym]; also see GOR- violence [Etym]; 'valiant warrior'
so , he is called "the sword", but i cannot find another one,unless it would be "valiant " ?

[Inderjit S]

No.

[Lantarion]

Well does anybody know..? :confused:

[Lasgalen]

The only other name I have ever heard is "the sword" and you already said that is not the answer. May we have a hint?

[Lantarion]

I say give us the answer, this has gone far enough.

[Eru]

Perhaps you are looking for Magor: "Swordsman"?

[Inderjit S]

Dagorlind-Singer in Battle was his other name. And 'The Sword' which was given earlier.

New Question:

Who had greater night-eyes then most Men?

[Aulë]

Dwarves

[Starflower]

i asume you are asking for a person, Aragorn.

[Inderjit S]

I'm asking for a particulaur peoples. (i.e a race of Men.)

[The_Swordmaster]

Elves?

[Eriol]

The Drúedain.

[Inderjit S]

Nay.

[Celebthôl]

Orcs?

[Aulë]

Longbeards?

[Lasgalen]

Numenoreans?

[Inderjit S]

Nope.

[Celebthôl]

Gollum! :D

[Inderjit S]

No.

[Aulë]

The Men of Brethil?

[Eriol]

Wargs?

Wolves?

Vampires?

Dracula?

:D

[Starflower]

hobbits ?

[Celebthôl]

Fell beast?

[Inderjit S]

Nay.

[Starflower]

House of Hador ?