Quiz/Trivia

[Celebthôl]

Silvan Elves?

[Aulë]

The Haradrim?

[Lasgalen]

Steve Austin aka the bionic man?
the Easterlings?

[Inderjit S]

No-do you want me to reveal the answer?

[Aulë]

How about a few hints?

[Inderjit S]

How about not? ;)

O.K .It's right under your nose, the air that you breath. (How's THAT for criptic.)

[Celebthôl]

Hmmmm, is it not Manwë?

[Aulë]

I thought that too, but Inder said that it was a group of people (ie, a race of Men).

Black Númenoreans?

[Inderjit S]

No.

[Celebthôl]

Moria orcs?

[Aulë]

Fire Drakes?

[Lantarion]

O.K .It's right under your nose, the air that you breathe
What the hell kind of a hint is that?! :D
Cryptic, now that's the understatement of the year. :rolleyes:

Ok, err.. the Haradrim? Or was that said already?

[Celebthôl]

Oxygen? Carbon Dioxide? Argon? AIR!?

[Aulë]

Oxygen-Elves? :p

Eagles?

[Inderjit S]

Incorrect.

[Aulë]

How about another hint?

The Dunlandings?

[Beleg]

Hobbits?

[Inderjit S]

The amount of bleedin' guesses you have had should be hint enough!
Still no right answer.

[Aulë]

Are we getting close?


The Beornings.

[Celebthôl]

Nazgul?

[Starflower]

men of Dale ?

[Lantarion]

Toby, the secret dwarf-butler of Tom Bombadil!

[Aulë]

Steve Irwin! :D
"Crikey!" ;)


How about the Avari?
Or the Nandor?
Or the Sindar?
Or the Teleri?
Or the Noldor?
Or the Vanyar?


*throws random guesses everywhere*

[Inderjit S]

Crikey! You've got it it is Steve Irwin!

[Inderjit S]

Anyhow, I've had enough of this.

The answer is the Rohhirim, according to Ugluk. My cryptic clue was in the sentence in which he talks about the superiority of the Rohhirim's night eye-sight, and it goes:

'There's only one thing those maggots can do: they can see like gimlets in the dark. But these Whiteskins have better night-eyes than most Men, from all I've heard; and don't forget their horses! They can see the night-breeze, or so it's said.

[Lantarion]

My god, pretty much the only one we didn't list. :D :p

[Niniel]

So can Indy post a new question? One that isn't as hard as the last one, please?

[Lantarion]

Haha, that was a hopelessly easy question; we've all just got black holes for memories (well I do anyway). :D

[Inderjit S]

What do Dior, Elrond and Faramir have in common?

[Aulë]

Which Dior are you referring to?
Dior of Gondor?
or Dior of Doriath?

And which Faramir are you referring to?
Faramir son of Denethor II?
or Faramir son of Ondoher?

[Lantarion]

Probably Dior of Doriath and Faramir son of Denethor II...
He would have specified otherwise if they weren't, I think. ;)

But hmm, I need some time to think this through. :o

[Celebthôl]

They were all goodies.
They were all male.
They were all had human blood within them.

;) :D

[Inderjit S]

As Lantarion states, it is the more famous of the Dior and Faramir's, if it was any other I would have said so.

[Starbrow]

Is it that they all have both human and elven blood?

[Lantarion]

Does it have something to do with their relationship to their fathers?

[Inderjit S]

Nope.

[Lasgalen]

They all have an 'r' in their names.

How about a hint.

[Celebthôl]

They all have human children?

[Inderjit S]

No.

Hint? "Oh father why have you named me so?"

[Celebthôl]

They all had a father/brother that they disagreed with? I.e Elros for Elrond, Denethor for Faramir and I have no idea who the bad person for Dior was. . .

[Lantarion]

No, I asked Inder before if it was about their fathers and he said it wasn't...
Hmph.

[Celebthôl]

They were both called weak?

[Inderjit S]

There is not both in three people. ;)

[Celebthôl]

Originally posted by Inderjit S
There is not both in three people. ;)

Haha! Alright smarty-pants :D

They were all called week? :p

[Inderjit S]

Since I don't want to keep on posting "no" I'll make a post when someone gets the right answer, or you grovel for the answer and I make it three unanswerable questions in a row. *laughs a fey laugh ;) *

Oh, and your answer is wrong BTW.

[Celebthôl]

Hahahaahahhahahahahahahah!!!!! :D

Okay, thats sounds fair. . . what if we grovel for hints? ;)

Oh oh oh oh!!! They all have an "R" in the spelling of their names? :D

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by Celebthôl

Oh oh oh oh!!! They all have an "R" in the spelling of their names? :D I already tried that one. Inder wouldn't accept it, although I can verify that it is true. Using quotes from the book even. :D ;)

I am making a wild stab. They all are of noble blood, yet none where called 'king'. (I don't recall Dior being called a king, only Thingol's heir).

[Maegnas]

If Celebthol is right Inderjit s, than I would like to post something? How old was Aragorn when he died????? :rolleyes:

[Starflower]

you're very eager Maegnas, but normally whoever gets the question right gets the next question, and we don't have Inder's approval yet... so can you wait your turn dear

[Inderjit S]

No there are no correct answers as of yet.

[Maegnas]

Is it all of there offspring have strange names.

[Celebthôl]

At least one of their children was human

OR

Thier daughters were all human.

[Niniel]

Maybe you should give us the answer, cause I don't think anyone will find it soon.

[Inderjit S]

All had, at one point or another a son named Elboron ('Quenta Silmarillion 4;5, one of Dior's sons was called Elboron, HoME 8; War of the Ring Elladan'’s early name was Elboron and in the 'Heirs of Elendil' (HoME 12) we learn that Faramir’s son was named Elboron.

NEW QUESTION: What would the Elves of Loeg Ningloron have called themselves in their own tongue?

[KellGreenleaf]

"Pools of the Golden Waterflowers", Elvish name for Gladden. Thats my guess. I dont know :)

[Inderjit S]

No.

[Nóm]

You lookin for penni?

PS: Excellent passage choice for your new signature ;).

[Inderjit S]

Correct.

And I knew, that like all right thinking folk, you'd like the sig. ;)

[Nóm]

What is the name of the fountain that exists thanks to Luthien's tears?


PS: Inder... I know you don't check PMs often, but you have one from me.

[Nóm]

Succeeded in stumping Inderjit. ;)

[Starflower]

i did know that there existed a fountain thanks to Luthien's tears... so anyone else have any ideas ?

[Lantarion]

Nóm, you fool! You have the answer in your signature! :D

Eithel Ninui, but I don't want credit for this answer as I didn't remember it myself.. :rolleyes:

[Starflower]

can you tell me where that passage is found in the books ? i see it now in the signature, but i never seen it before anywhere...

[Lantarion]

Well if I remembered where exactly the quote is, I wouldn't have needed to accidentally cheat through Nóm's sig! :D
It's in Of Beren and Lúthien, I assume, but I just have no recollection of this 'spring' of her tears.

[Inderjit S]

HoME 4 *somwhere* ;) (In the Beren and Lúthien part maybe.)

[Nóm]

Don't be too quick to call me a fool! :D It was no accident that the answer was in my signature before anyone had answered it. I did it for private amusement, and to see who would get it first.


starflower, I put it in my signature just minutes before I made my last post in this thread. Which means it was there when you answered that you did not know the answer. :D


The passage is found in CT's commentary to the Beren and Luthien chapter of the Quenta Silmarillion, HoME 5. He says it should not have been omitted from the chapter found in The Silmarillion.

[Lantarion]

Ah, well no wonder I didn't recall it.. :rolleyes: ;)
Haha and I meant 'fool' much in the same way as Gandalf did when pointing out to Aragorn that his zipper was open on a certain busted bridge, inside a mountain somewhere.. :D
Damn those HoME questions! I'll have to wish for Father Christmas to bring me some volumes! ;)

So who's up now?

[Nóm]

I only asked it to stump Inderjit :D

I think you should go next Lantarion.

[Lantarion]

Well.. Ok.
But I'm forcing myself to ask a HoME question, which is pretty dumb because I've only read BoLT1. :p But here goes.

Which three people are named of those present when the Tale of Tinúviel is told?

[Earwen]

East and slightly south.

[BlackCaptain]

East and slightly south.? Haha

Is Eriol one of them?

[Inderjit S]

Eriol Ælfwine, Vëannë and Ausir.

[Lantarion]

Absolutely right Inder (why am I not surprised in the least).. :D

[Starflower]

Indy darling, can you post a question that is not in the HoME... it would be fun to participate in this , but I can't get my hands on the History books so I never know the answers :(

[Úlairi]

How many years did Belecthor II live? Sorry to take over here, just thought I'd put this one in.

[BlackCaptain]

I know it was over 100, but besides that I can't give an exact age...

I'm gona say 102?

[Úlairi]

Wrong, sorry.

[BlackCaptain]

103! :D (This is bound to work sooner or later)

Hot or cold? are you allowed to answer that?lolhaha

[Úlairi]

Wrong, but getting warmer. But don't count, please!

[BlackCaptain]

Ok, I'm gonna take one last wild guess of 108 then go and actualy try and find the answer... I couldnt find it in the Appendixes, perhaps I have to look more... I doubt it'd be in the alkalabeth...

Oh well.. the search goes ever on and on

[Úlairi]

Wrong, go take a loook. ;)

[BlackCaptain]

Argh where could it be found? Can you share that? Maybe a lesser hint? Pretty please with a poisoned black cherry of death on top? Ulairus to Ulairus??:D:D

[Lantarion]

LOL BC! :D
I think would actually be Úlair in singular form.. :p A bit lame, but there you go. :D

But yeah I think you should just forfeit the answer.. This is apparently a HoME question, which we saplings of Tolkiendili are mere novices of. :rolleyes: (I thought that was a rather well-constructed sentence, don't you? :D)

[Úlairi]

Hehehe Lanty. The answer is 111. What is the Illuin and Ormal?

[BlackCaptain]

Well Lantarion, I'm currently in panic mode magnus with my latin exams coming up, and I just figured I'd give the Nomnitivus Singular Masculine ending at the end there... haha

And weren't they the great lamps?

[Úlairi]

Indeed BC! It's your turn!

[Lantarion]

Haha! Good for you BC (that you're learning Latin) and good luck (with the actual test). :D
Aye yeh'r up.

[BlackCaptain]

What were all the metals used in the making of Angainor?

[Lantarion]

Copper, silver, tin, lead, iron and gold (tilkal).
:)

[BlackCaptain]

Well Tikal was a 7th 'magical' metal, so i'll give it to you. You're up Lantarion

[Lantarion]

Give four different names for the Dwarves.
(Really easy, but I couldn't think of anything :D)

[BlackCaptain]

Dwarves, Stunted Folk, Naugrim, Nauglath.

I'll try to think of a question that's not in Bolt1, cuz those can be inacurate...

[Úlairi]

*gnaws fingers from suspense* ;)

[Nóm]

LOL BC! :D
I think would actually be Úlair in singular form.. :p A bit lame, but there you go. :D


Why not Ulaire, o fellow Tolkiendil? :D

[Úlairi]

Funny, I was going to start a thread on the etymology on my name. I think it is Úlairë, which would imply 'evil-summer'. Hmmm... *ponders*

[Lantarion]

Why not Ulaire, o fellow Tolkiendil? :D
*hits self on head with the flat of Gurthang*
Of course it would be, dammit.. I was thinking in Sindarin terms. :p Another embarrassing moment for me, I think I'll kill myself. :D
j/k

BC, I haven't seen the from 'Nauglath' before.. It could be a word for the Dwarves but I don't know.
And I won't acept 'Dwarves' as one of the asnwers, that's just silly. :D

[Starflower]

well if BC's was not correct here's my try :
Gonhirrim,Khazad, Children of Aule, Naugrim

[Lantarion]

Sorry to be over-specific BC, but Starflower was closer. ;)
Yeh're up my Finnish comrade. ;)

[Starflower]

ye-hey!

well let's try something then :

what was the event behind the naming of Rathloriel ?

[Nóm]

*hits self on head with the flat of Gurthang*
Of course it would be, dammit.. I was thinking in Sindarin terms. :p Another embarrassing moment for me, I think I'll kill myself. :D
j/k

Well it might be Ulair... I really don't know. I don't see anything in etymologies or anywhere else to help. I do think Ulaire sounds better ;).

And 'Nauglath' is used at least in Grey Annals. It was for a time the name of the Dwarves of Nogrod.

And so I'm not entirely off topic: The answer to the current question is the Dwarves were defeated on their way home after the sacking of Doriath and the treasure (gold) was lost in that river.

And since I have to ask a question now :D... Give 15 elvish names used for elves, as a whole and/or divisions of them.

[Lantarion]

Here goes nothin'. :D

Quendi
Eldar
Teleri
Sindar
Solosimpi
Vanyar
Noldor
Laiquendi
Avari
Moriquendi
Calaquendi
Galadhrim
Gwaith-i-Mírdain
Nandor
Falathrim

That's 15.. Whew. :)

[BlackCaptain]

Hmm...she might have been more specific but that doesnt take away from the credibility of my answer...

Oh well, she had a much better question than I could've asked.

[Lantarion]

Yeah sorry bout that BC; but I wasn't going to let you have a freebie with 'Dwarves'! :D ;)
I wonder if my answer is right, Nóm hasn't stopped by..

[Nóm]

I wonder if my answer is right, Nóm hasn't stopped by..
It is correct. Didn't expect you had any doubt. :D But I guess that is why you didn't ask another right away.

[Lantarion]

Yay! I wasn't sure you'd accept Gwaith-i-Mírdain. :)

Right, hmmmm...

Name three people who were in possession of the original Elessar.

[BlackCaptain]

The original Ellesar? Is that some kind of trinket??

[Úlairi]

Enerdhil of Gondolin created the jewel, now, I am unsure of whether or not that counts as someone actually possessing the jewel. The Elessar was imbued with a special healing power also. As for possession of the jewel. After it was created by Enerdhil (a friend of Celebrimbor [who was also of Gondolin], who made Nenya with a green jewel of likeness to the Elessar for the love of Galadriel in return), it was given to Idril Celebrindal (who is said to have worn the jewel upon her breast), only child of Turgon and Elenwë. She then married Tuor (son of Huor), and then gave birth to Eärendil, whom she then gave the stone to. Eärendil (who wore the jewel on his breast when he voyaged across the sea in the Vingilot) then pleaded for help from the Valar concerning Morgoth when he sailed to Aman, it is likely that he gave the Elessar to Kementári in Valinor after he passed into the West with the others of that time. It was then given to Olórin by Yavanna before he left for Middle-earth. Olórin then gave the Elessar to Galadriel to help make it the greatest of the realms of ME for a time. Now, from what I can gather, Galadriel might have given it to Elrond herself (which I doubt), or gave it to her daughter Celebrían who then married Elrond (son of Eärendil, and for which purpose Nerwen may have given the Elessar to Elrond [because he was its rightful owner]). Now, Elrond probably gave the Elessar to Arwen (as it seems to be the thing to do, give the Elessar to your offspring ;)), who then gave the Elessar to Aragorn. And then, according to tradition, Aragorn probably gave the Elessar to Eldarion, his son. Hope that's enough! ;)

[Starflower]

Galadriel might have given it to Elrond herself (which I doubt), or gave it to her daughter Celebrían who then married Elrond (son of Eärendil, and for which purpose Nerwen may have given the Elessar to Elrond [because he was its rightful owner]). Now, Elrond probably gave the Elessar to Arwen (as it seems to be the thing to do, give the Elessar to your offspring ), who then gave the Elessar to Aragorn. And then, according to tradition, Aragorn probably gave the Elessar to Eldarion, his son. Hope that's enough!

Hang on, wasn't it Galadriel who gave the stone to Aragorn, not Arwen... she gave it to him on leaving Lorien

[Lantarion]

And my source says that there were two Elessar-stones..
But Úlairi you answered the question, your turn. :)

[Úlairi]

Galadriel might have given it to Elrond herself (which I doubt), or gave it to her daughter Celebrían who then married Elrond (son of Eärendil, and for which purpose Nerwen may have given the Elessar to Elrond [because he was its rightful owner]). Now, Elrond probably gave the Elessar to Arwen (as it seems to be the thing to do, give the Elessar to your offspring ), who then gave the Elessar to Aragorn. And then, according to tradition, Aragorn probably gave the Elessar to Eldarion, his son. Hope that's enough!

Hang on, wasn't it Galadriel who gave the stone to Aragorn, not Arwen... she gave it to him on leaving Lorien

I checked it again, and couldn't find any reference to it in LoTR or in The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen, where I expected it to be, if you can find that reference I would be very interested. But I got that information from the Index of Unfinished Tales. Although, I believe there was an emendation to who created the Elessar, Tolkien was planning to change it to Celebrimbor who made the first Elessar in Gondolin and the second in Eregion.

And my source says that there were two Elessar-stones..
But Úlairi you answered the question, your turn. :)

Your source is correct, however, I like to think of it as the same stone according to this quote.

Unfinished Tales: The History of Galadriel and Celeborn and of Amroth King of Lórien
"In ages after there was again an Elessar, and of this two things are said, though which is true only those Wise could say who are now gone. For some say that is the second was only indeed the first returned, by the grace of the Valar; and that Olórin (who was known in Middle-earth as Mithrandir brought it with him out of the west."

*Underlines added for emphasis.

My turn!!! How many Balrogs was Morgoth said to have?

[Starflower]

[QUOTE=Úlairi]I checked it again, and couldn't find any reference to it in LoTR or in The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen, where I expected it to be, if you can find that reference I would be very interested. But I got that information from the Index of Unfinished Tales. Although, I believe there was an emendation to who created the Elessar, Tolkien was planning to change it to Celebrimbor who made the first Elessar in Gondolin and the second in Eregion.


'Yet maybe this will lighten your heart,' said Galadriel; 'for it was left in my care to be given to you, should you pass through this land.' Then she lifted from her lap a great stone of a clear green, set in a silver brooch that was wrought in the likeness of an eagle with outspread wings; and as she held it up the gem flashed like the sun shining through the leaves of spring. 'This stone I gave to Celebrían my daughter, and she to hers; and now it comes to you as a token of hope. In this hour take the name that was foretold for you, Elessar, the Elfstone of the house of Elendil! '(FoTR, Book II, Ch 8)

so Celebrian gave it to Arwen, but Arwen left it in Galadriel's keeping, and it was she who gave it to Aragorn.

and this is what i found about balrgos:
In "Quenta Silmarillion" text, when describing the Nirnaeth, Tolkien wrote "But even as the vanguard of Maedhros came upon the Orcs, Morgoth let loose his last strength, and hell was emptied. There came wolves and serpents, and there came Balrogs one thousand, and there came Glomund the Father of Dragons." The number of 1,000 Balrogs survived into the 1950s, but Tolkien soon made a note to himself in "Annals of Aman" that there should not be more than 7 at most.

[Úlairi]

'Twas a rather quick answer Starflower, as for no more than 7 yes, indeed that is true. Between 3-7. As for the Elessar I was partially correct, I was just too lazy to find out anything in LoTR, it's interesting though, it is never mentioned in the Index. Oh well, your turn Elenilótë. ;)

[Starflower]

oooh... Elenilótë sounds so much more regal than Starflower.... I might have to consider a change in the name.... ;)

Who is Urwendi ?

[Úlairi]

Yes, I like the sound of Elenilótë too.

Ummm, that was the original question I posted before I changed it to the question on the Balrogs, you sure you didn't see the original question? As for the answer, it was the original name for Arien, the Sun-maiden.

[Starflower]

boo...and i thought to keep this going for a while...well go ahead then :)

[Úlairi]

Who was Túrin's second cousin on the 'Hadorian' side?

[Starflower]

that would be Handir, son of Haldir and Gloredhel


who were the three lords of Ladros ?

[Úlairi]

Close, but no cigar. ;)

[Starflower]

ooops

it is of course Brandir Handir's son.sorry

[Lantarion]

Starflower
Elenilótë
Tähtikukka

At least three names for you! :D
So, next question.

[Starflower]

who were the three lords of Ladros ?


here it is, start guessing !!

i seem to collect names :) maybe someone will come up with the Sindarin version...

[Lantarion]

Inzilgimlê, in Adûnaic! :D
Err as for the question I have no idea. :o

[Úlairi]

here it is, start guessing !!

i seem to collect names :) maybe someone will come up with the Sindarin version...

Now, Ladros was the land granted to the house of Bëor by the Noldorin Kings. So, if it was the Noldorin Kings, it would then be Fingolfin, Fingon and then Turgon (or Gil-galad). But, if it indeed was of the house of Bëor, then it would be Boromir, Barahir and then Beren.

As for another version of your name, I tried to find one in Valarin. The best I could come up with was 'fire-flower' which is (as far as I can translate it) Rušuriniðil. If I get a question, what is the Sôval Phârë???

[Starflower]

Sôval Phârë -"Common Speech" in Westron- that would be the speech of the peoples of M-E, the one represented by English in the text.

so here's mine :
what is the name of the bloodred flower that grew on Amon Rudh ?

[Lantarion]

Seregon, 'blood-stone'. :)

Q: Give eight examples of Khuzdûl names.

[Lantarion]

While I'm awaiting your answers ;) I believe the Sindarin equivalent of your name, Starlfower, is Elloth. :)

[Inderjit S]

Azaghâl
Khîm
Ibun
Rakhas (Khuzdul for 'Orks')
Khazâd (Khuzdul for 'Dwarves')
Gamil Zirak
Sigin-tarâg (Longbeards)
Felakgundu ('cave-hewer, nick-name of Finrod 'Felagund')

I assume you do not want place names. (Otherwise that would be too easy. We get several place names, in Khuzdul, but few names of peoples or races.)

[Starflower]

While I'm awaiting your answers ;) I believe the Sindarin equivalent of your name, Starlfower, is Elloth. :)


thank you :)
Let's see. I've got sindarin, quenyan, finnish and english... any more ? :)

[Lantarion]

Inder this was sort of a 'test', in that I was indeed looking for Khuzdûl names that are not seen in either the LotR or the Silmarillion.. But I myself do not have many HoME books, and so this was more of a reserch question. :D
Hmm, I'd rather you did give place-names instead of personal names like Khîm.. But I am well aware that you would be able to do so, so you are correct. And up. :D

Haha, don't mention it Starflower. :)

[Inderjit S]

The "image of and eagle with golden beak and jewelled eyes" was a gift from who to whom?

[Starflower]

was a gift from Cirdan to Tar-Aldarion

[Inderjit S]

Correct.

You're up.

[Starflower]

Describe Morgoth's shield?

[Lantarion]

Was it black, with no design?

[Captain]

I think it was described as vast and "sable unblazoned."

[Starflower]

Captain , you are right, please go ahead :)

[Captain]

Thanks! :D

What color hair and eyes did Turin have?

[Inderjit S]

Grey eyes and dark hair? (After Morwen.)

[Úlairi]

Here's one for Inder: Who are the Mâchanumâz and what was their mâchan on the Elves in the Mâchananaškad?

[Starflower]

Can I ? Can I? please.. I know this...

Mâchanumâz are 'Authorities,Aratar' , that'd be the Valar
Mâchananaškad is Mahanaxar, 'Ring of Doom'
that makes mâchan 'decision, doom'

So we are talking about the Doom of Mandos here, are we?

Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains. On the House of Feanor the wrath of the Valar lieth from theWest unto the uttermost East, and upon all that will follow them it shall be laid also. Their Oath shall drive them, and yet betray them,and ever snatch away the very treasures that they have sworn to pursue. To evil end shall all things turn that they begin well; and by treason of kin unto kin, and the fear of treason, shall this come to pass. The Dispossessed shall they be for ever.
"Ye have spilled the blood of your kindred unrighteously and have stained the land of Aman. For blood ye shall render blood, and beyond Aman ye shall dwell in Death's shadow. For though Eru appointed to you to die not in Ea, and no sickness may assail you, yet slain ye may be, and slain ye shall be: by weapon and by torment and by grief; and your houseless spirits shall come then to Mandos. There long shall ye abide and yearn for your bodies, and find little pity though all whom ye have slain should entreat for you. And those that endure in Middle-earth and come not to Mandos shall grow weary of the world as with a great burden, and shall wane, and become as shadows of regret before the younger race that cometh after. The Valar have spoken

[Inderjit S]

Never knew you had read 'Quendi and Eldar' Starflower. :confused:

Mâchananaškad=Ring of Doom, and since you stipulate 'Elves' not 'Ñoldor' and I think, judging by M.T the banishment was in the main not debated and a 'Manwë' only (with some others input and despite the messenger's words so the "Valar have spoken") decision and the Mâchananaškad as you call it was defiled by Morgoth, was it the summons of the Valar to the Elves?

New Question: What was Fëanor’s jest in regard to the pronunciation of his and his father's name by the Vanyar?

[Starflower]

Never knew you had read 'Quendi and Eldar' Starflower. :confused:

I haven't read the whole thing, just thumbed through at the book store, but the names stuck , I like strange words

[Captain]

Inder is right. Turin had dark hair and grey eyes.

[Starflower]

Inder is right. Turin had dark hair and grey eyes.


Captain dear, Indy has already asked his question, though Ulairi slipped one in between, so we're back on track :)

[Nóm]

New Question: What was Fëanor’s jest in regard to the pronunciation of his and his father's name by the Vanyar?

Oooh I know! I know!

Answer to the highest bidder via PM. ;)

[Lantarion]

Uh.. Why not answer it here?

[Inderjit S]

Because she's awkward. ;)

[Nóm]

Because Inder told me over MSN he was going to try for another 'unanswerable' question, and I told him I wouldn't tell.

Awkward? For that I'm telling! :p

Hw as F.... Hwinwe and Hweanaro.

Umm... give Quenya names of 10 elves.

[Starflower]

Alatáriel
Amarië
Aranwë
Curufinwë
Elwë
Olwë
Rúmil
Therindë
Sindicollo
Turucáno

[Inderjit S]

I think your up Starflower.

[Starflower]

Who is Trahald ?

[Aulë]

Gollum/Sméagol :)

[Starflower]

indeed :)

go ahead

[Aulë]

This will require a little bit of research. ;)

Name the 12 kindreds of the Gondothlin, their leaders, their colours, their weapon-of-choice (if stated), and their leaders' manner of death. :)

[Lantarion]

O M G
:eek:


I'm a Mod so I'm allowed to spam.. Nyeh nyeh. :D j/k

[Inderjit S]

It's not hard all you need is a copy of BoLT 2. :p

[Lantarion]

But still, it's a lot to look up! :D :p
And believe me if I had the proper time I would.. But I'm actualy sort of reading BoLT2, and I'll get to the parts you mean in due course. Let's not be hasty. ;)

[Aulë]

lol.
But the Fall of Gondolin is the best story in HoME :D
You might as well skip straight to it ;)

[Manwe]

If its not that hard maybe you should answer Inder and the quiz could get going again

[Lantarion]

I'm sorry I haven't researched the question, but I simply do not have time. It's bad enough that I'm at TTF right now, instead of reading my literature assignments. :(
So if somebody could answer the question, this thread could get out of its rut. :)

[Nóm]

House Colors weapons Leader & death

Royal/King White, Gold and red. Swords. Maybe axes too? Turgon, Fell in destruction
Symbols: moon sun and of tower.
scarlet heart

Harp silver & gold tassels maces Salgant, taken to Angband?
shield: silver harp on black

Tree Green. clubs, slings Galdor, survived.


Golden Flower Golden sun upon shields Swords? Glorfindel, died battling balrog
on Cristhorn during the escape.

Pillar ??????? Maybe archers? Penlod, died with some of his
Who knows? men in the city.

Tower of Snow ??????? Same as Pillar? ;) Penlod


Hammer of Wrath Symbol: stricken anvil maces Rogster! Fell with all his people
Red gold, black iron driving at the enemies on the plain.

Mole Sable, moleskin helms mattock-like axes Me(a)glin, thrown from the walls
by Tuor.

Swallow White, blue, purple, black archers Duilin, hit by balrog dart
feathered helms, symbol:arrow head and fell from battlement

Wing Symbol: wings swords. maybe axes? Tuor, survived.


Fountain Silver & diamonds long swords Ecthelion, Fell into Fountian in
battle with Gothmog

Heavenly Arch Many colors. Many gems on archers Egalmoth, survived FoG & escape. Died Later.
blue shields. big opal upon helms





After much pestering by Aule, ;) there it is.

[Manwe]

Wow :eek:
Even if that isn't right I think you should go Nóm ;)

[Aulë]

Hmmm....she didn't state the colours for the House of the Wing (Silver and White), but that is close enough.
You're up Nom.

[Nóm]

You know I read through a large portion of FoG and cheked elsewhere for hint about which weapons Penlod's guys used? In the end I decided that since some died against a wall they had perhaps spent all their arrows. But who knows?

Anyhow a fair amount of work only to have to think of a question! Is this suppose to be a reward ;)

For what reason was the scarlet heart originally a symbol of Turgon?

[Lantarion]

No-one knows? :rolleyes:

[Nóm]

No-one knows? :rolleyes:

I know you've read the book, and it is mentioned more than once!

[Starflower]

You know I read through a large portion of FoG and cheked elsewhere for hint about which weapons Penlod's guys used? In the end I decided that since some died against a wall they had perhaps spent all their arrows. But who knows?

Anyhow a fair amount of work only to have to think of a question! Is this suppose to be a reward ;)

For what reason was the scarlet heart originally a symbol of Turgon?


"....and the Scarlet Heart, the heart being in the earlier version, the heart of Finwe Noleme, Turgon's father, cut out at the battle of Nirneath Aronediad, and retrieved by Turgon himself."

[Nóm]

That is correct. But who said that? Doesn't sound like CT.

PS: No more badgering me to answer questions, Aule, when you turn around and bail out on mine. :p

[Starflower]

Do i have to find out who said it as well? its just in passing in an article i found, i don't know where it originates from

[Nóm]

No, Sorry! :D Didn't mean for it to sound like I was digging for more answer to the question.

I was just curious about where it came from. At first I thought it must have been Christopher Tolkien but then I noticed the grammar didn't look like his.

[Starflower]

a new one then, maybe a bit easier, but so we get the tread going again

Which of Minalcar's projects was the most famous?

[Lantarion]

As his royal name tells us (Rómendacil II) he won huge victories against the Easterlings, or something like that.. :o
If it isn't precise enough I'm sure someone else will quickly come up with it. :)

[Starflower]

that's not precisely a project , winning against the Easterlings, is it? So I say no, find me another answer

[Arwen48]

He was responsible for the construction of the Argonath

[Starflower]

he was indeed, your turn Arwen, please go ahead

[Arwen48]

Thank you. This is my first time here, hope the question isn't too easy!


How did Léod, father of Eorl, die?

[Manwe]

He tried to tame Felarof and was thrown of, thus dieing

[Arwen48]

That's right.Your turn!

[Inderjit S]

If Manwe doesn't post a new question soon then somebody may need to post a new one instead....

[Inderjit S]

By all means Nom, go right ahead.

[Lantarion]

"Inderin", I like that! A lot better than "Inderjitean". :D
Whoever sees this post first can go, ok? ;)

[Inderjit S]

What type of story did Tolkien say LoTR was?

[Niniel]

a 'heroic romance'? (I remember reading that in the Letters).

[Inderjit S]

Correct. You're up....

[Manwe]

Ahhh! sorry , dang I missed my question! :(

[Niniel]

Me too! Sorry I didn't post one before,. Since I don't have my books with me this will be a very easy one: what was the name of Andreth's friend whom she mentions to Finrod?

[Inderjit S]

Is it Adanel?

[Niniel]

Yes- like you didn't know that....

[Inderjit S]

You were _vague_. "what was the name of Andreth's friend whom she mentions to Finrod?" She mentions more then one friend to Finrod.

What was Olwë’s epessë?

[Lantarion]

This is a complete shot in the dark, but maybe it's "Forgotten Language"? Or "Forsaken/Lonely Tongue"? *shrug*

[Lantarion]

Haha, I see. ;)
Hmm.. Well shucks, the only pointer I can see is Eglathon, which might refer to Egladil, the Angle of Lórien.. I suppose people lived there? No? Ah well. :D
Yes where is everybody anyway, we should get this thread underway again.

[Aulë]

Perhaps another hint, Salgant? :)

[Melian_the_Maya]

I would guess it was named after the Eglath, the Forsaken people, those of the Telerin Elves that went around seeking Elwe after the rest of their people were gone to Aman.

[Aulë]

Well, since Salgant has left, I'm guessing we'll never know the answer for sure.
So I guess this is now open for anyone who wants to post a question.

[Aulë]

Well since no one else is keen....


With what language of the West did Khuzdul have similar structure and grammar?

[Aulë]

Hint on where to find answer?Have a look at the later volumes of HoME...

[Inderjit S]

With what language of the West did Khuzdul have similar structure and grammar?

Was it the tounge of the Marachans--->Númenoreans--->various tounges. Off the top of my head, I think Pengoloð mentions a close affinity between the language of the Marachians, or some men, or men in general, and Khuzdul. PoME also claims that Khuzdul infuenced the langauge of some of the Easterling tribes.

[Inderjit S]

Well, I can only presume that I was right, so here is my question.

Which sons of Feanor took refuge in Nargothrond?

[Astaldo]

Well the first is Celegorm and the second must be Curufin but I am not sure about him.

[Inderjit S]

Correct-it is Celegorm and Curufin. You are up.

[Astaldo]

What was the name of The White Tree of Tirion, that it was same to Telperion?

[Starflower]

it was Galathilion, the fruit of Telperien

Fords of Aros was the boundary between which two regions?

[Astaldo]

Doriath and Beleriand.

Who was the captain of the Haladins after the death of Haleth?

[Starflower]

Astalso, your answer is not correct, so the question still stands :
Fords of Aros was the boundary between which two regions ?

[spirit]

Was it Himlad and ... Nan Dugortheb. (sp?)

[Starflower]

Himlad is correct and Nan Dungortheb almost... there is something still between the fords and Nan Dungortheb... tell me that land and you got a turn

[Astaldo]

Well in that case the other region is either Estolad or more likelyDor Dinen

[Starflower]

Dor Dinen is correct

your turn now

[Astaldo]

Well it's the same question:

Who was the captain of the Haladins after the death of Haleth?

[Astaldo]

He is the son of Haldar and nephew of Haleth

[Starflower]

...After the death of Haleth, the son of her brother, Haldan
son of Haldar ruled over the Haladin.

next question:

Who -at the time of the War of the Ring - was Lord of the Green Hills?

[Starbrow]

Was it Forlong the Fat?

[Starflower]

sorry -wrong answer :)

[Triandra]

Is it Herluin the Fair?

[Starflower]

Hi rluin the Fair, yes. Go ahead with your question Triandra

[Triandra]

Okay...since I just started this...I don't know if it was asked already...It's an easy one...

As the fellowship was leaving Rivendell, what was the one thing that Sam wished he had brought?

[Astaldo]

Rope? I don't really remember.

[Triandra]

Rope is right!!

Your turn!!:)

[Astaldo]

Which was the exact date of the Council of Elrond?

[Triandra]

Is it October 25th, year 3018?

[Astaldo]

Correct. :D

[Triandra]

Okay...here goes!!


In what year was Arwen Undomiel born?

[Astaldo]

Year 241 of the Third Age

[Triandra]

You are right!!:D

Your turn...

[Astaldo]

Name the 8th King of Arnor.

[Triandra]

Was it Valandur?

[Astaldo]

Sorry for the delay. Triandra is right. He was Valandur.

[Triandra]

Hmmm...what were two of the men that were with Faramir called when he discovered Frodo and Sam?

[grendel]

Mablung and Damrod were the two whom were left to guard Frodo and Sam, while Faramir took care of "business at hand."

[Triandra]

Most excellent...Your turn.

[grendel]

Who did Frodo, Sam, and Pippin encounter on their second night out from Hobbiton?

[Astaldo]

I think a Nazgul, but I am not so sure.

[Starbrow]

Wasn't it also the company of elves led by Gildor?

[Manwe]

They saw a Nazgul and then they saw the elves, Frodo also thoguht he saw another Nazgul which ran away when it heard the elves

[grendel]

I was thinking of Gildor and the elves; although they also encountered the Black Rider, as I think about it.

I think Starbrow gets it; but Astaldo could certainly claim it..... I'll leave it up to you guys.

[Astaldo]

I will leave it to Starbrow. :)

[Starbrow]

What color are Tom Bombadil's boots?

[Manwe]

They are yellow, I believe

[Starbrow]

You are quite correct. Go ahead with another question.

[Manwe]

One of the only 'people' in Middle-Earth that the Ring does not affect and he wears gumboots!

Anyway on to my question, who were the Peredhil?

[Astaldo]

Peredhil was a title of Elrond that means Half-Elven. It was also the title of all Half-Elvens.

[Manwe]

Correctus Astaldo. Continue...

[Astaldo]

In which cliff was Eol killed?

[Niniel]

Caragdûr (I'm not allowed to say that since it's shorter than 10 characters);)

[Triandra]

Whoa! This has nothing to do with this particular topic, but there have been over 2,000 posts!:D

[Astaldo]

That's right Niniel. Your turn.

And now we are heading for number 3000.:D Come on guys we have a lot of work to do.

[Triandra]

I'm trying to go for 3,000 but I don't get half the questions!!:) Anyways, I'll wait for Niniel to reply.

[Niniel]

What name did Tolkien use first before he called Faramir Faramir?

[Astaldo]

Faramir had another name? It's the first time I see this. I don't know

[Niniel]

Yeah, read History of Middle-Earth part 6 through 9. It's full of earlier versions of LOTR, very interesting. All kinds of people and places who had other names in the earlier versions, and whole stories that went differently. So yes, I'm looking for Faramir's earlier name.