Quiz/Trivia

[Niniel]

Come one guys, it's not that hard!!

[Astaldo]

Well I am sure that I don't know it.

[Niniel]

Someone else? It's not that hard. Hint: it's in HOME 8.

[Manwe]

Well that wait answers it I guess, nobody knows the answer. Please enlighten us.

[Aulë]

Falborn son of Anborn?

[Niniel]

Owly!!! You're back!! Where have you been all this time?
I knew I could leave this kind of questions to you... of course you're right, so ask a question :)

[Aulë]

Owly!!! You're back!! Where have you been all this time?
I knew I could leave this kind of questions to you... of course you're right, so ask a question :)
Yes- I'm back. I've been off earning money during my uni summer break. Now I'm just recuperating until uni restarts again (in March!), so there's plenty of time to waste on TTF.

I'm surprised that it took this long to answer that question!! :eek: Surely someone out there had HoME8 on them? Anywayz... next question:

Who/what was Zigur?

[Ingwë]

Thank you for the question, Niniel. I Had asked my friends 'What name did Tolkien use first before he called Faramir Faramir?' and they hadn`t answered. Now I am a winner! :D

[Manwe]

Aulë I don't think anyone knows the answer, although we can continue to postulate over your question if you wish to torture mere mortals like myself :rolleyes: .

[Aulë]

I'll give you a hint.
The answer is in HoME9.

[Starflower]

I have missed your trivia questions! Have to delve deep into the books to find the answers...but all is not lost:


Zigur is an Adunaic name for Sauron

[Aulë]

I have missed your trivia questions! Have to delve deep into the books to find the answers...but all is not lost:


Zigur is an Adunaic name for Sauron
Hehe- mine are nothing compared to some of the questions put forward by the likes of Nóm, Beleg and Inder! :p
And yes, Zigur is Sauron. :)
You're up.

[Aulë]

There is more to it than asking a question that revolves around an obscure piece of information. How you word it is vital. How much information the question itself gives is important. Questions that ask Who is [insert name of person or place]? Can not be truly difficult since a look through the appendices of the books will turn up the answer. In fact the more obscure the name the faster the answer is found through the appendices since you don't have to comb through a zillion occurrances of the name. If a name only occurs once it can be found in (at most) 3 or 4 minutes.

One could also be careful that the answer to their question can not be googled. One way of doing this is to NOT use JRRT's terminology, put it in your own words!

For instance when I wanted to know the name of what JRRT called the gesture-language of the Dwarves, I didn't use the word "gesture". Instead, I think I said "sign language" as most googlable websites will use JRRT's word "gesture".

Try it, search google on: gesture-language dwarves, then try searching on sign-language dwarves.

And I certainly did not ask "What is Iglishmek?"

For instance if you needed to ask about Zigur you wouldn't only word it to avoid asking "Who/What is..." ("The Adunaic name of Sauron was...?" is better when it comes to appendix hunting) Only go one better, and don't use "Adunaic" because that makes it even easier to google, instead say ask something like: "What would the Numenoreans have called Sauron in their tongue?" And unless one is familiar with the actual texts of HoME 9 (and therefore suspects it contains the answer), he will have a much harder time finding the answer. In theory anyhow. Hehe... seems to work for me huh?
Well they did take a week to answer my question. :p If the question is too difficult, it can kill this thread for weeks (or even months, such as with my Gondolin question). It's sometimes best to keep the question relatively simple, as so the thread keeps on flowing, and that not just Tolkien scholars such as yourself can answer it.

[Nóm]

I agree, I learned it does kill the thread. I had only asked the toughest ones to pay back Inderjit for asking difficult ones. :D

I also have to say I am not a scholar, but lets not argue that here.

[Manwe]

Now that Nóm has rattled on about the art of question asking or "quasking" as I like to call it, Starflower can post an impossible question....um, go on then.

[Starflower]

well.. I don't think this will be 'impossible' by any stretch of the word :)

How long passed from when Beren first strayed in into the woods of Neldoreth to when Luthien came to him?

[Manwe]

Looks like I was right Starflower, your question is pretty impossible.

[Starflower]

Really? GOSH! I didn't think anyone would think it impossible... but we'll wait, surely SOMEONE must have an answer?

[Aulë]

*Waits for Nóm: "The Tolkien Scholar"*

[Nóm]

I don't know it Aule, don't know where to find it either. I only know it was from Summer (not the end of it) to the beginning of Spring. No less than 6 months no more than 9. That's going by a four season system. Elves could have more seasons like they did in Rivendell, but I don't think those are what JRRT refered to when he said Summer and Spring. By Rivendell's calender and seasons it could have been as long as ten months.

If you really want to hunt for the answer I'd say to check the notes to all the texts of the tale. Maybe even the Letters. Maybe he jotted down somewhere how much time is suppose to pass. Every version of the tale frequently mentions the seasons, but nothing exact that I recall.

[Starflower]

Well, I did not ask for specific time, as it is not found anywhere (that i know of).

But wandering in the summer in the woods of Neldoreth he came upon Luthien, daughter of Thingol and Melian, at a time of evening under moonrise, as she danced upon the unfading grass in the glades beside Esgalduin. Then all memory of his pain departed from him, and he fell into an enchantment; for Luthien was the most beautiful of all the Children of Iluvatar. Blue was her raiment as the unclouded heaven, but her eyes were grey as the starlit evening; her mantle was sewn with golden flowers, but her hair was dark as the shadows of twilight. As the light upon the leaves of trees, as the voice of clear waters, as the stars above the mists of the world, such was her glory and her loveliness; and in her face was a shinning light.

But she vanished from his sight; and he became dumb, as one that is bound under a spell, and he strayed long in the woods, wild and wary as a beast,seeking for her. In his heart he called her Tinuviel, that signifies Nightingale, daughter of twilight, in the Grey-elven tongue, for he knows no other name for her. And he saw her afar as leaves in the winds of autumn, and in winter as a star upon a hill, but a chain was upon his limbs.

There came a time near dawn on the eve of spring, and Luthien danced upon a green hill; and suddenly she began to sing. Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Luthien released the bonds of winter, and froze waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed.
Then the spell of silence fell from Beren, and he called to her, crying Tinuviel; and the woods echoed the name. Then she halted in wonder, and fled no more, and Beren came to her.
So, it is from summer to first of spring, Nom, you're up

[Nóm]

Haha! They said it was impossible so I thought there was more to it!

Let's see here...

Which Noldorin elf-lord is said to have had friendship with the Green Elves of Ossiriand?

[Starflower]

hmm

i say Fingolfin?

[Flame of Udûn]

It was Finrod.Of these Finrod Felagund came most often, for he had great love of wandering and he came even into Ossiriand, and won the friendship of the Green-elves.
TS QS 14What was likened to reptilian precipitation, and what was its instrument?

[Manwe]

Will someone guess already or has Flame of Udûn stumped you all....because he's stumped me :rolleyes:

[Starflower]

I have no idea what he is asking...

only REPTILIAN thing i can even remotely think of is the Dragon helm of Dor-lomin

C'mon then, someone else have a go too

[Maggot]

Starflower, Manwe I can see you're just as stumped as I am come on you guys out there help us out. I'm a bit with Starflower about the Dragon Helm but now I think carefully about it i'm not sure.

[Manwe]

Maybe Flame of Udûn could give us a iddy, biddy clue :D . How about it?

[Manwe]

Well it looks as if Flame of Udûn has personally killed this thread, do we have any among us who will resurrect this most excellent thread?

[legolas'protege]

this may not be fair to post on a quiz since i don't know the answer,but which mountains are the mines of moria located in? :confused:

[angnor]

Moria was located in the Misty Mountains (Hithaeglir, I believe).

[Flame of Udûn]

No, that is the mountain range. They were located under Celebdil, Caradhras, and Fanuidhol. Now answer my question.

[Hammersmith]

I don't think there's lizard rain anywhere in LOTR. Can we have a clue?

[Flame of Udûn]

This is 'The Hall of Fire', not 'The Lord of the Rings'.

[Manwe]

This is ironic, Flame of Udûn has put out fire of our great hall. Please, before we are forced to do something very rash (eg. consult a book of answers :eek: ) someone answers this impossible question!

[Starflower]

Flame! You are a naughty person!
see i forgot that 'precipitation' also refers to rain...

In later days, in the wars upon Middle-earth, it was the bows of the Númenóreans that were most greatly feared. "The Men of the Sea," it was said, "send before them a great cloud, as a rain turned to serpents, or a black hail tipped with steel;" and in those days the great cohorts of the King's Archers used bows made of hollow steel, with black-feathered arrows a full ell long from point to notch.

[Flame of Udûn]

Flame! You are a naughty person!What do you mean?

[Starflower]

making your question so difficult to answer.... it took so long as noone could figure out what your question meant. TO keep the thread from stumping so quickly maybe use clearer phrasing next time?

Was my answer sufficient though?

[Flame of Udûn]

The entire point of a question is to be difficult. If you had read Nom's post a while back you perhaps would understand. Questions such as "Who was the fourth king of Gondor?" are boring and require no thought.
And no, your answer was not sufficient, as absence is seldom accepted as sufficiency.

[Starflower]

I did not mean easier questions, just clearer phrasing, there are a lot of us here to whom English is not the first language, and I for one had never encoutered the word precipitation in this context before. That's all :o

so the answer

What was likened to reptilian precipitation?

the hail of arrows by the Numenoreans

What was its instrument?

The bows used to shoot the arrows

is this sufficient?

[Starbrow]

Hey Starflower,

Where did you find your quote about the Numenorean arrows? I'd like to read more about it.

[Flame of Udûn]

Am I to be subjected to your abjuration for being an aid in your increased understanding of the English language? You should be thanking me!
Starbrow, it is from "A Description of the Island of Númenor", from Part Two of Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth.
Starflower, you're up.

[Ingwë]

I will ask next wquestion because nobody do it.

Who is Girion? :rolleyes:

[Starbrow]

Wasn't he the Lord of Dale?

[Ingwë]

Yes, you are right. You turn. :)

[Starbrow]

What is the name of Eowyn's father and mother?

[Ingwë]

Éomund is her father and Theodwyn is her mother.

[Starbrow]

You're right. Go ahead.

[Ingwë]

Who is Éothain?

[Manwe]

Éothain was second in command to Éomer.

[Ingwë]

This in not the answer I am looking for. Try again. :D I men what did he do when they met Aragorn, Legolas, etc.

[Durin's Bane]

Talk. It's in the 'Riders of Rohan', and please don't ask me to quote it!

[Ingwë]

Hm, OK. That`s true. It is in that chapter. I would say you know that.

Your turn.

[Durin's Bane]

Since we've started with the names who is Roheryn?

[Ingwë]

I know that! Roheryn is the horse of Aragorn Elessar. It is said that horse is a gift from Arwen Evenstar.

[Durin's Bane]

Right, your turn (again).

[Ingwë]

Thanks.
What name was given by the elves to the ents?

[grendel]

Legolas refers to them as "the Onodrim," so that would be my answer.

[Ingwë]

Yes, you are right.

[grendel]

Which individual was described as the tallest of all the children of Iluvatar?

[Ithrynluin]

Calacirya. ;)

What is the elven name for the marshlands found somewhere along the course of the Anduin, and where exactly is this place?

[Lantarion]

If you're talking about the Gladden Fields, they're called Loeg Ningloron in Sindarin as I recall. As for an exact location, my recollection of Rhovanion and those places is very hazy, since I haven't read anything Tolkien-related in almost a year.. But I recall the fields were quite far north of Rohan and Gondor, about the 'height' of Rivendell?

[Ithrynluin]

The Gladden is not what I had in mind.

[Gothmog]

The Nindalf? Found below the Falls of Rauros.

[Ithrynluin]

That is correct. Please proceed. :)

[Gothmog]

While Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin were in Bree, the Horn-call of Buckland was heard in The Shire.

How long had it been since that call was last sounded?

[Ingwë]

Maybe it sounded in the Battle of Greenfields that is in 2747. The War of the Ring is in 3018.
271 years?

[Gothmog]

No. That is not the answer.

[Ingwë]

The horn-call sounded last in 2911 - Fell Winter when the white wolves invaded the Shire.
107 years

[Gothmog]

Yes that's the answer. :)

Your turn.

[Ingwë]

Thanks.

Who named the Elves People of the stars?

[Maggot]

Orome named the elves the people of the stars.

[Ingwë]

Correct. Go on!

[Maggot]

Cheers Ingwe here it is then. What was Thingol's original name among the eldar before he met Melian the maia? Answer away:).

[grendel]

Elwë

What is ithilden?

[Ingwë]

Is that the magical substance made by the elves from mithril that could be seen by the reflectedlight of the moon and the stars. Like the West gate of Moria? Or I am wrong?

[grendel]

That is precisely correct! Your turn....

[Ingwë]

What is Ringarë?

[Sam_Gamgee]

Its a month in the calendar of men......



What does Samwise mean?

[Ingwë]

'Samwise' means 'half-wise' (i.e. simple or foolish)
What is Nîn-in-Eilph ?

[Sam_Gamgee]

its a marsh land where the greyflood started. make a new question and dont use the encyclopedia of arda

[Ingwë]

OK. I will ask now.
Which pillar marks the spot where Durin first looked in Mirrormere.
This is nat from the Encyclopedia of Adra, but I think it may be found there. :(

[UNGOLIANT]

i think its durins stone? if it is correct heres my question

what was bilbos last riddle (or question) he said when he played gollum at a riddle match in the misty mountains?

[Ingwë]

i think its durins stone? if it is correct heres my question

What was Bilbos last riddle (or question) he said when he played Gollum at a riddle match in the misty mountains?

Yes, you are correct. And I think his last riddle was What is in my pocket. If the translation is correct...

[UNGOLIANT]

yup you are correct;)

[Ingwë]

Thanks.

Who led his people to Éóthéod?

[UNGOLIANT]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. i think it was frumgar but im not 100 %

[UNGOLIANT]

if im correct heres my question

Who is Tilion?

[Ingwë]

Tilion was a hunter of Oromë's people. He was choosen by the Valar to become th pilot of the Moon.

[UNGOLIANT]

CORRECT!!!!!:) your up

[Ingwë]

Thanks. Who was called South Victor?

[Telëlambe]

Ur Gonna Have to Give us Clue?

[Ingwë]

He was a King of Gondor...

[Starbrow]

It is Hyarmendacil, aka Ciryaher.

What was the language of Rohan?

[Ingwë]

The language of Rohan? It is a one of the branches of the Adûnaic.

[Starbrow]

Good answer, Ingwe. Go ahead with your question.

[Ingwë]

We began with the languages, so I will ask: What is the language of the Dwarves?

[Telëlambe]

it's khuzdul!

[Ingwë]

Correct. Go on. :)

[Telëlambe]

Who was Estel and what does it mean?

[spirit]

He was a ranger...? :p


Estel, meaning "Hope", is another name for Aragorn! :D

[Telëlambe]

clever clogs! ur up.

[Ingwë]

Nobody ask so I will do it!

Who is Fror?

[Manwe]

He was the second son of Dain I. He was killed with his father by a Cold-Drake, which is a species of dragon that lived in the Grey Mountains.

[Ingwë]

OK. I wanted to see Various names found in the later genealogy are absent here, Thror's brother Fror.

But you may ask

[Manwe]

Sorry. Thank you for being gracious.

Name two of King Theodens divisional leaders at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields

[Thorondor_]

Deorwine and Dunhere (& Elfhelm :))

[Manwe]

Elfhelm is correct but I am looking for two others that you have not stated.

[Thorondor_]

I am confused on the reason on which you disconsider Deorwine and Dunhere as divisional leaders. Deorwine was mentioned as chief of the knights at the Pellenor Fields Battle - The Return of the King: "The Battle of the Pelennor Fields," p. 120, 125. Also, Dunhere was the leader of Harrowdale army of Rohan at the same battle; he is also mentioned at page 125. But, to further answer your question, I also mention Eomer and Grimbold.

[Manwe]

Eomer and Grimbold were what I was looking for thank you, sorry for disregarding your other two I guess I should research my questions before I ask them :rolleyes: .

[Thorondor_]

Since I take it you agree with my answer, here is my next question:

Who created the galvorn?

[Starflower]

it was Eöl the Dark Elf

[Telëlambe]

Someone ask a question.

[Bergil]

Since no one has posted a question in about 5 days i will go ahead and ask one.
(Sorry Starflower if you were going to ask a question...you can ask one after this or something)

What is the dwarves name for Tom Bombadil?

[Telëlambe]

Its Forn or something.

[Bergil]

correct telelambe. The answer is in the Fellowship at the Council of Elrond chapter

[Telëlambe]

Exelent,
here's a cracker for you.
Who was Arathorn 2's (the second's) mother In Law?

hint- she had the gift of foresight.

[Thorondor_]

Ivorwen ;)

[Telëlambe]

Impressive my winged friend,

[Thorondor_]

Which queen had the name of "dear gift"?

[Thorondor_]

Her husband is a calaquende.

[Telëlambe]

Melian The Miar?

[Thorondor_]

Correct, you're next :)

[Telëlambe]

Wow, what a guess.
ok then, from the creation of Arda to the end of the the 3rd age, approximatly how many (human) years had passed

[Ingwë]

Elrond was born in 55*, First age. To the end of the second age he dwelt in the Middle earth 6500 years. Then I would say 7000 years :)

[Telëlambe]

Erm, from the creation of arda, when the Valar 1st went down to the earth untill the ringbearers ship departed.

A little more than 7000 years

[Ingwë]

Erm, from the creation of arda, when the Valar 1st went down to the earth untill the ringbearers ship departed.Then it is more than 7000 years. They lived in Arda many years before the beginning of the First age

[Telëlambe]

I Know!
i never even mentioned the words 1st age.
how long from creation to end of 3rd age of the sun?

[Thorondor_]

Give or take, 12.000 years.

[Telëlambe]

noop. bigger

[Ingwë]

The question is how many years are from the creating of Arda to the First age. Ingwë was born in the days of the Two Trees, in V.Y.t.1050 (I don't know what does V.Y.t. mean). But why 1050 years. We know that Ingwë is one of the first who woke in Cuivienen... You say that it is not 5000 years, but look here (http://www.annalsofarda.dk/annals-of-arda/Elves-index-tables/Elves.htm). If Ingwë was born 1050 years after the Valar had come in Arda, then the answer is 8000 years. But you said '(human) years ' and maybe this maked the question more difficult...

[Telëlambe]

V.Y means Valarian year, and one Valarian year is around 10 years in middle earth. i am just gonna say the answer because its causing a lot of confusion:

According to the Tolkien illustrated Encyclopedia, In the intro, from Eru Put the World into Being and the Powers Decended into it, untill The ringBearers Ship Departs, approximatly 63,000 years (in middle earth) had passed.

[Ingwë]

Would you ask another question or... I don't know :) :D

[Telëlambe]

Ok, easy one.
What Coulour was the outer wall of the city of minas Tirith,

[Ingwë]

Minas Tirith => White tower and... white wall perhaps?

[Telëlambe]

noop, thow must readith the book!

[Ingwë]

Hm, it was repaired soon... It was made of stone, so I would say grey... If we talk about one wall... :)

[Telëlambe]

The city of minas tirith has 7 walls, the colour of the outside wall is described perticularly in the book, and shares its properties with another significant building in middle earth...

[Ingwë]

Even as Pippin gazed in wonder the walls passed from looming grey to white, blushing faintly in the dawn; and suddenly the sun climbed over the eastern shadow and sent forth a shaft that smote the face of the City.The chapter 'Minas Tirith'... You don't ask for Rammas Echor, do you? Because you said the seven walls.

[Telëlambe]

No, What colour was the outside wall if Minas Tirith

it is the same reason that the host of mordor thought it useless to try to break it.

[Telëlambe]

Oh dear...
Well i will tell you it is Jet Black, and the exact same as the strong stone found in Orthanc.

well i will try again,
in the Hobbit, which dwarf of Thorin and company was regarded as the Strongest?

[Thorondor_]

in the Hobbit, which dwarf of Thorin and company was regarded as the Strongest?
"Dori is the strongest, but Fili is the youngest and still has the best sight"

When did the dunlendings occupy the deserted ring of Isengard?

[Starflower]

they took over Isengard year 2710 TA

[Thorondor_]

You are next :)

[Starflower]

who was Gálmód's son?

[Ingwë]

Isn't he Grima's father. As far as I remember Gandalf says 'Grima son of Galmod...'.

[Starflower]

sorry for the delay. You are right of course, please go ahead.

:)

[Ingwë]

Thank you :)
Who is Alphros?

[spirit]

He's a Prince of Dol Amroth.
:)

[Ingwë]

Show must go on :D

[spirit]

Who says this?

We must go round about, but it is not far.
;)

[elrilgalia]

is it Treebeard ?

[spirit]

Incorrect.

[Thorondor_]

Gandalf...

[spirit]

To be honest... I can't remember now.
It's been ages.


Anyone else can take a turn...



:o Sorry.

[Thorondor_]

Gandalf laughed.
- That is better! he said. Well, Theoden. will you ride with me to find Treebeard? We must go round about, but it is not far...

How did Gimli get to Helm's Deep?

[Withywindle]

He rode with Eomer (Eomer says something about with having Gimli behind him, Legolas on his left and Aragorn on his right, none would withstand them).

Question: Name all of the peaks of the Misty Mountains that are mentioned in the texts

I make it six, by the way

[Sangahyando]

Caradhras, Methedras, Gundabad, Fanuidhol, Celebdil, Carn Dum?

Sangahyando, great-grandson of Castamir the Usurper

[Withywindle]

Sorry about the long absence! The answer is correct, you may proceed with the next question.

[Chymaera]

Lets get this game going again.:)

How far is it from Bree to Rivendale? (in leagues):p

[Starbrow]

I'm going to guess 30 leagues.

[Chymaera]

I'm going to guess 30 leagues.

Sorry, no you are a bit short:)

There is a stated number (check the footnotes);)

[Chymaera]

Try looking in Unfinished Tales:p

[Starbrow]

Is it 116 leagues?

[Chymaera]

:) Hooray!

Yes, Starbrow you are correct :D

[Starbrow]

In Tolkien's earliest writings he refers to the Nolder by another name. What is that name?

[Chymaera]

I think the answer is Gnomes

[Starbrow]

Yes, you are correct.:) Go ahead and ask the next question.

[Chymaera]

What is the name of Sam's first daughter? :P

[Starbrow]

Well, if nobody else wants to play, I guess I'll answer.

I believe it is Elanor.

[Chymaera]

Correct :)

be gentle with the next question

[Starbrow]

Who was Boromir's mother?

[Chymaera]

Just off the top of my head, was she Findulas of Dol Amroth?

[Starbrow]

Yes, it was.:) Your turn now.

[Telëlambe]

I remember when this place was buzzing...


OK, what did Turin call Sador his friend in childhood, and what did it mean?

[Durin's Bane]

Labadal (unless I have misspelled it) and it means 'Hopafoot'.

[Telëlambe]

thats the one!

[Durin's Bane]

Don't know if the question has been asked before but...
Who is Baldor and how did he die?

[Telëlambe]

was he not one of the early kings of Rohan who got drunk and tried to walk the paths of the dead?

[Durin's Bane]

Well, can't remember the getting drunk part but he was the king of Rohan who tried to walk the paths of the dead. So it's your turn.

[Telëlambe]

Did you know that the Dunharrow brigade broke his legs and just left him there?


Righto, a tough one;

What did Arwen cry (twice) after Aragorn laid down and died well into the fourth age?

[Durin's Bane]

She cried "Estel!" (twice ;) )

[Telëlambe]

Right!

on you go

[Durin's Bane]

Who wrought Elendil's sword?

[Telëlambe]

Telchar of nogrod?

[Durin's Bane]

Precisely. Your turn... again.

[Telëlambe]

Cheers,

Who was Legolas' father and grandfather?

[Illuin]

Thranduil and Oropher

[Telëlambe]

Yup, well done!

have at it!