the character legolas.... [Archive]

dndwildelf

04-17-2002, 05:51 PM

hi was anyone else unhappy w/ how legolas was portrayed in the movie??? in the movie he was really cool by how he acted but some of the things he said just didn't seem like his character. i dunno if it was the way they were phrased or the way they were said. i am not knocking him is any way because he is my fave character but i was just wondering if anyone else noticed if it was different then the book. thanks!!

Lantarion

04-17-2002, 07:04 PM

It's been a while since I saw the movie, but I seem to remember him being a bit too DnD-like and rigid. Not as free and 'Elvish' as Legolas in the books.

dndwildelf

04-18-2002, 02:32 AM

i agree w/ you Pontifex. i play D&D every monday and that is how i feel about his character as well. i am not knocking it in any way. orlando bloom played legolas very well he just isn't how i imagined him. the rest of the movie is great tho. i can't wait for the next one to come out. i hope his character gets better. thanks for responding!!!!

Tarien

04-18-2002, 05:05 AM

I am an archer, so I am somewhat biased, but here goes:

Archers always get the silly, background parts! And it said he had a knife, why not another? Makes sense to me. And is a bow truely a melee weapon? No! Peter Jackson the Great finally fulfilled the dreams of A&A Archery.

Archers rule! But not more than oboists, or tenor saxes!

Niniel

04-18-2002, 01:43 PM

Hi Tarien! Nice to meet a fellow archer! I thought too that it was a bit ridiculous to have Legoals use arrows to stab orcs at one foot distance, since in the book he has a knife (or two? I'm not sure) that he can handle very well.
I found that the lines he had to say were sometimes lines that in the book were said by Aragorn. This made him look a bit worried about everything, instead of 'free', as Pontofex says.

Elias

04-20-2002, 09:06 AM

I don't see that Legolas was so different in the movie than he was in the book, but I think that all the charachters were a bit different than they are in books. Anyway that doesn't bother me because the difference is so little. The movie worked great!

Isilme

04-23-2002, 12:53 AM

In an interview OB said he had to learn to use the knives also. So he'll most likely be using them in the following movies.
Personally I prefer the bow and arrow.

kalwa_Avar

05-04-2002, 06:36 PM

The Bow was cool but useing them to stab orcs? come on.But if you didnt have enough time to grab your knife......
ps I thought he had sword(or it could be my screwd up mind....)

Lantarion

05-05-2002, 04:04 PM

Welcome, kalwa_Avar! :)
I can't believe there are so many archers here! Including myself I know of three, all in this thread! Excellent.
I started last summer, and I often practice in my (enormous) back yard. I can't remember all the technical terms in English, but I believe I have a 28-pound bow. (For those who don't know, the pounds don't mean it weighs that much, it's the force needed to pull back the taut string. 28 isn't very much, but I'm hoping to get it 'upgraded' soon.)
:)

Oh yes, and Legolas did have a long, white knife. He used it to waste Orcs when he ran out of arrows at Helm's Deep.

Sam The Bearer

05-05-2002, 07:33 PM

i think they did a pretty good job on legolas but he was defnitely more serious than he was in the book...i only wish elves played more of a part in the lord of the rings. it seems they are taken as ancient creatures and mainly used on the story for telling of his history with not enough elves fighting. this is a little off topic but speaking of legolas' knife which he actually does have and it is retarded that he didnt use it but i found a web site with swords from the lord of the rings! they are releasing 3 new ones with each movie so be on the lookout for legolas' knife the site is: www.armsofvalor.com

well im out

Isilme

05-05-2002, 10:27 PM

strange.... i don't remember legolas having a knife.... oh well :rolleyes:

Welcome to the forum Sam!!! and thanks for the link:)

Eithne

05-12-2002, 06:26 AM

hmm... i think ob did well with what he had; it wasn't much. his character wasn't so well developed, but then, it wasn't so much in the books either, was it? what's annoying is that he is getting all the attention for being so hot (don't get me wrong, i'm a fan- have u seen that gap commercial?) and he doesn't do anything in the movie. i didn't notice the too-cool thing actually, but i dunno, maybe it was...

e.Blackstar

06-01-2002, 02:50 AM

with as HOT as legolas is,he can't do wrong by mehot

Lantarion

06-01-2002, 01:54 PM

I take it you are female, then. ;)

Ingo

06-19-2002, 04:51 AM

legolas defanately has a knife...in the books only one in the movie 2.....if you waan see it in the movie...go to the moria burial chamber seen...hes on a ledge and uses thme like a sisors to cut an orcs head off

Gandalf_White

06-21-2002, 08:44 AM

Pontifex, with a name like Feanor chica she had better be a girl.
I really liked Orlando Bloom's portrayal of Legolas, but he wasn't "elvish enough" If anyone gets what I mean.

Lady Legolas

07-11-2002, 02:39 AM

I Liked Orlando's portrail as Legolas.In my oppinion everyone in the movie did a good job portraying there characters!!! It was like I was watching the book! Thats how much I loved the movie.

kalwa_Avar

07-11-2002, 04:33 AM

Hey I didnt really like how some of the characters were portrayed, no one can really fit the discription of another person perfectly and when you use your imagenation (sp?) they become real people with diffrant personality traits,but yes some were pretty close to peoples imagend people,

Dragonblade

08-04-2002, 09:12 AM

My opinion, The lipstick wearing barbie elf was not all that great, ya Bloom did a good job portraying the small part that he was given, but in the movie he seemed more shallow, and not completely 'elf-like' if you catch what I mean. The same with Aragorn. I know this is a thread 'bout the lipstick wearing barbie elf but I had to add that. He did a good job at the archery bit but...all together, the book Legolas beat the movie legolas a hundred times over.
^_^ Thats just my opinion
Orli used to smoke ^_^ I found that out...ooooookay...umm....ya

Ariana Undomiel

08-09-2002, 06:44 AM

I found that Legolas was excellently potrayed in the movie. He is handsome, fair, swift, smooth, keen, and light of foot. His speech is gentle and strong and he moves lightly. Didn't you notice that when he came to Rivendell on horseback he dismounted swiftly and yet he did not bounce or bend when he hit the ground. I have watched lots of people ride horses and most can't dismount that smoothly. Also, Legolas walked on top of the snow on the Red Horn Mountain just like in the book. He was awesome with bow and arrow especially when he sees an orc right in front of him and taking and arrow he was about to fire stabs the creature and then shoots the arrow and slays another orc. That is so cool and quick thinking! I don't know about the rest of you, but I think he was perfect!

~Ariana

P.S. He was far from girlie. Elves are supposed to have long hair. He is NOT a lipstick wearing Barbie! What a pathetic description!

ms Greenleaf

08-28-2002, 12:54 AM

Silence Legolas had a knife in the movie

Melian Le Fay

09-01-2002, 06:44 PM

But guys.........
When you read the entire book, the you really "get into a character". At least that was with me. I was thrilled with Aragorn after reading the 5th book (1st part of ROTK)! So, maybe Legolas, as all other characters will be complete through other two parts of the film! And as for Legolas singing, I think Tolkien notes that in TTT and ROTk! I'm not sure...

Earendil

09-03-2002, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by Ariana Undomiel
I found that Legolas was excellently potrayed in the movie. He is handsome, fair, swift, smooth, keen, and light of foot. His speech is gentle and strong and he moves lightly. Didn't you notice that when he came to Rivendell on horseback he dismounted swiftly and yet he did not bounce or bend when he hit the ground. I have watched lots of people ride horses and most can't dismount that smoothly. Also, Legolas walked on top of the snow on the Red Horn Mountain just like in the book. He was awesome with bow and arrow especially when he sees an orc right in front of him and taking and arrow he was about to fire stabs the creature and then shoots the arrow and slays another orc. That is so cool and quick thinking! I don't know about the rest of you, but I think he was perfect!

~Ariana

P.S. He was far from girlie. Elves are supposed to have long hair. He is NOT a lipstick wearing Barbie! What a pathetic description!

i can agree completely and as an archer i think that he was very perfect witht he bow as well... and yes he was very lightfooted and he spoke really softly adn i think that he was very handsome and keena dn smooth adn his voice was soooo soothing to hear like elf voices are surppose to be!!! hes not girly all elves are like that!!!

Melian Le Fay

09-03-2002, 07:04 PM

I loved how they portraited Elves!!!!
I just LOVE them - with their long hair, soft manly voices, light steps...Mmmmmmmmm.......yummy! And female Elves were just perfect too!

Galadhwen

09-03-2002, 07:59 PM

To my mind he plays the perfect elf, as has been noticed he has a soft voice, fair of face, easy graceful movements and good with his weapons.
The only difference I can see between the 2 is that book L sings and film L doesn't. Oh yea isn't it a sword and not knives? What do you think of the other elves? I think the other main ones are just as good but some of the background ones aren't, they either look to stuffy or too childish!:D

Carantalath

09-04-2002, 06:34 PM

I think that Legolas was portrayed pretty well in the movie. I mean, he seemed very elf-like to me and he seemed good with the bow. I don't think anyone can really decide how good his acting was, considering that he didn't have very many lines and that at least three of them were only one word. I think that in the other movies, his character will be developed, just as someone else on this thread said.

Earendil

09-05-2002, 01:12 AM

Yes he will be cause book three hes in alot of scenes...but i think because he didn't have that many lines he should be judged upon his movements and he gets an A+ in my opinion!!:D

ms Greenleaf

09-06-2002, 12:32 AM

Yah i am a singer and I really want to hear Legolases voice, i mean Orlando has a really good singy almost voice )(talking) Anyway with his British heritage he should have alol the right vowels

Melian Le Fay

09-06-2002, 09:50 PM

Maybe I don't remember all too well, but I think Leggy does most of his singing in TTT and ROTK...I can't remember him singing in the first book... I doubt they'll make the scenes with Orlando singing, I guess there just isn't enough time!!! (Though I wouldn't mind waching a 5-hour long film!!!!! :D :D :D )
And as for the knives-sword question, Legolas has ONE knife in the book, and uses it in Helm's deep, when he runs out of arrows. Though, I don't mind two knives (they're something like long knives, not some potato-peling thingies...) He just looked awesome waving around with them in TTT trailer!
And as for OB's British heritage...I'm not sure what you ment exactly, Ms Greenleaf, about the vowels...? Anyway, I heard OB talk, and that ain't no sweet British talk!!! He doesn't speak like in the film, with a fine pronaunciation, but something like....hmmm...I don't know, just the way Brits speak now...It'r reminds a bit of Australian talk...Do you understand ? I'm not sure I explained it well...

ms Greenleaf

09-07-2002, 12:15 AM

What I mean is just that british people talk with a open accent. For ex You cannot sing mirror you haave to sing mirra which is how any british person talks (no exceptions):o

joxy

09-07-2002, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by ms Greenleaf
You cannot sing mirror you haave to sing mirra which is how any british person talks (no exceptions):o
How is mirror said in the US? What does it rhyme with?
There are no British people- they are English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish-
and all are UK citizens.

Galadhwen

09-07-2002, 02:15 PM

And then English doesn't have the same accents-Cornish, Gloucestershire, Mancurian, Cockney, Surrey, Essex....

Earendil

09-07-2002, 10:55 PM

wow guys i didn't know that...but i really wanna hear legolas sing omg!!! you don't how much i wanna hear hima dn in elvish oh how nice i'n thinking it would be in the movie cause the director knows that the girls would really like it and he wants the girls to be interested too! i think so but yoiu know...but i have one question in a trailer i saw they are trudging through the woods and they close up on his yes and they turned a bright color what does that mean is that where they see gandalf the white??? thanx if you know please post here!!or send me a message!! thanx again!!!:D

joxy

09-07-2002, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by Galadhwen
And then English doesn't have the same accents-Cornish, Gloucestershire, Mancunian, Cockney, Surrey, Essex....
I don't think Gloucester, Surrey, and Essex have accents of their own, but yes, I guess we have almost as many regional variations as there are in the USA!:-)
And, how DO you pronounce "mirror"?!

Galadhwen

09-08-2002, 06:10 PM

Well I think they are accents on their own... Mirror um I suppose I pronounce it "Mirra" perhaps with a slightly silent r on the end as well.
Just thinking bout how Legolas has few lines in the film in places his expression makes up for the lack of voice, when Gandalf is explaining bout the Balrog you see Legolas's face and by that you can kinda see that he knows what they're up against.
By the way Joxy what part of the UK are you from?

Diamond Took

09-09-2002, 07:16 AM

I thought Legolas was Okay. I didn't really care about him in the book as I am more of a hobbit person than an elfy person.

But i really thought it was cool when Legolas was walking on the snow, in mount cahadras, when all the others were sinking into it knee-deep! I thought that was really clever.

I'm from the south side of our humble little earth. :)

Melian Le Fay

09-09-2002, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Diamond Took

But i really thought it was cool when Legolas was walking on the snow, in mount cahadras, when all the others were sinking into it knee-deep! I thought that was really clever.

I remembered that scene like this : Everyone sank in the snow, then Legolas pulled himself out of it and started walking on top of it, while others were still trying to get out!
I know Elves are light footed, but walking on snow, while all others were sinking is a little bit against the laws of physics! I think that snow was "stuffed" after it fell, so Legolas was able to walk - as would any other be able...

And as for the way the UK-ans speak, I was trying to explain that Legolas/OB speaks a fine English, somethink like UK royalty speaks - get it? A very sofisticated pronounciation, while OB speaks a bit more commonly... his speech doesn't sound all that sophisticated! (Call me a snob, I can't help it...)
Mirra - well, I guess both Americans and UK-ans pronounce it that way...

P.S. that UK-ans was ment to be a joke, but it's not funny...:(
I ment no insult!

ms Greenleaf

09-10-2002, 03:35 AM

actually guys i am Canadian if you haven't heard of it think of Russian weather and then add eh. Anyway i think I say mirra because my Grandma was English and she taught me how to talk according to her though the queen does not speak in the high calss English --- do not ask me I cannot tell the difference

kazren

09-11-2002, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Tarien
I am an archer, so I am somewhat biased, but here goes:

Archers always get the silly, background parts! And it said he had a knife, why not another? Makes sense to me. And is a bow truely a melee weapon? No! Peter Jackson the Great finally fulfilled the dreams of A&A Archery.

Archers rule! But not more than oboists, or tenor saxes!

Okay, I was an archer for many years and I've been playing D&D longer than most of you have been alive, I imagine, and I loved the way Legolas was portrayed in the movie. What I didn't like, is that he seemed to get dialogue that was always stating the obvious, "Orcs,' being one of them. I think a lot of his dialogue in Lorien was cut, and I hope to hear it in the Extended DVD.

The costumers did a neat thing, too. Tolkien says Elves usually wear silver and gold, yet he said Legolas was in greens and browns. The costume designers took both statments and blended them, so that Legolas wears a silver tunic under his jerkin. Cool.

And I loved the costumes of the Lorien Elves. I bought the castings to use with some of my higher level Elven Healer and Fighter characters. I guess I could use them for mages, too, since they don't wear armor.

And I loved the Elven armor. The Elrond casting has it. I hear that they're going to be selling the sword replicas - including Elrond/Arwen's sword and the long swords used by the Elves of the Last Alliance.

Save your pennies, gamers.

Earendil

09-12-2002, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Millena

I remembered that scene like this : Everyone sank in the snow, then Legolas pulled himself out of it and started walking on top of it, while others were still trying to get out!
I know Elves are light footed, but walking on snow, while all others were sinking is a little bit against the laws of physics! I think that snow was "stuffed" after it fell, so Legolas was able to walk - as would any other be able...

well if your talking about not in the movie as in how there did it it was of course compressed so that Legolas was able to walk upon it but if your talking in the movie then i have to say that there are no physics when it comes to tolkien elves are light footed and i think it was a great representation of that fact!:) adn also yes i'm very happy with the movie Legolas because thats how i alwyas imagined Legolas...handsome, light footed, soft voice and Deep intense eyes...so yeah i am happy:D :D

kazren

09-12-2002, 06:04 AM

Tolkien's Elves could walk on snow because they were not fully of the physical Middle-Earth realm. They were actually light (as in sun ray light) beings who came to Middle Earth after the Silmarils were stollen.

In the book, when Fordo is on the Rivendell side of the ford and the Nazgul are threatening him from across the waters, Glorfindel is there fighting them and Frodo sees him as pure light. Later Gandalf explains that to him when he awakens in Rivendell.

I think they lit Arwen's arrival scene that way to get that 'light being' aspect across.

Melian Le Fay

09-13-2002, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Earendil

adn also yes i'm very happy with the movie Legolas because thats how i alwyas imagined Legolas...handsome, light footed, soft voice and Deep intense eyes...so yeah i am happy:D :D

Well my comment on elven light-footness was about the way it was represented in the film - a little bit litterally, I'd say. I don't think the term "Light-footed" means litterally that, but it describes ones ability to walk fastly, lightly, softly, not to make any sounds...
But I definitely agree withj your comment!!!!!:p :D :cool:

Melian Le Fay

09-13-2002, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by Confusticated

Glorfindel looked as white light to Frodo because Glorfindel exists in both worlds at once because he has been to the blessed realms, however Arwen has not; she would not show as white light as did he.

I understood Glorfindel's existance in both worlds not just because he was in Aman, but also because he expirienced death... And that's why the Nazgul could see him - because they were naither living nor dead...
But maybe I'm wrong, I've read the books some time ago, and that was before I read the Sil, so I suppose I didn't fully understand Tolkien's concept of his world...
I also think that PJ took Arwen's radiance quite literally, he thought - Gorfindel was as light, let's put Arwen in the film and make her just like him. Though, when I watched the film, I thought of it as some sort of Frodo's impression - she was an Elven princess, beautifull, and all Elves have some sort of radiance...And Frodo was almost passed out...

Melian Le Fay

09-13-2002, 11:22 PM

Hey, thanks for the chapter! Like I said, I' read the books only once, so some parts I just forgot or didn't understand quite at the time... Good for me I'm on this forum, I get to learn much of you, guys...:D
but I can't wait to read the books once again...
But, I really don't understand why they didn't put Glory-pants inthe film!!! Just telling about Aman, and all that would have given the film some sort of history, it would make the world more...fullfulled, I guess...

Melian Le Fay

09-14-2002, 10:40 PM

thanks, I'll check it out as soon as possible!!!
Now, a stupid question: what's "trivia" ? I know what it means in Latin, and how it's used in my language, but, what does it mean in English....?:confused:

kazren

09-15-2002, 12:56 AM

Trivia is basically useless little facts, like how many dimples are on a golf ball or how many movies did Spencer Tracy make with Kathryn Hepburn. They don't help you survive or grow better crops, they're just pieces of information we pick up in life that are mildly interesting.

So here are some trivia questions. Don't look at the answers below until you've given them a go.

1: Whom did Gimli ride with between Fangorn and Edoras?

2: Whom did Gimli ride with between Edoras and Helm's Deep?

3: Whom did Gimli ride with between Helm's Deep and Isengard?

4: Whom did Gimli ride with on the Paths of the Dead?

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1: Gandalf 2: Eomer 3 & 4: Legolas

How many did you get right?

ms Greenleaf

09-15-2002, 09:00 PM

Another thing i liked about elves (yes this is off topic) is there yearning to go to the ocean, I mean if you have ever been to the open ocean (harbours and bays do not count) and see the breakers it really calls to you (me anyway) Ps if middle Earth is europe then the elves went to Canada:D

Melian Le Fay

09-16-2002, 10:19 PM

Well, Kazren... I got only 2 right... Damn!:D I just have to read the books again! And again! And...
But thanks for your "trivial" answer!:) :)
It turned out it means the same thing like in my language...

kazren

09-17-2002, 04:16 AM

Originally posted by Millena
Well, Kazren... I got only 2 right... Damn!:D I just have to read the books again! And again! And...
But thanks for your "trivial" answer!:) :)
It turned out it means the same thing like in my language...

Don't feel bad. I've read the books way over 30 times now and this time through I just paid attention to that fact and wow, it surprised me!

Earendil

09-18-2002, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by ms Greenleaf
Another thing i liked about elves (yes this is off topic) is there yearning to go to the ocean, I mean if you have ever been to the open ocean (harbours and bays do not count) and see the breakers it really calls to you (me anyway) Ps if middle Earth is europe then the elves went to Canada:D

yes i totally agree the ocean is one of my most favorite places to be...i study marine bio right now and i love to go to the ocean and i LOVE sailing which reminds me of Legolas for some "odd" reason...:D