Films mistakes (continuity etc)

[ssgrif]

Hello all,

Its been a while since I posted here last, and I've found something interesting thatr I'd like to share with you all.

Check out this web-site (http://www.movie-mistakes.com/top.php) which provides a top 10 list of films detailing their mistakes (continuity, not references to the book)

It was interesting to find out that FOTR came 3rd with 116 mistakes, some of them might be of interest to you.

Interesting if any of you could actually add anything there (maybe you already have?).

Check it out

:)

[Gandalf White]

Hmmmmmmmm.........

Very interesting.
Most of the mistakes are TOTALLY dismissable, except for just a handful. I think the worst one is that Frodo's sword didn't shine blue when they were surrounded by orcs in Moria.

Except for a couple of others it was total nit-picking.:D

[Talimon]

The movie is packed with little secrets, if you know where to look. Most of them aren't mistakes, and those that are are hardly noticeable unless you look for them. But half the fun is looking for the small stuff. That is, once you've gotten over the movie itself it's just fun to pay attention to all the details.

[ReadWryt]

My favorite is still the fact that Bilbo stands directly in front of the fireplace, between it and Gandalf, and casts no shadow on the wizard...DOH! Guess shooting them at two totally different times wasn't such a great idea after all...

[Talimon]

I actually didn't notice that one... Are you talking about the fire that he's got the tea going on? If so his shadow wouldn't reach Gandalf to begin with. And there is a window in the room, and it's daylight, so I doubt his shadow would even be noticeable.

One of my favorite little tibits is the Nazgul's horse saying "Hi". Also the three trolls from the hobbit, not to mention PJ's car.

[Goldberry344]

i noticed a lot of these, but i think these people have no life and are overanylizing the movie. thats just me.

[Gandalf White]

I totally agree with you, goldberry. But hey, this guys web-site is extremely popular. Over-analyzing is the perfect word.

[Talimon]

Listen, for a 3 hour movie with special effects LotR has an amazingly low number of mess-ups. The fact that people notice them all is more due to the fact that the movie is so popular. People go to the see the movie over and over again, and half the reason is because there is so much visual detail. FotR is one of those movies that is made up vissually out of more then immediately meets the eye. It's fun to look at how much detail you can catch, from some crazy extra in the Shire to camera angles in Bree. It's a visually stunning movie, and as people see it over and over they notice both the painstaking details as well as the slip ups.

[Thorin]

I can't believe all the technical mistakes people are finding in this movie. And people have labeled ME the biggest nit-picking weenie on this website....I'll have all of you know that I never noticed ONE technical error in the movies....I just don't pay any attention to those unless they are glaringly obvious...:D

And Talimon, you were mentioning that you would have liked to see a 4 hour movie on DVD but that it wouldn't work in the theatres....I tend to disagree...

Kenneth Branagh's Hamlet was shown in the theatres at 4 hours....Yes it could be dull (and was in parts) if one is not familiar with the story....I lived through it and would recommend the movie to anyone...It is too be commended for it's authenticity in staying true in story and dialogue....

Now take a slam-bang, action packed special effects movie like LoTR and imagine how much it captured attention....Though 3 hours long, I felt like the movie FLEW by and was over so quick. For a nit-picking weenie like me who was wincing at almost every other scene, and pulling it apart that is pretty darn good....I think that 4 hours wouldn't have been much of a stretch for the way the movie grabbed the average movie goer's attention.

[Goldberry344]

i noticed a lot of these mistakes, but the one about the horse's bit, there are logicall explinations! the horse itself didnt need a harsh bit, but a Nazgul horse would. silly. some of these mistakes are ludircous, i mean, its ludicrous that someone acctually picked up on them. i've seen the movie 8 times and i didnt notice more than half of the mistakes, you could only pick up on them if you went to the movie to be a nitwit and look for them.

but that's just me.

[Talimon]

There are 3 "good" secrets. I don't call them mistakes, because that's simply not what they are.

When Sam says, "If I take one more step...", look far in the distance. You can see a car break between the dust. It's not obvious if you don't look, but if you do there's no doubt about it. This is a little thing of PJ's, because he puts his car in all his movies. I knew before I saw the movie, and was worried he would put it in some place that would be way out of context. Luckily he kept it really secret so it doesn't ruin anything.

The other secret is when the rider comes over them when they are hidden. Pay attention to the horse. He neighs, and his neighing ends with an astounding, "Hi." There is no mistake about this, it's obvious that it was put there on purpose. Again, if you don't know it's there you have no chance of noticing it.

The last one (there are probably more that I'm forgetting) is the 3 trolls from the hobbit. This is after Frodo get's stabbed and Aragorn lays him down in the forest and sends Sam off. Where Frodo is lying you can see the three stone trolls, clearly from the Hobbit. In fact, if you pay close attention, you can even see the scorched ground where thier fire was of old (kind of inaccurate considering the time difference, but still cool). There are more I'm just forgetting.

As for a 4 hour movie, while I'd watch it for sure, probably just as many times as I've watched this one, others might not agree. Among the astounding praise from critics, the one small criticism that I've heard from the non-readers is that the movie is just a bit too long. I thing the length is too short, but then that goes to show you the difference in taste if you haven't read the book. The extended DVD will cure my appetite.

[Thorin]

Originally posted by Talimon
There are 3 "good" secrets. I don't call them mistakes, because that's simply not what they are.

When Sam says, "If I take one more step...", look far in the distance. You can see a car break between the dust. This is a little thing of PJ's, because he puts his car in all his movies..

The other secret is when the rider comes over them when they are hidden. Pay attention to the horse. He neighs, and his neighing ends with an astounding, "Hi."

...the 3 trolls from the hobbit. Where Frodo is lying you can see the three stone trolls, clearly from the Hobbit.

I'm a little appalled at the fact that PJ was egotistical enough that he had to stick his car in a movie where the concept of cars is totally foreign....That bothers me...

The horse thing cracks me up! What a horrid error....I sure hope that that was an honest audial error. "Hi" ...snicker. I'm tempted to go see it a second time just to hear that.....Almost tempted.

What I don't understand is PJ and others justifing cutting out Glorfindel and putting in Arwen so the non-Tolkienaudience doesn't get confused, and then they stick in three miscellaneous trolls from another story where people can notice them....Hey, that'll cut down on the confusion quotient!

Some people say that the trolls were a little dig for the "die-hard fans"....Yeah, well, some of us die-hard fans could have used without the unexplained stone trolls that don't contribute to the story and had Arwen's character done right instead....That would have impressed this die-hard fan much more.

[Goldberry344]

i looked for the car the last 5 times i went to see the movie, i couldnt find it. i didnt hear hte horse say hi either, but i never heard of that one until today.

i think they got rid of glorfindel to keep the character line simple. if they kept in too many of the "extra" characters, like Tom and Glorfindel, it would be too confusing. these chars could be replaced, or omitted, because they dont really add to the development of the story.

[Talimon]

The horse thing is obvious, and I cannot believe it's an error. I mean, I've heard the last two times, and it sounds as obvious as anything.

To be honest about the car, I'm almost positive I've seen it. You can see for sure a whole gust of wind flying in the air down that road, much in the same fashion as though a car were driving down the road. It may be a wagon, but I've heard that you can see the break lights go on if you pay close attention.

The trolls don't make anything confusing, because no one in the movie comments on them. For all people know it's just a bit of scenery.

[Goldberry344]

i didnt see the car, though i looked, and i didnt hear the horse, either. oh well.

[Legolas_lover12]

anyone who noticed most of these things obviously has NO life.:D :D :D :D