Members List

[Ancalagon]

First and foremost, let me extend my greatest thanks and appreciation to the Webmaster for the inclusion of 'The Guild of Ost-in-Edhil' to the forum.

Now on to business; the following members have met and accepted the entrance requirements;

1. Grond (Has left to begin a new Guild with which to challenge us)
2. Thorin
3. 7Doubles or Eorl the Young as he will be commonly referred to:)
4. Turgon or Turgon the 'nearly old enough in two months'!
5. Chrysophalax
6. Rangerdave
7. Greenwood
8. Gothmog
9. Nom or 'de plume' as he is known in certain circles!
10. Walter
11. Aldanil
12. JeffF
13. Tar-Elenion
14. Chymaera
15. Daisy
16. Parrot
17. Arvedui
18. Edhel-dûr
19. Tyaronumen
20. Pale-King
21. Ravenna
22. Proudfoots
23. Bethelarien

I offer you the warmest welcome possible into this 'Fortress of the Eldar.' You now have free reign to offer wit, wisdom, debate and challenge under the name of the Guild. If you feel the need to start a thread for the Guild members to participate in, the floor is open to you. If you wish to start an RPG you have the full support of your Guild members in the writing, for all here are more than capable to add their penmanship to the fray. Enjoy this hallowed ground and post often.

Others I have no doubt will follow along shortly to join these hardened weather-stained ancients of Middle-Earth.

The Guild of Ost-in-Edhil rules will be posted shortly and arrangements made to begin the order of business.

[Ancalagon]

Just a note to all those new members we now have in the Guild, welcome:)

Please feel free to begin offering up your wit and wisdom to your fellow members and let's get some heated debate underway. It is your Guild to use as you will and debate furiously amongst yourselves. Enjoy.

[Grond]

Just thought that I would post a note here that I am now back on the forum (though not quite as regularly as before.) Having said that, I am ready for Ancalagon to come up with a mind stimulating guild activity soon. Maybe we could divide up into teams and debate a certain topic. You choose, good Dragon. :)

[Ancalagon]

Ahh, Grondmeister, it is nice to see someone of the Guild actively seeking entertainment. The Guild has been somewhat lacklustre of late. I am concerned that my name appears all around the as either thread starter or last to post:(

Anyhoo, I will seek the interest of the good members for an internal debate, while I ask you to prepare the question:)

[Turgon]

Yay guys! been waiting for some good debates too (and my thirtieth!) Hopefully the new twenty-something guild will add a little spice to our debates - I hear they've got some scary people over there - Maybe a challenge is in order?

[chrysophalax]

Hee Hee! Bring it on!

[Rangerdave]

As a guild I feel we should have a mascot.
Here is my choice

I would use this as my avatar but it looks silly when reduced.
RD

[Ancalagon]

LOL@RD, you look fairly relaxed in that rocking chair my good friend:)

Anyhoo, what would you like?

1. An internal debate within the Guild to get you creative juices flowing.

or

2. Issue a challenge to another Guild or even simply a combination of members from around the forum who might be interested in a debate, since some of the Guilds are not quite ready for entering debates just yet!

The choice is yours.

[Grond]

Originally posted by Rangerdave
As a guild I feel we should have a mascot.
Here is my choice

I would use this as my avatar but it looks silly when reduced.
RD Only if you can find a way to put him into a Hobbit suit. Maybe RW could help. :)

[Grond]

Originally posted by Ancalagon
LOL@RD, you look fairly relaxed in that rocking chair my good friend:)

Anyhoo, what would you like?

1. An internal debate within the Guild to get you creative juices flowing.

or

2. Issue a challenge to another Guild or even simply a combination of members from around the forum who might be interested in a debate, since some of the Guilds are not quite ready for entering debates just yet!

The choice is yours. I have the absolutely perfect topic. I suggest we issue a challenge to the twenty-somethings as many of them were cocky, irratated or plain upset when we formed our old-timers guild. Maybe they'll be looking to kick some aged arse. I'll moderate the debate, as everyone knows that I am the most peaceable and unbiased person on this forum *sticks tongue in cheek*.

[Parrot]

Not sure if this is necessarily the right place, but the birdbrain would like to humbly request admittance to this fine guild.

[Grond]

Originally posted by Parrot
Not sure if this is necessarily the right place, but the birdbrain would like to humbly request admittance to this fine guild. As good a place as any. You've definately got my vote Parrot. I'm sure everyone else will welcome you with the same Open Arms. (deja vu... wasn't Open Arms an old Journey song?)

[Ancalagon]

Welcome aboard Parrot, your name is added above in the members list. Set in stone forever and a day:)

[7doubles]

so what is the topic of debate?

[Grond]

No one except me will know until the debate challenge is accepted by the other guild. :)

[Ancalagon]

As you may already be aware; Grond has departed from the Guild (under good terms) in order to take over 'The Guild of Tolkienologists.' I would guess that he will be seeking new members and would eagerly poach many of our esteemed Ost-in-Edhil members;)

However, I envisage fireworks between these two guilds in the future, and I can only hope that loyalties remain firmly in the Ost-in-Edhil camp!

Challenges will be fast and furious and debates; long and difficult. We shall meet fire with fire, blow with blow. Come then Grond, let us laugh together in the face of battle;)

[Grond]

It is with deep regret and some humility that I am resigning my position in the Guild of Ost-in-Edhil to take over as Guildmaster of the Guild of Tolkienologists. I love this place and you guys but Anc was disappointed in not having enough fresh meat on the table from a debate standpoint. This led to a horrendous argument between himself and me and ended up with us no longer speaking to one another.

Since he has a new standing in the forum (which will talked about in the future) he has become arrogant and mean spirited. I can no longer reside in a guild where he is Master and have therefore begun my own guild. I will be recruiting members from everyone and anywhere. I would encourage anyone in this guild who is also tired of Anc's tyrannical ravings and uncomprimising demeanor to come and sign up at the Guild of Tolkienologists.

Down with Dictatorship (Anc's way) and up with Dictatorship (my way).

All are welcome.

Anc.... I love you Man!!!! (Oops... strike that... I'm not talking to you!):mad:

[Ancalagon]

I really ought to have you on ignore, but then I would miss all the jibes and rhetoric:D

[Parrot]

We're caught between a hammer and a hard-ass; Yeeeouch!

[Ancalagon]

Parrot, don't listen to him if he comes in the night offering you rings to join him!

[Parrot]

Hmmm..... the magic words...Free Agency! He's already got me on the hook though.....

[Ancalagon]

It's good to see the strength of one's loyalties shining through;)

[Walter]

Faretheewell, Grond!

As for your new guild: vivat, crescat, floreat! (it may live, it may grow, it may flower)...

[Ancalagon]

I would like to welcome Edhel-dûr as the newest addition to the Guild of Ost-in-Edhil.

[Grond]

Only because you got to him before I did. :);):p

[Edhel-dûr]

Thank you for your wellcome, i hope to be usefull to all of you.

Mr. Grond, i´m in this Forum to help all of you and to be helped by you all XD

Greetings.

[Grond]

An important announcement from a former guild member. Each and everyone of you needs to look in on the debate thread and also the debate voting thread. It is important that we all vote. I ask everyone to vote on who they think proved their point the best and not what guild you happen to be in. I have posted a very similar message in my own guild. Goold luck, Anc. :)

[Tyaronumen]

I've been invited to join the Guild...! Soooooooo . . . here I am! Am I in? :)

Let's hear it for the glorious Hiromi: YAAAA-aaa-AY!

[Ancalagon]

If your name's on the list then you are in;)

[Lhunithiliel]

Anc, Iwas thinking of how to appologize for having refused your most kind invitation and here what I've found FOR YOU! :p
I hope you'll like it!

I tried to send it in a PM to you but the PM option does not permit attaching files.:D

Enjoy and meet you in the forums!
Lhun :p

[Walter]

Aaaah, Lhunithiliel, we still hope that you might tire the dictatorship of Grond someday and join us here under Anc's dictatorship...

Anc's really not all that bad as a slavedriver... ;)


Anc my account # is 11188-33871/00

[Parrot]

Walter, you still have a quaint account number? You must have Anc get you one of the new scannable bar-code tattoos. Makes the weekly torture sessions go much smoother; you're in and out in no time at all.

[Walter]

Parrot, where are those applied - forehead or opposite end?

Either way, you really should have PMed me with that, so that Anc doesn't get to see it before I made my decision...

[Ancalagon]

Now where did I put my red hot poker and branding Ir......Ohhh! Sorry, thinking out loud again:)

Anyhoo Lhun, thanks for the Avatar, I will put it with my spring/summer collection:)

Walter and Parrot.....you guys;)

[Walter]

Hey, I might consider a tattoo, but branding is definitely beyond my limits....

[Parrot]

Wuss.... take one for the team.

[Grond]

:p :p :p :p :p :p

[Ancalagon]

Yeah Walter, Parrot already took one for OiE and it brought tears to his eyes. Aint nothing like a good branding to sort the men from the boys:)

[Walter]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooouuuuuucccccchhhhh!

[Ancalagon]

The Guild welcomes Pale-King among us;)

Enjoy your stay at the Guild of Ost-in-Edhil.

[Walter]

Welcome Pale King, have fun in the guild.

...and enjoy the branding.;)

[Pale King]

Cheers for the invite and for welcomes:)
Just a little intro oput of courtesy: I first read Hobbit and LOTR when I was a kid and from about age 11 onwards I was pretty much instantly hooked. I guess that I wouldn't call myself a real Tolkien scholar as I've never made a proper study of the History of Middle Earth volumes (apart from the Lays of Beleriand). I've digested pretty much everything else a number of times over the years though and I'm as passionate about Tolkiens work now as I was as a teenager.

Anyway - I'm glad that there is a place here for the slightly older crowd as some of the other boards scattered around here and elsewhere on the net seem to be dominated by the usual "isn't Legolas hot?" or "is Sauron an allegory for the neuclear bomb?" or "i've noticed that Tolkien has nicked some ideas off George Lucas". Anyway, this place could be an antidote for all that so hello to all:)

[Grond]

Congratulations to the Ost-in-Edhil. It looks as if you old farts have landed another gem. Pale King, sorry that you didn't give us a shot. The Guild of Tolkienology could have used your expertise. :);)

[Ancalagon]

Hmmmmmmmm, Confusticated, posting in the Member's List of The Guild of Ost-in-Edhil? Do I sense defection in the air?

[Ravenna]

As Ancalagon has kindly invited me to join, and having fulfilled my duties as judge on the recent debate, I would be honoured if I may still be permitted to join; (grovel grovel, 'sorry I voted against you all', but you would argue the wrong side for me.:o :o ).
I've been hooked on Tolkien for something like twenty-five years, although I have to admit, I've not read much beyond UT, still since having joined the forum I have learned much and become aware of just how much more there is to learn.

[Ancalagon]

You are more than welcome Ravenna, I trust you will enjoy your stay:D

[Walter]

Welcome to our guild, Ravenna :)

Beautiful city, btw., Ravenna, that is....

[7doubles]

hi Ravena:p

[Ancalagon]

Greenwood sends his love and kisses to you all and hopes to back to the forum soon:D

[Walter]

Love - in a platonic way - I could accept, but I definitely refuse any kisses from any other male member... :p

[Ancalagon]

Where's your sense of adventure? ;)

[Walter]

Originally posted by Ancalagon
Where's your sense of adventure? ;) ummm....elsewhere... ;)

[Proudfoots]

Ancalagon offered me membership, but i notice that you are all old farts and i am but 24, personally, i am not ageist, but if any has issue with young blood, please step forward...

otherwise, i would gladdly join.

'foots

[Ancalagon]

Hmmm, it seems this 'age' issue rears its ugly head once again. I wonder if it is more trouble than it is worth? Maedhros may have been right, even though it was not intended to be descriminatory.

What do y'all think? Should we drop the age requirement and simply find some other way of enticing new members in;)

[Arvedui]

It just might be that the age-thing does refrain us from attracting some of the members of the forum who could very well have belonged here.
There are teens on this forum who knows almost as much as me about Tolkien's works. Not as much as me, of course, but almost:D :D :D

Therefore I think it might be an idea at least to discuss it.

[Ancalagon]

Well then, I guess that even though the Guild is full of oldies as it is now, we should just drop the 'age' requirements. However, I do not feel it was ever intentionally discriminatory, however it was viewed by some as such. Therefore, it seems wise to drop it altogether!

[Proudfoots]

You mean i am not being discriminated against?

it was going to be my first time (i was enjoying the perks of white, english speaking male)

damn

'foots

[Din]

I most likely dont know as much as you Arvedui, but i certianly would be pleased to join such a guild as this, if allowed to do so.

[Arvedui]

Din, I hope you were just as ironic as I was?
And 7doubles, what was that about?

[Walter]

Originally posted by Ancalagon
Well then, I guess that even though the Guild is full of oldies... What say? Who you call "oldie"? Watch it kiddo, or ya gonna make acquaintance with my walking stick... ;) :D

[Arvedui]

Well, compared to some, even I can be concidered young.:D :D :p

[Nóm]

Originally posted by 7doubles
go back to the kiddy table, Nom
I couldn't stay away, I have to address this.

It's especially funny that I am 5 years younger than 7doubles, are not there people in this guild who are more than that much older than 7doubles.

Is there some rule about posting in this thread that I do not know about? I know that non-members have posted in here before and nothing was said, but twice now I have posted here and both times some self proclaimed old person has posted an indirect insult.

Why don't we make it interesting 7doubles, how about a Tolkien debate? You can pick the topic.

[7doubles]

skidoo!

[Ancalagon]

Nom? Where did this arise from?

7Doubles, could you please explain your remarks and whether they were mean't to be offensive, which I sincerely hope they were not! Nom, what other time within this Guild have you been rebuked by a member?

[Bethelarien]

Please forgive me for saying this, but I can't seem to find a list of requirements to join this Guild, and as I am somewhat interested, could you point me in the right direction?

[Ancalagon]

Ssshhh, you'll wake the residents:)

Well, all you need do is write a 1000 word essay describing why Legolas can run on snow:D

Just kidding, well I for one will propose you, I am sure someone else will come along shortly and second you, then you are free to add the Guild name to your Location.

You can also read more in 'Who is Austin Edhil?'

[Gothmog]

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZ!!!!!! What??? Oh.

Seconded !!!

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

:D

[Walter]

Seconded too...

Oh and as you're on it: Thirds for me, pls... ;)

[Arvedui]

Since now at least four of us are awake, maybe we could get some things going here. Another inter-guild debate perhaps?
There should be a lot of possible topics in the Question Bank by now, I think??

BTW, I second Bethelarien as well. I think we could prosper from getting som new blood in here......

[Bethelarien]

Wow! Great, thanks everyone!

[Bethelarien]

Okay, I have a question. Maybe this is a dumb question. Probably, actually, knowing me. But my question is this:

Ost-in-Edhil can mean two things: City of Elves or City of Stars. Either translation could have been used, especially since the Elves loved the stars. So here is the actual question: Which did Tolkien mean?

(If this is just insanely stupid, just tell me how stupid I am and get it over with.) ;)

[Gothmog]

You cannot be in any way stupid as you have asked a question to learn something.:) I just hope that I can give you a worthy answer.

As for which translation would be used, I would say that it is most likely to be City of Stars. The Elves reveared the Stars so this would be a suitable name for their City. As for City of Elves, there were a number of cities built by the Elves and could claim this title yet none did.

This is just my opinion on the matter.

[Ancalagon]

I actually understood it to mean; 'Fortress of the Eldar'

[Jesse]

Is it possible for me to join this guild? If so, how do I go about doing that???

[Bethelarien]

Thanks for the answers, guys! Of course, I got conflicting answers, so that doesn't really answer anything, but hey! I'm not complaining!

Jesse, read the "Who is Austin Edhil" thread. I don't know if I have the "power" to propose you or not. I haven't been a member of the guild for very long.

[Turgon]

Well I've always taken Ost-in-Edhil to mean 'Fortress of the Eldar' too. That's the definition given in the index to the Silmarillion anyway.

As for membership of the guild Jesse, seeing as Bethelarien has proposed you, I will second you - welcome to the guild. Have a look around - there are some interesting discussions going on in some dark and dusty corners...:)

[chrysophalax]

Among some dark and dusty people!

[Ancalagon]

I would be happy to '3rd' you Jesse:)

Do you think there might be some conflict by being a member of two Guilds? What if you want to participate in an inter-guild debate?

[chrysophalax]

Trying to figure out how to re-insert myself into the Guild...

[Chymaera]

But Chrys' you have never left!

Present for you.;) :)

[chrysophalax]

Chymeara! I am truly speechless! *blushes, scales turn a rather nice shade of violet* That's one of the nicest thing anyone here has done for me! :D (toothy Dragon grin)

[Jesse]

Can you remove me from the member's list? I'm starting another guild of my own and am already a member of 3 other guilds. No offence or anything, but I can't keep up with THAT many guilds.

[Ancalagon]

Thank goodness we had not got around to adding you to the list Jesse, all that paperwork would have been a nightmare to process your removal;)

[Chymaera]

Originally posted by chrysophalax
Chymeara! I am truly speechless! *blushes, scales turn a rather nice shade of violet* That's one of the nicest thing anyone here has done for me! :D (toothy Dragon grin)

I am glad that you like the avatar chrysophalax.
good thing I downloaded your moondragon gif before the link broke. ;) :D

[Ol'gaffer]

May I join? I know that there must be something that even moi can do.

*prepares to be issued as janitor*

[Ancalagon]

I would certainly support your admission to the Guild, though it is Turgon the King who cements these deals;)

[Bethelarien]

I second it. Or third it. Or whatever. :o

[Ol'gaffer]

Oh, thank you. Thank you so much! *in tears*

[Arvedui]

Another Guildmember from the Nordic countries?

A warm welcome indeed!:)

[Ol'gaffer]

I'm no member yet. Turgon the king should decide wether I can join or not.

[Bethelarien]

Key word being yet. I doubt he'll turn you down. I mean, come on, he let me in! :D

[Walter]

Not that I have been overly active in the guild, but nonetheless I'd like to let you know that due to other commitments and activities I won't be around much in the near future. I hope to be able to throw in a post occasionally...

[Bethelarien]

*sigh* Since I don't do much (anything) in this guild, I am hereby resigning my membership. I do this regretfully, and hopefully I can pop in sometimes in discussions or whatnot. My apologies.

[Arvedui]

You wouldn't mind reconsidering, would you?

Actually, if 'not doing much' was a reason for all of us to resign from the Guild, I am afraid that it would be rather empty soon.

[Bethelarien]

LOL! Still, I want to join the Guild of Tolkienology, but I can't if I'm a member of this one.:mad: And since I think I could get more out of the GoT, I have decided to withdraw my membership here.

[Scatha]

Can anyone explain that to me, why someone cannot be a member of both the OiE and the GoT?

I thought it was possible to join every guild one wishes to, without meeting 'requirements' of any sort?

[Elendil3119]

There are 4 debating guilds:

Guild of Ost-in-Edhil
Guild of Tolkienology
Guild of Scholar's Hall
Guild of the Periaur

Someone can only be a member of one of these guilds at a time to avoid conflicts during inter-guild debates and such, or at least that is my understanding of it...

[Ancalagon]

There is no problem that I can see with joining the Guild of Ost-in-Edhil, though I would suggest that a member decides where their loyalties lie in tournaments. However, I will leave the question of entry and such decision-making to Turgon who alone holds the keys to the gates of this fine fortress!
Seek for the one they call Turgon and within his hidden Kingdom you may find the answers to these riddles:)

[Scatha]

Originally posted by Elendil3119
There are 4 debating guilds:

Guild of Ost-in-Edhil
Guild of Tolkienology
Guild of Scholar's Hall
Guild of the Periaur

Someone can only be a member of one of these guilds at a time to avoid conflicts during inter-guild debates and such, or at least that is my understanding of it...


Uhmm, Elendil, for the inter-guild debates there are 5 guilds, aren't there? ;) Don't tell me I just spent a week debating for GoE/D and that it doesn't count for anything. *grins*

[Elendil3119]

Well, there are officially 4 "debating guilds" that were in existance before the Tournament. In the Tournament, it was decided that all guilds (including the GoO, GoE, and GoD) should have a chance to participate. But the old rule still stands, that someone can only be a member of one of the 'official' debating guilds, to avoid confusion. That help? :)

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Scatha
Can anyone explain that to me, why someone cannot be a member of both the OiE and the GoT?

I thought it was possible to join every guild one wishes to, without meeting 'requirements' of any sort?

Originally posted by Elendil3119
Someone can only be a member of one of these guilds at a time to avoid conflicts during inter-guild debates and such, or at least that is my understanding of it...

This was sort of an unofficial rule and it looks like it's not as rigid anymore. Several people that are participating in the Debate Tournament are members of two guilds that are IN the tournament. The only 'problem' is that a member must plead their debating allegiance to only one guild.

[Ancalagon]

Ithrynluin, your avatar frightens me!

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Ancalagon
Ithrynluin, your avatar frightens me!

Not you too, Ancky! *is happy having fulfilled his desire to scare people* ;)

[Ancalagon]

Is it the Stephen King clown?

[Ithrynluin]

Yup - It's "It" by Stephen King. And if you thought the mini-series was scary, you absolutely must read the book!

[Scatha]

Thanks for clearing that up, cousin IT. ;)

The book is much better then the movie indeed, Ith.