Stupidest things non Tolkien fans have said about LOTR.

[FREEDOM!]

K, i understand!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eliot]

That is an awesome avatar STrider(Aragorn. You and me are true Americans:)

[HLGStrider]

I'm personally not to crazy about the Arwen thing... It's going to majorly take away from Eowyn's part... Eowyn is the warrior babe... she doesn't need the elfess taking away the spotlight...

[Wonko The Sane]

I know!! Exactly!!! And Tolkien wrote it that way for a reason! Who is PJ to go and mess with it?!?

[Húrin Thalion]

Hi I'm new here!

I would just like to say that the people who say that they think it's silly to like an imaginary world (and I know too much people who say such things) are extremely wrong. If you think about it, is there a reality that we can call absolute? Everything that you experience is only as real as your brain tells you it is, the world as you see it is partly shaped by signals from your eyes, ears, nose and other sensors and partly by your memories. I do not see Tolkien's world as more real than this one but does one world exclude another?

Bye from Måns

[HLGStrider]

I disagree totally with your reasoning. There is reality and absolute... However, Tolkien is a paralell to reality. Partially an escape but partially our world as we'd sort of like it to be.

Also there is my friend who told me that Tolkien wasn't real. The only reality was Star Trek.

[Wonko The Sane]

I know where this Elen person is trying to come from. I think she's read too much Hume though.
(That's David Hume for you non-academics ;) )
Here's the thing, it's true that what we perceive shapes our reality, and it's true that there's nothing that makes one person's reality more "real" than anothers.
But the "Tolkien's world is as real as ours, and more so" is faulty, and so are your friends for accusing you of being wrong to LIKE Tolkien.
First of all it doesn't have to be real for you to love it, and second of all, the reader MAKES it real, in their head and in their heart.

But to say "what makes one world more real than another" is faulty as well. Because Tolkien's world is something he CREATED, and it ISN'T real, no more than Star Trek.

[FREEDOM!]

Originally posted by Eliot
That is an awesome avatar STrider(Aragorn. You and me are true Americans:)

Thank You, Yes I feel like we are the only TRUE Americans in this forum!!!!!!!!!!

[Aranaug]

As far as reading the book vs seeing the movie. I agree that reading the book is a much better experience (though the movie helped some people I know read the book because they could picture the characters and events better, or so they said). If they'll only listen when you read, but not read alone; my suggestion is the wonderful thing called an audio book. You're not reading it, but you have to concentrate on it just not as much. That should get them through the book much faster. I read the trilogy during last school year (I read The Hobbit three years ago, and The Sil over this last summer) and then when I listened to the audio books this summer I got through the books A LOT faster. Sure it's cheating but at least you don't have to see the movie first.

I've actually reccomended the audio books to some people I know because I'm trying to get them into LOTR. And I know that they won't try hard enough to get into Fellowship long enough to at least get to Bree. (Partly because the reason he's reading it is that I am insisting [demanding, same difference ;) ] that he read it. Reason being is I'm trying to get him off his high horse about Harry Potter. And he says that the LOTR movie drags on and on. Which it, in my opinion, doesn't. So I know he won't get very far as the first half of the book drags (in comparison to the rest anyhow) and is filled with nonessential (to the main plot, but Tolkien still shouldn't be altered) characters and happens.

And as far as ME not being real. I agree that it isn't. But the critics who say we live in some fantasy world should realize that a. most of us don't b. world peace is probably a less likely to happen fantasy along with the stop of racism, etc.

[Wonko The Sane]

The one BAD thing about reading the book first is that you get angry and frustrated at the movie for leaving so much out...
At least I did.
I went through the whole first movie feeling like I was skimming the surface of a lake or something but never getting in deep.
It moves to fast...the WHOLE thing felt like a trailer for the actual movie just because there were so many things they only touched on and so many things they left unfilmed.

So in some ways it's better to see the movie first...so that you don't hate the movie outright the first time around...
I had to watch it about 5 more times before I really started to appreciate it.

[Elu Thingol]

Yes the audio books are a good idea; however, they are very expensive, do libraries have them?

[Wonko The Sane]

Depends on which library you hit. Try libraries for the deaf. Those will definitely have them. :D

[Theoden]

I was traveling with a guy who wouldn't even look at a copy of LotR and his excuse was:
"I don't read sappy novels."
(He was my enemy in my heart from that moment on. Sappy my foot.)
:D

-me

[Wonko The Sane]

Sappy?! SAPPY?!?!

You should've smacked him with a board!

[Theoden]

I would have, but I was translating for him and it would not be polite to smack my employer.

[Wonko The Sane]

Good thinking there, Theoden! That's why you make the big bucks!! ;)

Hehe. :)

*dances* Today started really bad..but then it was really good. I like today!

[Theoden]

Yes, yes, but loyal Tolkien fans must suffer when money and the making there of comes between them and their first and only love.
:D

-me

[HLGStrider]

What were you transalating? What from what? I want to learn SPANISH!!! I love Spanish. Very warm language... very flowing... can't stand guttral langauges... I don't know which languages are guttral but when I hear sometime guttral on TV i know it... I say, that's guttral. I don't like it...

hmm... what's the sudden two-by-four obsession, W? I could hook you up with my uncle at the lumber plant?

Speaking of W. I saw a guy who looked a lot like President Bush at Diary Queen tonight... had the same nose and hair... really weird. Wasn't him though.

I'm pretty much an American myself, guys... if I get what you mean by it. I try not to be too ethnocentric, but I'm pretty constitutional... etc.

[Theoden]

Actually, I translate from Russian into English and vice versa. I would not say that Russian is a gutral language, but I have been told that it is by those who do not speak it fluently. But what do they know, anyway. I mean one of these people had the nerve to say that Lord of the Rings was a sappy novel! Who wants to listen to them?

:)

-me

[Eliot]

I would love to learn German. That would be awesome. I'm half English and half German anyway.

[Theoden]

yes, speaking another language is alot of fun and it can make you some mulla too. :D German is more gutral than Russian but I do not think that makes it an undesirous language. But, I do not speak it fluently so what would I know?... :P

[Húrin Thalion]

Hello again!

I would like to say a few things about Tolkien's how real Tolkien's world is in comparison to ours. Thanks for the answers!

Quote:
But to say "what makes one world more real than another" is faulty as well. Because Tolkien's world is something he CREATED, and it ISN'T real, no more than Star Trek.
End of Quote

I think that I look at reality in a different way from you. I wouldn't say that this world exists if there weren't living beings to live in it. I don't really think that Eä is somewhere out there, my argument was that this world (earth) only exists in our minds. If one world can exist in our mind why not another one? The only difference is that you are not actually participating. If you have another opinion I would like to hear it and by the way I haven't read Hume. These thoughts are from me.

Elen Carnë

[Wonko The Sane]

Originally posted by HLGStrider

hmm... what's the sudden two-by-four obsession, W? I could hook you up with my uncle at the lumber plant?


I don't really know...Snaga's been smacking people with boards lately...I think I may have picked it up from him...can't really tell actually.

*muses*

Elen, You SHOULD read Hume. Because he makes the same kind of arguments you are making. The "what exists exists only insofar as we perceive it and our minds surround it" type of thing...At least I THINK It was Hume....almost positive.
You should also read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the one where they meet the ruler of the Universe. His thoughts are almost the same as Hume's...interesting actually.
You only know that which you perceive, but how do you know what you perceive is the same as what others perceive, and blah blah blah.
The thing is, that our world exists in MORE than just our minds. If I die tomorrow the world will still exist. Nothing is gone but me from it.
But Tolkien's world is a story. It's not real.
Sure it exists in our minds, but as a fantasy.

[HLGStrider]

I find that sort of argument to normally be an attempt for humans to feel superhuman... as if they somehow made or control the galaxy... Which they didn't and couldn't.

Of course it doesn't really matter if it is real or not though I still maintain that whatever it is it is more real than Star Trek...

[Wonko The Sane]

That's true...I agree. But only because I HATE ST!

[aDaHe]

but it is more likely that you will find a guy with a bow or arrow then a big star ship like on ST.
personally i believe that the imagination of one's heart is an indication of a persons youth and also that they are able to feel human emotion at a basic level.

The less that you dream of laughing, the less that you will.

thats is the same for all the deep human emotions.

[HLGStrider]

Just don't dream yourself into a crush...That is a bad idea... trust me.

Where was I?

"Sometimes you have to look reality squarely in the eye and deny it."

Garrison Keilor.

[Húrin Thalion]

I see you're point but i cannot agree with you yet. If all humans died tomorrow this world would cease to exist as we see it. If everyone that knew anything of Tolkien's ME died and all copies were burned (I shudder at the thought) that world would "die". Now I have to go to school for some reason.

Elen

[Lantarion]

Originally posted by Elen Carnë
I don't really think that Eä is somewhere out there, my argument was that this world (earth) only exists in our minds.
Uh..what? The Earth only exists in our minds? Wow, that's funny, then I guess everything I'm experiencing is a humongous illusion, and all this interactivity is a side-effect of the images in my head! :rolleyes:
Heh, sorry for the sarcasm, but I'm rather confused. What do you mean, the Earth only exists in our minds? We can experience this world through all our senses, doesn't that make it concrete? :confused:
And btw, excuse me for being such a nuisance, but in theory if Eä does exist (well, it does in a way! What is the Universe?), it would be all around us and we would be a part of it, rather than it being somehwhere distant. ;)

Welcome to the forum! :)

[Wonko The Sane]

My thoughts EXACTLY, Lantarion. Although you posed them better than I did.

The point is that this world, OUR world, exists in far more than our minds.

[Húrin Thalion]

Good point! What I mean is that all our senses send signals to our brain which decides what to do with the information. Sometimes something screws up and you misunderstand reality. What I mean is that Eä is neither distant nor all around us, it is in us! There is no world if there are no one to experience AND put the world into a system. If you see this as the conditions of unreality Eä could exist.

Thanks for the welcome!

Elen

[EverEve]

ooh! Person I haven't said hi to yet! HELLO!!!!!

Omg, guess what my mom (my own mother!) said:

*at a halloween store looking for costume*

Mother: I still think that dress would be sorta peasentish for you.
ME: Mom, I dont want to be a peasent. I want to be an ELF.
Mother: Well, arent they the same thing?
ME: NO! Elves are some of the most noble creatures in the face of M.E.! Totally opposite of peasents, pretty much.
Mother: Oh. I thought the were the same thing.

*sigh* some people....

[Húrin Thalion]

Hello to you too!

Elen

[HLGStrider]

Peasantish?

I should probably post more to make this more than a one word post but that word is my whole point... or maybe I should say...

Peasantish!?!?!?!? :confused:

[EverEve]

yah i know...a peasent...geez....

[aDaHe]

has she seen lotr or read it

her opinion is probly based on 2 things

a mothers ingnorance of everything kool (yes my mother too:confused: )
or a false reading of the book or viewing of the movie

[HLGStrider]

Moms can be cool... can so can so can so.... Not one myself... plan to be someday...

Isn't there a style of clothing called Peasant? I mean I think there are "Peasant" blouses and stuff... though I really don't know much about fashion."

[EverEve]

My mom can be cool, but...a peasent....ok, over-reacting.

No she hasnt read the books...and she went to the movie with me the day it came out, but not since.

[HobbitGirl]

Speaking of an Elf costume, what would that consist of? I know you have to have a cloak, but what would you wear underneath?

[LadyGaladriel]

Originally posted by HobbitGirl
Speaking of an Elf costume, what would that consist of? I know you have to have a cloak, but what would you wear underneath?
It really depends what type of elf you want to be. If you want to be a more silvian elf then wear forestly colours like Brown and green.

[Wonko The Sane]

My friend and I were talking about what a stoopid Elfling I've been lately and she was like, "You can't be an elf. I'm an elf. You're not an elf. You're not vertically challenged"
She says she's an elf because she's pretty short and so the boy she loves calls her that...
Anyway...
I said, "No...we're different kinds of Elves. I'm a Tolkien elf...and they're tall."

She said, "Oh what...you get to be a flowery flowy beautiful elf and I have to be a Keebler elf? What's up with that!"

And I said, "That's not what I said. But you can be a hobbit if you want."

And she said, "Uh uh...they've got that hairy foot thing going on." And I said, "Well then stop complaining..." and she said "You're not an elf. Lord of the Rings is pretty dumb anyway...I'm pretty sure they don't know what real elves look like."

That's when I hit her...or would have if it weren't a phone convo and she weren't 3000 miles away.
Other than that...yeah.

[Lantarion]

Originally said by Wonko's friend
"I'm pretty sure they don't know what real elves look like."
:D LOL

[Wonko The Sane]

I know!! What was she THINKING?! And usually she's EXACTLY like me...but on this I think she's a bit jealous...she doesn't like to be short...and she doesn't like it that I might be an elf and she might have to share...
It's to do with the boy I believe...

[EverEve]

LOL! *snort* Dont know what real elves look like!

[LadyGaladriel]

Originally posted by Wonko The Sane
I know!! What was she THINKING?! And usually she's EXACTLY like me...but on this I think she's a bit jealous...she doesn't like to be short...and she doesn't like it that I might be an elf and she might have to share...
It's to do with the boy I believe...


*giggles* well who would like to have to share being an elf?!

[Wonko The Sane]

True true...but I think she's conceded...and I think we're both elves now. ;) Cause I called myself a stoopid elf on the phone last night and she didn't "correct me". ;)

[Wonko The Sane]

Oh my god...I was talking to this guy yesterday and I was talking about something...and I was having to explain circumstances and such and he was ALREADY being judgemental just because of said circumstances so I was feeling REALLY hostile and I rolled my eyes and said, "You're going to think I'm really stupid and a huge loser, but I'm a big Lord of the Rings fan and I post on these LotR message boards" and he was like, "I don't think you're a dork..." (which was a surprise considering how judgemental he was being about everything ELSE) "I LOVE that movie" and he went on to talk about it. However he had never read the book...
And he was like, "I loved that movie but it was so long. And I was disappointed, the ending was awful. I waited through the whole movie and I was so psyched for them to take the ring thing to that place and fight that dude, but they didn't." I was like, "Um, that was only the first movie...they don't destroy the ring until later." And he was like, "Oh yeah, there's a sequel huh? Do they fight the evil dude then?" And I was like, "No, they don't destroy the ring until the third movie" He's like, "There's three of them?" And then he was like, "Why do they have to destroy the ring? They already have it, the bad guy doesn't, why don't they like, use it or something?" And I sighed and had to explain it all to him, starting with The Hobbit and how Bilbo found the ring.
But he didn't know what a hobbit was and kept referring to everyone as "The short dudes" for the hobbits, or "the guy with the long hair" for Legolas or "the guy with the chin stubble" for Aragorn or "evil guy with long beard" for Saruman, and "the other guy with the long beard" for Gandalf. But he didn't say "long beard" he said "the guy with the..." and then made this pulling motion with his hands away from his chin as if he were stroking an invisible beard. It was too funny.
I was like, "I'm sorry. I don't mean to make fun of you, but there's a thread on the forum I mentioned that's called "stupidest things non-lotr of the rings fans have said" and I HAVE to post this convo there." He looked a little miffed but I think he'll be ok.
In fact...he must've been miffed because he swiftly changed the subject back to the reason he was was mocking and judging and repremanding me in the first place....*rolls eyes*
That's bothersome. I'm sick of hearing about it.

[aDaHe]

i feel for you man,
but it is up to us as the worlds repersentatives of tlotr to be kind and gentle on the ignorant and largely pitiful way inwhich the world has revolved, with out the loveing knowleadge of tlotr.
i dont know who this is by. but here goes...

it is not for us to hate them for their ignorance; neither is it up to us to love them for their unguided wisdom. Nay my friends, it is for us to do little more then punish them and pity them for their really stupid way in which they just don't get it!




PS i actually just made that up! who likes it?

[EverEve]

I loves it. The precioussss lovesss it...:)

[Aragorn21]

I never really heard anything like that but I didn't know people were so STUPID!





The enraged aragron

[aDaHe]

Originally posted by EverEve
I loves it. The precioussss lovesss it...:)
thanks, im thinking of starting a poetry thread, but it is all in the planning stages.

anyway yes aragorn21 people are that stupid.
but like i said they arent stupid, just horribly ignorant

[HobbitGirl]

Actually, there already is a poetry thread going. I don't know where it vanished to, but the last I saw of it was in the Guild of Writers.

[aDaHe]

there is i found out as soon as i got off

by Ariana Undomeil(spelling)

and it is mostly a tolkien poetry thread but she said i can still do my own if it is good enough

[tom_bombadil]

This might of been posted but some austarlians thought it was rubbish because it had a cliffhanger which wouldnt be resolved they didnt know it had a sequel

[Frodorocks]

Once when I was coming out of the theatre I heard someone say, "Isn't it weird the way they changed the guy's name from Strider to Aragorn?" I felt like turning around and telling her that his real name was Elessar and that he had many names including, Strider, Wingfoot, Dunidain(sp?:D ) Estel, Aragorn, and many others.:rolleyes:

[Wonko The Sane]

Right...that's what some guy said to me too...
The same guy that wanted to know what a hobbit was.

I was like, "The hobbits all got together to leave The Shire so they could..."
And he was like, "What's a hobbit" and I was like, "The short dudes with the pointy ears and hairy feet" and he was like "Oooh, like that Bobo dude!" And I was like..."Do you mean Frodo or Bilbo?" and a stern look and he said, "The one that drank all the beer" and I was like, "Merry or Pippin" and he was like, "The one that had that carrot up his ***" and I was like...
"Yeah...ok...so that was Merry and not Bobo at all...which works out since there IS no Bobo."
And he was like, "Why didn't they just keep the ring? If it's going to be used to rule the world and they don't want evil dude to have it and since he doesn't have it cos they have it why do they care?! They're like trying to keep it away from him when it already IS away from him..."

And that's when I shot myself.

[LadyElf]

Sadly enough all of these were said by my own aunt. *sigh* Where did I go wrong?

1) Whats with Frodo? Is he like a little kid or something?
2) The ending was horrible! It just stopped!
3) There's a book?
4) Does that ranger guy marry that elf?
5) Does that ranger guy die?
6) What about the blonde guy? Does he die?
7) Those other two kids were captured! And it didn't even show what happened to them!

After she said this my brother and my cousin dragged me kicking and screaming into the house. (They're both Ringers.)


I've also heard the Elves called Fairies but it wasn't from my aunt.

[EverEve]

*Shiver, Rocks back in forth on her heels* God help them...

I reading it again..the book i mean..its still just as good as it was when i first read it.

[Athelas]

A couple are walking out of FOTR; they get to their car and she says: "That was really dumb, all those Elves and Dwarves; it was so stupid." He says: "I don't think we should see each other anymore."

[Mablung]

This was from my cousin (older one too): Gondor? Isnt that a bird?

[Shadowfax]

Hey, my mother started yelling at me for taking her to see a 'dirty' movie! She said it was clearly sexual, with all those men hugging and kissing, and a whole kingdom named 'Gonad'...yeah, and she also wants me to go to a shrink for liking fantasy...sigh...

[Mablung]

Well Im sure the shrinks would like having lots of patients of that meant someone was crazy. Im sure she'll have a fit over the whole slave thing with Gollum Frodo and Sam.

[Froggum]

One of my friends said this when i asked him if he'd read LOTR:"We live in Iowa, we don't read." What a hick.

RAGE, RAGE, RAGE!!!!!!!!!
Stuff like that seriously annoys me. Iowa is ranked second in the nation for education. How educated can you be without reading? I've lived in Iowa all my life, I've worked in a library, and I read constantly. Rest assured, Iowans read.

And, by the way,

On Iowa, Go hawks!!!!!
We're goin' to Pasadena! Woo-hoo!

[Froggum]

No offense intended to the Boise-bound Cyclones. Really.

[Wonko The Sane]

Instead of posting twice you can just edit your last post you know, Froggum....Just a thought.

[Frodorocks]

Elijah Wood was from Iowa.:D Somebody I know said that Frodo was Bilbo's grandson. Second cousin, twice removed on his mother's side people!

[Froggum]

I know, I accidentally hit the wrong button. It won't happen again, I promise. Please don't hurt me.

[EverEve]

I wont hurt you..yet *laughs evilly, and then chokes* Seriously though, this girl in one of my classes was touching my precious (aka: the books), and she turns to me and goes "Is this the real one?" I honestly had no clue what she meant, so I was like "Yah, those are the books..". She looks at me really weird, and says "Those look really boring...theyre long, and have small print..."

I was shocked...

[Goldberry344]

So im talking to this girl.....

Me: I am so excited for TTT
Her: really?
Me: ya
Her: the last one was ok (as i gasp 'only ok?'). It really left you haning, though.
Me: it's supposed to. its a trilogy. the book ends before Boromir dies, though. it leaves you REALLY hangng.
Her: he DIED?

*hits head with palm*

She thought Boromir was Gimly. she didnt get it. *dies* so im giving her LOTR 101...but still, she saw the movie twice! egads.

[Aglarthalion]

Person: "Why didn't they just give the Ring to that Gandalf wizard dude?"
Me: "Because he did not want to be tempted with the power of the One Ring."
Person: "But I bet he could have worked out a way of breaking it!"
Me: "No, Gandalf could never have destroyed the Ring. The only way to destroy it was to cast it back into the Crack of Doom, at Mount Doom in Mordor, where it was forged."
Person: "Isn't that the place where Gandalf got killed by the fire dragon?"
Me: "No, that was Moria. And Gandalf was not killed by the fire dragon, which is actually called a Balrog, if you must know."
Person: "So Gandalf didn't die?'
Me: "Well, technically he did die, but he becomes reincarnated as Gandalf the White."
Person: "Ohhh..." *looks confused then wanders off*

:rolleyes:

Frodorocks -- It's so frustrating sometimes, isn't it? :rolleyes: I can imagine that person saying "What? Why is he called The Heir of Gondor? Who's Gondor?"

[Athelas]

I've had conversations so like that, and the more you try to explain things, the more insane you start to sound to the uninitiated. I sympathize deeply.

[Frodorocks]

The books should be required reading world wide so we wouldn't have these problems.:) :rolleyes:

[Dragon]

It really annoys me that almost all required reading is sucky classics and historical fiction. I think we should have more david eddings and anne mccaffrey.

[Wonko The Sane]

I was sitting at the computers, and this guy from work came up and sat down and was like, "What's that?" and I was like, "It's The Tolkien Forum, it's a Lord of the Rings message board" and he was like, "That's lame."

I don't have much respect for him now. ;) :rolleyes: (Plus I think he was trying to hit on me...so dissing on LOTR is NOT the way to go about it!!)

[EverEve]

I say we start a world-wide petition making LotR required reading!!

Wonko: Aghh! Who could..think..that..the..Forum....is lame? I hate it when people give me **** about our beloved forum!

[Wonko The Sane]

Me too...I hate it a lot.
They think it's lame and dorky.

What I hate even more is when people give me **** about the fact that I met my boyfriend on the forum.

It's bad enough I met him on the internet, but when people here WHERE on the internet I get flamed utterly... :(

[Frodorocks]

I'll sign the petion!

[HobbitGirl]

I don't think that making LotR a required reading book is such a good idea. Even though it is the best book ever written. When you are forced to read a book it takes some of the fun out of it, you know?

Anyway...

I asked someone once if they had read LotR, and they said yes. I asked them what they thought of it. They said, "I didn't get very far. It was really boring. Nothing happened."

<sigh> Some people...

[Dragon]

count me in too!

this forum is the opposite of lame, you can make your own threads about n e thing you want, joke around in other peoples threads, and complain about idiots like that jerk!

[HLGStrider]

If we made all the good books in the world required reading nothing would ever get done... you'd have a bunch of people writing book jacket reviews... Nobody every likes required reading even if they would otherwise like it... I almost didn't like Ivanhoe because my mom was forcing me to read it and answer questions about it for English. (I'm homeschooled so it was my mom).

[EverEve]

Wonk: whose your b/f?

...*sigh* maybe we shouldnt make it required reading...but! we could capture all the brainless idiots who hate lotr, and bribe them into reading it *muahahaa:evil laughter*!!!!!

...Ok Ill calm down.

[Mablung]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm requiered reading would be an excellent thing except that 90% of the people requiered to read it wouldn't because they were too long and they are bums!

[Wonko The Sane]

Originally posted by EverEve
Wonk: whose your b/f?



Snaga! :) *glows with proud delight*

[Shadowfax]

My b/f's on here too...maybe not anymore though, the powers that be might have deleted his account because he never posts anything, but he does come on and read the threads.

[Éomond]

Some one told me today that the movies are better than the books, I hate that kid:mad:

[Shadowfax]

One thing I hate, is when I'm talking about it with people who have enjoyed the movie but not read the books that the books are better, and they say, "Well, you can't compare books and movies"

I just want to yell out that I understand that but inroder to understand the full genius of Tolkiens vision you have to read the books.

Also, On another Forum (not TTF, chat actually) I was having a discussion with some other ringers about Frodo and Sam's 'preferences' *ahem* and a girl came on (I assume) and said "Geez, you guys are sickos!(we were citing instances in the book that could be taken in various ways) Frodo and Sam were sooo not gay! In the first scene Frodo pushes Sam to dance with that girl! That PROVES they are not gay!"

I sooooo wished my modem could deliver a virtual slap to her...

[EverEve]

LMAO!! That's the greatest! We had a thread on that one time here. I think it got deleted. People went a little overboard. It ranged from Sam/Frodo-thing, to Tolkien being...well...*thinks for word* perverted. It was highly amusing, if not entirely acceptable.

IM SO PROUD! People in my school are figuring out that LOTR is THREE books!

Wonk: Snaga's cool. Do you know him off TTF too?....Maybe I could get my b/f to come on teh Forum...well...maybe not. He's not exactly a fan, or a reader...it prob'ly wouldnt work so well....

[Wonko The Sane]

Yay! Yes he IS cool! He's VERY cool! :)

And he and I have been dating a couple months and talk on the phone quite often...ok every day...for hours at a time...and run up ginormous cell phone bills. :)
International calls are NOT cheap!

Here's the thing...we met on the forum and I live in America and he lives in England so we haven't actually met yet.

But all that changes SOON...quite soon. *is giddy*

[Éomond]

*sniff* that's awsome Wonkos! That is soooo cool. My best friend is on the forum, but I gots no g/f, *sigh* the serch goes on....:D

*ahem* back on topic! My school is giving out free LotR: TTT/FotR bookmarks! You're only sopposed to take one but I took all them!
I guess that's not really on topic....

Other people make me mad when they get them but don't know who the heck the characters are, and I have to explain to them, but I guess it's good, spead the (Tolkien) wealth!

[Wonko The Sane]

Thanks Sissy-Mon!!! :) *hugs*

[Shadowfax]

Originally posted by EverEve
LMAO!! That's the greatest! We had a thread on that one time here. I think it got deleted. People went a little overboard. It ranged from Sam/Frodo-thing, to Tolkien being...well...*thinks for word* perverted. It was highly amusing, if not entirely acceptable.



Yeah, we decided to take the high road and explain to her, very slowly, using little words, that that scene was not in the books and that Rosie only appeared in the end. Also that if she wanted to protect her delicate sensibilities, perhaps she should not go into adult slash chat rooms...even if they are about LotR:rolleyes:

her response: Hey, i came in here to talk about LotR, not the books!

grrrrrrrRRRR...

I also agree that discussion about such things should not take place here- this is a forum open for all ages, and the subject matter should reflect that.

[Froggum]

Hey, i came in here to talk about LotR, not the books!
That is so sad.

[HLGStrider]

She's right though.. you are sickos... ;)

[Shadowfax]

Totally, I'm the first to admit it, but to go on a forum where it is clearly stated in all of the pages you have to go through to get to it what *it* is, and then accuse and slander people, well, that's when I have a problem with it. I mean, if there was a chat room ( and there probably is) where all people did was go on and insult women (I am one) I am not going to go *looking* for it, just to tell people that they are sickos, sexists, what ever. If something offends me, I try to avoid it. It's a policy that has worked so far. ;)

[Aglarthalion]

I'll try to get back on topic. ;) I can't believe I forgot this one before, but once when I was coming out of the theatre after one of my viewings of FotR, I overheard a guy saying "It's got a funny ending, doesn't it?"

The way he said it gave me reason to believe that he honestly thought that FotR was a film of the entire trilogy. :p

[Dragon]

yeah, well, idiots are idiots, and that's hard to change..... it's still really annoying though

[QueenSilverleaf]

One of my favorite comments has to be what I heard leaving the movie theater. " Now who were those guys with pointy ears again?"

*bangs head with fist* Oh please! Thats not just LotR, that fantasy/sci fi in general!

[HLGStrider]

I know! It was so obvious that they were Vulcans that anyone should've known it...





















;)

[Eöl]

Yea, in my science class i was trying to explain the movie to this girl cuz she didn't get it at all and i got to the part where they go to the Prancing Pony and my friend interrupted and said "Yeah, that's where they met Slider......" Sheesh, it drives me nuts when people are like who's Aragorn? and all these really dumb questions like that...

[Shadowfax]

While I was waiting in line for TTT today, there was a person dressed up as treebeard walking around in the lobby. A kid asked his dad why the man was dressed up as a tree, and the dad replied: "Gee, I dunno. Must be one of those environmentalist people."

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY THE !@#$%^ SOMEONE WOULD GO TO A PREMIER LIKE LOTR AND BE A 'FANATIC' AND WAIT IN LINE FOR FOUR HOURS IF THEY HADN'T EVEN ***READ*** THE ***BOOKS***???

That means that those poor people liked the movie enough that they have been watching it and waiting for the next part, and wondering what's going to happen for a WHOLE YEAR... I can just see them sitting around with their friends asking eachother what they think will happen...
:rolleyes:

[HLGStrider]

Gosh... Shadowfax lives in my state... Which is why "environmentalist people" wouldn't be that unnatural... and my sister often forgets to eat.. Which is actually not that unusual for a young teen girl... I did it sometimes...

[Shadowfax]

Yup. Someitmes when things are boring on Saturdays my pals and I go downtown and watch the protestors.

Once there was a guy walking around dressed up as a stump...to protest a bank. I never did figure that one out.

This is the reason I am proud to say...that I am NOT a resident. I live outside the city limits, thankyouverymuch! ;)

[HLGStrider]

I live on the other side of the mountains where it is nice and sort of dry and there are more conservatives... He he... beat that!

[Shadowfax]

Well, my family may be moving out to a ranch on the Other Side sometime soon. We've had it with all the wierdness over here! And it's not just Conservatives either. I have a very Liberal friend who moved away because she couldn't take it anymore.

Somewhat on topic: Someone was talking about how Peter Jackson was one of the greatest storytellers of all time, and that he was a genius to come up with the concept. I must admit, it was hard to restrain myself from dumping my soda on their head.

[HLGStrider]

I haven't heard much that was stupid... Except my sister who keeps rolling my eyes at every comment and wouldn't let me use the word Ent in a game of boggle to get a point...

Yes, it is weird here. very weird.

[elvish-queen]

Shadowfax:.... totally off topic, but why do skinny people irritate you?? I don't irritate you, do I? Do I???
Ya, so it got me in a load of trouble... but hey that's another story.

my friend came to watch the movie with me, and i swear i got SO.. DARN.. ANNOYED. she kept asking, "who is that?" "Oh, so that's the guy-who-died-in-the-first-film's brother? OH!" "but then what happens next?" "Who is 'she'?" Man, i went to watch this film and i had to give someone else a running commentary. AND THEN, to top it all, she goes and says a day later :"Oh, the ending of the lord of the rings is so nice!" so i'm like, "Woah, you didn't really read the whole thing?" and she's like :"no, i just read the end"
Sacriledge! How can you do that to the best book in creation??:mad:

[Shadowfax]

Response to OT question: No, you don't irritate me, e-q. It's actually a quote I got off one of those funny emails people keep circulating. It's in response to my own weight woes, no matter how hard I try, I just can't say no to chocolate! But I've been thinking of changing my sig, I found a funnier one!

[elvish-queen]

just joking, sf, don't worry.
but seriously, being skinny is not all it's cracked up to be. i mean, you see all these thin chicks in magazines, but when you lose weight people tell you you look disgusting. i would almost prefer to be chubby. not quite, but almost. normal would be good but we can't be picky, can we?

[Isenho]

well this is stupid and true

not really a non-lotr fan, just a "slow" lotr fan. lol

i was with my dad, we were finished watching TTT,

then i said, "wasn't Aragorn cool"

He said, "who?"

I said, "aragorn! the long brown hair guy!"

he said, "the archer?"

CMon! legolas has blond hair! lol, thats just lame

[HLGStrider]

Aragorn did have a bow too in most of the scenes... but I thought his hair was black... oh well... I'm sleepy again.

[Shadowfax]

It depends on how much grease is present in it at the time...ewwch! Someone really needs to attack him with a bottle of Dawn dish detergent.

[faila]

My history teacher last year said this
"Lord of the rings is demonic evil and violent"
I said:
"It was written by a christian and accurately shows a struggle of good versus evil"
She said
"IT has magic its demonic"

I should probobly explain that I go to a christian school, so she would always tell us how demonic such thing were (she spent a hole period expaining the evils of lotr)

[Húrin Thalion]

And he and I have been dating a couple months and talk on the phone quite often...ok every day...for hours at a time...and run up ginormous cell phone bills.

*Knocks head on desk* Why wonko, why? Isn't it much easier to get a microphone for 5 dollars and then talk over the computer? Just a tip.

And also your history teacher seems a little weird, why hate LOTR because it is demonic? You must have a little tolerance, at least with Lord of the Rings! Welcome to the forum faila, hope you will enjoy it as much as I do.

Húrin Thalion

[Shadowfax]

I went to a Christian school too, and they can be a little wierd that way. I mean, just because someone reads fantasy doesn't mean they are going to go out and commit child sacrifice or whatever. Besides, LotR (compared to most fantasy) has very little magic. It doesn't even have spells or incantations!

[Frodorocks]

I would bite that teachers neck out!;) Someone coming out of TTT called Gandalf the head elf.:rolleyes:

[Isenho]

LOL Frodorocks! head elf :D

[EverEve]

LMAO!! Aight, hea's some from my own MOTHER!

me mom: "yah, the power towers was number one in the box office."...meaning the Two Towers

she cant keep Arwen, Galadriel, and Eowyn staight either. So now, Arwen is the dark haired one, Galadriel's the one in the white dress, and Eowyn is teh light haired one whose in love with the dude with dark hair (aka: Aragorn.). And trying to explain the story line to her was a HORROR.

The Power Towers *ducks head in laughter and shame ;)*

[Isenho]

lol, i know how it is. ;)

[Éomond]

I so sorry Evie;)
But my mom is the only one who listens to me when I talk about LotR. So she know's everything about it without looking at the book!:D Yay for my mom:o

[Rúmil]

My history teacher last year said this
"Lord of the rings is demonic evil and violent"
I said:
"It was written by a christian and accurately shows a struggle of good versus evil"
She said
"IT has magic its demonic" You should then have said: "well have you read it?"
There are two sorts of reply:
Some people say "Hhmmphrwelllll no but it's a well-known fact!"
Teachers just say DETENTION.





There is a website about advertising Lotr as demonic because..... it was written by a Catholic!!!

[HLGStrider]

Scary... ;)

Anyway, demonic normally means Satanic and occultish, normally involving contact with Satan or his minions. Demonic books should be a concern, but I think it is a HUGE stretch to call LotR's that... It all depends on how you take it.

Some people are more sensitive to fantasy...

It's one of those things like alcohal. Some Christians say none, some say just wine, some say just in moderation, some say Party on, and some are alcoholics... I don't believe there is a clear line drawn on it Biblically... so it is up in the air.

[Rúmil]

I think the Bible is very clear about alcohol: bonum vinum laetificat cor hominum ;)

[HLGStrider]

POST IN ENGLISH! You solve one of the things I'd always been undecided on and then you do it in LATIN! Urg!

I know vinum is wine and I think Hominum would be men... OK, R. Translate or I will chase after you with my Fully Updated Strong's Bible Concordance (and that is a big book!)

[Rúmil]

It means: good wine cheers men's hearts. It's from Psalm 103 (or 104, depending of the edition), the exact quote is 'vinum laetificat cor hominis', which means the same. Glad I could help :)

[Shadowfax]

Hey, Jesus himself drank and created wine. Just like everything, it's Ok, as long as it doesn't rule one's life. At least that's my take on it. :)

[HLGStrider]

Ah... yes, I remember that.

However, there are verses in Proverbs that say the opposite... Wine is a mocker and strong drink a brawler (I don't remember the verse number)...

I personally believe as you do, Shadow, but I also know people who have skipped the part in Psalms and are going straight off the proverbs version...

[Shadowfax]

This appeared on fanfiction.net-

a person wrote a fic elaborating on Aragorn's little *beep* dream about Arwen- and in the summary said that he was doing it because description wasn't Tolkien's strong point.

And in a review of the story ( I just had to see what sort of people would review it) someone wrote that they agreed and hoped that by the time they were done reading LotR, Tolkien will have finished his next book, so they don't have to wait.

I stared at the computer screen for a couple minutes, unable to believe my eyes. There are some scary people out there.

[Rangerdave]

My history teacher last year said this
"Lord of the rings is demonic evil and violent"
I said:
"It was written by a Christian and accurately shows a struggle of good versus evil"
She said
"IT has magic its demonic"

First: I would like to make it known that not all History Teachers are not that closed minded. I have suggested to many of my students that they read The Silmarillion: not only for his or her own enjoyment, but so he or she could better understand some of the required texts I assign in the course. Robert de Boron, Chretien de Troys and Sir Thomas Malory can be a real bugger if one is not used to that style of writing.

Second: The real reason I object to your Teacher's flawed analysis is the last sentence. "It has magic, its demonic".
Remind your teacher of the book of Exodus.
The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, "When Pharaoh says to you, 'Perform a wonder,' then you shall say to Aaron, 'Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh, and it will become a snake.' " So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did as the LORD had commanded; Aaron threw down his staff before Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. Then Pharaoh summoned the wise men and the sorcerers; and they also, the magicians of Egypt, did the same by their secret arts. Each one threw down his staff, and they became snakes; but Aaron's staff swallowed up theirs. Still Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he would not listen to them, as the LORD had said.

"The magicians of Egypt, did the same by their secret arts"!

If a book of such obvious virtue as the Bible can show human beings as magicians I fail to see how your Teacher can fault other works for displaying the same. The study of History and the study of literature are much the same. Each gives insight into the mental processes and cultural atmosphere of the era in question.

And if your Teacher gives you anymore guff about Tolkien's work without supporting evidence against it, tell him or her that a University Professor of Medieval History you know said that it isn't so.

RD

[Shadowfax]

GO RD!

What the teacher was probably thinking is that it glorifies magic use, and the Bible does condemn magic practices taht aren't 'of God'. However, the only person who can do magic who is good is Gandalf (and the elves, sorta) and he does it rarely.

[Goldberry1234]

Hi all, new to this site and impressed by the amount of information here.

My contributions:

My mom thought Frodo's name was "frito"...like the chips....

and my brother, upon seeing FotR said "so, tell me what happens, because I'm not going to waste my time reading the books when I can just wait for the next movie..."

Ugh.

[HLGStrider]

Gosh... Another Goldberry... Now what am I going to do... Okay... Goldberry344 is Goldie so you will have to be Berry... Berry Berry Berry.

[faila]

Originally posted by Goldberry1234

My mom thought Frodo's name was "frito"...like the chips....

frito wasnt that the guys name in "bored of the rings?"(its a parody of lord of the rings)

[Frodorocks]

Yeah, and Bilbo was D1ldo.:D :D

[*Lady Arwen*]

Frito? Sorry, but thats funny:D

When I told my mom that I wanted to see TheTwo Towers she asked if it was a documantary about September 11th.:o

[Shadowfax]

Well, that's not so bad, I mean it's understandable, and people who haven't read the books often don't know each of the titles.

[Tar-Minyatur]

(When the Easterling guy was looking for what caused the landslide outside of the Black Gate)

Some really annoying stupid fat kid: "Hey those arent orcs.....their either elves or men.....its an elf!"

I think if I had had a gun I would have shot him right there.

[Precious]

Originally posted by TLOTR

I think if I had had a gun I would have shot him right there. ....And, you didn't go out immediately and buy one!??!! :mad:

[Shadowfax]

That's why you buy popcorn and drinks. So you can 'accidentally' spill it on them.

[Aragorns_girl00]

Originally posted by Elu Thingol
After I watched the first movie I heard somebody say

´And he didn´t even destroy the ring!? This movie was a waste of time!`

Now that was a truly stupid thing to say


lol........ duh! were they blonde??j/k

[Mablung]

My friend in his infinate brilliance finally gave into my pestering and decided to go see TTT. However I was pestering him to see FOTR. He had never seen FOTR nor read the books so when he gets home he calls me on the phone and says "I just got back from seeing TTT and I was wondering if you could tell me whats the One Ring? Who are Sauron and Saruman are they the same person? Why was Gandalf falling? Whats the deal with the cloaked dudes (he meant the Nazgul)? What the hell is Gondor and why is some bum with a dwarf and an elf their king?" He had more but I hung up on him after that last one.

[Tar-Minyatur]

....And, you didn't go out immediately and buy one!??!!
LOL... I think I would've if I wasnt so busy watching the movie:)
Ugh... just thinking about that stupid comment still ****es me off.

[Sarah]

I have two.

One friend of mine saw the scene where Gandalf was trying to figure out the password to Moria and he saw Gandalf's sword. "Oh, there's a mistake" he said "wizards don't need swords."

When my father saw Gandalf hanging from the bridge in khazad-dum before he said "Fly, you fools" my father asks "Gandalf's a wizard, why couldn't he just levitate up?"

[Isenho]

Originally posted by Mablung
What the hell is Gondor and why is some bum with a dwarf and an elf their king?" He had more but I hung up on him after that last one.

lol, yeah i have a friend who too never saw FotR and i'm pushing him to see TTT. he might now for that i gave him free TTT tickets from the DVD EE for his birthday on the 26th of Dec! :D

[Umealona]

I talked to a friend who said that he didn't like the books because they didn't follow the movie very well.

Also, in a book store a friend of mine said he heard some people looking at LOTR stuff say" wow, the're already making books about the movie."

[HLGStrider]

A local paper actually billed it as "The Twin Towers."

WHY DON'T OUR PAPERS GET A PROOFREADER? Our town has to have the publication with the worst spelling in the USA.

[omnipotent_elf]

i went to see the two towers with some friends and they kept leaning over to ask me
"is aragorn dead, hes dead aint he" and then "well he isnt important so they have to get rid of some characters"

then i asked them a simple question "whats the point of having a 'return of the king' without a king"

[Eöl]

My English teacher said she liked the part when Bilbo watched Dumbledore fall down the mountain(meaning Frodo watching Gandalf). I almost shot myself. Some people....

[Enduriel]

I asked my mum if she wanted to see The Two Towers with me, she said "What's The Two Towers?" :rolleyes:

[Isenho]

dudes who confuse Gondor with Gandalf. my friends basically cuz i prounounce Gandalf "GOndalf" (thats how it's suppose to be!) so, yeah

[ssgrif]

Really Isenho? Where does it state that?

Gondalf?

I'm sure its promnounced ...Ga'ndalf...

[Shadowfax]

In the pronunciation appendices. (Which I havn't the patience to read, so I rely on other Tolkienites to correct me. I think I've cured myself of saying "Sell-a-born" instead of "Kell-eh-born".

[Isenho]

no no wait! lol, the proper and right way is "Kell-eh-born" not "Sell-a-born" It's in the Sil i reckon!

and i know that it's gOndalf because in the DVD (first one, not EE) chistoper lee said so! it's somewhere in the special features section. Yeah!

[Shadowfax]

NO, No, that's what I meant, I say Keleborn now. I typed the last message at about ...well I don't remember but it was REALLY late after cramming for a Calculus test.

What I can't get over is that Bakshi pronounced it "Sell-a-born" drives me insane!

[omnipotent_elf]

well why were on that topic
i thought it was morIa,
not moria

[ssgrif]

Hang on, slow down, does anyone know where in tolkiens writings it states that Gandalf is realy GOndalf?

Ok, I appreciate it that Christopher Lee may have stated this in the EE of the DVD, but I'd like to hear it from JRRT himself. (From a book, not beyond the grave!)

lol

[Heathertoes]

I have heard the man himself and CT say 'GANdalf'. It's on a video I've got. On the subject of Bakshi, why do they say Aruman instead of Saruman in his film? Is it just madness?

[Heathertoes]

Actually, thinking about it, the stupidest thing I've heard anyone say about TLOTR was when I said, "I think I'll go and see The Two Towers. I expect it's really good."

[Shadowfax]

Actually, they called Saruman "Aruman" half the time, and "Saruman" the rest of the time. I think it was so people wouldn't confuse him with Sauron.

[Wonko The Sane]

My friend John said:

"I hate Lord of the Rings, I don't see why everyone else can't hate it too."

[Ol'gaffer]

there was an article in a newspaper here in finland like this a while back:

"Last year I went to see LOTR, it had little guys running in the woods, it also had big guys running in the woods, this year I went to see TT it had more bug guys running in the woods. And I ask, what's wrong with the kids these days when they go to see 3 hour movies of nothing else except guys running in the woods?"

Also one of my friends once said: "I just don't understand people who would actually want to see **** like this! It's so unreallistic!!"

[Frodorocks]

" Lord of the Rings is so stupid!"

[Wonko The Sane]

The running in the woods thing that Ol'Gaffer posted is funny.

I also heard from my pseudo-brother's friend: "You guys are going to see that AGAIN?! God, it sucked the first time it's not going to magically get better if you go and see it more!"

[ssgrif]

What my mate said after watching the FOTR:

Him: "Is that it? That ending makes no sense!"

Me: "Thats only the first one, there's another two to come"

Him: "oh..."

[klugiglugus]

Those poor migets! I bet they enslaved children like on the Star wars films! and those Orks and goblins looked like russian Amish tea drinkers! That film is racist!!! I hope Peter Jackson is beaten to death by the tooth fairy!

[Ol'gaffer]

Originally posted by klugiglugus
Those poor migets! I bet they enslaved children like on the Star wars films! and those Orks and goblins looked like russian Amish tea drinkers! That film is racist!!! I hope Peter Jackson is beaten to death by the tooth fairy!

Who said THAT?

[dark powers]

Recently I had a conversation with somebody who said "Lord of The Rings is for sad people with no lives." This person, who shall remain nameless here, watches every Eastenders, Corronation Street, Emerdale, Brookside, Neighbours, etc.....

A well known expression about pots and kettles sprang to mind....

[Isenho]

someone who will remain nameless thought the third movie was called "The Battle for Middle Earth"

sad

[moon cloud]

Originally posted by dark powers
Recently I had a conversation with somebody who said "Lord of The Rings is for sad people with no lives." This person, who shall remain nameless here, watches every Eastenders, Corronation Street, Emerdale, Brookside, Neighbours, etc.....

A well known expression about pots and kettles sprang to mind....

I love eastenders...but people who watch every single soap are pretty sad, I agree. At least we know its not real. People who watch too many soaps tend to believe in it all.

Anyway, the worst thing I heard was "It was sh*t" about the first film. Luckily, I dragged her to the second and she liked it! Go me.

[smeagol444]

LOL
well the most mindless and robotic remark that my friends constantly throw at me is:

it's borr-ingg , bler

what ever happened to imagination? maybe they're to caught up in the latest barbie commercial.

[33Peregrin]

My friend and I were IM ing her cousin. We told him to go to www.lordoftherings.net and tell us who said hi. (When you go there, someone from the cast says hi, but you probably all know that...) He said Ian Holm. We told him it was Bilbo. He asked what a Bilbo was. We told him it was a hobbit. He asked us how could it be a Bilbo and a Hobbit. We were laughing so hard.
Then we told him we would see the 2 Towers the next day. He said "You know they don't exist, right?"

Everyone, save one or two people, I know hates how obsessed I am. I could go on for days about what they all say. No one I know has read the book, save one, and i don't talk to him that much. I need some hints on how to convince people to read it.
I hate when people say it is stupid.
I hate it when people say "Lord of the Rings 2"
The sequel to LOTR
Are Gollum and Dobby brothers?

My friend and I were watching TTT. We were at the Entmoot. She asked if they were doing Yoga.
When A Rohan village was getting destroyed, she asked if it was the Shire.
Obviously, I haven't taught her very well.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Oh, yeah, and I constantly hear people say that they fell asleep during it.

I hate it when people I strongly dislike say that the movie was "Tight"

Someone asked me if the movie or the book was better. I said the book. She said it wasn't, I asked her how she knew. She said she never read it, but it was too long to be interesting. I got pretty mad at her....


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[HLGStrider]

You know, if you think of something else to say after you are done posting, you can push "edit post" and type it in... I'm just saying this because you've posted two relatively short posts in a row with no one posting in between... you could probably have used edit.
But it's not a big deal.

[kohaku]

Last time I saw TTT these people next to me wondered if they were really speaking another language and said things like "what's the point of speaking a different language?" and "pick a language and stick with it!" whenever someone spoke elvish. It got really annoying.

[BlackCaptain]

"LOTR is so stupid! The movie sucked!"

that annoys me so much

"What's the point?! Its a freaking Ring. How can people get so bent out of shape over a stupid Ring?"

[kohaku]

"What's the point?! Its a freaking Ring. How can people get so bent out of shape over a stupid Ring?"

yikes, the movies by themselves ought to tell them that!!

[Nefmariel]

Me "I'm going to see TTT again"

Friend "Again! Sheesh whats so great about it I didn't even see the first one!"

Me "What! *gasp*"


in another situation I heard someone say which made me want to punch them "Legolas is ugly though" YARG!

[Bombadillo]

i overheard a conversation... two guys were betting on who would get aragorn.. eowyn or arwen...

[legolas84]

this is more silly and cute than stupid, but amusing nonetheless.

the christmas cake my grandmother had ordered had split into three different sections leaving large, canyon-like crevaces down the cake. my grandma who had just finished attempting to read fotr looked at it and said "you know, if this was the lord of the rings, they wouldn't just eat the cake, they'd have to climb up the side of it, then walk across the perlious icing and then somehow scale down the side of the canyon and then back up again...they're always going somewhere! where are they going?!"

[aDaHe]

Originally posted by 33Peregrin
Everyone, save one or two people, I know hates how obsessed I am. I could go on for days about what they all say. No one I know has read the book, save one, and i don't talk to him that much. I need some hints on how to convince people to read it.
I hate when people say it is stupid.
I hate it when people say "Lord of the Rings 2"
The sequel to LOTR
Are Gollum and Dobby brothers?



i sooooooo know where you are commming from!!!!!
when i read the sil, a person would come up and say
them"what are you reading?"
me"the Silmarllion."
them" is that like the sequel to the lord of the rings?"
me " no its about 5 thousand years before it chronologically(sp?)"
them " oh..."
me " its about the elves and their battle against the first dark lord."
them " is aragorn in that book?"


like i said before in this thread..."we can only pitty their ignorance, and the fact that they are not enlightened as we of the tolkien fans are..."

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[HobbitGirl]

I was talking to the girl who sits in front of me in Math class today, and I was complaining about how Hollywood is running out of ideas for movies and is making sequels to everything to make a buck. She said sequels weren't that bad. I told her how suspicious I am of all sequels, to which she replied, "Well you liked The Two Towers didn't you?" I tried to explain to her how LOTR is a trilogy and therefore TTT and ROTK don't count as sequels, but noooo...

[BlackCaptain]

We just had a nice family lunch... Turkey subs, macaroni, coke, chips, dill pickles, the whole kitten kabudal. My dad, being in his midlife crisis, always yearning to be the coolest person in the world, asked me something and started a conversation that i regret i ever helped start:

Dad-Hey Nick, you gotta teach me one of those halfling drinking songs so i can sing them when i go out for a beer, ya know... and imean a cool one.
Me - Umm... how about no?
Dad - O'cmon! It'l be fun! C'mon, teach me that one where at the end he goes "All the tooks!"
*The one that realy says Is a mug of beer inside this took. We just watched the EE the day before, and my dad liked the scene at the Gold Dragon inn*
Brother - Hey Nick, what is a Took anyway? *trying to stump me*
Me - *gave about a 10 page report on what a Took is*
Brother - Whatever
Dad - Fine, if you won't tell me, then i'll just make up a song.... umm.... i know!

I did it all for the Tookie! Cmon, the Tookie! Cmon, the Tookie! So you can take that Baggins, and send him on a QUEST!

Me - No you di-int!


*then i stormed out of the kitchen and came up here for some intervention*


That had to be one of the funiest things thats ever hapened to me! Does anyone have any funy stories of when they're family tries to be Lord of the Ringish?

[e.Blackstar]

My Dad always asks the stupidest ?s

[The_Swordmaster]

My dad saw TTT and TFOTR a couple of times with out reading the book. Now he acts like a genius about LOTR. It's really stupid what some of the things he says when trying to act smart.

[Turin]

My dads seen FoTR EE a couple times and TTT once and he still can't understand it or keep from cutting it down.

[33Peregrin]

My mom says some of the stupidest things...... but here is something that happened today.
My ring on the silver chain went through the washing machine. I've been looking for it for a few days. Today I saw my dad wairing it. I asked him how he got it and he said he found it. I was like "Where? In Gollum's Cave?" He started to try and act like Gollum.
We ate potatoes for dinner today. My dad told my mom that they were "Good taters". I said "What's taters, prrrrrecioussssss?" My brother went "PO- Ta- Toes". It was funny. Stuff like this happens everyday.

[BranMuffin]

My Dad recently shaved his head *mid-life crisis* for bike week in Daytona. He has a really bumpy head so he sorta looks like gollum either him or a deformed klingon. Though he hasn't started crawling on all fours and eating fish raw.

[reem]

well, the only comment my mom made about LOTR when we first watched it at the movies was "very impressive camera work, and good special effects."...but that was about it.
my dad gives me a forbearing look whenever i mention LOTR and starts his lecture about how i should be reading more educational books instead of waisting my time....so atleast your parents 'try'!! better that nothing if you ask me!
reem

[Feanorian]

Well my brother started me on LOTR but never really understood the Silmarillion so he stopped reading it, now whenever I talk about it my family is like What? whose Eru? Whats a Valar? Elves....arent they kinda short? I usually just stop and run away.

[reem]

hehehe! i know how that feels! my friends give me a "she's gone coocoo" look everytime i talk about the Sill...which, i ust admit, i don't really get myslef! it's too full!! i've got little sticky notes all over it which points like 'eru (aka illuvatar) made Ea fromthe flame imperishable...blahblahbla' and stupid summeries like that jsut to try and keep up with it!...not that i succeeded or anything! i reread each few pages four times or more just to keep everything in, and i still can't keep up!! it's hopeless!!:confused:
:p
reem

[CelebrianTiwele]

Yes the sil is hard to read. it is my bible tho. hehe. but me and my bro do all the gollum scenes together. lol "Wuts taters precious?" hehe that has got to be the best part of the movie. and I write "My preccccccccciiiiiiooooooooussssssssssss!!!!" on all my papers. and elvish. all my teachers are like wut? but i hate it when ppl who have no clue wut they're talking about say stuff about LOTR. i'm like oh shutup.

[reem]

nay nay, my good friends! we must--as much as it may grate upon our nerves--be overbearing and correct the poor misguided souls! we, as members of the elite tolkien fan club, should eradicate this ignorence of the non-tolkieners, and show then light! we must show them the path to true tolkieny bliss!!
;):p
reem

[e.Blackstar]

Originally posted by reem
hehehe! i know how that feels! my friends give me a "she's gone coocoo" look everytime i talk about the Sill

Oh yeah. my friend does that all the time. You know, that look that says, "Get a life" "Shut up" and, "Here we go again"

My dad always trys to quote, but he always screws up. he also get saruman and Sauron confused, as well as Eomer and Eowyn, Gollum and Smeagol, etc. He's read the book (my mom read it to the whole family about two years ago :p ) but he cant remember half of it. :rolleyes:

[Annushka]

Originally posted by Celebrian Tiwele
/but i hate it when ppl who have no clue wut they're talking about say stuff about LOTR. i'm like oh shutup. /

Yeah, it is really irritating. They don`t understand a thing and think that there is actually nothing to understand. But the worst is, when they call LOTR a fairy-tale. That drives me crazy. :mad: :mad:

Originally posted by reem
/nay nay, my good friends! we must--as much as it may grate upon our nerves--be overbearing and correct the poor misguided souls! we, as members of the elite tolkien fan club, should eradicate this ignorence of the non-tolkieners, and show then light! we must show them the path to true tolkieny bliss!!/

You really think we should waste time and energy and nerves to explain the beauty of this world to the stupid people around?:eek: :confused:That`ll be just pointless, I think. For example, I went to see TTT`s with my friends who hadn`t read the books and, even worse, didn`t see the first movie. All I can say is that the day was ruined. I was trying really hard to explain what was going on and was feeling so stupid, cause they saw nothing special in it. And couldn`t understand why was I so excited. Anyway, a few days later I went alone.

[Turin]

Hey Annushka I'll give you a tip, if you want to quote someone just go to that post and click quote on the bottom right corner of that post. Oh and you can edit your posts to its right by the quote button.

[reem]

well i think we SHOULD explain it to those who have a chance of comprehending as well as apreciating it, that much you must agree with me on. but i know what you mean by 'hopeless'. a group of my frinds went and made the mistake of watching TTT withut me and the next day at school they were debating whether smeagol's name was 'smeygol' or smowgil'!!! i mean...that the hell it THAT?!!
but i still took the time to correct this...this...well....let me not go on.
reem

[Annushka]

Originally posted by turin56
Hey Annushka I'll give you a tip, if you want to quote someone just go to that post and click quote on the bottom right corner of that post. Oh and you can edit your posts to its right by the quote button.

Thanks, that was really helpful.:)

Unfortunately I can`t find anyone who could appreciate LOTR. Before getting here I had no one to talk to about it. I felt quite isolated.:( But now, to my happiness, that problem is solved.:) :)

[reem]

:) i know what you mean Annushka. it was pretty much the same with me. it's really difficult to find people as inot tolkien as we are...which is a bit difficult to understand, once they read it.
i wonder why some people like it and others not so much. i mean, i don't think it has much to do with wether you like fantasy or not, because i personally wasn't really into fantasy and only read LOTR because my brother inlaw heartilly recomended it. and even then i was very sceptical about it. but once i got started i couldn't put the books down! and the movie should be just as good. so what's wrong with people??:confused:
reem

[33Peregrin]

I don't know anyone who is into LOTR, except for one of my younger friends who only likes it because I do. She hasn't read the books or anything. It's all right. Besides her, none of my other friends like it at all. Whenever I mention it, the best thing they'll say is "Yeah, it's a good movie." My best frined hates LOTR, and gets mad at me when ever I say something even slightly having to do with it. When she is in my room, she goes through all of my LOTR stuff and ruins a lot of it. I don't really invite her to my house that often anymore. It makes me mad........ she makes me feel like I'm choosing LOTR over her, but I think she should respect my interests. I wish there was someone I could discuss LOTR with. The deepest discussion I've ever got in was with someone in my Study Hall about wether or not Hobbit Feet where cool or not.
Whenever I watch the movie with people, I feel like I have to explain every little thing to them, so it bothers me really bad. I usually watch it alone in the middle of the night, every once in a while. That is realy fun.

[Anárion]

I think its hilarious when my dad trys to do something related to LOTR.
One time, he was looking for pictures of Minas Tirith.
So he went to google.com and typed in: Mineous Terearth.

LOL it was sooo funny.
My dad trys to keep up with it and all, but hes not to bright.
One time he asked me who would win in a battle between Gandalf and Merlin.
Hmmmmm.....a super human almost god/valar dude...or....a wizard....
Its funny how he pronouces stuff too
like, gadryeel and laren and mora
I guess you have to be there to experiance the full funnyness of it...

[reem]

well 33peregrin:) you are on a website teeming with tokien nuts:) so i think at least some of your wishes are achieved:p
but i really think that it's a cryin' shame that not more people are into tolkien. his work has been around for a pretty long time...longer than i've been alive, infact!! so it's really surprising that people don[t give him more atention.
reem

[CelebrianTiwele]

CALIME IS MOVING!!! wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i won't have anyone obsessed w/ LOTR to talk to at school!!!!!!! ::sigh:: we have the best time. we rite notes in elvish and have promised to go see ROTK dressed up as elves!!!! wut will i do w/o her!!!! ::sobs::

[reem]

wow! notes in elvish, eh? :p you really are a fanatic!! hehe!
well if it's any comfort even i don't have anyone at school to share 'tolkiny bliss' with:( but i manage anyway...though i'm not so into tolkien that i'd learn how to write elvish!! but still, to each his own, right:p
reem

[CelebrianTiwele]

I am at the top of the fanatics. I learned BOTH forms of elvish. the kind enscribed on the ring and the tengwar. she doesn't know tengwar tho. I CAN'T UPLOAD THIS IMAGE!!!! can sumbody help me?

[Saucy]

the other day i was talking to someone and i was like "the lord of the rings is the best movie" and they were like "i found it scary" and i was "what???" and they were "yeah whe the girl came out of the tv and killed that guy"

now that person is clearly VERY stupid!! Lord of the rings and The ring are two totally different movies! the ring was scary but how u can mistake it for lotr's beats me?

anyways to the point some people are smart otheres are slightly confused and otheres are just plain stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[CelebrianTiwele]

hehe. the worst is when ppl are like, u mean they made a book out of the movie? :rolleyes: oh dear.

[HobbitFeet]

Well, yesterday my brother and I went to see TTT again (8th time for me, but he's only seen it twice). We were imitating the whole movie for fun, because there were only a few other people in the theater. I think the funniest part was when Legolas was yelling at Aragorn in elvish, my brother decided to yell the elvish in a Japenese accent, really fast and high pitched. He kept on doing it till I stuffed popcorn down his shirt.:D
None of my family is really into LoTR, and I'm the most obsessed out of my friends.
This one time, my almost-as-obsessed-with-LoTR-as-me friend and I were eating lunch (french fries and diet coke), and I named this really pretty fry Legolas. I mean, it was all golden and tall...Anyway, we would walk up to people at our table and say "Hey, look at this trick we taught Legolas!", and then we'd stare at the french fry sitting in my hands and say "sit, Legolas, sit!", then wait a few seconds, and then cheer! It was funny as hell. I eventually ate Legolas, as it was lunch time and I was still hungry.

[CelebrianTiwele]

I named this really pretty fry Legolas. thats kinda odd...;)

[HobbitFeet]

What's odd is that now I'm really in the mood for french fries.:eek:

[Saucy]

my point excactly....or the ever famous,"what an intresting movie who came up with that storyline?"

[BlackCaptain]

O jeez thats funny

Cuz she was talking about THE RING!
haha

[MrsElijahWood]

OMG there was this girl, i wont use names *ehem Alli* and she is a FANATIC of Harry Potter. I was trying to convince her why lord of the rings was better, i had just gotten to explaining about leves when she started holding out her ears saying "huh look at me im an elf, im 2 feet tall with pointy ears, im ***** very *****!" and making fun of all the elves and hobbits. First of all elves are TALL!! secondly she is retarded! I feel proud i punched her in the face two weeks later, because of something off this topic. (her nose bled and everything it was kool!):D

[Saucy]

See, my point exactly...if ya don't know what ur talking about then don't say nuthing:rolleyes: otherwise u sound like an idiot!!!!

[Inderjit S]

secondly she is retarded!

I feel proud i punched her in the face two weeks later,

I don't understand..WHY are you harrasing disabled people? :p

[Saucy]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
unnescary acts of violence always funni tee-hee

[Turin]

Hahaha that was great!

[Legolas3363]

Today at school i had to give a report about the creatures in our fav book. i naturally picked LOTR, so today when i was giving my report, i was just mentioning the word"elves" and a girl raised her hand and asked" Are there any UNICORNS in this book?"
WHAT!!!!!?????
I totally flew off the handle on hear" WHAT? This isnt a kids book you know....."
Im not sure why but at the moment this really made me mad..
and for these actions i was sentenced to lunch detention for a week...
Has anything like this every happened to anyone else? I would like to hear some of your stories.

[Rangerdave]

For shame.

It was a perfectly legimate question. Not everyone has read the books.

RD

[Child of Arwen]

I agree with RangerDave. LOTR isn't to everyone's taste. And it is a fantasy and a typical fantasy creature is a unicorn.

[Saucy]

best funnie's

[FoolOfATook]

Wait, I thought that Sauron drank unicorn's blood to continue to survive, after he failed to kill young Frodo Potter.... ;)

(Runs and hides ) :D ;)

[Saucy]

unicorns are annoying though....

[Aulë]

I thought that Homer Simpson killed them all off in the Garden of Eden...:p

[Eriol]

I think this thread will draw anger from some quarters...

But I am a terrible prophet anyway

[Sarah]

I love unicorns. There should be Unicorns. In fact the only things that I think Tolkien doesn't cover are Unicorns and Gargoyles.

[Lúthien Séregon]

and the pheonix...and the griffins...:rolleyes:

[FoolOfATook]

Zombies (proper zombies- not the kind that Aragorn raised, those were mere ghosts) were also ignored...

[Larien]

This book needs a Unicorn. And a pheonix. I doesn't need anything more there. Unicorn would have made it perfection.

[Lúthien Séregon]

I think with the addition of a unicorn it would have become perhaps a bit too much fantasy...I'm not sure, but it would just lose a bit of its appeal to me.:(

[Larien]

Speaking of people who don't know what they talking about . There is this guy who made this web page called 50 reasons why LOTR sux. None of the Reasons Even make sense. http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/film/50reasons.html

[Aragorn21]

I think with the addition of a unicorn it would have become perhaps a bit too much fantasy...I'm not sure, but it would just lose a bit of its appeal to me. Yeah I agree, for some reason unicorns and the rest of the LOTR characters don't seem to go. I don't know why, but I never really like unicorns anyway.

[FoolOfATook]

It's worth noting that unicorns aren't from any of the mythologies that Tolkien really drew inspiration from, as well as the fact that there really aren't that many enchanted beasts in his works- there are no Rocs, no Aslan-like Lions, no Satyrs or Fauns, no Krakens, no Sphinxes, and so forth. [/Serious]

[Larien]

True i guess thats right. It would have been just weird. Leave to harry potter.

[Talierin]

That website is a joke... he's being stupid on purpose

[Eriol]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook
It's worth noting that unicorns aren't from any of the mythologies that Tolkien really drew inspiration from, as well as the fact that there really aren't that many enchanted beasts in his works- there are no Rocs, no Aslan-like Lions, no Satyrs or Fauns, no Krakens, no Sphinxes, and so forth. [/Serious]

This is not in disagreement with yout point, but I always thought the Watcher in the Water was a Kraken-like beast... though I have seen several "versions" of the Kraken myths.

[Eledhwen]

Originally posted by FoolOfATook
It's worth noting that unicorns aren't from any of the mythologies that Tolkien really drew inspiration from, as well as the fact that there really aren't that many enchanted beasts in his works- there are no Rocs, no Aslan-like Lions, no Satyrs or Fauns, no Krakens, no Sphinxes, and so forth. [/Serious] Roverandom has some strange creatures, and talking cats and dogs featured a lot more heavily in the earlier Sil drafts.

Originally posted by Eriol
I always thought the Watcher in the Water was a Kraken-like beast... Peter Jackson gives us more 'information' about the Watcher in the Water than Tolkien did - T. left us wondering whether it was one beast or many. I don't think it was a unicorn, though.:D

[Eriol]

Originally posted by Eledhwen
Peter Jackson gives us more 'information' about the Watcher in the Water than Tolkien did - T. left us wondering whether it was one beast or many. I don't think it was a unicorn, though.:D

Sure, the guy can't be wrong all the time ;). But I think he did a good job with the conception of the beast (if not with the scene itself), for it pretty much matched my own imagination of it. Now if only he had followed the scene as it was in the book...

[Saucy]

hahahahaha! everytime i see that i laugh!!!!!!!

[Beleg]

I still don't know a real-life friend who has read LOTR.

[Vixen Evenstar]

Maybe you have anger problems...

*backs away slowly*

[Aragorn21]

I don't laugh at all, I just role my eyes (:rolleyes: ), it's plain dumb.

But what if he wasn't being stupid on purpose :eek: (scary)!

[Gandalf_White]

this is what one of my friends said: (stupid)
"Lord of the Rings? Doesn't that have something to do with Star Wars?"

[Wonko The Sane]

This is what my friend John said when we were looking at T-shirts:

Me: "Ooh! Look an orc T-shirt!!! I have to get that for Snaga!!!

John: "That's not a LotR orc, that's a really f****d up looking troll or something."

Me, holding up the LotR tag: "Yes. It IS an orc. It's Lord of the Rings."

John: Lord of the Rings? That stuff's pretty gay don't you think?


Sometimes I hate that kid.

[Saucy]

is it possible for someone to be that dumb on accident?:confused:

[Turin]

I think it is, not mentioning any names (my brother).

[Saucy]

*ponders* perhaps
but i know people who act stupid on purpose to gain attention...those people need help!

[33Peregrin]

The last time I saw TTT, there were some really annoying people right behind me. When Shadowfax came to Gandalf's whistle, and Legolas said "That is one of the Maeres, unless my eyes decieve me." This lady behind me went "So what if it is a girl horse.". Grrrrrrrr...... I wanted to jump up and start explaining everything to her.

[Turin]

Well my brother is one that needs help.

[Wonko The Sane]

People shouldn't talk during movies...

It makes me want to kill them.

;)
When I first saw TTT with Snaga someone behind us made talking sounds and we had to kill them with Snaga's scimitar.

They were making stupid comments about everything.

The second time we saw it WE were making stupid comments about how much Frodo and Sam should kiss.

And how much the wargs WEREN'T wargs and Faramir WASN'T Faramir.

And how much Sam's accent reverted back to American.

[Saucy]

dont even start with me about stupid siblings!

[Turin]

Well thankfully I only have I stupid sibling :D.

[Aragorn21]

is it possible for someone to be that dumb on accident? No, I mean what if he really believes what he says.