View Full Version : Which is the best: The Lord of the Rings or the Wheel of Time??
Phenix
08-05-2002, 09:41 PM
hey I was just wondering wich one of these two series you think is the best.
Mormegil
08-06-2002, 02:06 AM
Since you chose to ask this question on a Tolkien forum, then I'm willing to bet that LOTR comes out on top. It's not really a fair question is it?
So, my vote is for LOTR. I only read about 1/2 of the first Wheel of Time book before I gave up on it, I much prefer Tolkien's writings.
Ancalagon
08-06-2002, 02:11 AM
Hmmmmm, I can't really answer as I have yet to read 'the Wheel of Time' series. Though I would hazzard a guess at probably preferring Tolkien, since he is the creator of a genre and generally unmatched by any in his wake.
Phenix
08-06-2002, 06:48 PM
you are probobly right Mormegil... I just thought it would be fun to see if any one besides me likes wot more than lotr (but just a little bit more)
Grond
08-09-2002, 02:42 AM
The Wheel of Time is but a pale copy of the greatest of all fantasy literature, The Lord of the Rings. :)
Darth Saruman
08-09-2002, 03:42 AM
If Robert Jordan had been able to maintain the epic momentum encompassing the first 6 books in the series, I might have given this thread's question some serious thought. However, books 7 and 8 were just brutal, compared to the previous novels. It feels now that Jordan is just keeping the series going in order to make some money. Now book 9 has been sitting on my bookshelf for a year, waiting to be read.
Legolam
08-23-2002, 04:44 PM
Ditto to Darth's comments. RJ's series had the potential to be one of the greatest, if only he'd wrapped it up two or three books ago. Now it's just lots of people wandering around chasing other people for several thousand pages ;) I vote for JRRT, but not by much.
PS book 9 is a little better if you want to get it off your shelf and read it!
Éomond
08-28-2002, 01:38 AM
LotR forever!!!
Nenya Evenstar
08-28-2002, 09:23 PM
Lord of the Rings by a long shot! I actually think Robert Jordan is a great writer and I did enjoy his books; however, I would rather read a fantasie series that does not have all the perverted stuff in it. LotR is completely clean WOT is not. Therefore, in my book LotR is by far the best!
Moriquende
08-30-2002, 07:44 AM
I've only read the first book of the Wheel Of Time I can't say that I didn't like it, though I didn't like the quote on the cover "Robert Jordan has come to dominate the world that Tolkien began to reveal":mad: .All in all I guess it was a good book,I read in one month,and I want to read all the series,but Tolkien IS the greatest no doubt for that!!!(LotR For ever!!)
:D :D
Diamond Took
09-07-2002, 09:23 AM
Hmmm, now if you asked this question in a wheel of time forum, The result might be quite different.:)
HLGStrider
09-07-2002, 10:33 PM
I stopped reading Jordan because it was getting ridiculous how many girls all the guys had... etc...
Plus it did go on forever.
Plus they kept on killing people who would then come back in the next book. Come on... kill the bad guys or don't kill the bad guys... make up your mind.
Nenya Evenstar
09-08-2002, 03:32 AM
Ahh... but the Forsaken can't be killed that easily. They will always come back unless you use Balefire on them. I think that they are some of the best books ever written, and I never got bored with them. But, I agree with Elgee - I stopped reading them for the same reason. Too bad RJ couldn't have made the books a little bit cleaner.
In Flames
09-09-2002, 10:21 AM
I have only read the first two books, and it was alright.
Beside Tolkien i prefer the Forgotten Realms stuff.:)
Galdor
09-12-2002, 04:23 AM
The Wheel of Time series is pretty good, but nothing beats LOTR!!!
Elwing
09-14-2002, 08:24 PM
LOTR does beat WOT but not by too much, I have to agree on the length, by shortening it it would be better. I will stil be waiting for number ten in November though as I like RJ style of writing (what it is I don't know, but I like it.)
HLGStrider
09-16-2002, 01:27 AM
I didn't really like the writing style that much... It was better than Harry Potter for sure. He seemed to have a lot of exclamatory sentences. All chapters seemed to be someone's thought process... a characters. I do that myself, but not so often, and it kind of felt odd.
Nenya Evenstar
09-16-2002, 06:22 AM
See, that is what I loved about his writing style - seeing each scene from different people's points of view. I felt like I got to know the characters on a more personal basis.
Wolfshead
09-28-2002, 12:40 AM
So far I've only read the first 4 in the WOT, I've been waiting for ages for the library to get part 5 in. I think they're very good but probably not as good as LOTR. WOT is very complex, which I suppose is one of the reasons I like it so much, but Nyanavae and Elayne trouncing round looking for Black Ajah is starting to annoy me! But I read on Amazon that Perrin, Faile and Loial don't feature at all in part 5. They're the best thread in the story! Much better than the other characters.
As for the nature of some of the relationships, to put it politely, that some people complained of, I guess you just like it or you don't and will have to put up with it if you read it. Personally, I ain't complaining ;)
LOTR came first, Tolkien made the genre. Jordan is one of any number of followers there, but one of the better ones. I'd also recommend David Gemmel, very good author of heroic fantasy.
Wolfshead
02-23-2003, 04:37 PM
*Decides to ressurect 4 month old thread*
Thought I'd share a quick rant, and let newer WoT members notice this thread :)
I got part 5 from the library in October after having waited since July for it. As expected, it was very good. I have now been waiting since October for part 6 to come in. It is now February. Annoying or what?
Anyway, yeah, that's it. New members, post about WoT! :D
j0n4th4n
02-25-2003, 08:12 PM
what do you mean about the books being 'perverted'? ive read books 1 and 8 and haven't found anything really like that
HLGStrider
02-25-2003, 08:17 PM
Were you addressing Nenya or me? (it's normally a good idea to specify).
What I meant by perverted (I can't remember if I used that term. I think I may have just mentioned a high sex content) is the use of casual sex to an extreme, people with multiple partners, Elayne getting pregnant out of wedlock incredibly willingly and again casually, Rand and his three some, the situatin between Mat and the queen, whatever her name was. . . etc.
ms Greenleaf
02-25-2003, 08:20 PM
okay i love the WOT but there is a great even a classic book like WOT
and then you go a step higher and you see Tolkeins works JMO
*Lady Arwen*
02-25-2003, 10:46 PM
LOTR! Then again I haven't read Wheel of time... Still I think that LORT is the best book ever!
annalovesviggo
02-27-2003, 10:33 PM
What idiots didn't say LOTR on that poll! I was suprised to see that on a Tolkien Forum it wasn't 100% Lord of the Rings - for shame on you!
Wolfshead
03-01-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by HLGStrider
I think I may have just mentioned a high sex content) is the use of casual sex to an extreme, people with multiple partners, Elayne getting pregnant out of wedlock incredibly willingly and again casually, Rand and his three some, the situatin between Mat and the queen, whatever her name was. . . etc. You've gone and spoiled the story! Only kidding, but I haven't got to those stages yet. Casual sex, I can probably just about manage to bear reading about that :rolleyes:
I think I need to get the rest of the books ASAP...
Originally posted by annalovesviggo
What idiots didn't say LOTR on that poll! I was suprised to see that on a Tolkien Forum it wasn't 100% Lord of the Rings - for shame on you! You know, there is infact more to life than LOTR. I haven't read any Tolkien-related stuff for ages, but I still come here, it is a very good forum, better than most others on the net, in my opinion.
HLGStrider
03-01-2003, 01:17 AM
I think she was joking, CS.
Joke? Ever heard of one? Not taking things seriously? Trying de-cafinated coffe?
Gosh you are hyper.
Wolfshead
03-01-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by HLGStrider
I think she was joking, CS.
Joke? Ever heard of one? Not taking things seriously? Trying de-cafinated coffe?
Gosh you are hyper. Hyper? Me? No, I'm tired and depressed right now. And it's usually me that has to point out things are jokes to people because they go right over their heads.
Anyway, I was aware it may not have been entirely genuine, but the opening seemed quite harsh, "What idiots didn't say LOTR on that poll!". I wouldn't like being called an idiot if I had voted for WoT, would you?
Nenya Evenstar
03-01-2003, 09:04 AM
I wouldn't like being called an idiot if I had voted for WoT, would you? Not at all! Good call, IMO. :D
I'm finishing up book 9 of WoT at the moment...one thing I will say (regardless of the less-tasteful things) that Robert Jordan is a phenomenal writer with a very unique style. I find my own writing influenced by his immensly in the way he so vividly portrays each character's thoughts and points of view.
HLGStrider
03-02-2003, 12:53 AM
Anna probably should've put a ;) after her statement, but it was obvious to me that she meant it lightheartedly. . .she's fairly new to the forum. Give her a break.
annalovesviggo
03-09-2003, 09:46 PM
I am really sorry if I offended anyone by calling you an idiot. it was meant to be lighthearted, and in future i will (as someone suggested) use a smiley face thing. i did not realise i would be analyzed. do people really take this so seriously that they pick up on such small things! oh well, i guess its nice to know someone saw my contribution- i've mainly been ignored before now!
Wolfshead
03-10-2003, 07:06 PM
The problem is with internet communication is that it can be difficult to convey just how seriously you are putting an opinion forth. Those smilie-type things make that easier, but it's always best to make it obvious, to avoid possible confrontations :)
And what's with me using a multitude of long words? :rolleyes:
Halasían
03-19-2003, 05:59 PM
I gave a read to the first book, and browsed some of the others in a bookstore. Very little seems to happen, though RJ does describe his women characters well ;)
Tolkien has a finite world and is much better in writing.
Beleg
03-17-2004, 05:25 PM
The first six books are on par with Lord of the Rings.
7th book is moderate. From the introduction of Cadsuane, it begin's to go downhill and last two books are very ordinary.
I don't have a problem with the Quartet of Rand though. ;) It is fantasy afterall and it isn't as if he is very descriptionary during those scenes.
Lord of Ry'leh
04-12-2004, 03:54 PM
Robert Jordan is a writer of enormous talent. His writing style is very simple and allows you to be swept up in the story, but still manages to relate a great deal of information without being dry.
However, after 9 books...it's time to stop. The Wheel of Time could have been enormous. It could have been huge. It could have been a Lord of the Rings for another generation. Robert Jordan destroyed any hopes of these future aspirations by having the story drone on and on and on. I read 'Eye of the World' and was blown away; I thought it was fantastic. Then I began to read 'The Great Hunt' but stopped when I thought, "8 more books after this? And the story still isn't over! No way."
The story is simply too long and drawn out, it loses a lot of momentum. If he had kept it to 3-5 books, it would have been 100% better.
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