Galadriel Good or Bad???

[Nenya3]

One of the most dissapointing parts of the movie, I feel, was the portrayal of Galadriel. Tolkien described her as beautiful, wise, and gentle. The movie really changed her character. She came across as cold and frightening. In the book all the characters left Lothlorien with a deep reverence and love for her (especially Gimli). None of these feelings came through in the movie though. I'm wondering if anyone else got this impression.

[Talimon]

That was deffinitely the feel of it. But look out for the Extended DVD coming in November. It's supposed to have tons of new Lothlorien footage.

[Anamatar IV]

gimlis present is shown in the extended dvd. Thats one step.

[joxy]

Originally posted by Talimon
That was definitely the feel of it. But look out for the Extended DVD coming in November. It's supposed to have tons of new Lothlorien footage.
The gift-giving scene included in the preview of the extended DVD looks excellent, with a much better idea of Galadriel's character.
It just makes me wish PJ had left time to include it and other scenes in the "theatrical" version- by NOT including some of his own inventions!

[Anamatar IV]

in the extended dvd the fellowship helps the lothlorien elves kill the orcs. thats not exactly book related. Hearing about all the good stuff in the extended dvd makes me regret buying the regular one. My parents arent gonna let me buy another one.

[joxy]

Originally posted by Anamatar IV
in the extended dvd the fellowship helps the lothlorien elves kill the orcs. Thats not exactly book related.
? I don't follow that; where and when does that happen? It certainly doesn't sound like anything from the book, so what's it all about?

[Talimon]

Anamatar is reffering to a scene that was originally shot. It may or may not make it into the Extneded Edition. There is no concrete script to go with this scene, but here are the screenshots that back up the fact that it was originally shot. Scroll to the bottom of the page to see some of the shots:

http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots_bk2/fotr_b2c06_scene1.htm

For some cool Lothlorien shots (including some from the gift giving scene), check out this next link. It's such a shame New Line put so much pressure on PJ to stay under the 3 hour mark. But at least we get it all on DVD:

http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots_bk2/fotr_b2c08_scene1.htm#top

Look at Gimilis eyes here. Priceless:

http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/torn_lutzimages/4331_cls.jpg

[Diamond Took]

Thankyou for those pictures, Talimon. yes, quintessential is a good site for pictures (although most of the pictures aren't that quality ;))

I think they should have kept the present-giving scene in the movie, because it was an essential part of Galadriel's charactar shining through.
I'll have to watch the extended version. ;)

[Sam_Gamgee]

yeah that was onyl the really thing that kinda bugged me about the movie. every non reader friend of mine that i saw it with was asking me why shes mean and scaring and if shes good or bad and i was like dude. and i was watching ti the other day going all they had to do too was ask cate to use different facial expressions and make her tone warm and it would of made a ton of difference. but o well i hear that in TTT she is nicer. and i heard that the plan was to make her seem mystical at first and develope her as really nice and stuff like in the book. but i think they coulda done it different.

[Diamond Took]

But then I suppose Galadriel isn't really either evil or good. Tolkien never said she was either, but IMO she just wanted to do anything to save her beloved lothlorien :)
and i think she was in the book tempted by the ring and set off a terrifying scene, but finally decided that it would best be destoyed.

[Talimon]

Judging by the Fellowships reaction to Galadriel in the books, it is a safe bet she was supposed to be beautiful and perilous. "Evil" is far from the mark, but then again I don't think she was really evil or anything in the movie. Like I said this should be further developed in the extended edition.

[Ariana Undomiel]

What keeps me positive about Galadriel is when she is first speaking to the fellowship on the flet in the white city. She smiles such a warm smile at Sam that you see that she looks with love upon those whose heart's are true. Also when she is standing on the banks of the great river waving goodbye, that part made her appear to almost be an angel. I am looking forward to the extended footage with her.

~Ariana

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Ariana Undomiel
What keeps me positive about Galadriel is when she is first speaking to the fellowship on the flet in the white city. She smiles such a warm smile at Sam that you see that she looks with love upon those whose heart's are true. Also when she is standing on the banks of the great river waving goodbye, that part made her appear to almost be an angel. I am looking forward to the extended footage with her.

~Ariana

My thoughts exactly! Very well said Ariana!:)

[Eledhwen]

Sil- Of the Flight of the Noldor Galadriel, the only woman of the Noldor to stand that day tall and valiant among the contending princes, was eager to be gone. No oaths she swore, but the words of Feanor concerning Middle-earth had kindled in her heart, for she yearned to see the wide unguarded lands and to rule there a realm at her own will.Galadriel was initially self-serving, and her adventure made her an unwitting accomplice to the kinslaying of the Teleri. She herself admits to having dreamed of posessing the One Ring, but by the time it was offered to her she had become a wise ruler and passed the test.

Talimon's post about Gimli was very welcome. Ithrynluin's signature about feanor's request for a lock of Galadriel's hair just emphasises the Lorien Elves' astonishment at Gimli's audacity at making a similar request; but that will have been nothing to their astonishment at her agreement. I think it emphasises the greatness of the Dwarf's love for Galadriel and her ability to recognise its purity.

I thought I'd add the quote from Ith's signature, just in case he changes it!: For Fëanor beheld the hair of Galadriel with wonder and delight.He begged three times for a tress,but Galadriel would not give him even one hair.

[Ariana Undomiel]

I am not saying that Galadriel wasn't strong willed, powerful, or determined in attitude and in stature. However, what I am saying is that she does have a gentle heart towards the simple, the meek, the courteous, and the true of spirit. But she IS NOT, I repeat IS NOT evil. She could have become so if she had taken the ring, but she proved that she had the strength of character and heart to refuse the ultimate power.

~Ariana

[Eledhwen]

I agree, Galadriel is not evil. I just believe that the timing of the One Ring coming to her was crucial to her not becoming evil. She said, in her speech at the time Frodo offered her the ring, that she had (past tense!) greatly desired it. Therefore, I surmise that if she had been offered the ring at the time she greatly desired it, she would have taken it and been consumed by it's power. However, the opportunity never arose. Millennia of betrayals, and battles against Morgoth and Sauron, taught her the contaminating nature of all evil, especially the Ring, and the wisdom she needed to "pass the test".

[LadyGaladriel]

*cough* I woul like a simple word .



GALADRIEL IS NOT EVIL BY NATURE.


In the booksI loved her!

Galadriel is kind towards kind people. She loves the meek and will help all you need it.


In the Movies (didnt like her much


She's a bit wishy washy to be totally honest I like the bit when she was tempted and the actress was good. Shame we didn't see a bit more of her.

[slayer]

the ring changes people, temporarily, when they are tempted by its power, which explains the "evil" scene in the movie, but PJ didnt show us the Galadriel we all know and love, first. Instead he put a non-developed character into a scene that portrayed her as evil and left it at that. When half of what you see from a character is them being evil, of course they are going to come off that way. PJ should have fully developed her first, letting us build a connection with her that wouldnt be shattered by one sentence and leaving us hating her.

[Talimon]

2 words: Extended Edition.

[Ariana Undomiel]

Hi FIVE, Talimon! Exactly what I would have said.

~Ariana