View Full Version : Who Will You Be Most Dissapointed About?
Ariana Undomiel
09-27-2002, 04:55 AM
Ok, so I love doing polls and here is another one. What I want to know is what new character you people will be most dissapointed with if they are not interpreted just like you had imagined. For example, I think that I will be most dissapointed about Treebeard if he is not potrayed well. I won't mind as much if they make some changes on characters such as Eowyn and Faramir, but I really really want Treebeard to be as close as possible to the book. So opinions on this people?
~Ariana
Talimon
09-27-2002, 07:44 AM
I agree that Treebeard will be key, but not so much due to the dialogue. I think the look and voice acting will play a key role here. If he looks too corny then it won't be convincing. To be quite honest I have very low expectations here. I just cannot see him coming together without feeling fake. Gollum is another matter. I actually have very high expectations for Gollum. He seems to be an easier charachter to do, no doubt due to the fact that Tolkien spent more time fleshing him out. I think when it comes to Treebeard people will have to have an open mind. I can live with some changes so long as he isn't too corny. That's my main fear.
As for everyone else I have been very highly impressed. I might have voted for Eowyn, but quite frankly nothing in the way she is rumoured to being changed bothers me. I am most excited about Theoden, Eomer, Grima and Faramir. The actors portraying humans in FotR did the best acting job (no doubt due to the lack of make-up), and TTT is packed with these great charachters. Other then Eomer, who is slightly shallow, all these other actors have very deep roles with big charachters arcs (Theoden especially). If the way Boromirs charachter arc in FotR is any indication as to how PJ is making these movies this leaves me trembling in anticipation. Just thinking of the scenes between Frodo, Sam, and Gollum make me shiver...
Flame of Anor
09-27-2002, 07:51 AM
I voted Treebeard...cuz he was one of my favorite characters in the books. But I am sure that I will be a little too excited to care the first time I see it.
-Flame
Thorin
09-27-2002, 07:55 AM
:eek:
Treebeard will be the one to watch for...I will not be disappointed, nor do I have high expectations because I don't think Tolkien himself could really create a visual representation of Treebeard that wouldn't come across as looking somewhat cheesy...Unfortunately, unlike Bombadil, PJ cannot easily erase it from the picture to avoid such a catastrophe....To be honest, I don't know what Treebeard should really look like in my mind's eye...It will be interesting to see.
Even before FoTR came out, I was pleased at how Theoden and Eowyn were cast. Wormtongue wasn't what I pictured, but I know Brad Dourif could act him great so I think that will be okay...
Gollum should be good, provided that he doesn't look fake like the cave troll in FoTR, or the troll in Harry Potter (graphics and digital effects wise)..They have the voice down perfect....
Talimon
09-27-2002, 08:20 AM
At the risk of hurting my proud American ego, I'd point out that all the non-American actors in FotR turned in exceptional performances (with the exception of Merry and Pippin, some might argue). To my knowledge all of the actors that are coming in TTT and RotK are either Australian or British. Maybe it's my subconcious, but somehow seeing native Britons speak in an English accent sounds better then Americans who've had voice-coaching. Bernard Hill as Theoden looks exceptional. Did you see the early preview, the one that showed after the movie in the theatres? He spoke a part of a poem from the books and it was just chilling.
DGoeij
09-27-2002, 03:16 PM
I don't think I will know about any dissapointment until I left the cinema. Treebeard is the most likely one, though. He's the one that can go very wrong most easily. But the cave troll did look alive and moved pretty good. If they made Treebeard like that, I have good hopes.
But the overall performance of the actors hasn't struck me as a mayor problem in the last movie. I expect they played as they were told to play and with the lines they were given. I did not like all of that, but it's hard for me to judge if that's the fault of the actor or the director and his team.
Talimon
09-27-2002, 10:05 PM
A little bit of both, but generally speaking good actors turn in good performances, regardless of what they're told.
DGoeij
09-28-2002, 02:01 PM
I guess you're right. My main problem has always been that I somehow do not easily distinguish between good and bad acting. I can see the difference between the performance of a play at school and in a commercial theatre, but that's about it.
Some people tell me that Sean Bean went a little 'over the top' in the scene where Boromir dies. IMHO, his character Boromir was quite emotional at that moment, so I figured he did pretty good.
As another example, I went to 'Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf' (in Dutch) this year, and to me, all four actors did great. My girlfriend and my parents told me later (and independently) that two actors were less convincing in their role than the other two. :confused:
Glorfindels Gal
09-28-2002, 02:51 PM
Just out of interest, does anyone think that treebeard in the animated LOTR looked like they would of expected him to?
I think he is the most likely to go wrong in the movie as well, btw.
Talimon
09-28-2002, 10:07 PM
Hel looked (and sounded) like a walking carrot.
Sam_Gamgee
09-28-2002, 11:12 PM
gollum, even though hes a filthy rat. el es muy importante
Glorfindels Gal
09-29-2002, 01:10 PM
Good some one else that agrees that treebeard was terrible in the animated one. I mean, he didn't fit the description at all!
Flame of Anor
10-01-2002, 05:43 AM
I just saw the New TTT trailer, and it has a little clip of Treebeard in it. I am thinking that I will not be upset about him if he turns out bad or ok. I am so excited for the Two Towers.
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Glorfindels Gal
10-05-2002, 10:49 AM
I do agree with you there, I'm excited about the new movie, but after the success of FOTR, it would be really sad if the other two films were really bad and got the characters all wrong and everything
Ithrynluin
10-05-2002, 10:52 PM
Judging by the trailer,I'd have to go with Eomer.I was really disappointed when I saw him,if only for a short while.I can't say why exactly - the "Eomer feeling" just wasn't there.
I love Eowyn,Gandalf and Treebeard in the trailer so I hope PJ & the crew don't mess something up there. (I edited this : it said "Eomer" instead of "Eowyn" - oops:o )
Talimon
10-06-2002, 10:23 AM
Well, Eomer is a somewhat shallow charachter in the books. Sure, he's a leader, but we never learn much about him. His most emotional scene is on the fields of Pellenor when he sees Eowyn "dead". That's about it. He's really a soldier, a warrior. He's not supposed to have a lot of "feeling".
Glorfindels Gal
10-06-2002, 04:15 PM
Oh yeah...I almost forgot...I don't think that Faramir looks anything like Boromir...I wouldn't guess they were brothers or anything!
Talimon
10-06-2002, 09:07 PM
Sorry to break this to you, but to strangers I don't look anything like my any of my brothers. Of course I can personally see how closely we resemble each other, but from a distance it's hard to tell. You need to look at how they move/act before you can judge how similar they really are. I'd be very dissapointed if PJ made them look like twins.
Darth Saruman
10-07-2002, 12:15 AM
The look like each other close enough to be believable.
Flame of Anor
10-09-2002, 02:01 AM
At first, I was a little taken aback by Eomer. That was just because I had only seen a glimpse of him, But after hearing his voice on the new trailer and how commanding it was, I think that he will fit the part just fine.
-Flame
DGoeij
10-09-2002, 01:38 PM
Both Eomer and Eowyn look older than I imagined them myself, but I'm not sure if that will be much of a problem. But as yet, Eowyn doesn't fit my idea of a 'young shield-maiden'. We'll see.
Glorfindels Gal
10-09-2002, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Talimon
Sorry to break this to you, but to strangers I don't look anything like my any of my brothers. Of course I can personally see how closely we resemble each other, but from a distance it's hard to tell. You need to look at how they move/act before you can judge how similar they really are. I'd be very dissapointed if PJ made them look like twins.
in the book it says "yet he felt in his heart that Faramir, though he was much like his brother in looks, was a man less self-regarding,both sterner and wiser"
course i know brothers don't always look alike, i have a massive family & i don't really look like any of my siblings!
I wouldn't want them 2 look like twin either though, but i just thought tolkien had made a reference to them looking similar in the book, & now that i've found it, i don't feel so stupid about my last post :)
Talimon
10-09-2002, 09:22 PM
Well, if you remember there is a scene in Rohan where a message bearer comes from Gondor with a red arrow, calling the Rohirrim to Gondors aid. Merry is innitially surprised, because the messanger looks so similar to Boromir. After reading that scene I just assumed that Faramir looking so similar to Boromir was simply from Sam/Frodo's point of view. He had never seen many men before, and from a distance they looked very similar. If you approach it from this point of view, then you can actually see how Faramir looks similar to Boromir. But like I said before, we'll have to see how he acts before judging.
Thorin
10-09-2002, 09:37 PM
Looks wise, I am most disappointed with Eomer....My image of him was sort of fair, short-haired and fair skinned, smooth chiseled face....Sort of a handsome, yet rugged sort....Not a big bearded human image of Gimli....Hopefully he will fill the part acting wise....Theoden is the best cast in my opinion. Faramir and Eowyn are good, though I was expecting Eowyn to look a bit more attractive then she is....
markrob
10-09-2002, 10:48 PM
Well I think Eowyn has a ravishing unique look to her, in other words a Rohirrim babe so to speak. Imagine that, you and I disagreeing on something.:p
Ariana Undomiel
10-09-2002, 11:44 PM
At first, I was a little taken aback by Eomer. That was just because I had only seen a glimpse of him, But after hearing his voice on the new trailer and how commanding it was, I think that he will fit the part just fine.
I totally agree. I had seen a few pics of Eomir and I thought he looked aweful. But now that I have seen him in the new trailer, I think he will be great!
~Ariana
Ariana Undomiel
10-09-2002, 11:46 PM
I think that Eowyn is stunning! Her voice is beautiful too when she speaks.
~Ariana
ms Greenleaf
10-10-2002, 01:12 AM
I am going to look stupid I know but who were casted for the parts that we may be disappointed with and if they are not well known a movie please:confused:
Farmer Giles
10-10-2002, 03:18 AM
I think that treebeard holds the most potential for dissapointment. As strange as it may seem, when I am reading the books, the world that the hobbits are in seems real, and less fantastic. The Ents bring the magic back into the story. If they are as good as the new trailer hints, I will not be dissapointed at all. :)
Ariana Undomiel
10-10-2002, 03:55 AM
Well said, Farmer Giles. Welcome to the forum!
~Ariana
DGoeij
10-10-2002, 05:29 PM
Agreement on that Farmer Giles, and welcome.
About Eowyn (the actrice, Miranda Otto), she does indeed look very, erm... (having trouble with my english here), well real. Like a human being. Very much NOT like the plastique faces of the so-called beautiful women from the magazines. I find a face like that rather attractive, but since the woman in question portrayels Eowyn, I still have the feeling she looks older than she should be looking. But, to speak with makrob's words, she does have this 'Rohirrim-Babe' look.:)
gate7ole
10-11-2002, 01:03 AM
My vote goes to Gollum. I don't thin kthey will capture his character, the strife between Smeagol and Gollum. But we will see in a couple of months...
Mrs. Maggott
10-12-2002, 12:47 AM
Pardon me, folks, but aren't we being just a teentsy-weentsy bit premature here? Perhaps the poll should be taken AFTER the movie is released otherwise we're setting ourselves up to be miserable NO MATTER WHAT! and that's kind of silly. :rolleyes:
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