If PJ made the Hobbit into a film.

[Eliot]

I think it would be awesome if Peter Jackson made the Hobbit into a movie. It wouldn't be as hard as LOTR plus it wouldn't be hard to get some actors back. For Bilbo: Ian Holm, Gandalf: Ian McKellan, Elrond: Hugo Weaving and Gollums voice: Andy Serkis. I think it would be a great movie. I think that adult and child alike would love it.

[Ramagna]

I think he'll do so after the LOTR has been showed around the world, and because it wasn't bad, I would appreciate it...

but there are other, independent movie makers out there, and if I find the link to one of them, I'll post it... ;)

[TheFool]

I'd be quite happy to see Peter Jackson make The Hobbit. In my eyes the man who made Braindead can do no wrong :cool: . One of the cleverest things I think though about his LOTR was the casting of young actors to play the hobbits (ie Elijah Wood) which gives the young audience something to relate to; I don't know if casting Ian Holm as an 'old' Bilbo would work...?

And another thing: would he use real dwarfs to play the dwarves (grammar!) or do the whole thing with 'normal size' people? A big PC issue there.

[Celebthôl]

I think that PJ has made the hobbit secretly and is letting nothing out on it and it will come out after ROTK (christmas after)

[Retrovertigo]

What makes you think that, Celebthôl?

[Celebthôl]

I dunno just a feeling, but on seeing that scene at the beggining of the film where Bilbo finds the ring i had a feeling that it was part of a bigger thing (i hope i'm right)

[Eliot]

I know Ian Holm is pretty old, but the movie would look pretty stupid if he's in LOTR and not in the Hobbit. I guess they could just use computers and some make-up to make him look younger. About the Dwarves, I guess you could just use the same trick they used in LOTR to make people look smaller.

Oh, almost forgot. They would have to get Saruman in the movie too.
For the white council parts. It would be an awesome movie.

[Ramagna]

I would just be happy to have something more related to Tolkien, if it's not done too bad...

No one can make every fan happy in his interpretation, cause everyone has a different imagination...

[Eliot]

True, but at least try to get it as authentic as possible and don't skip a lot of parts from the book.

[TheFool]

ah-ha! Anyone think of anything that would be left out of a film adaptation of the Hobbit? (assuming it would be about 2 & 1/2 hours long)

[Eliot]

Yeah, I guess there's not a lot to skip:D I think the battle of the five armies would be awesome.

[TheFool]

Maybe some of the songs/verses....

I think the relationships between Laketown and the other peoples would have to be delicately handled, when the story suddenly widens out.
Five armies, though, would indeed be awesome! That could be developed really well wrt the fate of Thorin and the other dwarves (instead of just from Bilbo's point of view!)

Just as long as Smaug is done right, and wouldn't end up like that disney-faced thing in 'Dragonheart', or *heaven forbid* Mr. Furry Dragon in 'Neverending Story' ;)

[Eliot]

Yeah, PJ would have to make Smaug look really good if they want to get a happy crowd:)

Like you said, they would have to get rid of all the songs. I think the finding of the ring by Bilbo would be a great part. I also would really enjoy the scene with the Trolls and also with the Eagles. They would have to use some good special effects on those scenes. Actually, almost all the scenes would need good special effects.

[Ariana Undomiel]

I think it would be quite splendid if PJ made The Hobbit into a live action film. I hope that he would stick to the book, have Howard Shore do the music, and get the same actors from LOTR to play their same characters. Although it might be a bit hard to have Ian Holm play Bilbo because even with lots of makeup he still looks older than I rather imagined him to be. But hey, I could live the change. LOL.

~Ariana

[TheFool]

You could probably fit the whole of t'Hobbit into a 3hr film without leaving stuff out.. PJ would be the no.1 choice cos of LOTR, even though I totally agree that loads of other directors could do it. Actually it might make more sense for a different director, given the difference in style/tone of Hobbit compared to LOTR. And I recall an interview with PJ where he was asked 'would you do it again' to which he replied 'Definitely not!!'.... even so.. ;)

[ltas]

Originally posted by Smeagol
Hey, why do you folks believe that PJ is the only one who could make the Hobbit into a movie? I would rather have somebody make a Hobbit film who stays true to the book.

Hey, everyone, this is what I read about it: according to Ian McKellen the film rights already belong to PJ. McKellen himself said that he would be interested to portray Gandalf again.

[Aragorn21]

I think it would rule if they made The Hobbit into a movie! But wouldnt they have to get not only McKellen but also Holms to act?

[ltas]

It would be great if Holm would play Bilbo, after all, if they hired Anthony Hopkins to play Hannibal in "Red Dragon" which takes place years before "The Silence of the Lambs", why couldn't Holm play Bilbo again... PJ has in his films messed up all the ages of the hobbits anyway, it wouldn't get any worse if Bilbo would be portrayed by a sixty-something man...

[Eliot]

Yeah, they would have to get Ian Holms, Ian McKellan, Hugo Weaving (Elrond) and Christopher Lee as Saruman.

[jknechtmann]

I do not think it would look strange if Ian Holm was not cast as Bilbo Baggins if Peter Jackson or anyone else adapted The Hobbit into a film just because he was in LOTR. Remember he is much younger in The Hobbit and although he does not age terribly one would expect a younger actor.

[TheFool]

IMO George Lazenby and Timothy Dalton were ,er, poor James Bonds. I though Ian Holm was an excellent Bilbo Baggins, even before seeing the film as he was an excellent Frodo in the radio play adaptation. However in my earlier post I raised the issue of having a 'young' Elijah-Wood type Bilbo as opposed to an 'old' Bilbo, in what would primarily be a "children's" film.

[Eliot]

Your opinion, of course.

[Mumak]

If PJ would make "The Hobbit":

1. Beorn would be cut out. (PJ would consider him unnecessary like Tom Bombadil and the Eagles could drop the dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood.

2. One of the dwarves and not the archer from Dale would kill Smaug.

3. A lovely dwarf princess (maybe Thorin's fiancee) would be introduced.

Just my thoughts...

[Arvedui]

You know who would probably make a good version of The Hobbit? Those same people who made 'Shrek' I watched it again this weekend, and find it incredibly funny, and well made. 'The Hobbit' is a book for children, and I think that Dreamworks would be able to come up with a very good solution for 'The Hobbit'.
*Bows his head and waits for someone to come storming in with the axe..*

[Beorn]

Originally posted by TheFool
I'd be quite happy to see Peter Jackson make The Hobbit. In my eyes the man who made Braindead can do no wrong :cool: . One of the cleverest things I think though about his LOTR was the casting of young actors to play the hobbits (ie Elijah Wood) which gives the young audience something to relate to; I don't know if casting Ian Holm as an 'old' Bilbo would work...?

And another thing: would he use real dwarfs to play the dwarves (grammar!) or do the whole thing with 'normal size' people? A big PC issue there.

I think PJ is braindead...In TLotR, Frodo was about midway through life: 50, and most hobbits lived somewhere around 100 years...so he shouldn't have been portrayed as a 21 year old...he was implicitly instructed by Gandalf never to use the ring, so we can be pretty sure he wasn't kept young by the ring.


Originally posted by Celebthôl
I think that PJ has made the hobbit secretly and is letting nothing out on it and it will come out after ROTK (christmas after)

It's a tiny bit hard to make a movie with probably around 500 in cast & crew, then media on scene, and still keep it secret...


Originally posted by Smeagol
Eru save us from PJ messing up another Tolkien book!
Woohoo!


Originally posted by Eliot
I guess they could just use computers and some make-up to make him look younger.
....
Oh, almost forgot. They would have to get Saruman in the movie too.
For the white council parts. It would be an awesome movie.

What happened to actually reading the book? No computers are required in your brain. Nothing is needed but your head and two hands. When you start pulling in computers, or have the need to, you've made the tale something that it isn't.

And, you woulnd't need Saruman: his character isn't mentioned once in The Hobbit.



Originally posted by Ramagna
I would just be happy to have something more related to Tolkien, if it's not done too bad...

No one can make every fan happy in his interpretation, cause everyone has a different imagination...

I would be happy if the movies were made so that they actually followed the book. Would that be too hard? I understand that everyone has a different imagination, but it is one heck of an imagination that can cut characters out, change a character's sex, and make Lothlorien look like Central Park on a rainy day. Would you like to see PJ screw up some pretty basic things again?

I bet the first thing to go would be the Wood Elves and spiders. All PJ would need to do is make Thorin & Co. (Assuming there is still Thorin ;)) create a raft and float down a lazy river. Then, just change 'I'm am barrel-rider' to 'I amd raft-rider'.

It is almost like a bibliography, or a story of the Bagginses. You can't just leave a chunk out of it! If you were telling about the Washingtons, would you leave out the American Revolution? No!



Originally posted by TheFool
PJ would be the no.1 choice cos of LOTR, even though I totally agree that loads of other directors could do it.

Funny that you would choose the one that not only made great changes (above mentioned Tom B., Arwen, Lothlorien) but useless minor changes too. Farmer Maggot was barely touched upon, aside from the whole carrots & cabbage deal. Pippin dropped a rock down the well in Moria, he didn't bump a skeleton down!


Originally posted by ltas
It would be great if Holm would play Bilbo, after all, if they hired Anthony Hopkins to play Hannibal in "Red Dragon" which takes place years before "The Silence of the Lambs", why couldn't Holm play Bilbo again... PJ has in his films messed up all the ages of the hobbits anyway, it wouldn't get any worse if Bilbo would be portrayed by a sixty-something man...

There is a large difference between maybe 5 or 10 years in Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs, and Hannibal and 60 years in The Hobbit and LotR. (Bilbo found the ring in III 2941. He left on his eleventy-first birthday in III 3001)


Originally posted by Nóm
Bilbo Baggins made the The Hobbit for me.

Yes! Bilbo wrote There and Back Again in his Red Book. Later on, the Red Book had had Frodo's tale of LotR in it.


Originally posted by Mumak
If PJ would make "The Hobbit":

1. Beorn would be cut out. (PJ would consider him unnecessary like Tom Bombadil and the Eagles could drop the dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood.

2. One of the dwarves and not the archer from Dale would kill Smaug.

3. A lovely dwarf princess (maybe Thorin's fiancee) would be introduced.

Just my thoughts...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You can't cut me ;)...Anyway, I think he would leave Beorn in because he's a convienent way for them to get food. Remember, they hadn't eaten since either the night they slept in the cave and were taken, or at the Eagle's, uh, overlook...I forgot what it was called...


Originally posted by Arvedui
You know who would probably make a good version of The Hobbit? Those same people who made 'Shrek' I watched it again this weekend, and find it incredibly funny, and well made. 'The Hobbit' is a book for children, and I think that Dreamworks would be able to come up with a very good solution for 'The Hobbit'.
*Bows his head and waits for someone to come storming in with the axe..*

:(:(:(
Remember, Shrek was not based on a book, so they could make chages while doing it. Not so with The Hobbit.

Also, The Hobbit isn't meant to be funny, but rather an adventurer's tale.

*chops off your head*

[Eliot]

All I'm saying is that if PJ put in the White Council parts, he should put in Saruman. It's just a possibility...

[Popqueen62]

I think that it would be really cool if Peter Jackson, or some really talented filmmaker would make The Hobbit into a movie. The funniest thing is seeing the cartoon version of the hobbit. I saw it a while ago, it was pretty stupid, but funny. I highly doubt that someone will make the hobbit into a movie, or at least not for a long time because in fotr it has sort of a summary of the hobbit at the beginning, just to make the trilogy make sense.

[TheFool]

Originally posted by Smeagol
You mean a really talented filmmaker instead of Peter Jackson ...
Already somebody talented should have made LOTR ...

Smeagol of course you are perfectly entitled to dislike the film adaptation. HOWEVER, to say that Peter Jackson is not a talented film-maker is, quite frankly, pathetic. Even if you don't like it, do you not appreciate what the people who have made these films have achieved..?!

[ltas]

Originally posted by Smeagol
I find it very disturbing how movie-goers always expect the save faces in the same roles, it's very annoying how the cinema sets limits on imagination this way.
I wouldn't mind at all if Bilbo, Gandalf or Elrond would be portrayed by different actors than in LOTR. However, in my opinion Holm's and Weaving's character interpretation was remarkably good and there is no need to look for new actors.

Originally posted by Beorn
There is a large difference between maybe 5 or 10 years in Red Dragon, Silence of the Lambs, and Hannibal and 60 years in The Hobbit and LotR. (Bilbo found the ring in III 2941. He left on his eleventy-first birthday in III 3001)
That's true, and Frodo was not the youngest hobbit in the Fellowship of the Ring. All I am saying is that if PJ is going to direct another Tolkien interpretation, Ian Holm might as well play Bilbo again.

[ltas]

Originally posted by Smeagol
Excuse me, but Weaving portrayed Elrond as a weird fag who has been smoking something. And his pronounciation of Elvish is a bad joke.
This is not my vision of Elrond, and surely was not Tolkien's as well.
Weird fag?! I would love to hear your reasons for having such an opinion...

It is impossible for an actor to portray a character in a way it would resemble everyone's individual vision. Nevertheless, I found Weaving's portrayal of Elrond quite convincing. In the film Elrond appeared to have a lot of authority, wisdom and diplomacy, that image IMO, resembles the image of Elrond in Tolkien's books.

[TheFool]

Originally posted by Smeagol

This is not my vision of Elrond, and surely was not Tolkien's as well.
*sigh* so it's OK for you to presume what Tolkien's vision was, and for you yourself to 'adapt' one of his pictures, but it's not OK for Peter Jackson et al?

[Eliot]

You know, if you're so sick of PJ, why don't you just quit talking about him?

[Ice Man]

Yeah, I'd love the see a The Hobbit movie. They should make it...

[ltas]

Originally posted by Smeagol
BTW Elrond is supposed to be good looking, since he is the son of Earendil and Elwing.

But we are not discussing here how is Elrond supposed to look, or if Weaving looked good enough for the role, are we? According to your statement "Weaving portrayed Elrond as a weird fag...". I'm just curious what details of his performance (in the voice, about the gestures, in his style of self-expression...) left you that impression?

[Arvedui]

From Beorn:
Remember, Shrek was not based on a book, so they could make chages while doing it. Not so with The Hobbit.
Also, The Hobbit isn't meant to be funny, but rather an adventurer's tale.

*chops off your head*
*Glues head back on to answer*

My point is that those people who made Shrek did a very good job describing the enviroment and the characters. Of course they would have to stick to the book. My point was not humor, but skill.

[Beorn]

but it sure is the worst adaption of a book for a movie in history, too.

Actually, that would be A Knight's Tale from Canterbury Tales. It's not even remotely the same...Basically it's the basic idea of 'winning the girl' and the Medieval culture with a different plot ;)

*Glues head back on to answer*
*chops it off for the fun of it*

My point is that those people who made Shrek did a very good job describing the enviroment and the characters. Of course they would have to stick to the book. My point was not humor, but skill.
Is this whole thread about making portraying a movie accurately, or is it about designing an environment from pictures already drawn? There's a big difference between mimicking a book and making an environment. Arwen instead of Glorfindel is an example of inaccuracy, not an example of the environment.

[ltas]

Originally posted by Smeagol
Isn't Elrond supposed to show dignity, wisdom, strength and beauty. Weaving has none of those qualities. And it's worse in the movie where he has those redicilous braids and wears a tiara.

Hopeless. Smeagol, we seem to live on different planets ;). It's really amazing that an actor's character interpretation can be understood so differently by people. Oh, well.

BTW, an actor does not usually have the possibility choose his/hers make-up and clothing ;).

[Kelonus]

I think it would be good as well but for Gandalf, wouldnt it have to be a younger actor as well for Bilbo.

[Nob Boffin]

I have read the books a number of times, going back to 1971 and I really do not have that much trouble with the movie or PJ"S interpretation of it. As to the 'Tiara' you refer to, did not he books say that Elrond wore a circlet of silver with a star on his brow, or at least something like that. I suspect that you would be hard pressed to find a director with as nuch clout, and as sympathetic th the story as a whole.

If they make the Hobbit PJ gets my vote.

[Froggum]

I think making a film of The Hobbit is very doable. Ian Holm is rather old for it, but They could always young him up a bit. And they wouldn't have to too much. The ring kept him amazingly young looking all those years, remember? I believe its somewhere in the first few chapters of FotR. I have a friend who's a mod on one of the forums for the films and sometimes they let things slip to the mods. She's heard that Ian has hinted at them doing the Hobbit as well.

[TheFool]

Yeah but the thing is with Bilbo is that because it would primarily be a 'children's' film, would children actually relate well to an 'old' Bilbo? (let's forget for a minute the fact that the fan-base guarantees a box office return ;) ). This is why they cast a teenager as Frodo in LOTR.

But whatever, the snippet you post brings a huge expectant grin to me face :D

[ltas]

Originally posted by Nóm
Peter Jackson had his fun, I say let someone else take a stab at The Hobbit. I think most of us could have a pretty close idea to what PJ's Hobbit would be like. Nothing new.
I'd rather see someone else do it.

Absolutely! It would be wonderful to see a different interpretation. Alas, as I already mentioned before, PJ already owns the rights to "The Hobbit". (At least according to I.McK., I'm not sure if he's a reliable source or not ;)). I'm afraid we ain't gonna see another Tolkien interpretation in our lifetime :(...

[lightingstrike]

It would just be cool to see the movie done with real characters and with the techknowledgy we have now a days. My reading class just got through reading the book and then we watched the most idiotic movie of a book I've ever seen. It was animated[warning #1] and they the stupidist theme song in the world [#2]. Bilbo looked like a chipmunk [#3], and you should have seen the way they had things die. They had Bilbo kill the spider for instance, and when it died, they had it spin into a background. So, yeah, that would be cool to see how PJ would do it.


P.S. Did I mention that Gollum looks like a frog in that movie?!

[krash8765]

peter jackson is not doing the hobbit but said that it is open for grabs by other directors

[Eledhwen]

Originally posted by krash8765
peter jackson is not doing the hobbit but said that it is open for grabs by other directors New Line Cinema apparently have first refusal rights for making The Hobbit after LotR is finished. The film rights for LOTR and The Hobbit are held by Saul Zaentz; distribution rights seem to be held by MGM/United Artists. Note it is New Line, and not PJ who have the options here. Someone else could write and direct it.

[ltas]

Originally posted by Eledhwen
New Line Cinema apparently have first refusal rights for making The Hobbit after LotR is finished. Note it is New Line, and not PJ who have the options here. Someone else could write and direct it.

That's a nice perspective. Might even consider seeing it if it would be directed by someone who does not feel obligated to adapt the story according to standards set by Hollywood. Oh well, one can dream ;).

[Calimehtar]

If they make THE HOBBIT, I could see them giving a hint about the Necromancer being Sauron at the end of the movie! That would be good! That way it helps the movie lead of to FOTR!

[Calimehtar]

If PJ would make "THe HObbit":3. A lovely dwarf princess (maybe Thorin's fiancee) would be introduced.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A FEMALE DWARF LOOKS LIKE?!

They look just like the men. They have beards and stuff! I hope PJ doesnt make a LOVELY dwarf princess!

[Nob Boffin]

I read an interview recently, I cannot recall where, and apparently when New Line aquired the rights for The Lord Of THe Rings they got The Hobbit by default. So what that says is New Line could make a version of the Hobbit, but PJ is not a shoe in to do it.

[Ascamaciliel]

Oh i would love to have The Hobbit made into a movie! I think it would be amazing if PJ did it. I probably wouldn't want someone else to do it. I know that's kind of stupid, but seeing how hard PJ worked on LOTR and how wonderful LOTR looked, I think I would only trust him to do it. I would be afraid someone else would do a bad job, and I really really love The Hobbit. I'm sure he would change some things, but that's okay, because books cannot be directly converted to movies. I hope he does it!

[morello13]

pj has the bag end set in storage, he plans too live in it some day, but he can use it fomr the hobbit now

[smeagol444]

I think it would be brilliant if they made the hobbit into a movie---why not?
for younger kids who find that tlotr is too complex and not to their liking, the hobbit is a way to get them interested in tolkein's works. No man can die without reading tlotr.

[Wynston]

With the money that LoTR is making, and will continue to make, I would bet serious money that the Hobbit will be made into a movie (s) in the next 5 years or so.

Who will do it, who knows? PJ is a logical choice, and while I am a huge fan of the films so far, it would be interesting to see somone else's interpration of Tolkien's work.

It could probably be done in one movie, although 2 2 1/2 to 3 hour movies would probably do it more justice. There is actually quite a lot in the Hobbit, and they could even pull some stuff from the Quest of Erebor in Unfinished Tales to set up why they are going to the Lonely Mountain. (Like when Gandalf meets Thorin in Bree). Whatever is done, I just hope its done well.

P.S. As I thought about other Directors doing the Hobbit, I thought about directors I wouldn't like see do it. Not that they're terrible directors, but just that their styles wouldn't fit. For instance, imagine John Woo directing the Hobbit. You'd have slow mo action scenes of Bilbo and the Dwarves. =). Just a funny thought.

[TheFool]

Originally posted by Wynston
imagine John Woo directing the Hobbit
lol starring Nicholas Cage, in a John Woo film, 'The Hobbit' - there goes the PG rating :D

[Tuilin]

YES!!pj/somebody else should HURRY..ian holms getting a bit old...
imagine smaug on screen:D *faints* he would be so beautifull if they made him after some of tolkiens paintings of him!
~Dragons Live~

[ltas]

Oh yes... Smaug... I would love to see a film where dragons are not portrayed as monsters (like in "Reign of Fire"), but instead as magnificent beautiful majestic creatures they are.

[Tuilin]

YES!!!I totally agree with you Itas:D :) :D
To bad he gets shot...Tolkien was a superb dragonpainter. One of the Smaugs on a map is so beautifull!

[PipaHappyHobbit]

Hey guys/GALS, I was just thinking wouldn't it be kinda neat if PJ or somebody would make The Hobbit into a movie?:D I know they have a animated "kids" version, but I mean a "REAL" good version.
Does anybody else think that it would be neat?

[HLGStrider]

I think this is in the wrong section of the forum... I've seen a lot of that today for some reason, though...

I would sort of like to see it, but of course I'd sort of like to see a movie of the Lay of Luthien (I'd do it animated in old fashion disney style... you know, I don't really like the anime stuff, so I'd have it done like Sleeping Beauty OR BEAUTY AND THE BEAST... that was great...).

[Húrin Thalion]

What do you think Tolkien would have thought of a disney style movie?

From letter 13, on the illustration of a possible American edition:

It might be advisable to, rather than loose the American interest, to let the Americans do what seems good to tehm- as long as it was possible to (I should like to add) to veto anything from or influenced by the Disney studios (for all whose works I have a heartfelt loathing).

I completely agree.

Húin Thalion

[Aulë]

The problem with "Disneyfying" The Hobbit would be that the Battle of Five Armies would not be portrayed as well.

[Viewman]

That would be vaery cool :D:D

[Legolaschick]

I think that that is a great idea!!!!

[omnipotent_elf]

let me say that the idea is awesome, and if he ever made one, i'll be first in line for thorin!!:D

but how can they make one? they have already created the character of bilbo, and no matter how hard the try, they wont be able to get him young again. He is already a charcter of special significance, and as such, u cannot shoot another person as bilbo. also it would confuse all of the non book reading lord of the rings fans to see two bilbos

[Bib]

Making the movie of The Hobbit would be great.

More dwarves!:D

And besides the dwarves I would really like to see what PJ could make of Beorn in The Battle of Five Armies.

[Isenho]

wow, a movie version would be awsome! as i'm reading the book, i am always thinking in my mind how a movie version would be like. hee

[faila]

I can only think of one thing they might leave out and that would be the bear dude, whats his name? I cant remember, but he adds nothing to the story.

[Eliot]

You mean Beorn? Unfortunately, they probably WOULD leave him out. I really like him a lot.

[C496]

I think that it would be great time the if they made the Hobbit into a movie as long as PJ didnt direct it. Hes gone to far off the story line. I think that we the members of thetolkien forum should direct:cool:

[omnipotent_elf]

I think that it would be great time the if they made the Hobbit into a movie as long as PJ didnt direct it. Hes gone to far off the story line. I think that we the members of thetolkien forum should direct

well if thats the case
*puts hand up *
i wanna be thorin, ooh ooh, pick me

[Ecthelion]

That would be cool if The Hobbit was made a movie. Even if I didnt really like the book I would go just to see Bombur!:D

[LordOfMoria]

does anyone know if PJ or New Line is going to try and develope the Hobbit??

[Burb]

i heard a rumor that they were making a movi, but i dont think its true. if it is, it wont be released for a long time.

[FoolOfATook]

There have been some threads about this idea in the movie forums recently, and I think that the general consensus that emerged was that it seems unlikely that PJ will go back and do The Hobbit for a number of reasons. I've always maintained that one of the chief obstacles is Ian Holm's age. For the scene in the FOTR prolouge as "Young Bilbo", Holm had to have the skin on his face literally taped back, to smooth out some of his wrinkles- I suspect that Holm would be reluctant to subject himself to that for the entire length of a shoot. However, after the enormous profits from the LOTR films, Hollywood will be foaming at the mouth for the chance to make more Tolkien films, and The Hobbit is the only Middle-earth story left that would be easily adapted to film...

[LordOfMoria]

Oh im sure they will come to it sooner or later! I suspect they are trying o persuade PJ and Sir Ian Holms to do it!!!

[Mirabella]

Personally, I hope they don't do it. Not that I haven't enjoyed TFOTR and TTT, but it would just seem so anticlimatic. But, Hollywood being what it is, it would not surprise me in the least if it didn't get done somewhere down the line, with or without PJ and Iam Holmes.

[Burb]

perhaps they will get a younger actor to play bilbo and hope no one will notice?

hollywood's done it before.
:mad:

[Kelonus]

From what I heard, PJ said he wasnt doing The Hobbit. Who knows, something might come up.

[Lasgalen]

My guess is that other hollywood types will want their piece of the pie and it won't even be NLC or PJ that does "The Hobbit". If that is the case, they will use their own actors and the question of Ian Holm's age won't matter.

-Lasgalen

[BlackCaptain]

Dont worry everyone!
When im old enough, im makin a Hobbit movie. And its gonna be 100% based on the books, unlike TFOTR, and TTT.
hehe, so ur all just gonna have to wait another 20-30 years!

haha, even though ill probly never get around to it, its a fun thought

[LordOfMoria]

you know, i think it would be funny as hell to see some random guy make a "home movie" of the Hobbit with his friends and junk. Based 100% on the books. Well i guess it wouldnt be as funny if u didnt know em! But it still would be!

[BlackCaptain]

THATS WHAT ILL DO!!!

Great Idea Aran Moria! (lil bit of elvish there! Should I have Lenited Moria to Voria? thats a question for any of you elvish speakers out there)

[LordOfMoria]

Originally posted by MorgulKing
THATS WHAT ILL DO!!!

Great Idea Aran Moria! (lil bit of elvish there! Should I have Lenited Moria to Voria? thats a question for any of you elvish speakers out there)

LOL send me a copy if you do!!!

[balrog]

i would welcome the prequil, abd make quite the action sequence with the battle of 5 armies!

[33Peregrin]

I would wish, were it to any avail, that PJ would make the Hobbit! I would like that... It would be so much fun to sit down and watch all four movies nonstop. I think that movie would be great. I don't think PJ would do it though... and I don't think it would fit if anyone else made it. Maybe we could like all beg him or something.

I don't think it would be a problem with Ian's age. He appears to be a 50 year old hobbit, even at the age of 111. It would be great, even if they did use someone else.;)

[LordOfMoria]

I would like it better if they used the same cast! Gandalf, an McKlellen, Biblo - Ian Holms. i dont think any othe characters were in the hobbit that were in LOTR that PJ would have to worry about

[BlackCaptain]

hehe... IANS UNITE!!!

[FoolOfATook]

i dont think any othe characters were in the hobbit that were in LOTR that PJ would have to worry about

He would have to get Andy Serkis back. Elrond shows up in a fairly important supporting role in The Hobbit as well. I don't think that anyone would notice if we got an actor playing Gloin other than whoever played him in the CoE scene.

[BlackCaptain]

I think he should find someone else for Gollum. I thought he looked too much like a regular person in TTT. And in the movie, i didnt think Gollum's eyes were too distinct. Eomer's eyes were clearer and more vivid

[mr underhill]

i dunno why but ive always picture gollum as a goblin-like creature....

green with pointy ears but not as gross as an orc and more intelligent .

In the movie he looks more like a human or a hobbit...

i pity those who read LOTR after the movies with the stupid picture of Elija wood in their head whenever they read the word frodo.. the whole fun of a book is using your imagination....

i still think that my portrayal of LOTR beats PJ's hands down but everyone would say that..

[LordOfMoria]

Originally posted by mr underhill
i dunno why but ive always picture gollum as a goblin-like creature....

green with pointy ears but not as gross as an orc and more intelligent .

In the movie he looks more like a human or a hobbit...

i pity those who read LOTR after the movies with the stupid picture of Elija wood in their head whenever they read the word frodo.. the whole fun of a book is using your imagination....

i still think that my portrayal of LOTR beats PJ's hands down but everyone would say that..

Well first gollum is hobbit so he will look like a withered away one. Second if people have seenthe movie then read the books, they cant help but picture frodo and all the other characters how they look!!!

[BlackCaptain]

Gollums skin was too smooth in TTT. but i guess thats in the eyes of the beholder.

[LordOfMoria]

Yeah but i think WETA put aincedible amount of detail on him!!! Thats how i pictured gollum!

[LordOfMoria]

i still think that my portrayal of LOTR beats PJ's hands down but everyone would say that..


Well, personally, i think that is a bunch a BS cause how is your vision of it better than mine or anyone else's. That was a real immature comment u made! And realy made me filp!!!

[Saucy]

there is a movie it's a cartoon! it's really quite dumb but a new real life movie would be 2 cool!:)

[Evenstar373]

personnaly i think that they should made the Hobbit
befor LOTR :confused:

[jallan]

I can see it now.

The Hobbit expanded into three films, which means three times as much money.

Bolg son of Azog will be promoted to a major character, who follows the company and growls a lot and watches his fellow Orcs die while he doesn’t shoot arrows from his bow.

Elrond will make disparaging comments about Dwarves, but find them better than weak Men.

Beorn will be replaced by Arwen who is under a bear enchantment.

Young Aragorn will pull Arwen’s hair when he accompanies her and Bard in the rescue of Arwen’s mother Celebrían from the Orcs.

Arwen will comfort young Aragorn when he wakes up at night terrified from nightmares of broken swords and being a king.

It will turn out that Glóin is actually a pregnant female dwarf and she will give birth to baby Gimli during the film.

The central film will take place entirely in Mirkwood, featuring a one-hour siege of Dol Guldur by Gandalf and the White Council, including aid from Elves led by Legolas and Haldir.

It will be raining all the time.

There will be consant cutting to female Orcs and cute Orc children terrified in caves.

Young Théoden will be convinced that everyone is going to die.

Baby Gimli will burp on his baby beard.

Radagast will shape change into a moth and become stuck in that form.

Baby Gimli will fall off a pony.

Arwen will kill Bolg in single combat, which will free her from her enchantment.

Young Aragorn will do something or other heroic to prevent the other Orcs from interfering.

Bard will defeat the evil master of Laketown in single combat.

Baby Gimli will burp on Legolas.

[Tuilin]

hehe:D
But you forgot the dragon...
Smaug will take Arwen and Aragorn will save her and slay Smaug...

[Ithilin]

Originally posted by MorgulKing
THATS WHAT ILL DO!!!

Great Idea Aran Moria! (lil bit of elvish there! Should I have Lenited Moria to Voria? thats a question for any of you elvish speakers out there)

it's Aran Moria..you don't lenit proper nouns i don't think..*ahem*
anywho..:rolleyes: ;)

YES!!! if someone (preferably someone like MorgulKing who has some basic respect for a genius like Tolkien) made The Hobbit into a film (i personally don't care who plays who, as long as they preform in such a way that makes them worthy of playing in a Tolkien-based film) that would be great:D

but then again, PJ would probably screw it up like he did in LotR, so maybe it's best to leave atleast SOME of Tolkien's masterpieces untainted..:rolleyes:

[Tuilin]

If someone would film The Hobbit(not PJ) they would probably seek the counsel of PJ because he made the so called "masterpieces" Lotr...and he would screw it up...:rolleyes:

[ssgrif]

I dont know about a film version of The Hobbit, but how about Sierra Online creating a console game of the Hobbit?

check it out:

click here (http://special.reserve.co.uk/news/story.php?id=2464)

[Ithilin]

KOOLNESS!!:) cant wait till its out..

[Melko Belcha]

I think PJ could do a good job directing but thats it, keep him away from the script, or The Battle of Five Armies will be twice the size of The Last Alliance. Plus he would spend a hour having Bilbo tossing the Dwarves across the Enchanted River, and then some more Dwarf tossing to reach the side door.
Maybe he will even make his hyenas (Wargs) break down and start laughing at the Dwarves in the trees.

[Tolkien Adictee]

I think it should be done. Also, I think that because the Hobbit is shorter than LOTR that it could include more of the characters from the book.

[Tuilin]

I think PJ should keep his filthy hands off "The Hobbit"...
But he has said something about that he´ll never film The Hobbit...Lets hope hell keep his...uhm...promise.

[Melko Belcha]

The Hobbit could easily be a 3 to 4 hour movie, but I bet no movie company would go for more than a hour and a half or two at the most.

[Se-maj#617]

Hey it's me Se-maj #617,

I have to say, I loved TFOTR, I loved TTT, and I'm sure i will love TROTK. And If he made a The Hobbit I will love it also. I have to agree that PJ will have to make Smaug look aswome. But will he take out the Bear-man and the things hurling rocks just before they enter the cave. Also it probably won't be as ahrd as LOTR because it's only one book.

[Feanorian]

I believe Sean Astin has expressed more interest in making the hobbit then PJ, but who knows. Do they have the rights to make The Hobbit, I know New Lines Cinemas has LOTR rights but do they or any other major movie production company have the rights to making that movie?

[Tuilin]

I dont think PJ should be permitted to touch The Hobbit.
Very scary...poor Smaug...

[Lasgalen]

Poor Smaug? What about the Dwarves! Imagine 13 comic reliefs all in one movie. :rolleyes:

-Lasgalen

[Tuilin]

Poor Dwarves too!!!!
Definately poor dwarves, just look what he did to Gimli!..

[Ithilin]

yeah, Jackson turned him into a funny little santa clause who everybody laughs at...:mad:

[Tuilin]

Diie PJ, diie:mad:

[33Peregrin]

I actually liked Gimli in the movies. I didn't like how they used him for comic relief, though. I only laughed at a few things......

[The_Swordmaster]

Yes it would be to much of an opertunity for PJ to make countless dwarf jokes since it is basicly a dwarven story.

[Gandalf White]

Yikes!!! Don't generalize!!! Gimli was fine in the FotR, just taken a bit too far in TTT. Oh well.

[laurelindorenan]

I think that a movie of the Hobbit might turn out pretty well. I would be sceptical at the beginning, but as there's not much to cut out, PJ might for once stick to the book. The songs would obviously be cut, and Smaug might be a bit dodgy, but it could be ok. The battle of five armies would be spectacular to see, if it is done right. It would be nice to see more developement on the story of the ring. Not sure about the dwarfs though...

[e.Blackstar]

If he did it like LOTR, no way Jose! Otherwise, sure.

[Gandalf White]

Originally posted by Treyar
If he did it like LOTR, no way Jose! Otherwise, sure.

LOL! You do realize that means you're fine with the horrible Narnia videos we have now.

Think about it....

PJ:Great actors / Narnia:Good actors

PJ:Awesome special effects/costumes/makeup/sets / Narnia: Laugh/Awful lion suit (otherwise pretty well done costumes)/ very good makeup/horrid sets(for the most part)

PJ: Deviated from story / Narnia:Stayed true to story


Just think about, you don't really need another Narnia video(s), you have what you want now!

[Eledhwen]

Interesting!

Has anyone changed their minds, in light of TTT?

Perhaps the poll should be run again.

[Lasgalen]

I will reserve judgement until after I see RotK. Maybe it will follow the books a little bit better than TTT did.