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Proudfoots
11-20-2002, 05:48 PM
How should the question of Muslim extremism in Asia be solved?
This goes beyond 9/11 and Afganistan...
Israel and the Palestinians
Xinjiang (chinese turkmens) and China
Chechnya and Russia
India and Pakistan
Rebels in the Philipines
Indonesia
Tamil separatists in Sri Lanka (i am not sure if they are muslim)
Iraq and the Kurds
Smoldering beads of revolution in Saudi Arabia
It is a continent in conflict, small fires that are all linked to a common source, based on a religion that says that life is sacred.
A theology based on peace corrupted by a tiny minority fighting in a post colonial/post cold war world.
Where are we headed, what is to happen on this planets largest land mass?
'foots
Anamatar IV
11-20-2002, 06:53 PM
its gonna fall a few hundred feet in elevation;)
There really isnt a way to solve it. Isreal and Palestine have been fighting for years. Negotiations have happened so have stand stills yet war will come. Thats really the only example Im learned in though.
we are headed for war. We already have demolished an entire muslim extremist country. Soon Iraq will gather all of the axis of evil towards him (woah! Thats tolkien right there;) ) and there'll be a WWIII.
Or not. I dunno.
Gloer
11-20-2002, 11:12 PM
abandon those who misintrepret their faith. they will demand economic growth and wealth. Fundamentalists are simply going to die out. They are a minority already. Loud one - true - but loosing grasp of influence on everyday life and politics.
In Turkey the overwhelming majority of the people voted in a liberal democrat Erdogan. His party is muslim, but regards religion as a not very central issue. They compare themselves to the Christian Democrats of Germany.
What is this signaling?
It isthe first time a democratically elected party is forming the government in a muslim nation that has formerly embraced secular-nationalism (which is oppressive to religion).
They are the future of the muslim world:
Moderate and democratic economically oriented real-politicians that are wise enough to embrace the faith of the people.
There is no seed for conflict here.
BTW war in Iraq is over in weeks. And Saddam knows it.
Asha'man
11-21-2002, 05:07 AM
It is a continent in conflict, small fires that are all linked to a common source, based on a religion that says that life is sacred.
Oh my. I take it you're talking about Islam here? If you're not, please forgive me, but you're completely and totally off-base here. Islam is *not* a peaceful religion, nor does it respect life. I have a book that you should read, called "The Thousand-Year War" by Richard J. Maybury. It explains why the Middle East is such a hotbed of hate and aggression, and the bottom-lying factor is Islam, a hateful, murderous religion.
Ash
Proudfoots
11-21-2002, 05:10 PM
From the Koran 29:46
"Do not argue with the followers of earlier revelation otherwise than in the most kindly manner - unless it be such of them as are set on evil doing - and say "we believe in that which has been bestowed upon us, as well as that which has been bestowed upon you: for our God and your God is one and the same, and it is unto him that we surrender ourselves"
Every religion gets corrupted into violence, look at Europe after the fall of the Roman empire, conquest and conversion under fire and sword. Then there was the crusades, they lasted for about 400 years, attacking who? Muslims (then called infidels)
Then there was Spain, a civil war that lasted another 500 years against the infidels.
Violence is inherent in humanity.
Some violent people happen to use religion as there reason
That does not mean that Islam is a violent religion, no matter what you book told you.
'foots
Legolam
11-22-2002, 12:19 PM
the bottom-lying factor is Islam, a hateful, murderous religion I can't believe you could be quite so ignorant and racist, Ash. As Proudfoots pointed out, Islam is not a religion rooted in hate, just the same as any other religion. Some people use religion as an excuse for their actions, but Christianity isn't exactly blameless in this respect. Neither is Judaism. It's human nature.
EDIT: I didn't mean for that to sound like a personal attack on Ash, just on the way he expressed his view
tom_bombadil
11-26-2002, 12:11 PM
Personally I think we should leave them to it and only take action when it affects our countrys.
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