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Finrod
11-30-2002, 08:06 PM
What does anyone know about the lands beyong Beleriand and the lands discussed in TLOTR and The Sil?

Ithrynluin
11-30-2002, 08:22 PM
I would recommend that you check out Karen Wynn Fonstad's "Atlas of Middle Earth".:)

Beleg
07-05-2003, 08:57 AM
Middle Earth consisted of the Following regions mentioned IN LOTR and other books.


1. Beleriand (destroyed and sunk)
2. Lindon (part of Beleriand which survived the destruction of Beleriand)
3. Eriador (In which Duendain established the Kingdom of Arnor, also Included Shire, basically the North West of Middle-Earth)
4. Gondor (The area was named after the Kingdom that was established their. It mostly consisted of Land North of Harad but south of Eariador. Mordor and the Great river Anduin usually formed the Eastern Boundry of Gondor)
5. Rhovinion (Area east of Misty Moutains as far the Inflow of Carnen into Celduin. Included the forst of Mirkwood and the wide lands that lay about south and east of it.)
6. Rhun (Easternmost land)
7. Khand (Some include this in Rhun, but In LOTR map it is mentioned as a seperate commodity. Located inbetween Harad and Rhun with Mordor acting as it's western Boundries)
8. Near Harad (Northern Part of Harad)
9. Far Harad (Southern Part of Harad; warm)
10. Mordor (The Dark confines of Mordor were encircled by the Shadow and Ash mountains from the North and West. Sauron made his fortress in Mordor)
11. Frodwaith (Northern Waste)
Other Continents in Arda were 'The Dark Lands and Aman' although Aman was taken away from the circles of Arda after the destruction of Numenor.

Inderjit S
07-07-2003, 07:35 PM
There were several other continents. 'Endor' or Middle-Earth where the events of the F.A+ primarily took place, and it was divided into 'two'. Mr. Micheal Martinez decides to name them Forendor and Harendor (north and south Endor) and they translate into 'North-Endor' and 'South Endor'. i believe that South Endor was shaped very much like a primeval Africa, though one can assume that the parts of Harad we see in the map for LoTR are part of Harendor.

There was also Aman and two other continents named the 'Dark Lands' which the Akkalbeth tells us the Númenóreans visited. Read HoME 4 The Shaping of M-E for some more info on the maps.

Lantarion
07-08-2003, 04:07 PM
And might I add that, according to the aforementioned, extremely informative work An Atlas of Tolkien's Middle-earth, the 'Hither Lands' which were connected to Middle-earth by Far Harad look stunigly like Africa. :)

But I have a question: before the Change, before Aman was lifted from Arda, it was a huge continent roughly the size of the Americas, right? But hen it was lifted, "new lands" were palced there, I remember this from the Silmarillion. I don't have the Atlas here with me right now, but does it show the new continent that was put in place of Aman?

Beleg
07-08-2003, 04:37 PM
Posted by Lantarion
But I have a question: before the Change, before Aman was lifted from Arda, it was a huge continent roughly the size of the Americas, right? But hen it was lifted, "new lands" were palced there, I remember this from the Silmarillion. I don't have the Atlas here with me right now, but does it show the new continent that was put in place of Aman?

I dont think It could have happened, since the World was made round and now It became possible to reach East by travelling west and South by travelling North.
I think It were merely a way of usage.

Lantarion
07-10-2003, 03:15 PM
From the Akallabêth:
But the land of Aman and Eressëa of the Eldar were taken away and removed beyond reach of Men for ever. And Andor, the Land of Gift, Númenor of the Kings, Elenna of the Star of Eärendil, was utterly destroyed. For it was nigh east of the great rift, and its foundations were overturned, and it fell and went down into darkness, and is no more. And there is not now upon Earth any place abiding where the memory of a time without evil is preserved. For Ilúvatar cast back the Great Seas west of Middle-earth, and the Empty Lands east of it, and new lands and new seas he made; and the world was diminished, for Valinor and Eresëa were taken from it into the realm of hidden things.
It certainly seems like Eru made new lands in place of Aman.