Which Tolkien Character Best Represents The Illustrious GOO?

[YayGollum]

What do you crazy people think? I think that you can figure out who I picked for.

[Froggum]

I'm with Yay!

[Dragon]

me too, Gollum seems most Outcast-ish

[Froggum]

Friends of Gollum, unite!

[Wolfshead]

I'd have ter say Gollum as well, he strikes me as very outcast-ish.

And then there's Melkor, I suppose, after all, wasn't he cast out into the Void?

[Dragon]

but there is a small difference between being cast out, and being an Outcast....(one's a noun)hehehehehe:D :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:

[YayGollum]

Who voted for the Grima dude? oh well. It looks like Gollum won. Who thinks we should start up a Gollum Fan Club over here? Lots of new Gollum Fans since TTT. Or we could just start up threads about any old LOTR Outcast. Doesn't really matter. It's just that Gollum won, and he's the only one I care about. :rolleyes:

[Froggum]

Gollum is totally worthy of a Fan Club and I don't know why there hasn' t been one before. Haven't I often said, "Friends of Gollum, unite!"

[YayGollum]

Well, actually, there has been one here before. It was the very first thread I made over here, but it got deleted when people spammed too much. oh well. We even had a Gollum Fan Club Poetry thread that might still be around. If you want to make it, I'd say, Yay! and, Go ahead!

[munchkin]

I vored for none other than, GOLLUM!!!!!!!!(Im proably too late to vote though....I think ill hide now....).

[YayGollum]

Yay Gollum! oh well. I have no idea how these evil polls work. Anyways, maybe I'll have to wait for ROTK for another Gollum Fan Club. I don't know.

[HobbitGirl]

I voted for Mim, caused the poor guy just got used by everyone and then killed. Plus, no one voted for him, so he's even more outcasty then Gollum!

[YayGollum]

Thank you! Mim is one of my favorites. oh well. Maybe I should've made LOTR and Sil. polls separately.

[The-Elf-Herself]

Gollum definitely. He rocks! Nasssty person put up Eol.

[Myrrien]

Which character best represents the guild of outcasts? Hmmm?? Does it need to be a bad guy? How about Finrod Felagund?

[Neffie]

Gollum :D

[YayGollum]

Nasssty person put up Eol? That was me! *sniff* oh well. Eol's cool. Why not?
Crazy Myrrien person! None of the dudes on the poll are bad guys. just misunderstood. :rolleyes: Why is the stinky, nasssty, and boring elf Finrod an Outcast?
Yay Gollum! :D

[munchkin]

I think Gollum is winning, but I'm not sure...:p

[Dragon]

gollum definantly won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oren]

Yay, Gollum wins my vote!

[YayGollum]

Yay me! I mean, Yay Gollum! oh well. I guess that's just a poll because I'm proud of remembering how to make polls. :rolleyes: Let me see here. What else can we use this for? I'll think of something.

[Wonko The Sane]

I voted for Old Man Willow.
I feel so sorry for him...he's rotten on the inside...and willow trees are so sad.
:(
It makes me sad.
Go outcasts!

[YayGollum]

Well, I mostly put him up there because I remember ranting about him one time. Too bad I can't put Feanor up there now. :rolleyes: oh well. Poor guy.

[Wonko The Sane]

Why can't you put Feanor up there?

And I liked Old Man Willow.

He was so lonely. I mean...Willows are probably lonely most of the time anyway...especially ones with feelings.
But willows, even ones on the same shore, don't grow closely together like birches or pines or something becuase they have such widely spreading branches.

Willows spend most of their lives within sight of others like them...but never actually in communion with those of their own kind.

Outcasts are like that. We sit on the outside looking in a lot...but rarely do we experience that common interaction.

[Mindy_O_Lluin]

A very lovely and melancholy introspection. Here on the forums, we can communicate, but are not within sight of each other. But it's kind of similar in an opposite kind of way. Thankfully, forums disguise our lack of social skills or social saavy, if any.

Old Man Willow, may even have a rotten heart as a reaction to being an outcast. That is easy to understand. I think the same thing about Gollum.

Anyway, I didn't vote yet.

[Morgoth]

Melkor is the best representative. He was outcast by his own species because he was superior to them. That's sad. No wonder he wanted revenge

[Wonko The Sane]

But I can't say that we're like Melkor.
First of all Melkor was kind of evil...

And second of all...I don't find myself superior to anyone.

[YayGollum]

Only Mods can edit polls as far as I know. Too bad. Yay for Old Man Willow! I wonder what his real name is. Poor Mel.

[Sador]

I'd vote for Radagast 'cause he is only used by Saruman as a dupe to deceive Gandalf and then he gets ignored for the rest of the story. No one expects him at Elrond's place or to do any thing in the war effort. What happens to him? Does he just crawl off to live in a cave somewhere?:confused: :confused:

[YayGollum]

He either went back to watching the Shire for Gandalf or he just went back to his place in northern Mirkwood. I never thought of him as an Outcast. just an average joe guy. He was sent with Gandalf and the other wizards to kill Sauron. While they actually did stuff, he just decided to have fun with animals in northern Mirkwood since both he and Sauron are immortal. Plenty of time for him to have fun up there and kill the guy later. :rolleyes: But sure, Radagast is superly cool and less talked about.

[Sador]

Well I spose you could say that he chose his own isolation, preferring the company of beasts and birds to people. He doesn't do magic, he doesn't do anything except some kind of ME DR Doolittle impersonation. Just how anyone could hope to destroy Sauron with a couple of sparrows and a donkey is beyond me.
He is just a crazy old hermit that no one takes seriously.

[YayGollum]

Yikes! Are you sure that you're a fan? :rolleyes: oh well. Not much is said about the guy, but I did see something about him being a master of shapes and changes of hue, so maybe his magical specialty has to do with shapeshifting and chameleon type stuffs? :confused: Anyways, I just said that he was just thinking that since he and Sauron are both immortal, he decided to put off killing the guy. oh well. I thought that Beorn took him seriously. Maybe not.

[Sador]

I'm so much of a fan that I think my puny nitpicking can pose no threat to the integrity of the books. And I've just always been curious about this Brown Wizard.
I actually like the way that no one is forced to fight for the white council. Every one has a choice even the animals. Radagast didn't want to take up arms, he sent his furry friends to spy out the land and put his feet up.
While wer'e at it, weren't there five Istari? Those other two must have been even worse!!!

[YayGollum]

Yeah, the blue dudes. I can never remember how to spell their names right. Something like Alatar and Pallando. I don't know. I heard that they went way into the east and got some cults started just for them. Nice gig! I wouldn't want to leave, either! :rolleyes:

[Sador]

Yeah whichever one of the Valar thought up the whole "the-istari-will-save-Middle Earth" caper could have chosen better candidates, I mean Olorin is the only one of the five who sticks to his purpose. I think its the pipe-weed's effect of focussing the mind. The others didn't smoke like chimneys so they turned aside from the true path(I know Saruman smoked, but he only picked it up late in the game copying Gandalf) of dark lord eradication.

[Sador]

OK what about Ted Sandyman? Given a ring and about 500 years and I reckon he'd make a pretty good Smeagol.
Lotho Sackville-Baggins was pretty much outcast before wormtongue ate him.

[Mindy_O_Lluin]

Another Hobbit outcast candidate might be Nob - the 'woolley-footed slowcoach' who got bossed around by Butterbur a lot.

[Sador]

Not to mention old Will Whitfoot subject to scornful laughter when the roof of the Town Hall caved in and he emerged covered in chalk dust looking like a "dumpling".

[Wonko The Sane]

I still think Old Man Willow was a good candidate for an outcast spokesmodel.

I mean...maybe all he wanted was to be loved.
Maybe that's all any of them wanted.

[Mindy_O_Lluin]

But in the end, Old Man Willow was kind of mean wasn't he? Do we really want him to represent us?

Now Gollum was just pathetic, but at least he served a final purpose for good.

[Sador]

I think Old Man Willow was just a sadly misunderstood carniverous plant. Kind of like a giant Venus fly trap.
It wasn't his fault that some unwary Hobbits stumbled along the wrong river path.
I blame Bombadil for not sign-posting the area properly. Too busy with all his jolly capering no doubt to care about innocent wayfarers.

[Sador]

Well I could suggest Sador himself. He was maimed in a wood-chopping accident. Had to hobble around doing odd jobs for Hurin's family, never got any respect(except from Turin- another Outcast). Not the happiest chap in Middle Earth.

[YayGollum]

Yikes! Lots of Outcast craziness! Out of the many new people suggested, I like Nob the best. Hardly ever talked about. Very average joe-like. just like those three trolls from The Hobbit. oh well. Poor Old Man Willow.

[Frodorocks]

Since Gollum was cast out by his own family and was a very crazy person, my vote went to him. Poor Gollum.:D

[Sador]

You could argue that the whole elven race in ME are outcasts after the kin slaying. That great boofhead Feanor started it all.

[YayGollum]

Well, maybe just the Noldor type of elves, but then they all got forgiven later. Sure, there probably was a little hostility between them and other elves, but not as bad as before they all got invited back to paradise. Anyways, I'm a fan of Feanor since someone told me I'm a lot like him. :( :rolleyes:

[Mindy_O_Lluin]

Well, I finally voted for Grima - cause I thought he didn't have enough votes. Besides, the last time I saw TTT, I felt sorry for him when he got rejected so harshly by Eowyn. (Your words are poison).

Plus, I kind of like him when he tags along behind Saruman in Orthanc. He seems so cluelessly puppy-dog pathetic. I think the contrast between Saruman's white robes and Grima's black Goth look was kind of artistic. Though it makes for not 'many colours' between them!

Also, in the books, it was sad that he was stuck as Saruman's whipping-boy. Talk about disfunctional relationships!

[YayGollum]

Thank you. Poor Grima! He's just another version of Gollum. I wonder what he was like before he ran into Saruman. oh well. Versions of Gollum ---> Grima, Frodo, Saruman, Theoden, Denethor, probably others. I had a list somewhere. :rolleyes:

[e.Blackstar]

Poor Smeagol! *gollum, gollum *

[Vixen Evenstar]

yeah...Gollum...no doubt..

[YayGollum]

Yay Gollum! I hope my little comment didn't make anyone pick him for no good reason! :D

[Vixen Evenstar]

hmmm....well...Gollum just seems so outcasty....

[Sador]

Did anyone mention Sauron? He was cast out from the whole of Middle Earth. Just because he had strange taste in jewellry.
Also the Dunlendings, chased off their land by the greedy tree-lopping Numenoreans.

[YayGollum]

No, I don't think that anyone ever mentioned Sauron. Too bad. I was just reading The Sil. and noticed this one part just before he started messing with the boring Numenoreans that said he went back to being evil. Nothing was said about the time he wasn't being evil. I'd like to know about that. oh well.

Anyways, humans in a fantasy world have always seemed boring to me, so I forget why these Dunlending people are so cool.

[Sador]

All I've ever been able to find out about Sauron between the destruction of Morgoth and the forging of the rings is that he was beautiful and called himself the lord of gifts(I think he was still evil tho)

[YayGollum]

Okay, I found what I read about Sauron. I still hate the guy for torturing poor Smeagol, though. He and Gandalf are just as evil.

Anyways, from that Akallabeth part ---> In this Age, as is elsewhere told, Sauron arose again in Middle-earth, and grew, and turned back to the evil in which he was nurtured by Morgoth, becoming mighty in his service.

See? I still hate him, but Poor guy! He turned back to evil! Why? What was he doing when he was a nice guy? Was he really just your average superly powerful nice guy? I hope not. I hate those characters. Too boring. :rolleyes:

[Sador]

Yeah its a bit hard to imagine him skipping through the fields doing good deeds and being nice to furry critters or whatever for a few hundred years.
I think I read that he hid in the dungeons of Thangorodrum(sp?) when it was destroyed and that he was scared of the power of the elves, but not for long.

[YayGollum]

Got it. That's probably what it is. He wasn't doing anything especially good, he just wasn't doing anything evil. But still, why'd he suddenly say ---> "Ah, what a nice morning! I think I'll go back to killing and torturing and trying to take over the world today!" :rolleyes: oh well. Yes, Sauron would make a good mascot. Even though I hate the guy.