Who should be nominated for Best Supporting Actor?

[Eledhwen]

PEOPLE KEEP ASKING "WHY NO ARAGORN OR FRODO?" - REMEMBER THIS POLL IS FOR BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR! ARAGORN AND FRODO ARE LEADING ROLES, NOT SUPPORTING ROLES - a different Oscar category. Thank you.

Not long until the Oscars (March 24th 5pm) Who really shone in The Two Towers as Best Supporting Actor? This poll will stay open until the day of the ceremony.

[Odo Proudfoot]

I vote for Sean Astin. I am not saying the others are bad, but Gandalf's role is a bit smaller, and remote, whereas Eowyn doesn't do more than casting glances (although she did great in the little sword-swinging scene).

But Sam's character is really growing without becoming too 'holy'. He knows what he needs to do and gets on with it. He doesn't trust Gollum, and doesn't hide the fact - and he is right, of course (spoiler for those that didn't get that from the TTT ending ;) ). Sean Astin plays these various sides very well in my opinion.

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[Legolam]

How about Viggo as Aragorn? I thought he did well in this film. Although I did think Miranda Otto did well as Eowyn too. Hmmm, difficult one. :)

[Evenstar7]

I'd have to go with a tie, between Sean Astin, and Viggo Mortensen. Can I vote twice? :D

Samwise's role in TTT was really a more involved verbal monologue that kind of let you into the heart of this story, their journey, and their struggle. You can truly start to understand moreso than from FOR Sam's role in Frodo's success on his mission. Basically you now know that without Sam, Frodo would not make it (if you didn't already realize that).

Aragorn however is the other side of Sam's coin. While Sam expresses the hope to us in the telling, we see Aragorn portray the physical side of the battle. The mental pain, the fight against hopeless odds, while clinging to a fragile thread of hope.

I believe both roles were vital to the success of the movie, and both actors were instrumental in portraying the "soul" of the story. I can't name another actor for either role who would have done such a tremendous job! :)

[BelDain]

I definitely voted for Serkis.
That's a real human in a green suit doing everything that you saw the CG character do!!

[FREEDOM!]

I voted for Sean Astin because he did an awesome job, and Smeagol would have been the person i chose but it wasn't too hard for him so....

[Wynston]

Since the movie shifts so much between stories, I really can't pin point any character that would fit. Not a bad thing, I think it was well done, and also unavoidable due to the nature of the story. But I don't think anyone was given enough screen time to really warrant a nomination.

[Evenstar7]

How can you list everyone else, except Viggo Mortensen!!:mad: :confused:

All of the main characters listed except Aragorn's. What gives?

[Mablung]

Aragorn is a main actor not a supporting actor if you notice Frodo isnt in there either.

[Isilme]

I really think that Andy Serkis (sp?) should be nominated, he showed the most dedication to his role.
Don't get me wrong all the other actors are great! but I think Andy should get it.

[*Lady Arwen*]

I voted other, I think Viggo Mortensen should get nominated.

[Nefmariel]

This is just what I think so no disrespect to anyone and sorry if I upset people but I just think Legolas.

[Eledhwen]

Legolas certainly livened the story up. In TTT he really showed what the difference was between Elves and Men.

Viggo Mortensen should get a nomination for Best Actor, not Best Supporting Actor. There are effectively two films going on here; Elijah Wood is the star of one, and Viggo Mortensen is the star of the other. They don't meet up again until tRotK.

[Lossengondiel]

Originally posted by Evenstar7
How can you list everyone else, except Viggo Mortensen!!:mad: :confused:

All of the main characters listed except Aragorn's. What gives?

Exactly, my vote goes to Viggo Mortensen for actor and Miranda Otto for actress.

[FREEDOM!]

Liv Tyler should get nominated for best supporting actress.

[Legolam]

I wanna change my vote! Andy Serkis for supporting actor (if it can go to a CGI figure?), Miranda Otto for supporting actress, Viggo for lead actor. How's about that?! :)

[Thorin]

Frankly, none of the actors have really deserved any acting awards (Maybe Ian McKellen in FoTR). Liv Tyler? Not by a long shot considering all the other movies out there with ten times better actresses with much more versatile roles.

I must make one exception to the actors in this trilogy and that is Andy Serkis. Gollum was a great character and Serkis captured the voice and character of Gollum tremendously. That is one hard character to play! He deserves the best supporting actor IMO.

[FREEDOM!]

I still think it's Sean Astin.

[Kiroshar]

Andy Serkis as Gollum/Sméagol is hands down the best performance in my opinion. Do not forget that the CGI was digiscoped onto his movements as he played the part.

If John Hurt can be nominated for the Elephant Man, Andy Serkis certainly should be nominated for The Two Towers. What is the CGI other than an elaborate costume.

I hate to say this, but I am not all that pleased with Sean Astin as Sam. He plays the part alright, I guess, but he still doesn't get much of an emotional kick from his voice after all of these years past his days with The Goonies. Sean also does not have great control of his expressions, so his lines often come off as wooden.

[Eledhwen]

Sam is a gardener - solid, steadfast, not given to over-excitement unless he accidentally crosses a new strain of petunia.

I found the English accents were less polished in TTT than in FotR. Did they send the elocution experts home, thinking the job was done?

[Aragorns_girl00]

Originally posted by Lossengondiel
Exactly, my vote goes to Viggo Mortensen for actor and Miranda Otto for actress.
you are so right. viggo is a hott actor (and a good one) and miranda is a good actress.

[Kelonus]

I say Sean Astin as Sam because while being Sam he supports Frodo. I would also say Viggo or Orlando, but Sean.

[TheJospeh]

Not to beat on Lord of the Rings but any nomination for supporting actor is going to have to compete with Daniel Day-Lewis in "Gangs of New York". It just shouldn't happen people! ;)

Sincerely,
The Joseph

[chrome_rocknave]

I don't think any of the actors had enough time on screen to actually act enough to deserve an oscar. I mean the acting was decent from everyone...but no one really stood out. Gandalf was great in FoTR but in this one his role was way too small to get an award. Basically, I think in this movie there were too many battle shots and not enough acting...

[Foe-Hammer]

This format doesn't lend itself to the type of acting that gets awards. We usually give oscars to performers who present a charater in a way that make us say to ourselves " I have felt that way but could never put it to words or actions unless I was actually feeling it". All these characters are so well know to us, that any improvisation on their part would be ridiculed as another departure from the real character as presented in the book and dismissed out of hand.

But, if any actor gets close to this, it is the gollum character. And look at the ridicule he gets from the purists.......

[Aragorns_girl00]

ACTOR- ARAGORN
ACTRESS-ARWEN
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR- SAM
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS- EOWYN

that's what i think.

[Lossengondiel]

Originally posted by Aragorns_girl00
you are so right. viggo is a hott actor (and a good one) and miranda is a good actress.

Exactly and I agree with you as well :) :) :)

[lilhobo]

Originally posted by Foe-Hammer
This format doesn't lend itself to the type of acting that gets awards.

what a freakin pee wee of a cop out :)

Originally posted by Foe-Hammer
We usually give oscars to performers who present a charater in a way that make us say to ourselves " I have felt that way but could never put it to words or actions unless I was actually feeling it".

errr, the book of the century is full of themes, TOO SUBTLE FOR SOME I GUESS

Originally posted by Foe-Hammer
All these characters are so well know to us, that any improvisation on their part would be ridiculed as another departure from the real character as presented in the book and dismissed out of hand.


THIS GUY IS A WANNABEE-FAD!


ps. that dying warg rifer did an icredible acting job :)

[Eledhwen]

Originally posted by chrome_rocknave
I don't think any of the actors had enough time on screen to actually act enough to deserve an oscar. Basically, I think in this movie there were too many battle shots and not enough acting... This was a THREE HOUR film! Frodo and Aragorn probably had as much time in each of their plot threads as most lead actors get in a standard 100 minuter. I know a lot of the battles were CG, but they were fronted by actors, and to act a decent battle scene does take talent.

[Mindy_O_Lluin]

On watching it the third time, I am very impressed with Sean Astin's performance, but I was MORE impressed with Bernard Hill. I only now noticed how almost every line he had was memorable and impressive and he said them all with great power. Hooray for coming out of that slim role in Titanic and getting something he could sink his teeth into!

[lilhobo]

yeah but his important lines were designed for the muster of rohan !!

[Eledhwen]

This matches another poll on this forum which asks who is the best newcomer in TTT. I wonder if they will re-define the rules or add another category so he can get an Oscar?

[Ascamaciliel]

Sean Astin all the way.

[Goldberry344]

Andy Serkis! he's amazing, he put so much time into a movie and he never enven showed his face. i dont think he'll get it, i think he should, but what can we say.

[Eledhwen]

If we regard Andy Serkis' CG 'skin' as makeup, then he should be considered for best supporting actor. If they'd been able to make a rubber outfit for him to wear that was convincing, he could be considered; so why can't he be considered when he wears a CG outfit? It was his moves and his voice.

[Gil-Galad]

In the first part that is Gandalf,but I don't think he deserves to be nominated again for best supporting act.This time I think Sean Astin should be nominated.

[Murgul Blade]

Sean austin showed extream talent

[Valdarmyr]

Okay, well I just gave Brad Dourif his first vote here for his performance as Grima. I voted for him because he put "spice" into the role, but it wasn't over the top. If the academy is okay with voting for someone who provided the basis for a CG character, then I don't doubt Andy Serkis will get nominated. I also have a feeling Orlando Bloom and Bernard Hill might have a chance.

I also have to agree that the film time of many of these performances may be too short to warrant an Oscar nomination, but hey, here's hoping!

I would like to have seen Karl Urban's Eomer get more screen time! Maybe he'll get more in ROTK!

[FREEDOM!]

I think sean astin should be.

[sharkeysmate]

IMO there is no contest here. Andy Serkis is a clear winner for his portrayal of Gollum. His vocalisation of Gollum and his body movement (which accounts for most of what Gollum actually does) combined with the CGI part (essentially Gollums expressions) made Gollum THE most outstanding character of TTT. He was the only character (Theoden grieving for the death of his son excepted) that genuinely moved me. I agree that the academy should view the CGI part as make-up, but I sincerely doubt that this will happen.

[Eledhwen]

The nominations are out. Only in Hollywood can this happen! How can a film be nominated for Best Picture when it has no actors nominated for any category?

It seems that the length of the film has counted against the actors. They may have been on screen for an hour or more, but because we effectively have two films in one here, they may have only been on screen for about 30% of the film.

So, there's only one thing for it. When this poll finishes on the day of the Oscars, we will declare The Tolkien Forum award for Best Supporting Actor.:cool:

[Eledhwen]

The Tolkien Forum Award for Best Supporting Actor (artist's impression).

[mirkwoodwarrior]

I think Andy Serkis should be.:)

[Ithrynluin]

I wish I could vote for more than one actor, e.g. Christopher Lee, IanMcKellen, Miranda Otto...

But I'll have to go with Brad Douriff, his performance as Grima Wormtongue was brilliant! *two very enthusiastic thumbs up* :)

[Eledhwen]

Douriff was brilliant, but again, his comparatively small screentime would exclude him from serious nomination, again exacerbated by the length of The Two Towers, which makes his appearance, percentage-wise, seem even less!

If the Oscars matched bums on seats, then most of the academy's choices wouldn't get a look in, but I suppose that's what they're there for.