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Talimon
12-23-2002, 08:32 AM
Folks probably know how I feel about the films (at least so far), so I won't waste time here. This post is just for technical errors in the film, not actual book/film comparisons. So please keep this on a purely technical level. Also, I don't think these errors detract from the film, and considering how massive this project must have been, it really isn't that big a deal. These are just little things that I personally notice.

-Bilbo's "moans". This is a clear example of where additional dialogue recording (ADR, I believe they call it) was implemented. There are two scenes where you can notice this: the first is when Bilbo hugs Gandalf. He makes a noise that would require him to open his mouth (something along the lines of "oh"), but his mouth is clearly shut the whole time. The second time he makes this noise is when he meets Frodo in Rivendell. Again his mouth is closed. On the subject of ADR, notice how Gandalf says, "Oh not at all" when Bilbo asks him "mind if I have some?"

-This one has really bothered me lately ;). At Amon Hen, Aragorn jumps from the top of the structure on top of an orc. Aragorn ends up with his back on the floor, and the orc impaled on his sword. In one of the next shots we see Legolas and Gimili enter the scene. Look closely at Aragorn on the floor. His sword, which should be sticking through the orcs back, is actually going through the orcs armpit. That is to say, whoever was directing that scene simply had Aragorn stick the sword between the orcs arm and body, and hoped the camera angle would fool people. I can't get over how cheap this technique is. Anyone else notice this?

- Really a nit-pick here... look at the papers on the floor after Gandalf pulls Sam in through the window. Thier location on the carpet changes.

Nóm
12-23-2002, 10:31 AM
On the subject of ADR, notice how Gandalf says, "Oh not at all" when Bilbo asks him "mind if I have some?"
What's wrong about this one?

Odo Proudfoot
12-23-2002, 10:53 AM
Remember the shaft of light in Moria, highlighting Balin's tomb?

That cave troll better be careful not to stray into that, or he would be turned into stone on the spot...

fG

Gandalf White
12-23-2002, 03:33 PM
Ok, I hate to do this, but.....

When Arwen has just crossed the ford with Frodo, and the Black Riders come up behind, watch closely. They draw their swords, and the picture switches to Arwen, back to the Riders, who now have their swords in different hands, again a switch back to Arwen, and now back to the Riders who have once again switched their swordhands. Lol.

Actually there are about 200 technical errors, go here! (http://www.movie-mistakes.com) to check them all out, but don't let them ruin your enjoyment of the movie, because it's still the best ever made!

Celebthôl
12-23-2002, 03:44 PM
haha i had a thread like this somewhere, i got loads of um like:

1) at Amon Hen where Aragorn is fighting that Orc which kills Boromir he gets thrown against a tree and drops his sworrd, then the Orc throws his shield at Aragorns neck and he drops his sword again!
2) Frodos sword sting stops glowing in Moria although there are loads of Orcs about him!
3) Gandalf's sword Glamdring never lights up ever!
4) Legolas' arrow feathers keeps changing colour
5) When Gandalf rolls into town and that old couple are watching him with scowls on there faces, she walks up and crosses her arms twice and different intervals!
6) Pippin i think it was goes to get a drink in the prancing pony and hes at the bar yet when frodo says to sam sumthing like "he'll be here" (refuring to Gandalfs absence) Pippin is in his seat again!
7) Gandalfs scalf changes sides on the wagon inexplicably when we first see him!

haha you all gonna look through the film for all these mistakes now arent ya :p

(i have loads more, i cant be bothered to type um all out right now)

Thôl

Rúmil
12-23-2002, 03:46 PM
That cave troll better be careful not to stray into that, or he would be turned into stone on the spot... Hee, hee, I though of that too...


When Arwen has just crossed the ford with Frodo, and the Black Riders come up behind, watch closely. They draw their swords, and the picture switches to Arwen, back to the Riders, who now have their swords in different hands, again a switch back to Arwen, and now back to the Riders who have once again switched their swordhands I wouldn't know, I always fast-forward that bit now :rolleyes:

I also noticed the sword-in-armpit thing, but hey, it only lasts a split second — you're not supposed to watch the thing frame-by-frame :D

Isenho
12-23-2002, 11:57 PM
lol great ones you guys

here's an AWSOME site that has tons of mistakes for FotR that they found

HERE! (http://movie-mistakes.com/film.php?filmid=1778)

aragil
12-24-2002, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by faded_Glory
Remember the shaft of light in Moria, highlighting Balin's tomb?

That cave troll better be careful not to stray into that, or he would be turned into stone on the spot...

fG (sung to the Mr. Ed theme) Unless of course the race of that troll is the famous Olog-hai: from Appendix F, The Languages and Peoples of the Third Age
But at the end of the Third Age a troll-race not before seen appeared in southern Mirkwood and in the mountain borders of Mordor. Olog-hai they were called in the Black Speech. That Sauron bred them none doubted, though from what stock was not known. Some held that they were not Trolls but giant Orcs; but the Olog-hai were in fashion of body and mind quite unlike even the largest of Orc-kind, whom they far surpassed in size and power. Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race, strong, agile, fierce and cunning, but harder than stone. Unlike the older race of the Twilight they could endure the Sun, so long as the will of Sauron held sway over them. They spoke little, and the only tongue that they knew was the Black Speech of Barad-dûr.

Rúmil
12-24-2002, 01:02 PM
Ah, yes, but Gandalf explicitly says "a cave-troll; this being one of the races of the Twilight.

Celebthôl
12-24-2002, 01:06 PM
actually it was Boromir who said it, but i wont judge you it being xmas and all!!! :D

Thôl

Odo Proudfoot
12-24-2002, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by faded_Glory
Remember the shaft of light in Moria, highlighting Balin's tomb?

That cave troll better be careful not to stray into that, or he would be turned into stone on the spot...

fG

A bit sad to quote myself ( :p ), but I watched the cave troll scene again, and he repeatedly stands in the light beam. Tsk tsk...

fG

Rúmil
12-24-2002, 09:48 PM
With a quick movement Gandalf stepped before the narrow opening of the door and thrust forward his staff: There was a dazzling flash that lit the chamber and the passage outside. For an instant the wizard looked out. Arrows whined and whistled down the corridor as he sprang back.
'There are Orcs, very many of them,' he said. `And some are large and evil: black Uruks of Mordor. For the moment they are hanging back, but there is something else there. A great cave-troll, I think, or more than one. There is no hope of escape that way.'


I was talking about the book. Of course in the book you only see his foot and arm :rolleyes:

aragil
12-25-2002, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by Rúmil
Ah, yes, but Gandalf explicitly says "a cave-troll; this being one of the races of the Twilight. We don't know whether a Cave-troll is one of the races of twilight or not. The Olog-hai definitely encompass the race of the Hill Trolls of the Morannonn (from The Black Gate Opens). It has been debated whether or not the Olog-hai might also include the Mountain Trolls wielding Grond at the Battle of the Pelannor Field, The Cave Troll of the Fellowship, or (my favorite) the Far Haradrim, which are describes as being "like half-trolls" and later just "half-trolls". If you're interested please see Uruks vs Uruk-hai (http://www.thetolkienforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2146), 'round about page 15-25.

Celebthôl
12-25-2002, 11:22 AM
My appologies Rúmil i thought you were refuring to the film as we were talking bout faults with the film oh well, i appologise

Thôl

Rúmil
12-25-2002, 02:37 PM
Nothing to apologise about Celebthôl!

aragil, see how PJ can suddenly reopen a long, long-closed debate? I'm sure he did it on purpose. :)

aragil
12-25-2002, 11:20 PM
Of course- one of the excellent aspects of the films is that the inspire so much quality discussion. U vs U-h itself grew out of an earlier thread discussing the merits of PJ's scene with Orcs coming out of pods.

Gandalf White
12-26-2002, 05:39 AM
here's an AWSOME site that has tons of mistakes for FotR that they found
Stealing my site?!?!?!?!?! :mad: ;)


Gandalf's sword Glamdring never lights up ever!
So?

Celebthôl
12-26-2002, 01:44 PM
well its supposed to, all through the hobbit if u ever read it it gives off a warning light when Orcs/Goblins are close!!!

TheDarkTyrant
12-26-2002, 08:22 PM
My question is: How many times must one see a movie before finding every technical / editing / continuity goof in said movie?

I mean, I'm not ashamed to admit, I have seen the original Star Wars series so many times that I've lost count. I've spotted all of the T/E/C goofs, but that was over a period of 20 + years. Fellowship of the Ring has only been out for a year, and only like 5 months on video and DVD. Are there actually people who watch movies repeatedly for no other reason than to pick it apart? And if so, are they getting payed? Cause if they are, sign my @$$ up!