bilbo and frodo's reactions

[Goldberry1234]

Okay I'm new to this site but don't see it covered anywhere, so here's my question:

How come when Frodo puts on the ring in the movie, he's transported to this alternate, windy/smeary world, where he can see the Nazgul, etc...but when Bilbo puts on the ring, nothing happens except he disappears?

[Gandalf White]

I'm rather confused also. All I can think of is Sauron didn't know that his ring still existed when Bilbo used it, but whenever Frodo used it he was being chased, poor guy.;)

I didn't explain that very well.

When Bilbo put it on, Sauron was still unaware of it's existence. However, once Frodo receives it, Sauron finds out from Gollum that it still exists, now he is searching for it, so Frodo is not safe putting it on.



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[FREEDOM!]

That is confussing?????

[Gandalf White]

Sorry, I guess I was a little tired during that last post. It all makes sense to me now! :)

[Talimon]

Well, for one we never see it from Bilbos point of view. To us he has dissappeared, but it is anyones guess what it looks like from his eyes. From Sams point of view I'm sure Frodo just dissappears when he puts it on, much like Bilbo did.

The other explanation is that Frodo only puts it on when the Nazgul are already looking for him, and that causes that whole "uneasy" effect. I personally love the way they've done it, because it makes every second with the ring on seem like it is going on forever.

[Valdarmyr]

This is a shot in the dark--not to be confused with a journey in the dark--but maybe Bilbo suffers from Alzheimer's disease! Though the Ring has made him look as young as Ian Holm, he is, of course, old. He could see the Eye but not remember later that he saw it! ;)

More likely, as it says in the movie, the Ring lay quiet while Bilbo had it, but with evil growing in Mordor, the Ring awoke and heard its master's call. As Gandalf says, "(Sauron) is seeking it. Seeking it, all his thought is bent on it. The ring yearns above all else to return to the hand of its master."

I agree that Frodo's reaction truly began with the torture of Gollum, and how, with the newfound knowledge gained through that, Sauron and the Nazgul have now narrowed down the scope of Middle Earth in which to search for the Ring of Power.

Tying the beginning point of Frodo's reaction to about the time of Gollum's torture reminds me of what Frodo says in TTT (at least in the movie--I'm still reading the books for the first time)--that he feels like he and Gollum are connected in some way.