Rock and Balrog

[Anamatar IV]

In Moria we distinctively hear a rock or some other heavy barrier being pushed out of the way by the Balrog. If he so easily pushed it out of the way then what was the point of having it there to keep the Balrog in? And if we assume it was rather to keep the Orcs out...with their cave trolls and engines dont you think the Orcs would have been able to shove it out of the way?

:confused:

Was the rock to keep the balrog in? Pretty ineffective. Or Orcs out? They'd eventually get it....so what was the point of that rock?

[Nóm]

I'm not sure where you're talking about. It couldn't be the balrog breaking through the shutting spell that Gandalf put on that door could it? The door being opened may sound that way.

[Anamatar IV]

I am talking about in Moria and the Fellowship is surrounded by orcs and all of a sudden there is a low growls and the orcs scatter...then you hear something being pushed out of the way...I dont think Gandalf used the shutting spell in the movie :confused:

[Celebthôl]

i think thats just a wall in the way, and the Balrog can hear all the commosion and wants in on it! Not really anything to keep him subdude (sp)

Thôl

[Odo Proudfoot]

Something else, I've always thought that the reasons the orcs run away is that the Balrog eats them for breakfast. What do you think?

fG

[Celebthôl]

i'd agree, also the Balrog is like an animal, so and there is absolutly no way that they could controll him so its like a lion on the prowel so they cant really fight it off if it decides to attack them!

Thôl

[Leto]

That's just the sound the Balrog makes, it's not pushing anything or breaking anything. (if you're talking about the scene where the orcs all run away, and we first hear it) Since the movie makers interpreted it as literally being made of sort of lava, 'shadow and flame', the sound guys used stones to make the sound effects for it. They dragged cinderblocks across wood planks to make that sort of grating sound, and then edited it and added that sort of growling.
In the movie there is no place for Gandalf to put a shutting spell...and the Balrog comes up from a different passage than the one the fellowship did. they came into the great hall at the far end, and then took a detour into the tomb room to the right, which had no other exit. The balrog was coming up somewhere from the left (that's where the light was). In the book, the tomb room was along their path, not a side trip. There were two doors...one from which they had come, and another on the other side of the room. After taking care of the first wave of orcs, they ran out the other door, and gandalf put the spell on it, etc.

[Wulf of Dunland]

Originally posted by Anamatar IV
I am talking about in Moria and the Fellowship is surrounded by orcs and all of a sudden there is a low growls and the orcs scatter...then you hear something being pushed out of the way...I dont think Gandalf used the shutting spell in the movie :confused:

I think that pushing sound is also a growl. (which could be an elephant imo...)

[Isenho]

what Leto said!

that was a growl, when i read the topic, i was like "WHAT?!"

[Wulf of Dunland]

Sounds a bit like a kind of music right?
Rock 'n' Balrog!

[Kiroshar]

Originally posted by Wulf of Dunland
Sounds a bit like a kind of music right?
Rock 'n' Balrog!

LOL!

When I first read this thread, I thought it said "Rock The Balrog"!

I was sure someone had put words to the music of "Rock The Casbah" by the Clash.


... the Dwarven halls began to wa-a-a-a-ail !!!

Of Shadows and Flames Yea !

Rock The Balrog; Rock the Balrog !

[FoolOfATook]

When I first read this thread, I thought it said "Rock The Balrog"!

I was just worried that the pro wrestler had been cast as Durin's Bane in a prequel...