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Anamatar IV
01-26-2003, 04:36 AM
I thought it would be cool to have a game where one person describes an event IN HIS OR HER OWN WORDS and someone tries to think of what that event is. Then that person gets to describe a new one.

I'll start with an easy one since I am WAY too tired to think of a hard one:

Dark and dank it was in there. Two contestants in this game of wits there was. Childish lore of old was passed back and forth. In the end a winner there was by luck or cheat, and the loser broke his promise.

Hirila
01-26-2003, 12:59 PM
That's the riddle-contest between Bilbo and Gollum!


Another event: The three big peoples plus a less-known one came together to talk about how the world could be saved.

Anamatar IV
01-26-2003, 05:56 PM
The council of Elrond?

If so:

Lands were sunk, yet the people spared. A king's warrior broke his tower and the king thrown in bonds. By one man never returned to his land did all this happen.

Lhunithiliel
01-27-2003, 07:12 AM
The War of Wrath.

******
A begger, a stranger,
sometimes severe, sometimes - so tender.

In rags, and unknown,
he wanders the world.

What is he searching? ....

A white tree,
a white tower,
a white lady,
and white days for this world.
*****

Well, the rhymes were not very successful, but it is still so early in the morning ;)
******

Anamatar, this is such a good idea!!!!!!

gate7ole
01-27-2003, 10:03 PM
Aragorn
----------------------------

It couldn't be besieged
It couldn't be attacked
Because it couldn't be seen

Yet it's doom was prophecied
But not by the deeds of the enemy
Or by the lack of its courage

But it eventually fell and the reasons could be found only inside.

Anamatar IV
01-27-2003, 10:04 PM
hmm the witch king perhaps?:confused:

Hirila
01-27-2003, 10:11 PM
The kingdom of Gondor?

gate7ole
01-28-2003, 01:16 AM
I got you. No it's not Gondor or the Witch-King.
Actually Anamatar, that was a great guess, since the Witch King cannot be seen and was prophecied to die, but ... it's not him. The reasons he fell could not be found "inside"

Lhunithiliel
01-28-2003, 05:56 AM
Could it be Numenor?:confused: :confused: :eek:

gate7ole
01-28-2003, 01:33 PM
No.
I'll give some other hints:

"Its beginning was in dreams
It was created to remind the old
And only once the Edain stepped through its gates"

Anamatar IV
01-30-2003, 10:47 PM
I am guessing the halls of Mandos. But if this is wrong I can say you have thouroughly stumped us.;)

FoolOfATook
01-30-2003, 10:53 PM
Gondolin.

gate7ole
01-31-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by FoolOfATook
Gondolin.
Finally, we have a winner!

FoolOfATook
01-31-2003, 05:20 AM
Give me a little time to think of a decent Middle-earth riddle. I'll have one up by tommorow. Gate7ole- great question. It was the Edain reference that got me on the right track.

Lhunithiliel
02-01-2003, 06:37 AM
Since Master Took has not come up with a riddle, I'll do it.:eek:

It flies - but is not a bird.
It shines - but is not a star.
It fights - but is not a warrior.
It enspires - but is not a poem.

gate7ole
02-01-2003, 04:45 PM
Is it Eärendil in Vingelot?

Anamatar IV
02-01-2003, 04:49 PM
But wasn't Earendil a star in the later ages? Unless the answer is Earendil in the first age....

Lhunithiliel
02-01-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Anamatar IV
But wasn't Earendil a star in the later ages? Unless the answer is Earendil in the first age....
I can't provide you with the right quite now, but Vingelot was seen as a star, not that he turned to one...

Lhunithiliel
02-02-2003, 11:12 PM
a heart of fire
a hand of fire
a spirit of fire
lives in a fire ????

Anamatar IV
02-02-2003, 11:17 PM
Well that is obviously a balrog....right?

Lhunithiliel
02-02-2003, 11:24 PM
I knew it was easy, but this game is such a fun! :D
What's your riddle then?

Anamatar IV
02-02-2003, 11:30 PM
Seldom do
The sun and moon
Shine in unison
But
When they do
The cowards of light
Are afraid
But the sun and moon
Shining in unison
Can and was
Broken
and Can and was
Remade
Only to reunite
That which has fallen
Into decay
And nothingness

Lhunithiliel
02-02-2003, 11:43 PM
The trees in Valinor and their light captured into the Silmarils?

Anamatar IV
02-03-2003, 09:26 PM
hm close but not quite...tell me if this is too vague....I wasn't sure.:)

gate7ole
02-04-2003, 12:45 AM
Is it the Last Battle?

Anamatar IV
02-04-2003, 12:52 AM
hmmm no.

Sun and moon....

THE COWARDS OF LIGHT feared

Can and was
Broken
and Can and was
Remade

Elennainie
02-04-2003, 04:53 AM
Is it just light itself?

Beleg
02-04-2003, 06:20 PM
Marrige between elves and man?

Anamatar IV
02-04-2003, 09:28 PM
no....neither.

Is this too vague or just hard?

Lhunithiliel
02-04-2003, 09:43 PM
VAGUE! VAGUE!
GIVE US A HINT! :p

Anamatar IV
02-04-2003, 09:47 PM
hmm okay:

what were the "cowards of light" in easier terms?

You really need to know a lot of a section (that if you knew would give it away:p) of the sil to get this....

Lhunithiliel
02-04-2003, 09:53 PM
"cowards of light" - I can think of Orcs....
But you say to take the Simarillion at large...???????
It's getting even more confusing....:o

Anamatar IV
02-04-2003, 09:57 PM
hmm well orcs is right.

there is one section in the silmarillion that will give you the answer. But I thought I was giving something away with "can and was BROKEN can and was REMADE"

Lhunithiliel
02-04-2003, 09:59 PM
Do you mean about Orcs being the mockery of Elves?

gate7ole
02-05-2003, 12:55 AM
Maybe it is just the first rise of Sun and Moon when they were together on the sky.

Anamatar IV
02-05-2003, 02:05 AM
neither. Lhun was right about cowards of light being orcs....Orcs being afraid of something that was broken and was remade that shines with the sun and moon....ack! I'm giving it away!

Elennainie
02-05-2003, 04:36 AM
Is it the phial of Galadriel, because it contains the light of the star of Earendil who has a silmaril on his brow, which contains the light of the two trees?

Lhunithiliel
02-05-2003, 06:47 AM
No, could this be Anduril?
Broken and reforged?
The Flame of the West?

gate7ole
02-05-2003, 01:49 PM
Yes, Anduril is correct. Lhun was quicker than me though.

And Anamatar that was way difficult. We couldn't find it only with the first riddle.

Lhunithiliel
02-05-2003, 03:08 PM
Go, Gate!
I stole a turn from you once.
Now I'm giving way to you! :0

gate7ole
02-05-2003, 06:00 PM
A great task was appointed
An evil lord was confronted
Yet the victory was gained

So the King’s heart was softened
And those who live and not,
Have left this world long ago.

Beleg
02-05-2003, 06:08 PM
Is it either Thingol or Beren and Luthien?

Lhunithiliel
02-05-2003, 06:09 PM
Could it be the War of Wrath and the departure of Elves and men to teh West?

gate7ole
02-05-2003, 09:45 PM
Beleg is correct, it is Beren and Luthien

Lhunithiliel
02-06-2003, 07:22 AM
:mad:
But mine is applicable too!

gate7ole
02-06-2003, 02:37 PM
Well, Lhun, your answer could be correct, but the verse “those who live and not” I meant those who on the same time were alive and dead (meaning of course the resurrected Beren and Lúthien).

Lhunithiliel
02-08-2003, 07:47 AM
A path to oblivion ...
A path to eternity ...

Yet , it was

The path of glory
And the one only Kings could be taken along.

gate7ole
02-08-2003, 03:26 PM
Mmm, I have two ideas. My first idea is that it refers to the path to Halfirien.

Beleg
02-08-2003, 06:23 PM
i think gate's second would be the hallowed mountain top of Melentrama. But that's my guess.

Lhunithiliel
02-08-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by gate7ole
Mmm, I have two ideas. My first idea is that it refers to the path to Halfirien.

Originally posted by Beleg:
i think gate's second would be the hallowed mountain top of Melentrama. But that's my guess.
Got ya!!! :D

NO!

Anamatar IV
02-08-2003, 08:08 PM
The paths of the dead?

Lhunithiliel
02-08-2003, 09:39 PM
"...ONLY KINGS could be taken along" !
Think!

Anamatar IV
02-08-2003, 09:41 PM
Now I am thinking that forest place (I can't believe I'm forgetting the name:() where Cirion and Eorl went to take their oaths. but that wouldn't make sense since after the line of kings was broken only the STEWARDS were permitted there.

Lhunithiliel
02-08-2003, 09:45 PM
No.
Mind the grammar voice! It's passive!
;) :D

gate7ole
02-08-2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Anamatar IV
Now I am thinking that forest place (I can't believe I'm forgetting the name:() where Cirion and Eorl went to take their oaths. but that wouldn't make sense since after the line of kings was broken only the STEWARDS were permitted there.
Well this was what I though too. Halifirien. And it was wrong.

Anamatar IV
02-08-2003, 10:07 PM
I remembered the name, Lhun;)

Silent Street that led to the king's tombs.
********

The elected failed
the quest
and the oppressed
succeeded for all in the last.

The slinking got
what it ever wanted
the tall got what had been his
to claim

The eagles played
a dual role
and the mountain consumed
more than needed

Lhunithiliel
02-08-2003, 10:11 PM
You didn't even leave me the chance of saying "Yes"! :D
Yes - Rath Dinen at Minas Tirith was the answer to my riddle.

Now yours here.... :confused: :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:

gate7ole
02-08-2003, 10:31 PM
This refers to the War of the Ring, or if you prefer particularly to the Fellowship of the Ring. Right?

Anamatar IV
02-08-2003, 10:33 PM
hmm no...but the war of the ring is the general area

gate7ole
02-09-2003, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Anamatar IV
The elected failed
the quest
and the oppressed
succeeded for all in the last.

The slinking got
what it ever wanted
the tall got what had been his
to claim

The eagles played
a dual role
and the mountain consumed
more than needed

"and the mountain consumed
more than needed"-> Orodruin, consuming the Ring

"The elected failed
the quest"-> The FOTR that was broken

"The eagles played
a dual role"-> Gandalf + saving the two hobbits from Orodruin

Yet, I can't link them to any general "event", but just the destruction of the One.

Anamatar IV
02-09-2003, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by gate7ole
but just the destruction of the One.

Correct;)

The elected failed
the quest


as in Frodo being elected....I just realized this was a big mistake:o what I mean is the ring bearer failed the quest

the oppressed
succeeded for all in the last

Gollum and saving the world

The slinking got
what it ever wanted

again, Gollum getting the ring

the tall got what had been his
to claim

as in Aragorn (heir of Elendil the tall) claiming the throne of Gondor after the fall of Sauron.

The eagles played
a dual role

The eagles not only attacked the nazgul in the air but also saved frodo and Sam.

and the mountain consumed
more than needed

Orodruin also consumed Gollum;)

You're up, Gate

gate7ole
02-09-2003, 02:09 AM
Few they were, yet they did not lose their courage,
They fought with all their strength the Dark Lord,
But the vision of the dead past betrayed them
And from the only one saved, great deeds have followed.

Lhunithiliel
02-09-2003, 07:02 AM
The Rangers form the North = the Dunadain?

Beleg
02-09-2003, 10:38 AM
It can either be Beren, Tuor or Dunedain.

Beren?

gate7ole
02-09-2003, 03:46 PM
I’m asking for something more specific than just the Rangers or Beren. Remember, it’s supposed to be an event game. The riddle refers to an event (which may have short or long duration).
And the Rangers are wrong.

Lhunithiliel
02-10-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by gate7ole
Few they were, yet they did not lose their courage,
They fought with all their strength the Dark Lord,
But the vision of the dead past betrayed them
And from the only one saved, great deeds have followed.
Please, gate, a clue?????
At least a little one :( ;) :o

gate7ole
02-10-2003, 02:14 PM
The Unhappy betrayed them for the sake of a dead
and from the twelve, only one was saved

Beleg
02-10-2003, 03:26 PM
hint made it easy. The company of Barahir on the highlands of Dorthonian. the killing of the company due to the revealations of One man.

gate7ole
02-10-2003, 05:40 PM
Right, your turn

Beleg
02-11-2003, 05:46 AM
The death of King,
due to Silmaril lust.
the king of Elves,
In the west the first.

Slain was he,
by so-called friends,
and so robbed was she,
from her Middle Earth lover.

Hint. Event, Character, Character.

gate7ole
02-11-2003, 09:26 PM
This is probably Thingol and his slaying by the Dwarves and Melian's return to Valinor.

If I'm right, I let anyone else who wants to write a riddle. I can't think of one right now

Beleg
02-12-2003, 07:54 AM
Correct Gate and so Anyone can ask the next Riddle. However i guess since its an Event riddle game, the riddle should involve an event.

gate7ole
02-12-2003, 10:06 PM
OK, since none posted a riddle, I will

Unsummoned and unlooked came the valiant king
And his ten thousand long swords brought hope
For the night was passing and the day had come
That the brethren would fight together the Dark.

Elennainie
02-12-2003, 11:13 PM
Huor and Hurin?

Elennainie
02-12-2003, 11:15 PM
In the Battle of Unnumbered Tears? And the king unlooked for is Turgon from the hidden Gondolin?

gate7ole
02-13-2003, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by Elennainie
In the Battle of Unnumbered Tears? And the king unlooked for is Turgon from the hidden Gondolin?

Wonderful dear Aurora!
Just that I meant only Turgon and not the Hadorians too.

Your turn!

Elennainie
02-13-2003, 03:50 AM
Oh goody, finally I got one right! I know it's supposed to be an event riddle, but the answer to this one is not an event.

Fingers under ground
Doesn't make a sound
Not sick but a cure is needed
Burning fire makes it sweetest.

Beleg
02-13-2003, 10:28 AM
I can only guess it as Gollum and his hunger for the Ring.

Elennainie
02-13-2003, 08:59 PM
Nope, sorry. Keep guessing! ;) (Getting a disturbing image of Gollum burning in fire....)

Lhunithiliel
02-14-2003, 08:02 AM
Elen, could it be the weed?
The smoking "pleasure" for all the Hobbits and not only!
I mean, it is a plant and put in a pipe and lit - it gives pleasure...

Perhaps a stupid thought .... :o , but was all I could think about!

Elennainie
02-14-2003, 07:13 PM
Yes, Lhun, you got it!!!! It's pipeweed! :D

fingers under ground - the roots when it's a plant growing
not sick but a cure is needed - you have to cure the leaves before you can smoke them, etc.

This game is such fun!

gate7ole
02-14-2003, 07:23 PM
This is the hardest riddle of all!
I didn't have a clue. And frankly I would never find it. Well done Lhun!

Lhunithiliel
02-14-2003, 09:12 PM
Thank yopu! Thank you! :D

Now, I guess, it's my turn.

....mmmmm...let me think a bit! :D

Lhunithiliel
02-15-2003, 08:03 AM
this one is going to be easy.

We went along merrily singing
and there we sat for a rest.
And all of a sudden I was alone!
My friends - gone
And I could sing merrily no more.

gate7ole
02-15-2003, 09:26 PM
We're talking about hobbits definitely here.
So, my guess is the event with Old-Man Willow.

Lhunithiliel
02-16-2003, 07:10 AM
As I said - EEEEEEEASY!

Yes, gate, now go on :D

gate7ole
02-16-2003, 09:54 PM
New Riddle

The last and desperate assault
Rebalanced the battle of battles
And the wings of terror
Filled with dismay the besieger

But one of them stood alone
And the duel was inevitable
Whose outcome filled the air
And shook the root of Ambar

Lhunithiliel
02-17-2003, 07:24 AM
Having done quite some research on battles, I would call the "battle of battles" the War of Wrath.
So, this might be the event.:confused:
But then.....what duel?
Unless you meant not one-to-one duel ....?

Beleg
02-17-2003, 10:01 AM
That the battle of the Host of Valar and Morgoth. The last assualt is when Melkor cut lose the Dragons and they for a while stemmed the flow of the Allie;s but Earendil came with Brids of Garden of Valinor and Slew Ancalagon the black. I only hope i am correct.

gate7ole
02-17-2003, 12:40 PM
Lhun, nice avatar!

It is Ancalagon and Earendil.
Correct beleg.

Lhunithiliel
02-17-2003, 09:37 PM
Gate, :) it's my RP-dedicated avatar!
I am glad you like it! :D

Just let me know if you wish me to chose sth.special for your part in the RP :D

Beleg, GOOD JOB...
And please, don't make the next riddle too hard!

Ecthelion
02-20-2003, 12:42 AM
Since Beleg hasn't posted a new riddle does someone else want to go?

Lhunithiliel
02-20-2003, 08:00 AM
The breath of Death
that them there met
discouraged most valiant hearts.

But though fear they felt,
no tear they shed
but followed the Flame on their paths.
********

Oh! Why do I give you so EASY tasks?! :D

Beleg
02-20-2003, 11:04 AM
Humm The Ring Wraiths? Lhun this is not easy!!! who said it is easy?

Ecthelion
02-20-2003, 03:13 PM
Hm....... Is it Frodo and Sam going to Mount Doom? Becuase they have to hide from the wraiths who discourage hearts and face Shelob who I think would discourage hearts as well, but F&S kept going.

Anamatar IV
02-20-2003, 05:47 PM
I got it. It's the Grey Company and the Paths of the Dead, right?

Lhunithiliel
02-20-2003, 06:19 PM
Didn't I say?!
EEEEEEEEASY! :D

Your turn!

Anamatar IV
02-20-2003, 06:28 PM
'Round the corner came a horse
No halfling sized pony
A rider crouched sat upon it
Cloaked in black
Only his boots and high stirrups were shown

The ones who it seeked
Had hidden
In hope of
Surprising their friend
Who was late on his way

Lhunithiliel
02-20-2003, 06:34 PM
a Black Rider coming to the Shire to look for ....
Well they came looking for Bilbo, right?
They didn't know that he was no longer the Ringbearer...

Right, Mr.S.Journeyman? ;) Congratulations!

Anamatar IV
02-20-2003, 06:56 PM
Right about the Black Rider....but which encounter with the Hobbits was it?:D

Hirila
02-20-2003, 08:32 PM
It was the Black Rider searching for the Ring. Frodo and Sam hid because they wanted to surprise Gandalf. They had waited for him for a long time. Unfortunately he was delayed ;)


Here is my event:


Endless runs the stream
Where in the depths she disappeared
To save her kin.
And endless sorrow began.

Lhunithiliel
02-20-2003, 09:01 PM
It reminds me of that river where Nienor/Niniel trew herself... but I might be wrong:confused:

gate7ole
02-20-2003, 09:09 PM
Is this Niniel/Nienor commiting suicide?

edit: Lhun beat me in this:(

Hirila
02-21-2003, 12:49 AM
And it is true! Congratulations.

Lhunithiliel
02-21-2003, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by gate7ole
Is this Niniel/Nienor commiting suicide?

edit: Lhun beat me in this:(
That's the way it is, Gate! ;)

It came like a hurricane,
like a thunder
and it filled the air with pain.
And we were beaten to the ground.
For Death we perceived - the Death of our souls!

Then one let a beam of light .
Up it flew straight in the night.
And Death withdrew,
And we were up,
And the breath of Life we breathed again.
******

This might be a bit difficult , so I'll give a clue:
it is an event and a few characters from the LOTR.

Anamatar IV
02-21-2003, 04:53 PM
This is a little far out there for a guess but it seems to me it is Faramir and Eowyn standing in Minas Tirith together. I dunno, just gives me that feel I guess.:)

Lhunithiliel
02-21-2003, 10:34 PM
The event is before that Faramir-Eowin scene.

Beleg
02-22-2003, 09:49 AM
Death of Witch King And the coming of the Rohirrim and the Dunedain?

Lhunithiliel
02-22-2003, 02:18 PM
No!

Ecthelion
02-22-2003, 05:25 PM
Is is when Theoden and Snowmane are slain by the Witch-King then Eoywn fights and defeats the Witch-King?

Lhunithiliel
02-22-2003, 07:55 PM
Much, much before this :p

Anamatar IV
02-22-2003, 07:58 PM
Legolas shooting the winged nazgul in FotR maybe?

Lhunithiliel
02-22-2003, 08:00 PM
FINALLY!
Y E S !!! :D :D :D

Anamatar IV
02-24-2003, 01:38 AM
When weapons fail
And there is no fire
to fight the fire with
you must use your head
And your surroundings
to win

;)

Anamatar IV
02-24-2003, 09:32 PM
Just a quick thing: this event I know happened but I am not so sure about the details as I have not read it in a book yet (hint hint;)). I put in the riddle most stuff I picked up in this guild.

Anamatar IV
03-01-2003, 12:31 AM
okay no one has answered in days. Like I said, I do not know if these details are correct: I picked them up from this guild. So tell me if this WAS correct or not: Ecthelion slaying Gothmog.

Lhunithiliel
03-01-2003, 10:10 AM
Ha! I would have never guessed!

Now, whose turn is it?
......

Ah! Well...

It's not the turn that's important, right?

*******
When was that magical time
When the Burning Light
Met a Silver Star divine?

And it was day and night
Hand in hand together
And the world felt right
And life seemed forever....

******

Anamatar IV
03-01-2003, 05:30 PM
The mingling of the light of the two trees in the Bliss of Valinor?

Lhunithiliel
03-01-2003, 08:21 PM
I know it looks very much like it, but this time I wanted something NOT too obvious!
So, NO!

GUESS! :p :D

Hirila
03-03-2003, 07:11 PM
Is it Aragorn meeting Arwen? His burning love meeting the Evening Star?
Just a guess. I am not convinced myself.

Lhunithiliel
03-03-2003, 07:23 PM
Not exactly the event but it has to do with these two. ;)

Beleg
03-04-2003, 04:14 PM
Beren and Luthien?...And the World Felt right...this stanza sort of gives me the feeling. But we'll see.;)

Beleg
03-09-2003, 08:27 AM
Erm Lhun can you please tell whether the answers are correct or Not? The thread has come to a standstill seeing that that last post before this was on 4th.

Lhunithiliel
03-10-2003, 10:16 AM
The riddle has to do with Aragorn and Arwen.
Hirila was close ! ;)
Only specify the event.

Anamatar IV
03-12-2003, 01:53 AM
When they stumbled upon eachother in Lorien?

Lhunithiliel
03-13-2003, 03:45 PM
Oh! Common!
THAT was what Hirilla said....But it is not THIS event!

Shall I "reveal" it?

Beleg
03-13-2003, 06:04 PM
You should

Lhunithiliel
03-14-2003, 06:21 AM
Ooooo well.... it is that either you have lost interest or ....I can't believe it was so difficult! You were so close...

It is when Aragorn and Arwen meet in Lothlorien and take the vows of love and spend their days of loving each other.
*******
Now then, here comes the new one ;) :

On an island we stood
watching the red rivers running by.
And then we flew in the air.
And the burning waters we left far below.

****
Well? That's easy :)

Beleg
03-14-2003, 06:48 AM
it is that either you have lost interest or . :eek: :eek: NO!!!! It was just plain difficult.

And this one is mighty difficult too!

Well my first and hopefully last answer is

Beren and Luthien just after their death. This is so difficult!!!:mad:

Lhunithiliel
03-14-2003, 05:40 PM
Hey, beleg, you seem to love the couple B&L! :)

No!

The event is from LOTR.

Finduilas
03-14-2003, 11:40 PM
Isn't this one when the ring is finally destroyed and Sam and Frodo fly on the eagle's back?

Lhunithiliel
03-14-2003, 11:55 PM
BRAVO!
Your turn :)

Lhunithiliel
03-18-2003, 06:39 AM
Hey, Findi, common!

Finduilas
03-19-2003, 09:33 PM
I'm sorry for being late but here's something I thought of. It's very easy and it's actually part of a Metallica song.


But I'll take my time anywhere
Free to speak my mind anywhere
And I'll redefine anywhere
Anywhere I may roam
Where I lay my head is home

Lhunithiliel
03-21-2003, 06:03 PM
EASY?!!:o :eek: :rolleyes: :confused:

I have NO idea what event you have in mind!

some help, please?

Finduilas
03-22-2003, 09:27 PM
OK, it's from the ROTK. I hope that helps.

Finduilas
03-25-2003, 09:34 PM
OK. Here's the answer:

It's when Sam and Frodo roam alone in the Emptiness on their way to Mordor. And the ground is actually their home.
I hope that's cleared out the idea I had in mind.:)

Lhunithiliel
03-26-2003, 01:50 PM
After I persuaded Findi to give the answer to her riddle (because it seemed nobody could answer it! ;) ), she gave me the right to post a new one.

***********
Two giants stood against each other -
a giant in strength and in spirit the other.

Two worlds they were there to fight in revenge for
one cursed and the other worth dying again for.

The battle was won with a glorious end.
But .... what was the world that was left in the end?
***********

a hint : NOT Fingolfin vs. Morgoth! ;)

Finduilas
03-26-2003, 02:44 PM
Is it Morgoth vs. Manwe?
I suppose the two worlds may be the Numenore and Aman.

Lhunithiliel
03-27-2003, 06:06 AM
One of the "giants" is right! ;) :D
But read carefully!
Two worlds they were there to fight in revenge for
one cursed and the other worth dying again for.
You wouldn't expect a Vala to actually DIE and what is more - twice, would you!

Finduilas
03-27-2003, 07:01 PM
I'd now like to inquire about a point which really confused me after your post.
You say that 'dying again for' is refering to the 'giant' but not the world itself. However, when I read the poem, I thought that it is one of the worlds that is 'worth dying again for'. In other words I thought that the 'giants' were fighting in revenge for two different worlds( to whom everyone of them belongs) one of which was cursed and the other worth dying for.
Anyway, I just wanted to clear this up.

Lhunithiliel
03-28-2003, 06:01 AM
Yes, Findi!
You have understood it quite right!
Two worlds - two giants defending them.... BUT! Don't be fooled by the word giant ;)
Besides I've said it in the poem itself.... about the giants....


AND WHERE ARE THE OTHERS?!!!!!!!!!

Beleg
03-28-2003, 01:27 PM
The only answer that comes to my mind is Morgoth vs Hùrin. Allthough that the most farthest guess their can be.

Lhunithiliel
03-28-2003, 05:47 PM
Well, you ALL (;) ) guess correctly about one of the giants - Morgoth.
As for the other one - no - not Hurin!

And think of the event!
If you guess the event, you'll figure out about the other giant.

Where is Gate now - this is one of the events that excites him most. ;)

Beleg
03-28-2003, 06:18 PM
Lhun please give us a smallll guess....Is the other gaint one of the second children of Eru?

Anamatar IV
03-28-2003, 09:28 PM
I really doubt this but is it Turin Vs. Morgoth in the 2nd prophecy of Mandos?

Lhunithiliel
03-28-2003, 09:44 PM
Anamatar! You always guess!

Your turn! :)

Anamatar IV
03-28-2003, 11:27 PM
Oh my really? I am really not learned in that prophecy but the thing that tipped me off was when you said dying again for.

1 person
Plus one possesion
Plus one gathering
Plus many relatives
Plus a dual occasion
equals mystery and doubt.

Lhunithiliel
03-29-2003, 07:38 AM
It's either Bilbo-dwarves meeting before the Great Quest
or Bilbo's birthday - the Ring - the new Quest.

Only I wonder about:
Plus a dual occasion

And see how good I am!? Giving "fat" hints ;) :D

Take my example! ;)

Anamatar IV
03-29-2003, 06:14 PM
You're right with Bilbo's party. The dual occassion was that is was Frodo's party as well.:)

Finduilas
04-02-2003, 08:32 PM
I suppose it's now Lhun's turn again, right?;)
Come on, we are waiting.

Gil-Galad
04-02-2003, 10:51 PM
Well,she is too tired and went to sleep so you will probably wait the whole night.:) :p :cool:

Lhunithiliel
04-03-2003, 06:43 AM
Hey, you two... talking me around behind my back! ;) :D

Here is a riddle for you all:

***************
Black fields.
Black hills.
And through them a river flows.

But ... Lo! The waters sing as they run
a song of glory of the ages.
And the fields and the hills are black no more!
***************

Finduilas
04-03-2003, 10:26 AM
I suppose it could be the Purifying if Isengard.
The black hills and fields is actually Isengard and the lands around while the river is the one the Ents let flow in order to 'wash' the tower.

Lhunithiliel
04-03-2003, 05:12 PM
Nope! :) :D

Anamatar IV
04-05-2003, 09:56 PM
Is it the Last Battle at the Morannon?

Beleg
04-06-2003, 04:26 AM
Tol-Sirion.

Lhunithiliel
04-11-2003, 06:37 PM
Hey, people, you are NOT reading carefully! ;)

The "river" sings! And what does it sing?:

The waters sing as they run
a song of glory of the ages.

Well, now you have it!
Right?
:p :D

Finduilas
04-11-2003, 09:59 PM
Could this possibly be the last alliance of the peoples when they nearly destroyed the One? The waters are the people and brightness at the end is the temporary destroyment of Sauron.

Lhunithiliel
04-12-2003, 07:40 AM
Noooooooo! :(

Whatzzup! I never thought it could be so.... "obscure" - this riddle of mine!

No way out of the caves for you! ;) :D

Read carefully:
black surroundings >> a singing>>> ????? Well????

Thorongil
04-12-2003, 08:16 AM
is it to do with fingon rescuing maedhros from thangorodrim?

Lhunithiliel
04-12-2003, 08:36 PM
Shall I give up or YOU?! ;) :D :p

Lhunithiliel
04-16-2003, 06:12 AM
Well, it seems high time to solve this riddle:

Black fields.
Black hills.
And through them a river flows.

But ... Lo! The waters sing as they run
a song of glory of the ages.
And the fields and the hills are black no more!

The Music of the Ainur!

......flowing like a river of sounds through the blaxckness of the Void and then in the Void there is a light and Arda appeares...


Now, whoever wishes, may come up with a new riddle :)

Finduilas
04-19-2003, 01:44 AM
LOL, Lhun, I would never think of that!!!
Anyway, here's something:


Death is all around,
yes, so tragic!
Sadness, anger and revenge...
and magic, all is magic!
But the wooden heart, so strong inded, feels sorrow,
and no doubt now that it'll have his land, air, life
that have been borrowed!

Lhunithiliel
04-22-2003, 06:24 AM
LOL, Findi! Blame my "twisted" imagination! :D

Now, as for the new riddle ... I'm not sure but it might well be Treebeard... only what event? :eek: :confused:

Finduilas
04-22-2003, 09:19 AM
:D I will!!!;) :p

Anyway,yes you are right about Treebeard and how about the event...?:)

Lhunithiliel
04-22-2003, 05:43 PM
Hum...Hum...

Could it be the council of the ents? :confused:

Finduilas
04-22-2003, 10:07 PM
You're close.......:)
but still!

Lhunithiliel
04-22-2003, 10:59 PM
I got it!
I goti!
I GOT IT!!!!!

It's when the Orcs cut trees... the living trees!

Finduilas
04-22-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
I got it!
I goti!
I GOT IT!!!!!

It's when the Orcs cut trees... the living trees!

CORRECT!!!
I knew you are a talented girl and you'll get it immediately!!!:)
Anyway, your turn now!;)

Lhunithiliel
04-22-2003, 11:34 PM
URA! :D
Now:

*************
Over dales and planes
Over rivers and mountains
They flew

Over pearl cities and misty woods
Over grief and joy
They flew

But death was in their claws
And sorrow under their wings!

Two they bore
From of death the shore
To of life the door
Two they bore.
****************

Finduilas
04-23-2003, 11:19 PM
Over dales and planes
Over rivers and mountains
They flew

These are Beren, Luthien who fly, carried by Torondor and his eagles.

Over pearl cities and misty woods
Over grief and joy
They flew

This is the moment when they pass over Gondolin, where Turgon dwelt and she starts to cry.

But death was in their claws
And sorrow under their wings!


But she cried because she thought Beren was death.

Two they bore
From of death the shore
To of life the door
Two they bore.


They actually ran from the death of Carharoth,who bit the Silmaril from Beren's hand and thus died.

Is that correct?

Lhunithiliel
04-24-2003, 07:13 AM
PERRRRRRFECT!!!!!! :D

Your turn!

Finduilas
04-24-2003, 10:19 PM
All it started ....

In wilderness they all fighted.
No trees and animals there were to scream...
The end was near- clearly it seemed.
All were mighty and one was mightiest of all,
the Dark one, the Evil and the Tall!

But a Savior then came,
the Strong was he of fame.
His laughter, anger and power
drove the Evil away to His tower.
Vigour he revealed and vigour he meant...

All started to end...

-------
That's for you, Lhun!:D
But anyway, others can participate too.;) Since nobody seems to do so..:(

Lhunithiliel
04-24-2003, 10:43 PM
Morgoth and Tulaks - fight

I got it again! ;):p :p :p

Finduilas
04-24-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Morgoth and Tulaks - fight

I got it again! ;):p :p :p

:( AU! And I've just tought it!:(
Well, you're the best Lhun!!!
But....now it's your turn .....again!!!!!!!!!!!!:p:D:D
Go beat us!!!!!:D

Lhunithiliel
05-07-2003, 07:44 AM
I love this game! :D

I.........wonder why the others don't .....:rolleyes:

Anyway, here's one for you Findi...or maybe for somebody else out there :p It's easy:

******
Two sat
One jumped
One came up
Two sat
One hit
One dead lay
One escaped away.
*******

Well? :p

Bethelarien
05-08-2003, 02:28 PM
Turin's rescue by and slaying of Beleg Cuthalion?

Lhunithiliel
05-10-2003, 02:02 PM
Nope! ;) :D

Beleg
05-11-2003, 07:35 AM
Sam and Frodo at Morgul vale?

Lhunithiliel
05-11-2003, 08:04 AM
Na! :p :D

Beleg
05-13-2003, 07:12 PM
Any Hint Lhun!!! Atleast tell to which book does it belong???? :( pweahse?

Lhunithiliel
05-13-2003, 09:17 PM
what book?... hu...

Now...a hint:

The one that jumped and came up FOUND sth !

;) ;) ;)

Lhunithiliel
05-15-2003, 06:43 AM
Whatzzup, folks? ;) :p :D

Noone?:eek: :eek:

Beleg
05-15-2003, 09:37 AM
This is sooo difficult :( Can't even think of anything. Anyother Hint?

Lhunithiliel
05-15-2003, 08:44 PM
Hahahaha!:D :D :D

OK!...
The two that sat were in a boat.

Well?

Anamatar IV
05-15-2003, 09:17 PM
There we go....

Deagol finding the ring, Smeagol throttling him.

Lhunithiliel
05-15-2003, 09:26 PM
Hehe!
Finally!!!

But with this HUGE hint...who couldn't have guessed?! :p :p :D

YOUR TURN!!!!

Finduilas
05-23-2003, 08:27 PM
Let's liven up this thread!
I wish to post a riddle if Anamatar doesn't mind...
Anyway,it's very easy and I'm sure Lhun will get it in no time!;)

* * *
Eye to eye and mind to mind,
only sorrow passes by,only sorrow is to find...

Still she stood,still she was...
still,no mood;and was spelled thus...

Eye to eye,mind to mind...
eye to eye,but now mind IN mind!

Her memory was gone...
her memory he won...

Her memory was gone,
thus her doom he won!

Beleg
05-23-2003, 09:11 PM
Niniel

Finduilas
05-23-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Beleg_strongbow
Niniel

:) Right. And the occasion?:)

Beleg
05-23-2003, 09:27 PM
Lol, I really have no idea about the occasion.

But just a guess,

When she climed off Cabed-en-aras?

Finduilas
05-23-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Beleg_strongbow
Lol, I really have no idea about the occasion.

But just a guess,

When she climed off Cabed-en-aras?

Nope,raed more carefully:

Still she stood,still she was...
still,no mood;and was spelled thus...

Now?:)

Lhunithiliel
05-24-2003, 06:21 AM
meeting Glaurung's eyes?

Finduilas
05-24-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
meeting Glaurung's eyes?

Correct!:)

Your turn...!:D

Lhunithiliel
05-24-2003, 09:07 PM
Aaaaa! NO!
This is becoming a "private" thread - mine and Findi's ;) :D

Why!?!
The game is such a fun and yet it still brings some education!

But if it's my turn, then I'll come up with sth.

Hirila
05-25-2003, 11:52 PM
Well, in fact you have been too fast answering your riddles.
So, if you don't like this becoming too private I take the opportunity and ask you for that one:


As always is, there is a question,
Two anwers waiting for a choice.

"Live you do, when here you stay.
Love you do, when home you go."

Love she chose, forsaking life,
Winning sung immortality.

Lhunithiliel
05-26-2003, 12:07 AM
Luthien?

Hirila
05-26-2003, 12:14 AM
You're right. But as you have said on a much earlier occasion:
what event?

Lhunithiliel
05-26-2003, 12:16 AM
Could it be the "judgement" Mandos gave to her?

Hirila
05-26-2003, 07:52 AM
I wouldn't call it a "Judgment". But I'm sure you mean the very event.

Lhun, you definitely are too good. No wonder no other players come here! :D Your turn.

Lhunithiliel
05-26-2003, 09:27 AM
Hehe! :D

OK... I'll have to think of sth. good.

I only wonder why people show a little interest to this game! :eek:

I'll come up with sth. later today.
******
Here it comes:

Long time ago
I fell from the dark.
No Master I had
But my Masters's blood
I drank with delight.

I shone with dark shine
I spoke in dark rhymes
And everlasting freedom I brought
To him - who desperate death sought.
******


I think this one is easy. :)

Beleg
05-26-2003, 05:00 PM
That's Gurthang, Turin's sword.

Lhunithiliel
05-26-2003, 10:05 PM
:D I told you - it was easy! :D

Your turn! :cool:

Beleg
05-27-2003, 11:03 AM
The captain was a man of great vigor,
and power he wore unmatched.
Our person wasn't the captain of the group
that walked quickly northwards.

He was the eldest,
one of wisest and fairest,
the last was he of them,
that talked to the captain.

Aragon s/o Arathon, thou bearest resembelence to thy ancestor, of whom we arth guessing.

Lhunithiliel
05-27-2003, 05:26 PM
Wait a minute!!!!
This is NOT the "Who or what am I"-thread of the GoOiE! :p :D

We need an event here!!!

But...I'll think about your riddle! ;)

.....Mmmmm...... is it Elendur - Isildur's son?
The event could be when he asked his father to go away with the cursed ring and try escape the Orcs' ambush at the Gladden fields.

Beleg
05-27-2003, 06:17 PM
You know what Lhun! I thought the exact words before I posted my riddle. You are offcourse correct. I originally wanted to make it the disaster of Gladden Fields but...oh well..

Your turn...:) *Gets ready for a long, hard riddle that''ll the peal the skin of my brain*

Lhunithiliel
05-28-2003, 05:52 AM
Hehe! :D

I will really think of sth. "brain-skin-pilling" :) :D

Lhunithiliel
05-28-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Hehe! :D

I will really think of sth. "brain-skin-pilling" :) :D
How about this one:

******
There was a time
a time of war and woe,
the earth burnt in flame
and hard it was
to tell a friend from a foe.

But from the North and South
in that old forest we met.
and the stairs of time
to immortality us led.

A new kingdom was thus born
a new realm of true friends
that in peace and in war
there stand till this world ends.
*******

Finduilas
05-28-2003, 10:03 PM
I know this is not correct,but we have to start from somewhere,don't we?:)
Melian and Thingol?

Lhunithiliel
05-28-2003, 10:25 PM
Nope! :)

Beleg
05-29-2003, 07:32 AM
Meeting of Beren and Luthien? Beren coming from Taur-nu-Fuin upnorth and Menegroth being south of Forest of Neldoreth.

Although the rest of the riddle is puzzling...

Lhunithiliel
05-29-2003, 07:43 AM
No. :(
Don't be fooled by the line about the old forest! It is NOT the most indicative one! ;)

Finduilas
05-29-2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
No. :(
Don't be fooled by the line about the old forest! It is NOT the most indicative one! ;)

Then are the key words 'war','immortality','kingdom' and 'friends'?

Lhunithiliel
05-29-2003, 10:04 PM
I thought .....this time - NO clues... but...OK... :D

key words: "war", "stairs", immortality", new kingdom" friendship

Finduilas
05-29-2003, 10:26 PM
Thank you,Lhun!;) :p
And sorry for ruining your initial plans...;) :D

Now to serious work.could this possibly be Earendil and Elwing during the War of Wrath?Earendil after asking for the Valar's help,towered above Aman and there he was immortal .And Elwing went to Aman as well,in order to be with her dearest love.

Lhunithiliel
05-29-2003, 10:31 PM
Sorry! No! :p
Wrong time period... The event is much later

Finduilas
05-29-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Lhunithiliel
Sorry! No! :p
Wrong time period... The event is much later

Hey,is it possible to be during the Third Age and The Final Battle of the Ring?

Lhunithiliel
05-29-2003, 10:40 PM
A bit earlier ;) :D

Finduilas
05-29-2003, 10:49 PM
GALADRIEL! GALADRIEL! GALADRIEL AND KELEBORN!
AND LORIEN!
Are they?:)

Lhunithiliel
05-30-2003, 07:13 AM
NO! NO! NO! :p :D :D
A bit later...:p

Theoden
05-30-2003, 07:19 AM
I just happened upon this thread and have never tried a game like this but here it goes:

Gollum and Frodo on the Stairs of Cirith Ungol leading to Shelob's lair?

-me

Theoden
05-30-2003, 07:24 AM
or perhaps Frodo and Sam walking up Mt. Doom...?

-me

Lhunithiliel
05-30-2003, 07:28 AM
Hi, King of the Golden Hall! :D
It's good to have a new mind involved in the game!

But you're still not correct.
The event I have in mind is earlier than the events you described.

Look at one of my earlier posts where I have pointed out to several key-words. ;) :)

Theoden
05-30-2003, 07:47 AM
Goodness... hmm.... after Galadriel... before Shelob...hmm....

Stairs. War. New Kingdom. Imortality. Friendship.

hmm...

perhaps Merry and Pippin right before they meat Treebeard. Stairs. The war is that of Isengard. New Kingdom: Gondor...? Imortality of the Ents, and the new friendship between Treebeard and the hobbits.

I know that is a stretch and not the right answer... but this is turning into a guessing game. :)

-me

Lhunithiliel
05-30-2003, 08:00 AM
Nope...

The event is much earlier than the War of the Ring.

Theoden
05-30-2003, 08:17 AM
ok... I just read the other posts back a ways.
I am getting then that this answer is to be found in the Sil, and although I have read it twice (which may be laughable to some), I do not know it that well and I do not have a copy of my own. So...
Clueless.

-me

Beleg
05-30-2003, 11:00 AM
"war", "stairs", immortality", new kingdom" friendship

Stairs=Dimril Stair...
Immortality=?
New Kingdom=Erebor
Friendship=Men of Dale and Dwarves?


But this seems to have to do nothing with the actual riddle...

No idea at the moment...

Lhunithiliel
05-30-2003, 12:46 PM
Keep trying :p :D

It's about mortals...but not Dwarves ;)

Celebthôl
05-30-2003, 12:53 PM
Where Eol the young came and saved Gondor?

Lhunithiliel
05-30-2003, 05:09 PM
The event from the riddle is right after this.

Well???

Finduilas
05-30-2003, 07:29 PM
I was thinking of Aldarion and Erendis.....?:confused:

Anamatar IV
05-30-2003, 11:01 PM
Bleh. That's an evil riddle, Lhun.;)

It's Cirion and Eorl climbing the stairs to Elendil's grave, creating a friendship that will last eternity, and Cirion giving Eorl Caledhron (sp?), or, Rohan.

It's from UT.

Lhunithiliel
05-31-2003, 06:53 AM
"evil" ???!!!
Common! Otherwise the fun is spoiled1 :p

But FINALLY! You have guessed it, Anamatar.

So, how about another "evil" ? :p :D

Anamatar IV
05-31-2003, 04:59 PM
And two did lie upon their backs
Gazing skyward into the stars
One spoke, saying surely it is
The other, his brother consented
And thought it best for all that it was

Lhunithiliel
06-01-2003, 07:33 AM
WOW! Any hint? Just a little one...:rolleyes:

Anamatar IV
06-01-2003, 04:00 PM
Another few lines:

The thing that they saw
Was that that they sought

Lhunithiliel
06-02-2003, 04:29 PM
Hehe!
Sure!
If these "two" had taken the "pain" to lie on their backs and discuss what they were watching.... they must have certainly looked for it...

And..... what about hinting the time...the Age at least... A? Pweeeze? (this one's for "please" ;) :D)

Anamatar IV
06-02-2003, 11:06 PM
1st age, the two are brothers.

Is that enough?;)

Lhunithiliel
06-02-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Anamatar IV

Is that enough?;)
Na! :confused:

Brothers.... Mmmm.... Of brothers we know the Feanorens, and then.... the sons of Fingolfin....

Why don't you hint on the event itself? ;)

Anamatar IV
06-02-2003, 11:37 PM
err no not really without giving it away...but I'll try.

It was at night time and that was why they could see it.

Bethelarien
06-04-2003, 09:10 PM
I'm almost hoping I'm wrong....

Two of the sons of Feanor looking at the star of Earendil? My reasoning is thus: They sought the Silmarils, and legend has it that the Star of Earendil was indeed one of the Silmarils, set in the heavens by Varda herself.

Anamatar IV
06-04-2003, 09:41 PM
Exactly! Your turn, Beth.

Bethelarien
06-04-2003, 09:51 PM
Awww, ****.

What do I do? I've never done this before. *note to self: NEVER, EVER guess something in here again!*

Anamatar IV
06-04-2003, 09:55 PM
You just make a riddle about an event in Middle-earth. It doesn't need to rhyme or anything.;)

Bethelarien
06-04-2003, 09:57 PM
Thanks for being so....helpful. :p Do I have a limited amount of time?

Beleg
06-05-2003, 07:45 AM
Well, you can post whenever you want. :) But it would be better if you post in the near future!

Bethelarien
06-05-2003, 09:39 PM
Working on it, working on it! What with the debates and all, I'm really broadening my horizons!

Lhunithiliel
06-08-2003, 07:56 AM
Beth, I am sorry to have taken your turn, but it just came into my mind so I decided to post it :)

*****

Birds are flying in troubled skies
flying to search the land
where the soul never dies
where the troubles and woes find their end.

Birds are flying;
But strange are they -
nor wings, no feathers,
yet through the heavy air
they fly to where all Men's hope gathers.

******

Beleg
06-08-2003, 11:38 AM
Earendil's voyage to seek the Blessed realm?