All of the makers of Silmarils and the annulment of Fëanor's oath

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  1. Elaini

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    Fëanor claimed the Silmarils for himself only very loud and clear, but come think about it, was it true at all that the credit for creating them belonged to him solely?

    It was Yavanna and Nienna who at first brought Telperion and Laurelin into existence, the very same trees which provided Fëanor the materials to make them from, the pools of light. And after he had created them they were brought to Varda to be blessed so no hands with evil intent could touch them without burning - a powerful enchantment which wouldn't spare even Morgoth's hands.

    So that would make four people which affected the birth of Silmarillion.

    The Silmarils eventually burned the hands of Maedhros and Maglor, and that's how they knew that the oath Fëanor made them take had become void. Varda wouldn't have the say though such power only because she was a Valie, but also because she had a part in their making.

    In other words, as one of the makers she had the authority to annul the oath and Fëanor's words alone weren't enough to make the oath last.
     
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    Fëanor alone created the Silmarils, no other Being in Arda has that claim. The Light of the Silmarils did though come from the trees, and the oath was made void when the Valar deemed it necessary to vanquish Melkor from the World. Why though, after years of torment and thralldom of the Noldoli did the Valar consent to this? If the Silmarils were not a part of this would they still have come? Did they only allow Eärendel into Valinor because he held a Silmaril? I have no right to question such things of the Valar, but be they true what then?
     

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    When Fëanor and his sons took their dreadful oath, they named Eru as witness. I think Eru set aside the Oath of Fëanor, and that when Maglor begged Maedhros to abandon the oath and leave the jewels, his was the correct advice.

    Maglor was the only one of the Sons of Fëanor to survive the war, though he appears to have lost his mind. He also taught Elrond to harp and sing: he raised Elros and Elrond after slaughtering their kindred. That must have been a very strange relationship: “Maglor took pity upon Elros and Elrond, and he cherished them, and love grew after between them, as little might be thought; but Maglor's heart was sick and weary with the burden of the dreadful oath.”

    The Light in the Silmarilli was alive. The Two Trees were indeed made Yavanna and Nienna, and Varda did hallow them: “mortal flesh” could not endure them, either; but Eärendil and Elwing, both Peredhil, handled them. [Edit (added rather later): Beren handled a Silmaril, too, without harm, though Carcharoth later bit off his hand. Carcharoth didn’t get along very well with the Silmaril.]
    Though he used the works of others, too, it sure sounds as if Fëanor alone made them. Certainly he believed that, though the Vala Tulkas did not, and agreed with you, Elaini. Aulë disagreed.
     
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    While Tulkas is right Aulë is wise.


    Sometimes i wonder if those jewels might have meant more to him than just being his greatest work.
     

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    Another good question is whether or not Fëanor foresaw the death of the Trees, Yavanna may have guessed that. I see how after the death of the Trees the Valar would announce some claim over the Silmarils, but was it just that they did so only when it suited their needs? Could a smith in Arda make a thing without this Vala or that Vala claiming some right of possession over it? If they cannot then there is some truth in Melkor's words to the Noldoli. The heart of Fëanor was in those jewels, and as he said to break them would slay him.