Anyone picked up the new shadow of war game? MASSIVE SPOILERS

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  1. Might_of_arnor

    Might_of_arnor New Member

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    its the sequel to shadow of mordor (which was a huge surprise in the way I performed, I'd highly reconmmend playing that game first to get the idea of the lore and story), for those that don't know this franchise.

    You're playing as a gondorian captain of the black gates whose family gets murdered and sacrificed by sauron's high ranking lieutenants (no these guys weren't the nazgul, rather made up characters), your character Talion, gets brought back to life by none other than celebrimbor himself, maker of rings.

    Basically for the whole of shadow of mordor (first game) they go around, dominating orcs (you can make your own armies in Both games and this is highly expanded in the sequel) from lowly grunts to high ranking orcs of sauron, each and everyone of them having their own personalities, weakness and strengths.

    At the end of the game you kill 2 of sauron's lieutenants and face the third (the black hand, who is presumably the deception of sauron and the most powerful of the lieutenants, possibly an incarnation of sauron himself, as sauron does take over the black hand briefly), you overcome this tho as celebrimbor a spirit, embodies Talion who was sacrificed but remains in this world because of celebrimbor. They cleanse mordor a bit of its evil and celebrimbor who revealed earlier he could of released Talion anytime and wasn't a curse as Talion thought, rather celebrimbor chose his body.

    Both decide it would be better if they remained in mordor, in order to stop sauron and perhaps even defeat him permanently, they go about this by saying the last line of the first game "it is time for a new ring"

    Almost immediately after the events of the first game, we see Talion and celebrimbor in spirit and body, forging the 'new ring' or 'second ring', which celebrimbor deems to be pure, he bounds his life force to this ring, same as sauron did with his.

    Now this is where things sorta get off topic or off lore but it's very interesting and it does play out very well. Right after making the second ring, celebrimbor gets captured by shelob, who is able to turn into a seductive human woman and is able to fight off nazgul (interesting right). She is able to grant visions that come true to Talion and the three form an uneasy relationship.

    Talion goes to minas ithil (last city of men in mordor) which is under siege by orcs and does eventually get taken over made into minas morgul, as sauron rewards the witch King with the city.

    Flash forward and we see shelob fighting nazgul, Talion fights them off and a warrior of galadriel comes forth (a she-elf called the eathriel, who holds the light of galadriel), she wards off the nazgul and then shelob gives back Talion the second ring. Talion and celebrimbors powers are greatly increased and now they are allowed to begin dominating their own orcs and make an army.

    Now there's a system called the 'Nemesis' system (which is what made the game very very popular), it's basically a hierarchy of orcs who fight their way to the top of the ladder, ranks go from mere grunts, to specialised orcs, to captains, warchiefs and finally overlords (overlords hold control over regions and there are 5 regions in the sequel, 2-3x the size of the first game).

    This system works well, as every Orc is their own Orc, as mentioned before.

    Now we start building our armies and do missions here and there, Gollum is prevalent in the game, one of the few characters to return to the sequel and what I find most fascinating are the nazgul (SPOILER, 3 of the nazgul are revealed to be Saladun, presumably a man of the east judging by appearance who sauron surrender to and gave his ring as a peace offering, sauron had his fair form, we see Saladuns armies increase massively yet it's all for nothing as sauron turns from prisoner to advisor, see the reference to numenor here)

    The second nazgul is helm hammerhand, that's right theodens ancestor (helm is a man of strength and sauron gives him this ring after helms nemesis kills helm for not allowing to grant his daughters hand in marriage to his nemisis, we see sauron and celebrimbor, who was deceived at this time give the ring to helm and helm basically runs into a berserker, he finds his nemisis and his daughter, he tries to kill his nemesis but his daughter gets in the way, he then basically murders everyone in the room, including his own men and we see at the end his appearance changing)

    The third nazgul who I've now just encountered so I don't know much about his ending is Isildur. YES aragorns ancestor and the man who cut the ring off sauron's hand, who presumably is a nazgul now (I told you the lore gets interesting here), basically he can raise the dead wrights who come from minas ithil, men who feel defending the city, he raises even their general who sacrificed the city to ensure his daughters safety (definitely get this game to understand it).

    So yeah, this took forever to type but it does give you an insight of the story, sorry if I spoiled anything but you were warned, I highly recommend both games, very very good gameplay and you learn a lot about middle earth.

    Thank you, peoples
     
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    Azrubêl Drúadan

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    I think that the Shadow of Mordor is one of the most thoroughly abhorrent Tolkien adaptions ever made. I've played over a dozen different video game adaptions of Tolkien, and there is none that bastardizes it more thoroughly than Shadow of Mordor. I mean it appears to be decent as a video game, but it doesn't just play loose with Middle-earth, it is painfully convoluted and empty in terms of Tolkien content.
     

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    In regards to this, you got to understand that these games aren't canon, they're just games. They can be interpreted as scenarios or 'what was happening in mordor: behind the scenes' sort of thing. I believe both games are very well deserving of praise, they add what Tolkien himself would have wanted, more story which is why he left some answers to middle earth out on purpose, for the audience to figure it out and make their own stories in middle earth, these games are just one of those stories.
     

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