Arwen dying???

Discussion in '"The Return of the King"' started by Niniel, Oct 31, 2003.

  1. Niniel

    Niniel Random Quoter

    In the official ROTK photo guide that is available here, I read something very strange: Arwen is ill and dying, and that's why she sends Elrond to bring Andúril to Aragorn! It sounded like a really weird plot change, and I really wonder why PJ put that in. It would explain the famous unexplained picture of Arwen lying on that bed as if sleeping.
     
  2. Celebthôl

    Celebthôl Loremaster

    So explain to me how in the name of Eru (;)) does an Elf get ill?
     
  3. Weathergirl2006

    Weathergirl2006 Alkdilwen the Elf

    I dont think she could die first of all because she and aragon are going to get married and why would peter play her role up so much if she was just going to die?
    I have this book and it shows Galadriel and Arwen together and we know she(G) would not go to rivendell be cuase that would be messed up(even more so). The only thing i can think of is that elrond leaves and she has some important thing she has to do so she goes and get Galdriel to help......:confused:
     
  4. Niniel

    Niniel Random Quoter

    I have no idea how Arwen can be dying, unless it's some sort of metaphor for going to the West. But I fear it's another one of PJ's strange ideas.
     
  5. Thorin

    Thorin LOTR Purist to the end

    Strange. I'd never even heard of this possibly being a rumor. I would think that it would have been mentioned in some form or another. I was under the impression that the scene of Arwen lying in a bed was an end of the movie scene from the book's appendicis to show what happens to Aragorn and Arwen at the end of their lives. There are photos of a much older Aragorn lying dead and Arwen beside him. The 'bed of roses' scene with Arwen is when she returns to Lorien to die. At least that's what I thought they were.
     
  6. Elka

    Elka hope seeker

    ok What???? Are you kidding me...? PlZ tell me that you are kidding me....That is totally ridiculous and absurd...PJ what the F#@$ are you thinking? Well if it is true, which I think not, I will hunt him down. *runs out crying*.................*comes in*

    Ok you know how stupid that sounds, to develop their love so deeply, too just make her sick and die. Shes a freacking Elf...That will be a disgrace.....:mad: :mad:
     
  7. Gandalf White

    Gandalf White Gone Missing

    My, my. Calm down! ;) I was waiting for you to find this thread, it was inevitable...

    Is there any way for me to get a look at this photo guide? Over the internet perhaps? And is it released by New Line, or just some independent speculator?

    Rather disturbing, I must admit...
     
  8. Elka

    Elka hope seeker

    Im sorry, but I can't help it...It just kills me Gandalf....:(
     
  9. Gandalf White

    Gandalf White Gone Missing

    No need to apologize. But there is also no need to get all worked up over something not necessarily true. ;)

    I must say, if that is what's going to happen I'm glad that I won't be seeing it in the same theatre! :D ;)
     
  10. Gil-Galad

    Gil-Galad in love

    Celebthôl ,yes elves can get ill.It's nod exactly illness.With the time and throughout the years the burden of the immortal life becomes so heavy that some elves desire to go to The Hall of Mandos.


    These quotes from The Silmarillion can exampkify how an "ill" elf feels like.But I suppose PJ did not do such a terrible mistake to change Arwen's acts so drastically.:mad: :mad:
     
  11. Celebthôl

    Celebthôl Loremaster

    Well, thats more of a wearyness, and Arwen isnt even that old as far as Elves go, maybe shes heart broken because she has to choose between Aragorn and Elrond?
     
  12. Gandalf White

    Gandalf White Gone Missing

    Another, simpler way of explaining it is this: elves can die of two things, 1) wounds in a battle, or 2) grief.

    Which would of course mean Arwen is fading because of grief, at least in PJ's version.
     
  13. Gil-Galad

    Gil-Galad in love

    If PJ has decided (highly probable I think) to add such stupid things I will be totally disappointed with him.:mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  14. Celebthôl

    Celebthôl Loremaster

    I already am dissapointed with him, so it makes no difference to me anymore. . .
     
  15. Gandalf White

    Gandalf White Gone Missing

    Well that makes three of us. I am disappointed in PJ, but love the movies.

    Still, please no Arwen dying nonsense in RotK. PLEASE!
     
  16. Elka

    Elka hope seeker

    Its true. I must calm down Gandalf, but its very hard when you have all these deviations here and there......But we'll see. Why though can't PJ just follow the BOOK version?:mad:
     
  17. Gandalf White

    Gandalf White Gone Missing

    If you want the answer to that, check out "Tolkien's LotR vs. PJ's LotR" sub-forum. Chock-full of ideas why, but I must warn you, it gets dull pretty quickly. If you're not careful it'll get you thinking you hate the movies! :eek:
     
  18. Gil-Galad

    Gil-Galad in love

    Ok,it is impossible to follow the book,but to make so many changes and to ADD things which are not part of the book!!!!That I cannot accept!!:mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  19. Elka

    Elka hope seeker

    Exactly my point:D
     
  20. Starflower

    Starflower Almost here

    unless the photos we have seen are a glimpse of what happened after everything else, meaning when Aragorn actually dies and Arwen goes out to Lorien to lay herself down to die.
    That is perfectly acceptable, but I don't think even PJ would go as far as to kill her off before the movie is over, that is too much of a deviation of the book to justify.
     

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