Do all Elves Revere the Valar?

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  1. Inziladun

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    I apologize, I didn't intend to ruin the topic of discussion. I have to agree with Miguel that Varda was loved by both the dark elves and those that saw the light, the Star Kindler, her signs gave hope to the hopeless. I believe the Valar cared deeply for the race of Men especially, but did it in ways that would not reveal themselves.
     
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    CirdanLinweilin The Wandering Wastrel

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    Oh no, it was a good side discussion.


    Great point about Varda though.

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    Night was not being enjoyed as intended, only in Aman. Because of the dark lord the night became "a time of peril unseen, of fear without form, an uneasy vigil; or a haunted dream".

    This was the night in Aman:


    And this in the rest of Arda:


     
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    I agree, certainly Varda was revered by both the Avari and the Elves from Aman, especially considering how she lighted the stars for them. What do you think about the Exiled Noldor, though? These are elves that have lived with the "gods" and still rejected them. What kind of relationship would you think there is? I mean, for one side I don't think they can deny their power (they have lived in Aman and seen it, after all), but despite acknowledging it, they still choose to defy them, in some kind of tragic hubris.

    I know this is going more into each one's speculation , but I would still like to hear your opinions.
     

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    It's a hard thing to imagine. Essentially, i think the Valar would be for the Noldor what parents or the rest of adults are for a kids when little; This gigantic figures who seem to maintain a certain order of things.
     
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    My thoughts exactly!
     
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