Discussion in 'Other Related Topics' started by Old Man Willow, Jan 12, 2002.
how could Stairway to Heaven possibly be LOTR realated?
Of all the songs on Led Zep's 4th album, I cared less for Stairway than most other songs on that album. I bought it the day it was released and so hadn't heard any of the songs except Black Dog which was the released single.
As for their Tolkien references, well I didn't know them as such, for I didn't read Lord of the Rings until 1975.
I've read that while on tour Page and Plant would sit around and make up songs to Tolkiens work.
And I don't know if this is true but I heard that at one time Plant had bought a house on the same street Tolkien lived on when he wrote LOTR.
I just wonder what The Beatles version of the movie that was offered them would have been like?
John as Gollum, scary thought.
Misty Mountain Hop and Ramble On definately has Lord of The Rings. I don't know about Kashmir though...that could be like a strange peyote trip in the desert or something.
You can just sit there and write songs all the time from Tolkien.
Not to mention all the songs that are already in the stories.
hey I might be 3 years late to respond to this thread but what the heck. I think its obvious that "Stairway to Heaven" has Tolkien references from LOTR and the Silmarillian. Although I feel as a whole its not necessarily a direct event or anything in ME, but more a separate idea with an included Tolkien tribute per say. Here are a few lines from the song.
"There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold"
"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be the blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king." -LOTR
"There's a feeling I get when I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving."
The west- In ME all that is good is in the West. The Vala are there, and its where the elves sail to when they leave ME. And my spirit is crying for leaving- the great journey of the Noldor from Valinor back to ME??? Could Galdriel be the the voice in this song?
"In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
And the voices of those who stand looking"
Simply the burning of Fangorn Forest in Isengard? OR, has Galadriel been staring in her mirror, seeing the future of Fangorn, as Saruman("voices", voice of saruman) once again stands looking. I say once again because as the leader of the White Counsel he advised to wait and not attack Dul Guldor(correct me if I'm wrong.) I'm guessing that if this is a song about Galadriel, it took place at a time when she did not yet know of Saruman's treachery. Maybe as she sees this "smoke through the trees," shes guesses its Sauron.
"And the forests will echo with laughter."
The Ents, after the War of the Ring?
Well I might have had too much fun here, but i don't think theres any denying that there are some Tolkien references in Stairway to Heaven.
Bwahaha! I've finally heard that song! Finally finally.
Sappy, sure, maybe. But no more so than anything else.
Lack of understanding? No way!
Tacky and stupid? I rather like it...
That's a common turn of phrase in the English language.
I don't think so. As before, "The West" is too vague for a band that's not afraid to use overt references when they want to. By all accounts *I* live in 'The West', but that doesn't mean I live in Middle Earth
Again, no. The giveaway is 'Rings' of smoke. I always took that lyric to refer to somebody smoking a pipe or hookah, maybe one of Zep's drug references.
Did the ents really laugh? Besides, if referring to anything 'forests' would refer to the huorns, who certainly didn't laugh.
Nice idea, but I'd be the first to deny it. Led Zeppelin's songs are varied, and only a few refer to Tolkien. Even these songs that do refer to his writing in oblique ways that are often metaphors for something else (cf: drugs or sex )
Now if it were a Blind Guardian song....
Though Battle of Evermore could be about any medieval battle, and was to me about any medieval battle. Then I read Lord of the Rings. From that time in late 1975, it reminded me of the Pelennor Fields.
Here is Heart doing a great cover of Battle of Evermore
I've always heard that the old man (The Hermit) standing looking out over the town on the fold out for Zoso, was supposed to be Gandalf keeping an eye on Frodo.
Ramble on is my fave with lotr reference
I noticed these a while ago too. So far, I've spotted; Ramble On, the Battle of Evermore, and Misty Mountain Hop. I'm not so sure on the last one.
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